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You cannot support gender equality and bash feminism.[/quote]Same can be said of masculism.

Feminism is about gender equality too .

Same can be said of masculism.

The reason why you don't hear of masculinity is because men are the most favoured gender.

You don't have to lie to further your movement.

The majority of gender discrimination,stigmatisation and injustice is against women

Lies.

Who are the major victims of rape?
Men or women?

Both genders.

Who are the major victims of domestic violence?
Is it not women?

Both genders suffer DV.

Have you ever heard of male widows/widowers being oppressed and accused of killing their wives?

Countless times.

Have you ever heard of male non-virgins being stigmatised cuz they lost their virginity before marriage?

Ever heard of women being shamed for not providing for their families?

Have you ever heard of men being marginalized in the labour force,politics,government and other leadership positions cuz of gender?

Of course.

Have you ever heard of men trafficking and male sex slavery?

Google is your friend, mister.

List out the gender injustices in the society and you will know that the woman is really suffering.

My friend, shut up. And men are just having a field day?

[Of course some problems in the society affects both genders or men in particular.
But injustice against women is too much that the idea of feminism had to be born to fight it .

Shut up. You're talking trash.

If women were enjoying the privileges that men enjoy today there would be nothing like feminism.

Yeah, right. Remind me when in history women were ever forced to enlist in the army.

But women are the most oppressed gender,that is why feminism is necessary

Lol. Shut up.

If you know the gravity of injustice that women suffer,you will know that men are the most favoured gender.

If I know, if I know. Oga, list them here. Surely, examples must abound.

Over 7,000 women are murdered every year for mercy killings due to female inferiority and to restore family honor.

A simple law will outlaw this. When Mary Slessor put an end to killing twins she didn't set up a pro-twins movement. She simply educated the locals and appealed to the appropriate authorities.

Over half of the world's women have suffered genital mutilation. Some resources estimate over 85%.

I would like to see the stats for genital mutilation in men, which I'm very sure far outnumbers any women can put forward.

Child marriages (girls under 15) occur at alarming rates and a number of children physically and sexually abused in these situations is equally overwhelming.

Again, there are laws for this.

Rape occurs in all forms, but the majority are men-on-women scenarios. Rape is not taken seriously and is incredibly under-reported. Statics in Bangladesh reports that 61% of urban rapists felt no remorse due to social views on women and over 95% of reported rapes led to no convictions.

Well, the stronger rapes the weaker, and most rapists are heterosexual. This should tell you why most rapists are men. There are råpe laws, they should be followed.

Even though women are rising in the workplace, sexualsexual harassment is still thriving as a way to play a power game between genders. Over 50% of women report being sexually harassed at work.

Well, man must toast women.

[Sex trading and forced prostitution are still a dominating business on a global scale.

Young boys are also being bought and sold as sex slaves worldwide. This isn't peculiar to the female gender.

quoteThe media still promotes women as sexual objects dependent on men.

If the media does this, they are only following the leading of women themselves. All we need do is take a cursory look at millions if social media accounts to get a glimpse into how women really see themselves. As they say, art imitates life.

Women face inferior stereotypes socially, but that is the whole article in itself.

What does this even mean?

Wage disparity is real and women are paid less than men for the same jobs with the same degrees.

Lies. The wage gap has been debunked as an insidious myth. I challenge you to prove that women are paid less than men anywhere in this world. I will give you a full year to make your research and come up with such a situation.

Women are pressured by looks. Look at the makeup industry and how much women pay to get the “flawless natural" look to conform.

Women pressure themselves to look good for the best possible mate. This isn't society's fault, these women know they have to look good to attract men. The makeup industry is making a killing because women want to outdo their peers in the attraction department.

[quote author=BlackManta post=62687818][/quote]If you believe in equality, you're a masculinist. Sorry to tell you.

All feminists should be masculinists. That is true equality. When women agree to be masculinists, I will agree to become a feminist. Till then, every gender for themselves.

Most Nigerian feminists wake up years after their delusion is spent. The Nigerian society gives them the much required wakeup call

Women seem to think their demands should be met just because such demands exist in the first place. Unfortunately, that's not how it is in relation life. This babe us making it sound like Sarkodie hasn't snubbed male artistes which couldn't be further from the truth. Even she go done snub some male artistes, did she do that because she's female and there male. There's nothing as disgusting as identity politics victim claiming. Besides, Yemi sings back music for Nigeria. Stick to your Swahili market.

Toks2008:
Excatly the point,nothing bad in looking for a graduate but you just might be brushing off Ngozi the homely and virtuous girl from the village who could make you very happy all the days of your life.

Most underrated comment.

If this girl possesses any sort of beauty, it sure isn't physical beauty. She's a little bit less than average.

Lol. Can my wife lay down her life for me like my mother would? Everybody gets the level of love they have invested and can invest. If you cannot do more than my mom, sorry is your name. You will only get peripheral love

Wife that ordinary loss of job she will begin to form one useless attitude? Tufiakwa.

Obalende:
These are unsubstantiated claims. Honorable Mary Slessor stopped the killing of twins among the Efiks in Nigeria - before then it was natures design to them.

You indirectly acknowledge toxic masculinity - this is a good starting point. It is possible to curb toxic masculinity - it takes women to curb it.

This testosterone you mention is also responsible for violent rapes of numerous women - so we do not want your testosterone - women are fully capable of achieving even more than men - we dont need testosterone linked achievements if it comes with rape, mass shootings and animalistic savagery.

You're obtuse. Your comment is fraught with logical fallacies. But go on, change the world. Men are the problem. Lol.

Please note I was born male but with a female gender identity hence use of "we".

Hahahahahaha. Dude, you need help. Get your peopel on the phone.

NwaAmaikpe:


This is the type of wife every wise man should pray for;

A lady with a contrite spirit,
One who has gone astray like the prodigal son and has decided to come back home.
An experienced woman who knows what she wants.

I love this.

Trash. This is the kind of woman every man should avoid. The kind that has been there and done it all, even what the nice guys cannot dream of doing. A cumbucket who wants to sell off her depleted goods to an unsuspecting fellow. God forbid, I or any of my chikdren marry this sort.

This is an experienced woman who has given her best to those undeserving of it and is most likely settling for you because you can offer security and predictability. She's not with you because she's attracted to your boring self. She's with you because she knows she's safe with you. . But you know what? Those things that make her punana tingle still make it tingle and you don't have it, bad boys have it. And when she's bored, she will seek them out and lay it all down again, and again, and again while you pay for maintenance.

There is a reason why Okafor's law is a thing. A very potent, real thing. Marry a 'reformed' ho at your own peril. Then you will truly learn "you cannot make a ho a housewife".

Obalende:
Below is multi-year murders committed in Chicago by gender - note the % male vs % female figures. Why is it so hard to accept the obvious truth? Ego?

https://cpdnews.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Murder-Crime-Trends-Murders-by-Gender-1998-2007.pdf

I have told you, men will always surpass women in any index, whether good or bad. It is not a man problem, it is nature's design. Men outnumber women in every endeavour of human existence. No amount of feminist indoctrination will change that. The only thing you can do to change this is eliminating testosterone. However, if you did, you would be forfeiting every good thing that testosterone has contributed like technological advancement(surely you must have data for how it's divided between the sexes?)

Obalende:
At least 3,267 people have been shot in Chicago this year, compared to 3,937 this time last year.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-600-homicides-20171120-story.html

This weekend saw 13 people shot in the city, including a 14-year-old boy who was seriously injured.

The boy was walking on Sunday morning in the 2500 block of North Lotus Avenue in the Cragin neighborhood on the Northwest Side when someone shot at him from a vehicle, hitting him in the chest.

He was one of four teens shot over the weekend.

From Friday afternoon to early Monday, one man was fatally shot in what police said was an accident. Anthony Collins, 30, accidentally shot himself Sunday in the 1600 block of North Mango Avenue in the the North Austin neighborhood on the West Side.

How is this trolling?

I have given a practical solution to obvious toxic masculinities of the Chicago men which is same in Nigeria.

Lol. Women don't commit crimes. Now I know. Alright, sir. I hear you

This all boils down to the cost of the relationship and whether or not said dude is willing to pay what he thinks is the price to keep it alive.

You should understand that giving a girlfriend money is not caring for the girlfriend per se, it is actually the guy paying for the maintenance of that relationship. Giving babe's money is really paying for a service, to put it crudely. A service nobody part form his girlfriend can offer.

When he gives bar money, he is not helping her to the detriment of his mother, he is helping himself.

Now, this can be taken too far. After all, too much if everything is bad. Help yourself small, help your mama small. Find a balance. Everybody is happy.

Talk2Bella:
some people are really small minded

I guess Amina Mohammed doesn't have time for her kids too

children need both parents not just the mother, that's where favoritism kicks in, they either start disrespecting one of the parent while holding the other in high esteem

You seem to know if Amina Mohammed has time for her kids or not. So, please tell us how she manages to find sufficient time to raise her kids while traipsing around the world. We would like to learn.

Obalende:
I don't have time for this.
While I am proposing real solutions to real issues you are busy massaging egos.

One practical solution to curb toxic masculinity is to teach young boys about child birth, to have men participate in bringing up kids including feeding / changing diapers - this way they would think twice before they shoot - to also teach men to "think before you shoot" (after having received child birth education to understand you cannpt shoot someone based on a bruised ego - thats savagery not leadership).

Women - this is your time!!! Lead us out of a male crime ridden world!

Hahahahahaha. You're more far gone than I thought. Good luck. In fact, I think you're just trolling

Obalende:
I didnt read everything you typed but the points are:

1. Men are responsible for most crime in Nigeria.
2. Men claim to be leaders in Nigeria but are not showing evidence of leadership e.g. irresponsibility and indiscipline at every sphere.
3. Women who commit less violent crime can teach men to be less violent and curb their toxic masculinities.

These are the points. everything else being said such as history is sentiment.

Let me put this into persprctive for you, young man;

1. Men are the best in making money; legally and illegally

2. Men do beat in school

3. Men do beta in business

4. Men work hardest

5. Men commit the most crimes.

Because of testosterone, men will always surpass women in any field of human endeavour. I challenge you to name one field where women do better than men where men are involved. Just one. I dare you.

The only thing women can teach men is how to be women. Nothing else.

Women cannot teach men to commit less crime because women do not have as much testosterone as men and men do not have as much estrogen as women. Period. Women do less than men because of their hormones.

How many women have been Formula 1 Champions? Do women not compete? How many women have won Nobel Prizes for anything compared to men? Do they not present works? My friend, there is nothing women can teach men; and women cannot fathom what it means to be masculine. The moment a women is claiming to be able to teach a man how to be a man, you have a generation of women wrappers as we have today and it will get worse with the advent of babymamaism as fathers are becoming increasingly absent in their sons' lives.

By the way, are you aware that 80% of criminals didn't have a father or had a weak father? Bet you didn't know that. As women push men outside of the home, more criminals with be birthed. If women want to help in curving the crime rate, they should marry good men and five men more incentive to be good men and fathers.

You're welcome.

These are the points. everything else being said such as history is sentiment.

You're beginning to sound unintelligent. Historical precedents and patterns are now sentiment? Pray tell, were you raised by a single mother? Do you even know your father?

Obalende:
I knew at some point someone would try to descend into getting personal; if we could refrain from that please.

As per bolded, if that is what you believe, you reserve the right to your own beliefs.

I am of the opinion that men became stupid at some point as evidenced by the ills they commit in society (including mass shootings) and hence lost the so called leadership position. Leadership goes to the most qualified. Modern day women show evidence of very strong leadership while nigerian men continue to be ego maniacs.

Feminism is the new dawn. Long live servitude of Nigerian men to girls. Amen.

I have not resorted to perosnal attacks, and as your last paragraph shows, I am very correct when I say you are motivated by feminist teachings. You are a new comer in this fight and you will be schooled appropriately.

My belief has been shaped by history of mankind and my own personal experiences, and I tell you, I'm fully convinced I am in the right. Fully. Convinced.

Modern men haven't become stupid. Men have always been stupid. Always. But for every stupid man, there's one who's logical and a blessing to his community. Violence amongst humankind is nothing new and I'd anything, has abated in recent centuries; all with no help from women. If you have ever read about any society in history, you will notice the ebb and flow of values as well as the rise and fall of empires and dynasties.

One thing you should be aware of, modern women, while having more opportunities than women in any other time in history, are just as obedient to their biological impulses as the women before them. The women you are waiting for to come rescue you are busy selling the vaginas off for the latest iPhones and hair extensions. They can not not and will save
you. They, themselves, are looking to be saved.
.

Men and women are not mates, shoe get size. As you grow older, you will come to accept this truth. You're probably a young man attracted to the sophism and dissimulation that modern feminism employs in propagating their tripe. You will learn when real life experiences expose those feminist lies for what they are. But I guarantee you will suffer before you learn. For you will earn the hard way.

Good luck to Nigerian women, they will need a shitload of it to subjugate the average Nigerian male. For all our faults, we are dopey western males.

Phi001:
So, in the event that the male violent crimes which are in the majority in eliminated (which is impossible by the way), what about the female violent crimes?

If the thread is only aimed at eliminating male violent crimes while actively ignoring the female violent crimes, then it's absolutely ridiculous!!!


Let me give you a good thread; one that aims at reducing (elimination is next to impossible) violent crimes irrespective of whether it's perpetrated by male or female!!!

You can easily tell the motivations of the thread by its contents. What the OP spouts are feminists talking points. All men are rapists. All men are evil. If only men could be eliminated or drastically reduced the world would be such a utopia. . If only they knew.

Obalende:
This thread is about about constructive ways to handle high crime rates in Nigeria - mostly perpetrated by the men - not about gender equality.

My suggestion was a feminist approach - what if we tried female bus drivers and female conductors with male police officers on each bus to tackle one chance robberies? What if marriage was de-emphasized in Nigeria so men feel less financial pressures which could lead them into crime - this way men work for their money and women work for their money. What if aggressive/ toxic male behavior instead of being accepted as "what makes you a man" becomes frowned upon.

We need more suggestions like holocrons.

Lol. The greatest criminals and the greatest criminal stoppers/law enforcers are men for a reason; testosterone. Women cannot handle men. Men are the best at anything in this life of both genders, whether it requires physical or psychological strength. Women were made to follow men. It might not sound politically correct but it is the truth.

I see you've been getting brainwashed by neo-feminism's favourite buzzword: toxic masculinity. But I put it to you that men have developed the world and will continue to do so. Women's contribution is to help men develop the world. Read your history and stop parroting talking points of mentally deranged people who are trying to tell us that humans have more than two genders and that any body can choose to identify as whatever catches their fancy.

Why should there be more woman's voices in governance? Women cannot build a civilisation. If they could they would have already done so. I challenge anybody to give an example of a society that women built better a one by men.

The weather we so admire wasn't built by women. It was built by men. All through the history of mankind, civilisations crumbled when women git more rights than they earned. Giving Nigeria to women will be the end of Nigeria. If women more representation they will have to earn it. None of the guys there got it on a platter.

The gods have given you an opportunity to set yourself free from this relationship. Firstly, your folks don't like her, ordinarily, that should be enough grounds for an end to that relationship.

Secondly, you asked her not to go somewhere and she did. The headship of your home will be contested till you die. Believe me, you don't want a wife you cannot give an order. I'm sure this isn't her first display of lack of respect for your authority in the relationship.

Thirdly, she told you she lost her engagement ring and you believed her. My friend, you are playing with your life. She could have sold it. She could have gone to her real man's house and he seized it. The real man could have collected it from her to sell. The permutations are endless with none of them being good enough.

Do not marry this girl. Save yourself and your children pain.

Mariinee:
Hahaha...you are cocky.

And intelligent and handsome to boot.

greiboy:
bro,

I didn't deliberately avoid anything. I merely pointed out the flaws in your write up. I I simply stated that your write is very biased and one sided. There is no way you can simply state that women are promiscuous because of the attitude of some men just like you can attribute the attitude of a full grown adult to another person.
I believe everyone should be responsible for their actions

Read the last qoute of my first comment again to clarify your doubt.

Stop arguing with yourself. Read my OP again and you can come back to take me to task about what I have actually written, not what you think I wrote

horsepower101:
Yes you are right. I am the real problem. Not the heardmen that slaughter farmers and villagers weekly. The young generation really adore them.

I remember when I used to be like you. I am glad I am not like that anymore. I have little patience for falsehoods and Nigerian unity is a big fraud.

A society is perfectly capable of having more than one problem at a time, just as it is perfectly within its prerogative to tackle each problem the best way it sees fit. Fulani herdsmen murderers can be controlled just as IPOB can be proscribed. These phenomena are not mutually exclusive.

greiboy:
bro

This your comment is extremely one sided and ill-informed. You maybe writing from personal experience, but not everyone have similar experience with you.

Ladies or women can be just as promiscuous as men. There is no none statistics or research which asserts that attitude of men somehow contibutes to that( the promiscuous activities of ladies)

What you have here is some sort of hypothesis based on your perception not hard facts.

For every example you gave, I could easily counter with real life encounters of my own.

You seem o want to deliberately misunderstand my position. Could you point out where I have said women cannot be promiscuous? Please don't mention libido; the average man has a higher libido than the average woman; and libido isn't equal to promiscuity. And please, no anecdotes. I will need you to provide data for a large percentage of the female population.

Mariinee:
Errr...I need conviction.

Well, there's only one way to find out. Hit me in the PM.

vcente:
the best girl in the world is the one who totally gets you, not the one who overlooks all your faults in the name of love.

Another truth bomb. I'm thinking of penning a thread along these lines.

Mariinee:
Lol! Okay, no more kiss.

Why? Is it so bad to have children for me? I guarantee you 100%, they'll be the most intelligent and most good-looking children any man can offer you.

GraGra247:
Human beings handle difficult situations differently . There are those that can't endure.

There are even situations that are impossible to endure.

Exactly, that's why men cannot be blamed for women increasingly selling kitten for material comfort. Any girl who chooses to do that has done so if her own volition.

There is a reason why prostitution is called the oldest profession in the world, and marriage is called legal prostitution.

For every difficult or impossible situation, i will show you two people who have taken very different actions in alleviating their problems. There are prostitutes/oloshos who are from less humble homes than girls who do not sell their bodies. Everybody is solely responsible for their choices.

But the main reason for prostitution is greed and materialism. There are women in this country who work to feed, and they do all sorts of jobs. The oloshos you see are what they are because they want the good things of life through short cuts. There are families with a monthly income of less than 30k and the women(wives and mothers) don't prostitute themselves.

greiboy:
This is absolutely ridiculous

Who told ladies are not after cute and guys with "six packs" just for sex too?.

No man forced any woman to do anything Those ladies attract the kind of man they want.

"Those you surround yourself with are merely the reflection of your personality "

I anticipated this comment. So, I'll shed some more light. I haven't said women don't get attracted to men, however, there is more to the attraction dynamic than meets the eye. Men promise commitment to get sex. Women promise sex to get commitment. No matter how much libido the average woman has, it cannot match the libido of the average man.

Men are basically, walking erections. That's why we don't discriminate when it comes to smashing. We can smash J.Lo and still smash her dirty housegirl as long as housegirl's statistics are on point. That is just the reality. If men had to choose between sex and commitment, we'd choose sex and women would choose commitment.

Mariinee:
OP..I owe you a real kiss.

Be careful. Those who kissed before you have always wanted to have babies for me.

GraGra247:
Ladies are not to blame. Economy is to blame.

No sane person will choose prostitution when she has wealth. I mention "sane"

So, how do you account for girls living in poverty who aren't prostituting themselves but are also virgins