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 Politics › Re: NL Political Personalities Of The Year! Nominations Ended. by Beaf: 3:23am On Nov 30, 2009 |
olafolarin:Funny guy. To prove your point, please tell me; whats my "tribe"? |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 3:16am On Nov 30, 2009 |
mikeansy:The law of the jungle reigns in Nigeria, over here you rise to the top based on brawn, not brains. If oil is Jonathans brawn, it is some brawn indeed! Until we rewrite our constituition, we will continue to be held back, because we must factor out our "leaders" brains and factor in their brawn. Until we rewrite our constituition, we will continue to wallow in the political and human quagmire of the unitary system IBB first introduced; as military "president" with civilian governors (or administrators). Fixing the constituition should be our ultimate target. If accountabilty was properly and unambiguously enshrined in the constituition, we wouldn't even be having this argument about Jonathan Goodluck. . . Because he wouldn't have been our VP (and neither would Yar Adua have been president). |
| Politics › Re: Open Letter To Mrs Turai Yar’adua by Beaf(op): 10:16am On Nov 29, 2009 |
Will she hear the wise and kind words and give the necessary advice to our dear president? |
| Politics › Open Letter To Mrs Turai Yar’adua by Beaf(op): 10:07am On Nov 29, 2009 |
Open letter to Mrs Turai Yar’Adua Frankly Speaking Nov 29, 2009 By Daele Sobowale BREAKING News Commentary: Justas I was about to send this Sunday’s column to the Sunday Editor, news reached us that our dear President Yar’Adua had once again been admitted into a hospital in Saudi. He was on admission in January this year, which occasioned the column below – written in January 2009. He was again there, at least once, may be more times, before this latest admission. And only God knows how often we shall be put through the agonies of anxiety created whenever the president becomes incapacitated this way. As the Chinese have reminded us, “A living dog is better than a dead lion.” (Vanguard Book of Quotations p.42). To which I will add that, “even, a living cat is better than a serially ill lion- if the lion is the president of a country which needs all hands on deck at all times to progress. What is the use of the captain of a ship who is always in sick bay? Please bear with me and read again what was written in January. I think it is just as relevant today as in the first month of the year. 0805-804-7455: “Sir, Obama has submitted his economic blue print to the Congress even before taking over. But here for almost two years, our go-slow leader is still booting. Oh Mr President, when will you wake up and run like your mates?…—Oghene I.E. TO what I can only call the lamentations of Oghene, Steve Ayorinde in The Punch of January 8, 2009 added: “And in looking forward to a better year, part of what government and the political vigilantes around could be guided by are the salient issues that were either half done, left totally unattended and abandoned last year.” That was on the back page if you feel like reading the rest of that well-crafted piece. By the way, Madam, you will notice I did not address you as “Your Excellency” the way sycophants, office seekers and plain bush people around you do. The reason is simple. Nowhere else, except in banana republics such as our own are presidents, prime ministers, governors and premiers and their wives addressed that way. The letter headed stationery at the White House, U.S or 10 Downing Street, London, don’t have “His Excellency embossed on them as has been done in Abuja by barbarians who don’t understand the first thing about protocol. The fact that elected officials in Nigeria want to dress themselves in these borrowed robes only testifies to their emptiness. Excellence is not measured by the position you hold but by the contributions to society. I just want to get that out of the way in order to quickly get to my reasons for writing you this open letter. I am concerned about three entities primarily: our beloved nation Nigeria comes first. Oddly enough, your husband, now president of Nigeria, at the moment comes second. The fate of our children, yours, mine and everybody’s; born and unborn; come third. Yet all those concerns can be addressed adequately if only you will do one thing to which I shall come later. Rumours have it that our president is once again absent from Aso Rock. Additional speculations have it that he is back in Germany and flat on his back as well. Pardon me if these rumours prove to be unfounded; but your husband provoked them by casting a blanket of silence over his staff regarding his true state of health. When truth is stifled, gossip takes over. However, if indeed he is in Germany, he would have left an economy down on its knees needing an urgent blueprint, just as one would require a dialysis machine if afflicted with you know what. Unfortunately, he has not only left the economy hanging on the ropes, he has left us without a credible “spare tyre.” Obasanjo-Atiku feud in the last three years of their ticket has put paid to a VP taking charge in the absence of the president. And the fate of Babagana Kingibe has also ensured that the secretary to the Federal Government, SFG, might as well go farming because any pro-active move on his part might be misconstrued as attempt at “administrative coup.” As for the Senate president, you might as well look for snow in the burning sun of the Sahara desert as to expect a spark of meaningful leadership from him. Now, Madam, I believe you love Nigeria; at least I have no reason to doubt it. I also believe you love your husband. And there is a great deal lovable about the gentleman. Finally, I strongly believe you love your kids and Nigerian kids – born and unborn because I have been told you are a devoted mother. Yet something endangers all three; Nigeria, Umoru Yar’Adua and our kids. That thing is – your husband. Let me quickly explain. Former British prime minister, Harold Wilson, in the 1970s left us with these words on granite for all time: “A week in politics is a long time”. (Vanguard Book of Quotations p.271). And nothing has demonstrated the truthfulness of that statement than the current global economic meltdown which stared in just one unforgettable week last year. The entire world has not recovered since then. More importantly, the countries that are blessed with vigorous, (because vigour is vital in a leader faced with crisis) leaders, have developed their own means of crawling out of the whole. Given the globalization of markets, most of them are looking to exports of goods and services to bail themselves out. More to the point, their leaders are on their feet – not flat on their backs !!! If indeed the president of Nigeria is away, he has left for more than a week, an economy endangered. The budget he sent to the National Assembly, NASS, was hastily passed by an unthinking Senate. Divinely, the younger, more visionary and patriotic, elements in the House would not be stampeded into rubber stamping drivel. They intend to go over the damn thing every line. That is as it should be. But, again in countries having real leaders, the fact that the NASS has not passed the budget need not delay other measures which could have positive impact on our economy. For instance, it has been established by the verdict of history that: “Behind the facts of economics are the facts of psychology…The emotions of fear and confidence…constitute a very important medium through which we see economic values.” Every other world leader is not only presenting blueprints but he/she is also going out meeting business people, labour, civil society and assuring them that their government will not allow them to suffer unnecessarily. That constitutes the basic elements of confidence building which serves as underpinning to the budget. For instance, despite the fact that a lot of people have serious misgivings about the US bail out plan, the fact that Bush and Obama are out there seen to be working addresses the emotions of fear which nobody in Nigeria is doing at the moment. Yet, a week is a long time in politics and the economy as well. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/11/29/open-letter-to-mrs-turai-yaradua/ |
| Politics › Re: Is It Just Me Or Do Ibos Simply Dislike Yorubas?!? by Beaf: 7:27am On Nov 29, 2009 |
brooklyn99:So you, a fuc.king hispanic think you can come here and say Africans are pieces of sh.it? Have you sorted the reason why your parents, brothers, sisters , aunties and uncles are all high on coke and gunning each other down over drugs? You are probably too drugged up to fit into society. Ungrateful bastard that was picked from the gutter by a Nigerian step dad.
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| Politics › Re: Senator Jibril Aminu - True Federation, Federalism, Okah Agenda, It’s Nonsense by Beaf(op): 7:10am On Nov 29, 2009 |
When you square the fact that senators are paid in excess of 50 million per month with the bullshit the man is uttering, you can easily see why he wants the status quo to continue. |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 6:58am On Nov 29, 2009 |
In a saner political environment, the president would have at least taken time off and properly handed over power. God forbid, but imagine there was some kind of disaster; who would be there to declare a state of emergency, visit the affected and take minute by minute decisions?? The country has been left rudderless and in danger by the inordinate political ambitions of a greedy cabal. |
| Politics › Yar’adua May Not Return Soon by Beaf(op): 5:13am On Nov 29, 2009 |
Yar’Adua may not return yet — Doctors By ENYERIBE EJIOGU Sunday, November 29, 2009 After several months of playing ‘hide and seek’ with Nigerians over the health of President Umaru Yar’Adua, the presidency finally came face to face with reality and officially revealed the name of the ‘demon’ that has plagued the nation’s First Citizen. In a statement issued on Thursday, Senior Special Assistant to the President (Media and Publicity), Segun Adeniyi, had said Yar’Adua, who was ferried to a Saudi Arabian hospital in an air ambulance, was undergoing treatment for acute pericarditis caused by Churg-Strauss Syndrome, a condition that had plagued the president for sometime and led to his developing end stage renal disease and ultimately kidney failure. Pericarditis is an inflammation of the pericardium, the membrane forming the outer covering of the heart. The inflammation may cause a thickening and roughening of the membrane and an accumulation of fluid in the sac surrounding the heart. While wishing the president well, Dr Emmanuel Enabulele, a surgeon and medical director of Joekem Clinic, told Sunday Sun that for “somebody who had been chronically ill, and now developing acute pericarditis, in health terms, it means that he has more days of hospitalization.” Continuing, he said: “Most acute pericarditis cases take a minimum of six weeks to resolve; usually when pericarditis occurs it becomes a little difficult to know what must have caused it. But we know that he had a renal condition, and uremia is a known cause of pericarditis, it just means that days of hospitalization ahead of us are still many. Definitely, he would have more days of hospitalization and government must find a way to keep working. That is the way it should be taken.” We’re not ready for political upheaval Clearly determined not to be drawn into any speculations as to whether the president could continue to function in office given his present circumstance, he advised that what should be uppermost in the minds of Nigerians is the need to give Yar’Adua the time necessary for him to recover his health. His words: “Sentiments apart, there are constitutional provisions. But what it means for now is that he needs to have enough time to recover from his condition. Depending on how the illness progresses, then the issue of continuing in office, which is bound to generate political heat, will have to be confronted. But for now he needs to recover his health back, both the renal function, cardiac function and the causative factor that might have led to the pericarditis have to be dealt with. From there, after the assessment then the issue of continuing in office can be debated. But knowing what this country is, it is likely to generate a lot of sensitive political maneuverings and I don’t think that we are ready for that now. The nation is not ready for such now. At least there is a government on ground, let us keep managing the way we have been. After all the man has not been very active all these past months due to his clinical condition that has been clouded with a kind of mist till now that the chicken is coming home to roost.” Though the president had once boasted during his first nationally televised interactive session with senior editors, that he could sustain an energetic game of squash. There are genuine concerns that the president has been laid low by his deteriorating health condition. For as long as Nigerians can remember, most of the responsibilities of the president have been delegated to capable aides. Against this background, medical director of Dayspring Hospital and Secretary of Lagos State Cahpter of Nigeria Medical Association, Dr. Sam Adebayo, and Enabulele both argued that the president could still continue to function to some minimal level. According to Adebayo, “being an acute situation, it can be resolved easily. There is none of our teaching hospital that cannot diagnose and treat this condition adequately. Even some people would have it would just resolve without their knowing that they have it. That shouldn’t disturb him as the President, except that there are other medical issues, which are not known. When it comes to his health issue, there is a lot hidden in secrecy. What the people know is based on mere speculation. Nobody has actually come out to say categorically what is ailing the president. To start with he is not even being managed in Nigeria. “Last time when he went to Germany, they said he had catarrh. If as they have said that he has pericarditis, then there is no big deal about it. It is a condition that can resolve under proper medical management. If presidency wants to inform us, we the citizens, about the health condition of our president they should update us well. And if they don’t, they can keep the information with them. We don’t know much about the president’s health condition. The presidency should not be fuelling speculation about Yar’Adua’s health. We want him to live out the full potential of the life given to him by God.” Dr Enabulele, on his part, however said: “Nigerians shouldn’t start getting too worried about the president. There shouldn’t be any unnecessary manoeuvre for now. Let’s wait for the outcome of the treatment; let’s see whether the so-called pericarditis is now progressing from acute to chronic. Acute pericarditis can resolve in six weeks. Anything above six weeks, we start talking about sub-acute; if it then moves from sub-acute to chronic, that is a situation that would necessitate serious debate.” When the president’s condition progresses to chronic, what are the implications for the country? To this Enabulele responded: “Of course, the person becomes more debilitated, more fatigued and the general health condition is not such that you could engage in very active services, which governing entails. Being the person he is, and the type of enormous powers and resources he controls, I am sure by that time, something definite must have been done.” http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2009/nov/29/national-29-11-2009-00-001.htm |
| Politics › Re: End Of Rumour: I’m Not Under Pressure To Resign –vice President by Beaf: 4:59am On Nov 29, 2009 |
Another group, United Niger Delta Energy Development Security Strategy (UNDEDSS), e[b]qually warned that the Niger Delta might secede over the plot against Jonathan[/b].http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2009/nov/29/national-29-11-2009-00-002.htm |
| Politics › Re: Senator Jibril Aminu - True Federation, Federalism, Okah Agenda, It’s Nonsense by Beaf(op): 4:44am On Nov 29, 2009 |
He is part of the dinosaur ruling class responsible for the criminal empoverishment of Nigeria and the almajiri explosion in the North. Up till today, under age girls are forced into marriage in his state, yet he was once minister of education. |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 4:29am On Nov 29, 2009 |
@becomrich Can you not discuss without posting meaningless maps? What is wrong with you? Do you think we don't have access to google? |
| Politics › Re: Senator Jibril Aminu - True Federation, Federalism, Okah Agenda, It’s Nonsense by Beaf(op): 4:24am On Nov 29, 2009 |
The voice of the hegemony. . . This is the wisdom of the man under whose[b] many watches[/b] as minister of petroleum, our refineries packed up one after the other. |
| Politics › Senator Jibril Aminu - True Federation, Federalism, Okah Agenda, It’s Nonsense by Beaf(op): 4:21am On Nov 29, 2009 |
[size=14pt]I pray we solve Nigeria’s problems without bloodshed — Senator Jibril Aminu[/size] Interview Nov 29, 2009 By Jide Ajani, Deputy Editor *Insists deregulation is the only way forward *Says Nigeria has invested heavily in education *‘Some people are still living with prejudices of the First Republic’ In this concluding part of the interview with Senator Jubril Aminu, some of his comments came across as scary. Sampler: Look at what happened in Lagos between the Oodua Peoples Congress, OPC, and the Hausas and not until they invited the Nigerian Army did the crisis go down. Or the crisis in Jos, Plateau State, and even the Police had to give up until they called the Nigerian Army. So it is the protection of the federal government that people are always looking for and that is why I insist and believe that Nigerians (and mind you not politicians) want a unitary government. The people are more comfortable with the federal government and I have been saying this long before all these crises started. People don’t trust their neighbours; people don’t like their neighbours. They would like a big brother to watch over them and protect them. SO we should lose the identity of a true federation to be protected? Yes, you’re right. But you have to take all these things together because if you give people what they call fiscal federalism, you must be prepared for what will follow. Again, people who talk like that don’t get it. Take, for instance, somebody from Osun State or Adamawa State: In what way will that fiscal federalism benefit them; it’s a thing caused by the long standing problems that we’ve confronted and because people are still living basically in the psychology of the First Republic, they think it is the north that is benefitting from what we have now and that other states are not benefitting, it is not true. Go to Ebonyi State and talk fiscal federalism to them, or Ekiti State, or even Oyo State, in what way would it benefit them? We have to be honest and realistic and talk about it ourselves. People talk about fiscal federalism and they want to claim oil fields which are off shore? How can a state which was not in existence but which was created by the federal government be talking about fiscal federalism? Then they quickly rush to the United States of America and bring examples; that is intellectual dishonesty. Every state in America came voluntarily or was one of the 13 states. The others were either bought over or conquered and that is why you have a big state like California which, if it had been a nation state would have been the 13th largest economy in the world, together with Connecticut, where you can run from one end of the state to the other, but because each state came on its own separate terms. There are a number of states in Nigeria today that before their creation by the federal government never existed. Prof. Jubril Aminu For instance, Jigawa. Had anybody ever heard the name Jigawa before it was created? Ebonyi, was that name in existence before the creation of what is today known as Ebonyi State? Akwa Ibom, did anybody ever hear the name Akwa Ibom before the creation of the state? There are a number of these states created by the federal government, in fact every state in this country was created by the federal government. The only region that was created even by civilians was the Mid-West Region in 1963, every other state was created by the federal government of Nigeria under military regimes. And, mind you, the military is a unitary type of government and people are happy about those creations. If tomorrow, you open the door for the creation of 20 more states in Nigeria, you will get them immediately because there are demands already. So, what this means is that people feel happier when they have their own units because they still feel uncomfortable with what is on ground. So, we should just keep breaking them up? That is what people are talking about. We keep breaking them up until even they themselves would no longer believe that they have a state. If you have a state that you can run across in less than three hours then the people are deceiving themselves when they claim that they have their own state. Now, there are some of these states today talking about true federalism, they are no regions. When the regions were in place, people can talk like that, but not today. You talked about the mentality of the First Republic but you would agree that things have gone progressively worse since the First Republic and some people are saying and asking why can’t we go back to what we had before because the level of personal comfort was there, the economy was better, life expectancy was good? Well, there are a number of reasons for what you’ve mentioned and it has absolutely nothing to do with the way the country is structured. Number one is the population of Nigeria. If you notice, our biggest problem in Nigeria is that we keep running away from the most important problems and we keep talking about other things and I can tell you that the most important problem in the country today is the population. It is not even so much a matter of population explosion but the way things are going. 50 per cent of the population of this country is under 20 years. So if we take the figure that we are 140 million people, what it means is that 70 million people are under the age of 70. What that means is that half of our population is not earning anything. And then apart from that they are not working. The other day during the Babangida era we were discussing and we found out that in a family of 10, only one person is working and that means all the others are dependants. Why can’t we be poor and why won’t we be poor? Who are we? Where is the wealth? Are we Saudi Arabia? And even Saudi Arabia people work. Americans work; Japanese work. Everybody works. But you say it as if it is that easy, where are the jobs? Absolutely, people are waiting for jobs to come. In those days you referred to, where were the jobs? In those days we had only one university. When you finished and you got out of Ibadan (University) you already had offers of a job. Why? It wasn’t particularly because education was at its highest or because there was more money. No; but because there were no universities churning out graduates. You kindly waited for me to see those medical students before this interview. Do you know that there are now 60,000 medical students in Nigeria? 60,000! They told me just now and they are members. 60,000! I asked them if they were sure and they showed me the list and when they mentioned the names of some medical schools I didn’t know or dreamt that there were this many medical schools. In our own time it was just Ibadan, one medical school. The school took about, how many of us? 50! Is that the same thing as today? We avoid the most serious problems of people not working, of people increasing in numbers and of people with the views of the First Republic: North, South, East and West and all the prejudices of our leaders of the First Republic; the ones they had to live with and we’re living with them today and we expect to do well. We will not do well. So, what should we be doing now to solve some of these problems because I’m a bit more frightened based on the way you’ve analysed it. What should be the way forward? Okay look, I’m always praying that we solve our problems without any bloodshed. Amen? It’s being unrealistic. It’s being unrealistic but let it be minimal; because these things have got to be corrected and we expect as the job of leaders and intellectual elites and thinkers in the place to work out ways of solving this problems. People behave and talk like you can get up tomorrow and break up Nigeria. They’re crazy! You can’t! Of course you can no longer break up Nigeria easily, peacefully or completely because you are not sure of what you are going to end up with. It’s no longer so. How do you start? They talk like tomorrow I can stand up and say ‘okay you Kwara people, move down south and join the west.’ You can see that the Yoruba area is the most homogeneous, they have no minorities, but even there it would not be easy how much more when you go to the East or you go to the North. In Ogun State, ordinary power shift being advocated by the governor has become a problem. People have got to begin to think along the lines of the fact that if we are to solve the problems of Nigeria, we should solve it along the lines of one country, in the context of the advances we have made, in the context of tolerance. Like Reverend Father Hassan Kukah said, ‘Nigeria is like a Catholic marriage; it might not be perfect but it would not break up’. And that is the case and when I sit down I look at it I feel very depressed that people can just sit down and talk about true federation, federalism, Okah Agenda, it’s nonsense. . . More here; http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/11/29/i-pray-we-solve-nigeria%E2%80%99s-problems-without-bloodshed-%E2%80%94-senator-jibril-aminu/
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| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 4:07am On Nov 29, 2009 |
[quote author=becomrich, link=topic=358492.msg5014464#msg5014464 date=1259463817]Which level you enter. they can replace jonathan. they replace Ernest Shonekan. This is why to avoid war, remove the yorubas, edo, delta and bayelsa into benin republic , so that we all have peace and they can ask Jonathan to resign.[/quote]You yarning dust as usual. Which war? With what? Foreign reserves? My friend allow another delusion to sieze you. |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 3:44am On Nov 29, 2009 |
Kobojunkie:This is what the first link you posted says; Kobojunkie: [Quote]When a leader swears an OATH, it is OF GREAT IMPORTANCE as it is SOLID WORD that he/she will carry out the duties of his office. Remember when Obama was sworn in? Remember it was decided he do it again? It was NOT FOR JOKES. It was because an OATH is considered a sort of VERBAL SIGNATURE and should be treated in that way.[/quote]I see. Your answer is that he is constituitionally unfit because he took an oath to his office!!!!! Unu go kill person wit laugh o! www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6 |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 3:31am On Nov 29, 2009 |
Kobojunkie:Really? It has been asked over and over. Here are a few instances (more can be provided on demand  );https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-358492.160.html#msg5013770 https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-358492.192.html#msg5014073 https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-358492.224.html#msg5014294 You've utterly flunked your bizare arguments about gossip, oath and constituition. Regurgitating arguments against your position in your defense is funny and disconnected. |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 3:21am On Nov 29, 2009 |
Kobojunkie:Sorry, we asked you to give constituitional proof that the VP is not fit to hold his position. Is this it? Because, all you are doing is regurgitating SapeleGuy's argument, how does that even support your position? Dishonest. |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 3:04am On Nov 29, 2009 |
Kobojunkie:We say it does, but you have continued arguing with the evidence we provided. Where is your own evidence in support of your own stance or [size=14pt]are you guilty of spreading gossip?[/size] |
| Politics › Re: Port Harcourt Trans-amadi Meat Market. by Beaf: 2:53am On Nov 29, 2009 |
dreeldee:Don't mind them jare! It is for such reasons that we continue moving backwards. There once used to be health and standards workers in our markets, enforcing proper methods and making sure articles were fit for sale. That is all gone now and lawlessness prevails, these days "patriotic" people want us to roast beef and goat meat with tires; they somehow see suicide out of stupidity as some flavour of patriotism. Patriotism to what? Poisoning ourselves and children with burnt tires or patriotism to the feet stepping on the meat that we eat? It surely isn't patriotism to Nigeria, it must go by another name; foolishness. We are slowly regressing to the stone age. |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 2:34am On Nov 29, 2009 |
Kobojunkie:Make his stance known to who? How? The minister of aviation has no business attending a meeting of presidents, egg heads and defense / energy ministers. The nuclear world has little to do with aircraft. . . So, sensibly the minister of aviation was not sent (even though he took an OATH). Aside from that, common sense states that in the absence of the president, his VP should be sent. I am still waiting for your proof that the man is unfit according to the contituition. |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 2:20am On Nov 29, 2009 |
Kobojunkie:Laughable. Do you expect him to write you and I a letter stating how he has asked Yar Adua for his rights or do you feel he should be carrying placards around Aso Rock? Fail. Kobojunkie:So he is indisposed and sends his wife (whom no one voted for and who took no OATH ) instead of his VP and that doesn't tell you she is more powerful than the VP? Fail. |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 2:05am On Nov 29, 2009 |
Kobojunkie:Really? That Turai is more powerful is incredibly easy to prove. How many times has power ever been delegated to Goodluck? Ok. I'll start with the first example of Turai's power (I'll expect that you can come up with at least one counter against Jonathan Goodluck). Here goes; when Yar Adua was indiposed, who was sent to represent Nigeria and sign documents / treaties on Nigeria's behalf at The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)? Answer: Turai, Jonathan was home twiddling his thumbs because he was not delegated. Over to you. . . |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 1:33am On Nov 29, 2009 |
Sure, if Yar adua kaputs, Goodluck CONSTITUTIONALLY ought to step in, however, the people calling for him to resign as well have legit reasons to as he has shown he is an INCOMPETENT VP and so I too see reason for such a call.Disingenuous. Nobody has called for him to resign because they fill he isn't competent. Nowhere has such been stated. They have called on him to resign because "it is their turn". |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 1:08am On Nov 29, 2009 |
naijaking1:There are yet unsubstantiated rumours about that. There are reports that he may actually be on life support but this has been dismissed by several “friends of the President” who called less than an hour after our initial report titled “President Yar’Adua on Life Support?” was published.http://www.thetimesofnigeria.com/TON/Article.aspx?id=2307 |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 1:04am On Nov 29, 2009 |
Kobojunkie:Holding up an oath does not prove that an office holder is not competent. The posting of that oath showed a lack of understanding of how the law operates and invalidated your arguments about Jonathans fitness (or lack) for the job of president. |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 12:52am On Nov 29, 2009 |
Kobojunkie:Sorry, but the oath is only taken to show that the taker accepts their new office and will carry out their duties in line with the constituition. The oath can be to Shango or Egbesu (or even some piece of wood in the takers backyard), it is never to Nigeria. |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 12:28am On Nov 29, 2009 |
There can't be anything more obvious than "Atiku is from the "kingmaker" Hausa/Fulani, Jonathan is from a minority ethnic group". Atiku is Fulani and Jonathan is Ijaw, plain as daylight. Yes Goodluck Jonathan took an oath to act in the interest of the people, but that oath does not set out how he should fulfil his roll. Rather, his role is set out in the constituition, not in any oath he took. If you think he is a figurehead only, you've got to prove it from the constituition. |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 12:19am On Nov 29, 2009 |
Kobojunkie:Did I make it out as an excuse? It is the obvious. What was the reason why you posted the oath? |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 12:16am On Nov 29, 2009 |
Kobojunkie:Atiku is from the "kingmaker" Hausa/Fulani, Jonathan is from a minority ethnic group. |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 12:11am On Nov 29, 2009 |
I'm at a loss as to why the oath was posted. Does it explain the constituitional writ (where the president in incapable) or the VP's day to day duties duties? |
| Politics › Re: Port Harcourt Trans-amadi Meat Market. by Beaf: 12:01am On Nov 29, 2009 |
ezeagu:So why not avoid situations were health is endangered in the first place? Also, your assertion that there are no adverse effects to preparing meat with burning tires could not be more wrong. Please review the quotation below and and search google yourself for the health effects of just burning tires alone (talkless of preparing meat that way). The list of chemicals is from here http://www.energyjustice.net/tires/rasputinn:Sarcastic? |
| Politics › Re: Dr. Goodluck Jonathan Comes Under Pressure To Resign by Beaf(op): 11:44pm On Nov 28, 2009 |
Jonathan is currently the VP regardless of what we think about his fitness. The two quotes below are the things that should be concerning us. They throw our countries state of affairs into stack perspective. ”They are saying that it is the only way to preserve the peace and unity of the country. The North would not accept a Southern President so soon after former President Olusegun Obasanjo and that the powerful elements in the region believe that the former President set up the North. They believe that Obasanjo knew that Yar‘Adua was too ill to complete his term, so he foisted him on the region so that power would return to the South.” Also on Friday, sources told Saturday Punch that the Vice President had summoned an emergency meeting of Ijaw leaders to deliberate on what his response to the pressure should be. Leaders of the Ijaw National Congress, the umbrella body of the VP‘s Ijaw ethnic group in the Niger Delta, were said to have been invited for a closed door meeting with the VP to deliberate on the issue. |
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