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Funny how JVG always arguing for the big guys. As small as he is

A40:
And if Giannis starts knocking down 20 footers. Pack it up pack it in

Lol, I said the same thing. Bucks are definitely the better team

benji93:
Somebody came to mind when you said this. Is that why he has 6 finals losses? . I didn't call anybody's name ooo.

troublemaker

A40:
Guy. Jrue almost shot his team out of that contest. He's been abysmal and is only getting away with it because he's not named Eric Bledsoe and somehow CP3 has actually been worse.

Can honestly say that homecourt advantage was the only reason the Bucks were always able to rally each time they went behind. Middleton was not super efficient either but his buckets were timely. Giannis can't keep playing facilitator when your point guard is shooting 4/20. They won't get away with this on the road

That is exactly my point. You would rather supporting cast be cold in the beginning, and warm up. Than stay cold and not be able to help at the end of the game. You are not going to beat the Suns in 4 out of 7 games without this formula

A40:
Lol. Let's gloss over the fact that Booker should have fouled out. On the road the onus is usually on the star man to carry the mantle. Booker did his job, the rest didn't. Simple as that. So if they look bad it's because they didn't perform and it has nothing to do with Booker. You wouldn't say this if we switched Booker with Lebron

CP3 was terrible, Ayton ineffective, Bridges same thing the only guy who looked decent was Johnson. Crowder also had a decent game but do you really want to run your offense through Jae Crowder?

Again, that is my point. If you look at the stats, it looks like he did well. But he cost the team several possesions where he tried to be a superhero. Ruined several plays where no one got touches. At one point he told even CP3 to clear out. And he missed on that possession. Again, stop the stat watching, and see the flow of the game. You get everyone hot, and the superstar can take over anytime while the supporting cast stays hot. Giannis made this mistake in game 2. Booker in Game 4.

steady986:
He knocked down the shots at a below par efficiency. Let's not even talk of Jrue. In no situation is it a good idea to have this kind of discrepancy in shots between your superstar and your second option. That's a recipe for failure. The game was unnecessarily close going into clutch time and it could easily have gone the other way if not for some sloppy mistakes and the foul trouble on Booker. There were a couple of times Giannis asked for the ball and Middleton flat out shunned him. Giannis even made his frustration known one certain time the ball went out of bounds. We know Middleton should have the ball in the clutch, as he showed yesterday, but the first 3¾ quarters your superstar should be the one inflicting most of the damage, and maybe they wouldn't have had to face that scare at all. Just like game 3.

Middleton is a jump shooter. He needs the volume. Superstars that share the ball get everyone else going first, then get theirs. All those 50-50 loose balls that they beat the Suns to, it feeds off of being involved in the plays. the 2 games the bucks have won, it has been getting everyone involved, so where is the failure?

Seun:
While the north's tendency to support its people whether or not they have sense has helped them politically, it has also resulted in their region being the most impoverished in the country. The SS and SE people crying about marginalisation are more wealthy and better educated than the people marginalising them. So feel free to continue gloating, but the joke is on you.

To me, this is the real reason for a loose federation. So that everyone can reap what they sow. As it is, states that emphasize child education are subsidizing states that are ok with children skipping school and begging to subsist. Let everyone carry their governing style to its logical conclusion. The bandits and kidnappers plaguing the north are a direct result of policies they implemented.

steady986:
Interesting that Giannis took the most shots among the big 3 in this game. He took just 19. Jrue took 20, and Middleton took a whooping 33 shots. I believe if Giannis had more of the ball and took more shots this game wouldn't have been this close, because his efficiency is always top notch. He's sure of giving you at least 50% shooting every night.

Game 5 would be do or die for both teams. Anyone who wins it will most likely win the championship.

I think its the opposite. If the shots are there, take them. If not, let Jrue and Middleton carry the load. They gave Middleton those looks, and he knocked them down. Fantastic job by Giannis recognizing this, and still playing excellent defense.

On the other hand, Suns deferred to Booker too much, and he tried to carry the team. No one else on the team really got going. Thats the thing with superstar plays. If you rely on it too much, you have likely open teammates that are just standing there. Your stats will look good, everyone else's stat will look bad. This is what happened to Bucks in game 2, and everyone was praising Giannis and blaming the other 2. Now its the suns with Booker dropping 40 and everyone else looking bad.

Bucks wanted this more. Got all the 50-50 balls. Booker needs an attitude adjustment, for real

mattfeuter:
This guy!!!

goat tinz. Game 4 was pivotal in preventing the series becoming 2-2. Lets see if the Suns can do the same tonite

Maestro21:
No, if the issue was being cautious, that would have been fine. It is definitely allowed. The issue was criticism, name-calling, shaming, barefaced lying about something they did not understand. That one is pure bad belle.

I havent seen any of the forerunners name call. I heard Okotie say some uncharitable things, but I dont consider him an exemplar. I cant find anywhere where Adeboye or Okonkwo or Oyedepo, the accused principals have disparaged the man. As for criticism, if you are a leader, it is warranted, as long as it is respectful. If there is any bad belle, it is constantly from folks who keep attacking these guys - they are human, and cannot be everything everybody wants.

Personally, I wouldnt roll with SCOAN, because the miracles he would do those early days smell funny to me. I could very well be wrong, but I'm not taking the chance. Im not his savior, so I mind my business. But I wouldnt recommend something I avoid to other people. I would expect church leaders to do the same for their flock. I dont see any bad belle in this.

Roland17:
Makes sense but the truth is we don’t have much of traditional PG’s ala CP3/ Rondo in the league. The NBA supports scoring PG and now at the FIBA level it is hunting us. Irrespective though I personally don’t think that is the biggest problem.

100%. The FIBA rules do not have a 3s time limit for a big man camping in the restricted area. It also allows a player to tap the ball or swat it away once it touches the rim, unlike NBA where that ball must leave the rim cylinder before you touch it.

Right off the bat, these two rules means that small ball will not be nearly as effective. You need a traditional PG who can facilitate athletic bigs, rather than looking for your own shot. Plus that cylinder rule takes a split second edge off NBA players who are used to letting the ball come off the rim before rebounding.

Lastly, there are no superstar calls. This is something so-called bball analysts like SAS are unable to come to terms with. They cant see past individualistic star-driven game because that is what brings in the money. But FIBA rules give the edge to a well coached and balanced team over the crazy schemes we see in the NBA where the point guard is regularly dropping 45 of a team's 100 points

Roland17:
Hahaha…Baba.. honestly, the NBBF has impressed me tremendously. The NBBF is proof that things can work if we want it to work in 9ja.

The quality of players they have assembled, depth of coaching, quality of friendlies they have put together with excellent planning and logistics in ensuring these things are executed in a timely manner..

This is the first time we are hearing Team no miss flight, money no dey to execute friendlies or people broda wen no sabi ball or wen their broda dey in charge dey inside team.. It is a breath of fresh air.

Wait until they succeed and become famous, then you will see the incompetents that want to fill their bellies come out of the woodwork. Case in point, after that 96 olympics win, super eagles have never gotten all their ducks in a row, from coach to players to administrator. Whoever is the basketball federation chairman right now needs to learn to play politics, if he is not already.

petra1:
Im aware TB Joshua was at one time a member of The Christian Association of Nigeria. C.A.N. comprises of Churches acrross denimination. Catholic, White garmment churches such as cherubim,Celestial ,Aladura ,Methodists, Pentecostal.

Many Pentecodtals Pastors believe that white garment aladura churches are cults and not Christians. but at least the are still in the association.

The Hatred for TB Joshua is simply Persecutions for the strange miracles performed through him. They are so strange that many belive it can only be the devil. because non of them experience such miracles. None

If what you say in the bolded is true, then it is prudent for such elders to be cautious about associating with what they do not understand, no?

where is that f*0l called SAS that was disrespecting Nigerian players names.

PDPGuy:
The Argies don’t know what hit them

I translated this to yoruba in my head

steady986:
The game will be on ESPN as well

Which espn. I no see anything for hia

A40:
They might have to double him. One man is not guarding Giannis, not on that roster

Yeah, you cant trade Giannis points in the paint with Booker jumpshots. Bucks will have the edge. Someone needs to help Crowder out, forget all the gra gra Crowder is not that good on defense. I will gladly trade Giannis in the paint for jumpshots from middleton or jrue all day if possible. Giannis has upped his mental game though, so he is not going to quit easy

Khanben:
How some normal sized people give birth to giants never cease to amaze me

The parents look taller than average, maybe 6ft+?

post=103617349:
Did you know that.... ?

Born in 1998. ok

Khanben:
The beat down on Giannis I just don't understand, jrue and Middleton took 43 shots combined and both had bad shooting nights but it is still Giannis fault. I tire

beatdown where? Its a 1 game analysis. why it got to be like all or nothing - you either praise a player all day or hate all day. I can be a giannis fan and still say he didnt get his team mates going in game 2. and I feel vindicated because starting game 3, you can see the coaching decisions to draw plays involving middleton. not just throw the ball to him when there is trouble.

But this game 3 is fools gold. every team will have that one game where their shot is falling easy and the opposing team struggles early. Lets see how game 4 will look if Booker is stroking it early

A40:
Will they even want to deal with our drama? Because I can't in good faith push for anyone to represent such a disorganized entity like Nigeria and it's sports bodies

Let me not lie, this was my thinking as well. I dont want to inflict the Nigerian factor on anyone, ever. Someone will just wake up one morning and make wipe all your life's work out, just so you can come and beg.

steady986:
How much more shots do you expect Robin and Batwoman to take na? Jrue took 21 shots. Giannis took 22. Middleton took 16. Even though there was no ball movement, all those guys can go get their own shot, and that's what they've basically been doing this off season. Ball movement na for guys like PJ and Brook.

Batwoman

Cant find any stats to back me up, but Jrue and Middleton took a lot in the first quarter, and at the end in the 4th. I dont think the raw stats tell the full story. Like all the times Jrue would get into the paint and kick out to the 3pt line, vs taking the shot himself

Roland17:
God have I prayed for yesterday and it happened! I was glued to it and praying desperately and she did it!

Congratulations to 14-year-old Zaila Avant-garde as she becomes the first African American winner of the National Spelling Bee.

To imagine she plays basketball and is regarded as a top 5 prospect.. she also joggles basketball and other tins for fun.

#Murraya

All rounder! I pray her parents can handle the exposure she is getting

steady986:
On a night like this when Giannis was on fire you would expect the supporting cast to do just enough to help secure the win. But no, they chose today to combine for 32% shooting. Very unreliable.

Shaq addressed this in coded language the other night. He called Jrue a professional, that will do exactly what he is asked to do. And that is what kenny smith meant when he said, as a role player, you have to be stubborn enough to still take your own shots on some nights.

Those 42 points from Giannis were empty points. Jrue had been aggressive early on, but they were down by 9pts or so. While Jrue was running a play Giannis barked for the ball, and Jrue hesitated, killed the play and gave up the ball. From that point until mid 4th quarter, he just passed the ball, rather than take shots he was taking earlier. By the fourth Q, most Bucks were cold because there was no meaningful ball movement other than Giannis taking shots. Bucks consistently lost on 50/50 loose balls in the last 3 minutes.

So Giannis had a great game at the expense of team chemistry. Like Shaq said, "professionals" wont say jack, just move on to the next game. Jrue and Middleton will let you pick which version you want per night.

chic2pimp:
I know y'all are shitting on Khris currently and understandably so but don't right Him off yet. He is down for atleast two 30+ games in a series so it's down to the others minus Giannis to capitalise on it when He does go off.

Yeap. Suns had a good shooting day otherwise it would be 1-1. Series aint over

steady986:
Jrue Holiday is such an unreliable player offensively. Add to that the inconsistency of Middleton. This is the supporting cast people expect Giannis to win a championship with?

They are playing really well. The shots are just falling for the Suns. 50% from 3

that cp3 sweet spot is gone, bucks came to play tonite!

nairamaniac:
Pls who else is the best player on the suns?
Is it booker or Ayton?


The opponents are not giving him free rides to get to those spots. He gets there too quick and off mismatches.

Booker for sure. They would rather CP3 go off than Booker go off. If you try to stop him from getting to his sweet spot, he will punish you by helping his team score. So you live with that floater. Less poisonous than a 3pter, or 2 points in the paint and potential and-1

nairamaniac:
The last time we saw a pure-point guard leading his team as the best player to conference finals was steve nash.

Did suns or mavs ever reach the finals with Nash? Cant seem to remeber. Man he was deadly with the suns though. 18 assists per night. But CP3 is not a Nash - he is not that offensively gifted. I do not expect him to even average 25 pts a night - he is not a pure shooter. Or even a scorer.

nairamaniac:
And before steve nash was Tim hardaway(miami heats) and then isaiah thomas(late 80's).

IT is the only one that reminds me of CP3. Nash was a liability on defense. Hardaway was a baller, not a championship PG

nairamaniac:
I don't know too much, but what cris paul is doing so far is scarce.

no doubt. and I dont think there will be a replacement in the NBA

nairamaniac:
He's amazing. This is probably the first time in over 10years(maybe since steve nash) the nba has seen a pure point guard being the best player on a team, still not being a FIRST-SHOOT-POINT-GUARD.

Most A-LIST FIRST-PASS-POINT-GUARDS had 1 or 2 better scorers than them on the same team.
Stockton had malone and honaseck being better scorers. And stockton wasn't best on that team.

Magic had kareem and worthy(somehow)

Nash had Dirk(at some point).

But in our lifetime we haven't really seen a team going deep into a playoffs to finals having it's most dangerous player being a pure-point-guard.

Maybe like once or twice in my lifetime.

Its unbelievable.

He is not the best player on the Suns - he can and will step in and carry the scoring load, but that is not what makes him special. He will knock down 3s if need be, ala Jason Kidd on the Nets, but you wont win a ring using him like that. His primary strength is to cancel the opposing team's coaching adjustments and allow his scorers to eat you raw.

Havent you wondered how he is able to get to that same spot on the floor and shoot those deadly midrange floaters. Like half a dozen times each game, at least. Opponents will rather live with those than have him get his teamates going

nairamaniac:
Why did david stern spoil that trade?
I don't really get the full reasons till now.
I know it had something to do with stern being the defacto gm of new orleans at the time. Or something like that.
Harden needed more scorers around him, hence his move to nets.

Stern said he felt the Hornets were being robbed, that not enough was given in return for CP3. Which was ridiculous, considering they were getting Odom, Scola , KMart and Dragic, all rock solid starters.

The real reason was probably more of payback because of the role CP3 played on behalf of players during the lockout. Till now, there are still refs who like to diminish CP3 when they officiate him, because he demands that respect in player-owner meetings. There is one black uncle tom referee in particular, cant remember his name. He makes sure to give CP3 at least one T every game he can

nairamaniac:
I don't understand o.

It's like this chris paul has been pretending not to be this good for past 10years.

Such unforgivable deciept!

Theres a reason the nba refused to let him join kobe. He knows how to alter the game regardless of his tean. When Harden wasted that opportunity is when I really started hating Harden.

To keep it 100, cp3 of 5 years ago would not play thru injury. But I guess he understands father time better now.

chic2pimp:
Giannis is starting. That's pretty risky if you ask me but hey I am no Roland so let's see How it goes.

Who knows when he gets to the Finals again. I dont like it, but I understand