₦airaland Forum

adioolayi:
How?

The first huddle of not conducting LG elections is crossed, because, it simply means no allocation for such LGAs in such State.


The next huddle will be on how citizens will ensure the Governors don't handpick these Local Government Chairmen...

Hopefully, new law will be passed for INEC to conduct or supervise the LG elections.

As for these new developments..it's a good one.

I think the NA have amended the constitution scrapping off States' electoral bodies and them no longer vested with powers of conducting the LG election but now rather the INEC. The NA have also submitted copies of same to all the SHA to amend theirs.

PointZerom:
Ok.
Just dey play.
You'll now know that your LG chairmen are more looters than your governors.

Let's watch and see about that. There's no LG chairman that can bribe their way into office when it gets to the second tenure. Except they intend to withhold salaries for 3 months prio to elections.

Ebubu2:
Implementation will be the problem

The FG won't need to force any SG to abide by the law and judgement from the SC.
As long as there is no duly elected LG council chairmen and councilors then LG will not get their allocation from the federation account.
The main judgment has now empowered the FG to hold back the LG funds where there is no duly elected council members.

Ojuntana:
If I ask you to cite the case where this methodology was itemised now you'll say another thing. As an educated person, I believe you have written a thesis before. When making a claim in a writing, you either back up your claim with primary data which you analysed yourself or quote relevant sources to back up your claim. You just don't write what you feel like then wait for someone else to come along and confirm it for you. That said, there are already decided cases on defection the latest being the Cross River case in 2022 and in none of them was your methodology used to decide defection. The judges never asked for party register or membership card. However, it is clear that in those cases, it was the party that took the members to court. But even then, the party never tendered party register or letter of defection. So let us go to how the constitution describes the process of defection.
Read below. You can see that the Speaker is to declare a seat vacant once satisfactory evidence has been shown that a member defected. Note that the SC has said the word "shall" is used in the constitution, it means the process mentioned is to be automatic. It does not need judicial stamp or any other permit for such actions to be effected.
The constitution did not prescribe all these your party register or card or whatever, it says "evidence satisfactory". Look at Justice Taiwo's Cross River judgement below. He even cited photographs they took with the party officials of APC even with the intent of the defectors to deceive the court.

If we follow you statement, then under what law was Edison made the Speaker to have declared their seats vacant?

Do you know how a Speaker of a House is elected/appointed?
Also, what was/is the quorum of the House given the number of members if we are to consider that their seatings, rulings and declarations ate legal and have constitutional backing?

opamoses1:
What kind of funny topic title is this : PDP suspends Wike Ally.

How about the COWARDS suspend Wike and the G5 governors instead of going after soft targets, then we will start taking PDP serious.

Wike is a household name. Without mentioning that name, not many people will attend to the news.

001Lagos:
Wike is losing in all fronts

First it was rivers state and now this. He will lose relevance before 2027

You definitely don't have any idea of what's happening. What you read and what you think or feel you know is beyond understanding and discerning.

Islie:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/07/just-in-food-prices-to-crash-in-180-days-agric-minister/

A team of cluelessness. 190 days is 6 months and we are in the 7 month of a 12 calendar year.
By our harvest season certain crops are expected to be on produce from August and onwards meaning with such harvest coming forth its expected that food prices should reduce. But if the reverse is the case giving the Minister's comment then it means the festive season will not be a favourable one.

Karemarealty288:
https://punchng.com/dont-pay-for-transformers-cables-others-nerc-tells-nigerians/#google_vignette

How do we address the issues of no prepaid meters and the unending continuous issuing of estimated bills where there's no light(power) usage but one is being made to pay for darkness?

Ojuntana:
Besides, FHC and the state high court are courts of coordinate jurisdiction so the FHC ruling does not supersede that of the State High court recognising Ehie

This things are simple.
Please what is the quorum of the SHA when Edison was Speaker and even now when Oko is calling himself Speaker?
It's only when a quorum is in place that a meeting in the house for legislative duties becomes effective .

Nemere2020:
Court bars Rivers Chief Judge from acting on resolutions by pro-Wike Assembly

I don't really understand this order?
Which COURT is barring a Judge from handling a matter?
Who is the STAFF of that court or within the judiciary with the powers to bar a judge from taking up a matter?
Is the judge under disciplinary action?

vanitybutiwanti:
Which money? The year has not ended, I think there is a provision in the constitution that allows an elected individual to spend without budget for 6 months, that time has elapsed and that is what they are acting on

There is so no such law of spending public funds without budget.
What is being done is supplementary budget.

That was what PBAT did upon assumption of office and that's what everyone does.

Morbeta11:
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/07/08/90-of-diesel-sold-in-nigerias-filling-stations-illegally-refined-alleges-tompolos-surveillance-firm/

The FG gives one man a surveillance contrac meant for the Nigerian Navy worth billions of dollars monthly. If you tell this same government to increase the salary of the military they will not agree.
Anyways the essence of my post is that our ND former militants are part of problems ravaging the region.
They prefer the short duration business this surveillance contracts bring rather than agitating for investors and even the FG and SG to build refineries in the region and pay good wages which is a long term business.

Judolisco:
I miss fayose, fayose was d only Nigerian Governor or politician that was very close to his people.... You'll see him drinking garri, buying amala and palm wine and gisting with d people like a normal person....na why e dey always win election bdat

Fubara acted very fast.... He should have waited for like 2 yrs, get your own support before fighting, u never even use 8 months u Don dey tackle wike with 3 assembly members... Hava

I guess they say he has the backing of Rivers people.....
Please what is a quorum of that 3 assembly when they seat to give their legislative duties? Because the governance now seems like a comedy.

fergie001:
ChannelsTV's Sunday Interview with Senate Spokesperson, Yemi Adaramodu.

Adaramodu, a former House of Reps member represents Ekiti South Senatorial District

Anchor: How much does an average Senator go home with, in a month. It's a direct question so give a direct answer.

Senate Spokesperson: Yes, it's a direct question and I will give you a direct answer. The direct answer I will give you is that if I tell you it's ten naira, you will not believe it. You are a journalist, there is Freedom of Information Act, go and use it and find out and show the evidence openly to Nigerians so that no Senator or House of Reps person will come here and deny it.

That is the best way to get it.

Anchor: It's not as if we do not have a number but you are the one earning it. It's not a combat, it's just a simple question. Your money is public money, just give us a figure. How much do you earn?

Senate Spokesperson: He who asserts must prove. My brother, my brother when something becomes controversial, the third party which you are, you have to establish the truth. Please use that Act, get to it and just present it to Nigerians, and not spurious allegations.

Anchor: I don't want to belabour the issue, we don't know that's why I am asking you. You are the Spokesperson of the Senate so it's within your rights to help us know the things we don't know.

Senate Spokesperson: You cannot bring an offender to the Court and start asking that offender to provide you with the evidence. So you have brought the offender which is the National Assembly and you now want him to provide you with evidence. How is that possible? The evidence he is going to provide is the evidence that will support his own story.

I don't blame him. Even Shehu Sani can't answer this question. You'll hardly see anyone respond to this question and till that person comes there's no saint amongst those who were once or still members of the National Assembly.

Sitmr:
Don't waste your time. That guy is a fool.

If you say the appeal court judgment is only about jurisdiction and that it doesn't return Amaewhule, why do you need to appeal it?

Just concentrate on the substantive suit which you say is at the federal high court.

Meanwhile, this is the CTC of the judgment delieved by the appeal court. Pay attention to the highlighted part. You'll see why you shouldn't waste time with any fool who tells you the judgment was about jurisdiction

Nice one.
I believe those standing on the side of Fubara and his 3 members know that not everyone will read or care to see the CTC of the judgment and even those who did will interpret out of context and add theirs to sweeten their stand. Likely in the event that the next court judgment don't favour them they will say someone have bribed someone somewhere.
I guess they are looking for which of the HC judges they would want their case to be in front of.
We wish all parties good luck.

phantom:
It's unfortunate that 90% of you arguing here don't even know what the issue is about.. Oko jumbo has headed to the SC for clarification on JURISDICTION!!!
The substantive suit or meat of the matter I.e the case of wether their seats were rightfully declared vacant HAS NOT STARTED!!!

Supreme Court is NOT FINALISING ON wether they defected or not.. Supreme court is simply going to either agree with or disagree with the appeal court that YES, the state high court DOESNT HAVE THE POWER to declare seats vacant.

Once Supreme Court agrees that with appeal court that state high court doesn't have the power to hear the case... all the parties WILL PROCEEED TO Federal high court to now start discussing the main issue of wether declaring seats vacant was im order.

Are you still confused? It's very straightforward!!!

Like I said the SG and Oko and his co- travellers are just stalling which basically is their only game plan.
The verdict of the HC/AC/SC when the real case is brought up still does not change. It's as easy as ABC the outcome of the judgment.
There may be a way but it's just wishful thinking.

billyG:
Did wike spent his personal money

The money Fubara said he used to pay some of those he claimed are fighting him, is the money also his own as well?



Please respond....
Can you claim ownership of money someone owes you when it's not given to you?

phantom:
Those who assert must prove. You defected and your seats declared vacant. Go to court and tell them why you defected AND MUST keep or seat OR that you didn't defect at all. Don't turn law on its head please.

You took someone to court and you're asking the person to come say why he was taken to court?
I don't rigmarole. The same people who claimed that the FHC does not have jurisdiction but the SHC have now seen the judgment of the Appeal Court.
Is it this same case you people want to take to the SC?
You are the one who went to court , so it's your responsibility to show proof of defection in the FHC where jurisdiction lays and let the judge serve judgment.

All this stalling will not help anyone. I dont even know what is the quorum now of a 3 member SHA. Do you?

cutecommend:
Is it bad for Christian couples to have sex after traditional wedding and before white wedding?

This is the answer..
Christian couples can have sex if traditional wedding is the last wedding as agreed by them or their parents etc, and no other wedding after that. But if a couple have another wedding after traditional wedding, please they should not have sex. Have sex only when all weddings are done. You can do only traditional wedding if you wish, you can marry in your father's house etc, as long as both parents approve it..
Lesson: Have sex after all wedding(s) are done.

If you are putting up a Christian or religious write up, it's better you put up Scriptures to back up your posts. Thanks and God bless you richly.

cutecommend:
If a church worker commits adultery or fornication, should they tell their pastor or church leadership about it or just repent and move on?

God is loving, forgiving and merciful, and he forgives the worst sinner.

Now, when a church worker commits fornication or adultery, such worker should in wisdom inform the pastor and seek for prayers also. He or she may also tell a trusted church leader about such acts.

But firstly, the person should repent of it and then speak to a trusted leader or the persons clergy or pastor about such acts. This is in general terms in a bible-believing and good church. This also applies to committing adultery in marriage or cheating in courtship.

Such acts should be confessed to the partner, as God will not like such secrets to be hidden and covered.

You did not quote any Scripture to back up your posts.
Nevertheless, while it's not good to remain in sin or continue in sin but one should know that when a sin of such nature is confessed to your church leadership, you are bounds to abide by whatever punishment is given to you by the church and if one is not careful that disciplinary action would cause you to loose your salvation and consequently fall out of faith. Many have gone down this line and have died or never recovered from the ways certain churches handled it.

Remember after you have received the free gift of salvation the rest of his you live your life in a world full of darkness is a personal thing and also note that God is the one who forgives us of our sins, the sin we commit of our body and we should also forgive ourselves for allowing our bodies to be instruments of sexual sins.
Man forgives the sin that is committed against his fellow man.

peekspot:
https://punchng.com/59-dead-persons-369-ghost-workers-on-anambra-payroll-commission/

Despite all these findings the wage bill for civil servants in the States never reduces.

mairogo:
Okocha forgot that Wike climbed on structures built by others The Jonathan's and Odili and eventually destroyed them to build his own, so Fubara should be allowed to build his own structures.

Did Jonathan and Odili not deliver for Wike in 2015, how did he pay them back?

Which structures are you referring to that the Jonathan's and Odili's built that Wike climbed upon and destroyed?!!!!!
You seem not to know the politics of Rivers State and the rising of Wike other than what you read on socal media.
Please dig deep.
Do you know those who fought and made it possible that CRA became the governor of Rivers State after a rigorous court processes? When you answer this please tell me which structures they used then!!!
Thanks.

phantom:
My brother, the law is an ass... very soon you'll understand that statement.
Oko jumbo is just buying time. Infact, he would have not commenced any action at the Supreme Court and nothing will happen ,
Amaewhule is still the aggrieved "speaker" who is not recognised because he and his cohorts still TILL TODAY have not convinced any court that they didn't defect and should still keep their seats.. they are depending on issues of jurisdiction to still hang in there but it's not possible.

The governor doesn't recognise them so they MUST GET A DEFINITIVE RESOLUTION on the state of their seats..

It is not Amaewhule that will prove that he did not defect . It is those who took him to court will show proof that he actually defected and had right to declare his seat vacant.
This same people are those who were suspended on the floor of the house and are now parading themselves as members of thr house!!!!
Please who lifted up the suspension?
Was it the man who is now as CoS and how many house members were in on the floor when such suspension was lifted?

We seem to be playing around with trifle things and mixing it up because of hatred and dislike for someone.

Ojuntana:
Better. Next time don't go saying what you don't know just to defend politicians

When it happens don't go being sentimental about it because you detest one person and like another.

Remman:
Bless you!

Bless you too.

Remman:
Intermarriage happens everywhere, since we settled closer to the igbos, our ancestors married Igbo daughters to avoid marrying their own siblings and somehow the Igbo daughters married into our land taught their children the Igbo language. And this practice happens till date where children found themselves speaking their mother's language. If the Igbos claim we came from them, let's hear their own Kanu and Ojukwu story about the ancestors of Ikwerres. Before the civil war, the Igbos came to settle in Ikwerre land and began to rename our streets bearing our true ancestral names to their language names. Now during the civil war they killed us and did a lot of evil to us whom they now claim is their brothers (since they're unaware of the language-work of their daughters married by our ancestors). Now, when the war was intensified, they ran away (why would they run if they owned the place?). When we saw how we were tricked by those tribes, we took back our properties they stole from us, we won the battle.

I like this.
Imagine running just because of war to where is their proper and rightful land and left this who are the real owners to die and after the war they intend to return to claim what is not theirs......
The igbos apart from the fulani's are the only tribe trying to claim other peoples land even in this age of technology.

Ojuntana:
You did not answer my question and you did not show that you know the difference between accountant and treasurer.
Again, Okonjo Iweala released $2.1bn without appropriation to the ONSA. When interrogated, she showed written approval from former president Jonathan. Juxtapose this with the fubara case and explain how it is different in line with public service rules. That's what I asked you since you claimed to know so much about it.

Well let's just wait till the dice is rolled and events makes Fubara to release documents he said he has for such approvals.
Then let the security agencies and the courts do their own. Thanks.

countryman13:
When we get to the river, we will know how to cross it. Relax your mind and awaits how it will be funded. Middle belt are well endowed with natural resources oooo .

Nobody argues about the bolded. The question is who is mining it and is it done just the same way those who are mining oil in the SS as well or should I say when will it be done?
Because when they started mining one resources in one of the Northern region it turned out that it belonged to the State and not Nigeria unlike the oil which they say belongs to the North for the North is Nigeria.

Ojuntana:
But Ngozi Iweala showed a written note from Jonathan as reason she moved $2.1bn to Dasuki's office and she was left off the hook. Can you explain why based on your deep knowledge of Nigeria civil and public service rule

Do you know the contents of that note. I am sure the office of Dasuki must have also sent her a note from someone in the Presidency and what she presented was a cover note.

Now, she produced that note based on her position she had a sum value limit as to the amount of money she can approve within her powers vested upon her from that office.
Beyond that it requires the President's approval before it can scale.
Now, these persons here are not career officers in the Nigerian Civil and Public Service.
Remember even OBJ said if anyone is to investigate his former Ministers especially people like her, he should be the one to be held responsible if there is any crime.

Do you remember the case of one fromer CJN Onnoghen that was suspended and removed during PMB first tenure and replaced with the other person from the North. I'm sure you do remember the allegation(s) that was used to remove him from office which wasn't the actual thing that got him in the bad books of the government.

There are certain amounts of monies that has to follow appropriate channels before approval even before it gets to the office of the AG, can Fubara say all those he said his Boss told him to approve followed the right channels?

Do you also think Fubara will be left off the hook if the authorities come to do their auditing? People will definitely say it's witch hunting if they start.

Abbeytoy:
Keep quiet...you didn't see them waving an APC flag in pix with also their decamping statements..isn't that documentary evidence?

Well, I will keep quiet since you're letting your emotions lead you instead of your head and not even ready to learn.

Please present the pictures in the court next time... Have a wonderful night

If I see you holding a broom over your head and waving it while you wore a polo shirt with APC on it, does that make you a member of APC?

So if they had carried a Biafran flag and waved it over their head does that make them Biafrans?

phantom:
As his Acountant General. Will you question your boss when he asks you to carry out transactions approved by him as governor?? You guys make it seem like Fubara could have said No.

Even in the Military where they say "obey the last command" is not completely true especially if the command goes against rules, codes and conduct of operation, a junior officer can say No to the command or order of his superior officer.
Forget about sentiment, please ask those who are career officers in the Civil Service.
Yes, one can get over it given the Nigerian patting on the back but when the rules want to be followed there's nothing that won't make one escape prison sentence.

alphaNomega:
to be fair to Fubara, he would have called WIke out at the time but could not because of his status then as a governor. Now Fubara is the governor, you can see he did not totally agree with wike's shenanigans during his time at the state house.

Time will tell, I want everyone to see the close of the matter

The close of the matter will not favor Fubara if he continues the way he is doing and going.