₦airaland Forum

It would amount to an utter waste of time to comment on an incoherent piece of misinformation. However, i was drawn blithely to illusion2's wrong assertion that Awolowo never meddled in his party's affairs! Please revert back to the year 1965 and the chaos of 1966 between Awo and his hitherto godson Akintola

I have strongly advocated that the security of lives and properties be given priority, rather than some sentimental and misplaced desire to encourage the African continent. If the security situation in South Africa does not improve by february, they should be stripped

i think i preferred the maps, this your new style of adding gory pictures aint just it at all Monsieur Cartographer!

The great bob izua himself is afraid? This is interesting.

Obj, yaradua, jonathan, ,,, they are all the same!

@ BJMighty, my point is that i had believed this whole Turai dominance stories for a while, until i decided to start seeking out the facts that back up the claims. Really there are none, just a bunch of speculative hearsays here and there. Turai did not impose it on him to become president, so i don't see why she should impose perpetuation now!

I am sorry if i came out with too much vituperation Miss Frey! Accept my apologies and endeavor to hitherto cease communication with me or individuals of my ilk. Au Revoir

Oh dear, how wrong can you be. On the contrary, i love divergent views, however your misplaced bohemian tactics bothers me. It is either you are well ahead in knowledge of certain happenings in the polity or totally demented. Either way, i did still like to know

Good health is a relative term in this part of the world we live in!

And this thread is an entire waste of bandwidth! I like to know who this Frey character is really.

Don't you all want a "brown" new phone to give pesky police men at checkpoints?

Otokx, that seems a better prayer since we are in the praying mood.

I'm not sure you can blame religion for this - religion adapts to the culture it is presented in. The fact that it's happening in reverse says more about the people than about the beliefs. Solarin, Fawehinmi, Soyinka, Zik etc were brought up within that same framework, but they blossomed rather than floundered. Who of the current generation of writers and leaders can be compared with them? I don't think they were simply exceptional, but they were passionate about what they believed and have been consistent. How many nowadays would be willing to put their thinking on the line for the greater good of Nigeria?

You have brought out two clearly succinct points that has eluded many observers of the Nigerian polity for years. The Christians in developed countries like the UK or America for example do not tend towards extremism as those in Nigeria are wont to. The Muslims in Turkey or say Saudi Arabia are not as dingy-minded or fanatical as most in the Nigerian polity are. The society redefines the values of the religion it imbibes! There is the "people" factor that has been silent when analyzing religion in the Nigerian state.

A year ago I listened to an interview with someone who I later recalled was an atheist saying he wasn't impressed by Richard Dawkins' evangelical atheism, in fact he wasn't impressed by the current glut of atheists! He recounted the days when an atheist and theologian could get together and have a good reasoned and passionate debate even if they didn't agree on some things. How many Nigerian Christians do you think would be capable of that without calling hellfire and curses down on the head of someone who doesn't agree with them?

There is the brain drain that accompanies fanaticism and it rejects logical thinking. When the "serfs" are given the space and opportunity to reason and dialogue it puts in jeopardy the Religious leader's sphere of influence over them!

In Europe today - and indeed other parts of the world - a lot of the existing social welfare system had at their root churches and groups of believers providing a service to the community because the government didn't. How much is that happening in modern day Nigeria compared to how many new churches are appearing every day?

There was a conscious effort at liberalization of the man then, the church then, though still having few traces of debatable acts, was really an institution that helped uplift the individuals of then. There was collectivism as a mode of operation. In Nigeria it is simply business enterprise that evades taxation. Cheap blackmails are churned out regularly to extract more form the pockets of the congregation. Same applies to the mosques

dean2725:
Mocking and wishing someone,  that is critically ill, dead is bad and heartless. This man is a human being like everyone of us. He might be the president but, that doesnt  make him immuned from all the pains and anguish a sick person go through.  Remember how people treat you is their karma; how you react is yours. Mind you am not a fan of this man, i believe is doing himself bad by not resigning his post and take care of himself, but we shouldnt be so heartless that we will think making fun of the sick is OK. This guy is someone's dad, brother, bread winner etc . . .O ga o

.,,,,,,,,And he is also my president!!! albeit soon-to-be-dead!

Where is Becomerich when you need him?

however, there are 20 individuals of Northern extraction on that list! This is significant in its outlook. Though this report has not yet been verified, i find it imperative to believe now and disbelieve later.
Paroh Frey and his/her cohorts are barking down a wrong tree

bjmighty:
Aso rock insiders have said it many time without number that she influences the president in much way than anyone can do and i blive thats what all Nigerian are relying on as we cannot walk into aso rock to see our own president! Kai haba!

Is that the name of an aide? or probably a minister? or is it a gathering of high level demagogues? I am lost here friend! And if they have said it "MANY TIMES" it should not take you long reproducing one of their many sayings about here wanton ability to control the state from without!

Turai has been a dominant figure beside the soon-to-be-dead president, undoubtedly her persona and charisma has been there for all to see but does this open air attitude really mean she is in CONTROL of the president? Did she pull the strings to get him INTO power? Would Yar'Adua have become any weaker without her? Really i believe we have made too much hullaballoo about the sphere of influence of this woman

Paroh Frey, i dare say you are losing the true meaning of patriotism, and as such derailing fast on the wings of a misguided notion. It would appear your heart goes to the leaders and political miscreants and not the country Nigeria! There is a distinction between the two my friend! Loving Nigeria now, though not inclusive, would entail disliking the political figure heads sucking us sick! Loving Nigeria now, would involve wishing the president dead! For only his death now shall there spring forth that little sappling of hope that would engender that sapient spirit buried in us and necessary to free us from this oppressive cycle, Only his death now shall i see any reason to further the revolutionary cause. Who says we don't need a little luck sometimes? . This man needs to die, and that is the most patriotic thing to say now, because i LOVE NIGERIA!

Surprisingly, i have already fasted and prayed for the man. The only difference is the nature of the request to the deity i chose to confer with. I requested of the mortal ones to keep the man in a state of perpetual coma if his death shall not bring forth the necessary change pre requisite for freedom. But if his death will, then let his blood redden the earth.

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I really don't know when people will realize that becomerich is [b]always [/b]right. Incoherent though, but he's always right. His maps are all the evidence we need to know that people from Benue State are not Arewa. When even a majority of them now speak fluent Hausa as a common language across the tribes. The maps prove otherwise.

Okay i think that was a bit excessive even for the great cartographer himself, it would appear you are allying with him!

However i must agree with you that he does send across a message, however latent, but due to his past antecedents we ignore with a wave of the hand. There is that possibility of a coup taking place, and i believe the possibility is on the increase as Yar'Adua's situation deteriorates. I am having trouble getting a list of the top fifty military men in the country, that list will no doubt harbor the name of a probable usurper of freedom! So if you can get it for me bro, i'll be a happier man!

The military cannot take over right now because Nigerians are more agitated than we've ever been besides more and more people know that the entire Nigerian Military is just 150,000 strong so there are some of us who will not watch 1 soldier control and oppress 1000 of us.

Are you quite certain of your figures bro? The vassal nature in many Nigerians cease to die, it repudiates freedom and anger the cause of freewill. I can assure you that we will get to the day when Nigerians shall stand up for their right, but still that day wont come at least in the next two decades!!!
There is only agitation amongst a few, verbal at its best but that is not enough to save a people known for reticence from a coup that WILL be bloody!.

@becomerich

I'm really sorry that they tried to "assassinate" you. I think it may have been a case of mistaken identity. You've got so many IDs that a group may have just decided to weed out some becomeriches, not knowing there's only one. Take heart.

lol

Wow! There has been very low productivity here! Okay then, i nominate Jakumo Aisha and Becomerich.

Here we go again!

This is a sorry and pitiful way to label yourself. I would have expressed some delight if you had shown instances where you actually did take some action! Calling yourself a coward, that is if you are a Nigerian, through a gather-all cloister system is in itself a deeper form of cowardice than that which you tag others with. You have to prove your bravery first to have the indubitable right to regard others as cowards

God cannot create 150 million people and make them stupid!

Really condom, i hope you wear your insignia round your mouth?

Well becomerich has shown some sign of relevant intelligence with his earlier post. Despite his inability to avoid bloviation he exposed some criminal acts of the that revered religious institute

Toba, propaganda has its uses afterall

If you say so!

Irrelevance has never found a better description

A natural reaction! Who loves to see his obituary picture?

His viscera seems to rebel against his very existence. I need not speak any further ill of him, his demise stares us all, what are we prepared to do?