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fergie001:
He was criticising the guy that there is nothing like Ezeh. Don't read meanings into his meanings.

I wasn't talking about meanings but that there is something like Ezeh.


I know him up to his father's house in Uturu and know his 82-year old father answers Ezeh.

I don't see Ezeh having a different meaning from Eze but know that people answer the name.

Please, you people should not confuse yourselves with spelling.
Let me explain with examples
1. Awkuzu---Ọka Ụzụ
2. Orji----Ọjị̀
3. Ezeh--Eze
4. Udeh--Ude
5. Nzukor--Nzụkọ
6. Amawbia---Ama Ọbịa
7. Ubah---Uba


Do you people get where I am driving at?

Unlike Onuora and Onuoha, the pronounciations of what I listed above are the same just that spelling differed. The difference in spelling is as a result of how well the writer knows the Igbo language.
Technically, it is very rare for a consonant to end Igbo word.

Let me explain further.
Look at the names below and notice if there is any difference
1. Onuoha---Onuohah
2. Onuora---Onuorah

Any difference in pronounciations of the two dialects?

If "Ezeh/Ezeh" being the same in all dialect is to be written in Igbo Language, the spelling will be "Eze"

So Ezeh, Ubah, Udeh are all wrong spellings.

cc Homeboiy, wordcat and Fallenshithole

Usonkwu:
I want to respond to you but don't know how. Anyway, prove to me u are truly Nnewi son of the soil by replying in core Nnewi dialect.

He is an Aboki. Everybody knows him here.
His own mission on Nairaland is to instigate statetism among Ndigbo by claiming Anambra but when matters like this arise, he gives himself out because it requires deep understanding to participate in.
Almost all of Anambra South use "h" instead of "r"

No sensible Igbo man will want to be recruited into Nigerian police for now.

cheruv:
When you give example to back up your point, be sure that your examples when analysed doesn't counter your argument.
For the name "MHMD", which is an Arab name the correct form is Muhammad, bkos in Arabic language there are only three vowels viz a, i, u
For the name "’BRHM", which is a Hebrew name, Abraham is biblical Hebrew bkos unlike modern Hebrew, biblical Hebrew doesn't have v consonant
For the name "YSHW‘", which is a Semitic name, Yeshua is Aramaic(the Hebrew form is Yoshua). Jesus is the Greek form of Yeshua, kos Greek doesn't have the sh sound, and all Greek names must end in s, which Latin also borrowed too.

Ndi mmadụ sef.

Please read from the Jews abeg. I no get time to teach somebody something he won't pay me for.
If you can pay my retainer, I might decide to make an exception.
But for now, manage this limited information
https://www.jewishvoice.org/learn/who-is-yeshua

MelesZenawi:
Same culture that some kill and eat snake?

What sort of same culture is that?

Who even hears what most of you guys speak?

Pls move aside.

In the same Islam that you practice, some do short term marriage (Shia) while Sunni consider it as a Haram.

Are they still the same religion?

INC don't know the weight of this news.
This is the beginning of the fall of the mini political empire Ijaw have been cultivating over the years since the fall of Eastern Region.
Standing up to an oppressor always start with one person and Abua has taken the lead. Expect others to follow.

Abua people have showed people Ijaw are dragging their land with them because 100 hungry people from their nation that doesn't care about the future of the nation registered with INC.

Kalabari, Bonny and Okirika will take this news as an expo. As it stands now, INC to using their name is something that they can terminate at any time. Remembering Boma of BBNaija, everybody can tell that Kalabari, Bonny and Okrika being in INC is a decision made by less than 200 hungry people from those places like the criteria of becoming part of INC states.

I wonder what INC will say when Bonny sue them. Will they, like the drunks of this forum or Asari Dokubo tell them that Ijaw are owners of the land while the citizens that speak Igbo are slaves?
We all know that that term will warrant another law suit and huge compensation will be milked out of INC.
Remember how Opobo destroyed all Ijaw forums, leaders and propagandists at the supreme Court years ago.


In summary, the days of Ijaw including people outside their 4 local government in Bayelsa as Ijaw or part of INC/IYC has come to an end.

Pass11:
cc SlayerForever

bkayy

igboid

I don land like Arụsị

christejames:
They are the same just dialectical differences...


Just like pronouncing Stephen and Steven.

Just use Mohammed and Muhammad to illustrate it so that the OP, Juliusmalema aka MelesZenawi and the other Muslim colleagues that want to balkanize Igboland into states and Clans will understand better.

MelesZenawi:
Why won't it be argued. There is a clear distinction between those names which shows a clear gap between the people culturally and otherwise.

The same the difference in Mohammed and Muhammad shows clear cultural and religious gap between your fellow Muslims right?

Incase you don't know, Igbo is a religion to me as it is to others here, so any term you use for it will be replicated with your own Islamic terminology for you to understand better.

If Mohammed and Muhammad means different thing according to you, I wonder what Buhari's Muhammadu will mean.

The way these scavengers toil with you people show the lack of knowledge in Igbo culture that exists among majority of Ndigbo.

If you are reading this, know that Onuora and Onuoha are the same thing. The difference in spelling is simply based on dialect and in names the way the person spells his is accepted.
Nothing like General form in name.

Cinacci124:
Yes there is a difference. Onuoha is the universal or generally accepted way of writing and pronouncing the name itself, it is called 'Igboizugbe'.

While Onuora stems from how individuals, towns or places in igboland pronounce and write it in their own Igbo dialects.

example: Efele (plate) - Igboizugbe
Afele (plate) - local igbo dialects.or onu ndi-be-ndi.

Will you shattap there. There is nothing like "universal" when writing someone's name.
Both are correct. They will just set music and you people will start jumping up and down.
Can you exert this same energy if it was 1.Muhammad and Mohammed?
2.Abraham and Avraham?
3. JESUS and YESHUA?

AnanseK:
Y

You’re good to go. Was the money recovered from Odua or NOI or Abacha ? Just curious

Whoever it was recovered from doesn't matter. The only Good news is that it was not Chinese loan
So Goodluck discussing with your grand children in Chinese because they are the ones sold into slavery not you.

kmcutez:
Them too fat now. How long will they last on stage?

Will they be having sex on stage?
Chai nwatakịrị a repent for the kingdom is at hand

AnanseK:
The second Niger Bridge comes to mind.

It was paid with the looted money US compelled Nigeria to use for infrastructure.

So you see... We are as free as an old woman

Fahdiga:
We have bad eggs in every sphere of life so Ikpeazu is a bad egg in PDP

LOL
I like the your comment. I like the way you are not stingy with the truth.

If only you know what people hear about you Mr 2face Idibia

Fahdiga:
A party with ideology is working

Is it not the same party Onye Ikpeazụ is part of?

If I can remember clearly, Ikpeazụ is still in PDP

lordm:
And we are still borrowing, don't forget our railways are been funded by China

None pass Igboland.
So, Buhahahaha . Their loss, our gain.

Sometimes, it is a blessing when your enemy despise you, especially if that enemy is as clueless as Nigeria.

Those that Buhari used their region to negotiate for all those lone should start using their tongue to count their teeth, especially Lagos.

Lets not act as if we don't know that the collateral is almost everything in Lagos.

And, How many people are remaining in Southern Kaduna?

nzeobi:
Yes this is what is called sustainable development and it will bring money into the economy not building flyovers for Keke and okada

Flyovers, keke and Okada is built because dumb men are leading another slightly dumber masses.
I still maintain and support the quote that when a fool is elected into power that the masses are well represented.

Look at all Nigerian states, you will see a pattern and that pattern reflect the collective view of the masses.

nzeobi:
Udom is transforming that state with the resources available and I commend him.

When the bua refinery starts working they will use the port for export and aba will also use it

This is what we call development. Thinking into the future.
Dubai was built with the port not the oil. Read my Vision by Ibn Rashid Al-Maktoum.

Oil was used to build the port, then the port was used to attract investment and expatriates to the city.
Having money is one thing and attracting people to come and spend the money with you is another thing. Minus the port, Dubai will just be a rich lonely place that nobody wants to hear of like the other 4 Emirates that nobody wants to hear of in UAE except that they are now becoming part do Dubai Metropolis.

Imagine owing your reputation as being part of your fellow Emirates metropolis. An Emirate in a country just like you. Mehn, vision is what differentiates leaders and Akwa Ibom is not lucky to have one because a leader is the representation of the collective views of the masses.
If you have a clueless /stupid leader or governor then the majority of the state clueless and stupid.
Most Nigerians are stupid and as such will continue to have stupid presidents.

These people are serious oh.
Viva Akwa Ibom, I want you people to know that we are supporting you people from over here.
Make this deep port a reality and save us the stress of Lagos and Apapa port.

Alabo7978:
In simple terms, what this clown is trying to say up there is that professor dike and professor Jones are right and Professors Alagoa and fombo are wrong eh?

Lol. Igbo people.
See, I want you to go to Bonny yourself, and ask the Bonny people where they came from.
Many families trace their ancestry from kolokuma, many traces theirs also to Nembe.
Instead of you trying to tell smelling lies.
Oga the truth is the truth, that is why there is an enormous population of the Igbo diaspora in the south side of America, in the Caribbeans, in Jamaica, in Haiti. Stop lieng motherfucker.
You were SLAVES, big fat farming slaves and you wonder why Encyclopedia only brings forth the verifiable truth of professor Alagoa and Fombo?
Jesus Christ, what is there so hard to see?
Even in the Igbo landing, the stubborn slaves refused to work and they drowned.
The ijoh's sent them there.
Why you dey lie like this?
All this proves, the enormous igbos in allover carribean, Haiti and America you still dey lie like this!
Tufia!
Ekealterego, bkayy, Igboid and the rest of your cheap drug dealing land grabbing psychotic chameleons are fucking liars even the devil is shocked.

Please Eastlink, Slayerforever, Ekealterego and Igboid let's ignore this drunk and have a reasonable conversion.

We will gain nothing by trying to educate a drunk who thinks they sold slaves but can give a name of one their slave traders. A drunk that think they had any edge over anybody but can't show where or prove that anybody saw them as significant during the colonial era.

Someone that rely on Wikipedia, Britannica and arguing what is literally written by Ajayi Crowther like a kid.

Someone that uses word from the language of the other nation he is dragging with to explain the bone of contestion.

Someone that cannot point out any civilisation by his people or any picture of anything depicting them until recent boat regatta of late 90s

That was before Our eyes was opened and we saw reality.

Eastlink:
That’s it. No one challenged Alagoa and Fombo in 1971. And Ijaw only claim to Bonny is the fraudulent write-up by Alagoa nothing more, nothing less.

However, the good thing is that men like late Prof Dike and late Prof Jones have already finished work on Bonny history before the rise of Alagoa. Encyclopedia and Wikipedia are simply Ijaw tool for propaganda sponsored by their leadership as Alagoa’s ideas is what is printed there. Even the speak Ibani (Kalabari dialect) going on in Bonny is Ijaw initiative kick-started by Alagoa and yet the Igbo leadership keeps quiet instead of springing their own surprise.

If you see the way Hellenic Greece Followed Former Yugoslav Macedonia bumper to bumper even to the extent of taking them to court until they changed their name officially from "Macedonia" to "Northern Macedonia"

An attack on someone's history is not a joking matter. Imagine history of Igbo clans that the Eastern Region spent resources to compile was thrown away immediately after the war by one man's article because Nigeria was looking for a way to cut Igbo to bits.
An article that doesn't tally with the reality on ground. Now look at them, even till today Ijaw people are still moving up and down from Bonny to Opobo to Ndoki in an attempt to make an impossibility a reality. Look at Ebi2233 and Alabo7978, see how they are sweating chasing shadows.
This is approximately 50 years since the idea/abomination/stupidity was initiated by Alagoa but what fruit did it yield if it takes a simple push by any Igbo man to dismantle the lies.

The lies are easy to dismantle because unlike Igbo, Ijaw have very little to no existing cultural similarity with the places Nigeria is backing them to claim.
They don't speak the same language.
They don't have similar views etc.

One stumbling to the lies is that whenever an Igbo person, Ikwerre, Ika, Bonny or Opobo that the according to Nigeria are different meet themselves outside their comfort zones, it turns to a reunion. I still remember my first encounter with all the groups in the university, they said they were not Igbo but with time we all started seeing similarities and they started having doubts with their orientation.
After few years, we accepted that we are all the same.

Ekealterego:
You don't even need to go into long argument. The document never said Okoloama. it read, "Okoloma".
Same Okoloma is Ndoki till today.

Samuel Crowther clearly wrote Okoloma, he did not write "Okoloama".

So, since the argument is based on the cut excerpt he is hanging on, let us go by that Okoloma name.

This is Okoloma in Ndoki.

I know my brother. I am just playing along.
I want to know if he could prove that Ubani is Ijaw without using Igbo language and he couldn't.

He ennlogated it to "ama" because he thought that with the little Bonny dialect he knows that "Ama" might mean something different in Igbo but due to ignorance, he didn't know it is basic Igbo that mean the same thing all round.

Mr Alabo7978, you are one hell of a confused but funny dude.

Fejoku:
We were miles ahead of the Ijaws who today are insulting us. There's no single area of comparison. Not in agricultural production, wood carvings, metalsmithing (Ijaws have no single record of any metalsmithing), cloth weaving etc. Their only saving grace was the magnanimity of Ndigbo who took them as equals and related with them fairly. They were a wretched bunch until a few on them ventured into the Eastern shorelines from their ancestral creeks in Bayelsa. You will notice in all of Ijaw history, wealth is only associated with those of them that related with Igbos right from Brass and Nembe into the Kalabari and Okrika Islands. It was our industry and sadly slave trade that helped them grow the little wealth their ancestors tasted. They will only understand this when oil loses value or run dry in their areas.
The king of Brass was like a vassal to Eze Obi Ossai of Aboh. He use to pay something like a tribute to him. Most of the yams, maize and domesticated animals including palm oil they used to survive they got from us. They have no single developed industry with the exception of salt production and fishing.

Ijaw didn't get any wealth from slave trade because none of the trade was done through them.

Major Ports used during slave trade was Warri (Itsekiri), Badagry (Ijebu/Awori), Bonny (Igbo). Ijaw was actually insignificant during the slave trade. What we have here is the case of unchallenged history over writing or theft.

Had it been that someone challenged Alagoa when he made those statements like the way Greece challenged Former Yugoslav Macedonia when they tried to steal the history of Hellenic Greek Macedonia, we won't be doing this today.

But I don't blame our people that much because when Alagoa did it (1971), they were just trying to pick up their lives from the uncivil Genocidal attempt on them.

It is funny how indigenes of a town went from fully identifying as Igbo without any skirmish to having identity crisis after the war. Indigenes of Bonny were in Eastern region parliament and they never had issues with their identity until a man from Nembe called Alagoa rewrote their history for them. If there were any doubt in their identity prior to the war, Isaac Adaka Boro would have included them in the Niger-Delta Republic he declared, a Republic made up of Ijaw and those he considered related people like Atissa-Epie and Brass. He never included Bonny, Okirika and Kalabari then because their identity was not in doubt.
His map was what is today most of Bayelsa and a very small part of Delta

Ekealterego:
You don't even need to go into long argument. The document never said Okoloama. it read, "Okoloma".
Same Okoloma is Ndoki till today.

Samuel Crowther clearly wrote Okoloma, he did not write "Okoloama".

So, since the argument is based on the cut excerpt he is hanging on, let us go by that Okoloma name.

This is Okoloma in Ndoki.

He just can't prove anything without sounding Igbo.
Using Igbo words to prove that an Igbo town is Ijaw is very funny.
Alabo7978, the Ogogoro enter you well well

Ebi2233:
Kaiama Bayelsa Ijaw.
Asarama Andoni Rivers Ijaw
Amadaka Obolo Akwa-Ibom Ijaw
OkpoAma Nembe Bayelsa Ijaw

Kilibiama Ibani Rivers Ijaw
Oloama Ibani Rivers ijaw
AparAma Arogbo Ondo Ijaw
Ofunama Egbema Edo Ijaw
OpuAma Delta Ijaw
ObuAma Kalabari Rivers Ijaw.
AbuloAma Wakirike Rivers Ijaw
Mbiama Engenni Rivers Ijaw
AgudAma Epie Bayelsa Ijaw
AgudAma Ekpetiama Bayelsa Ijaw

And so many others too numerous to mention.

And these places mean
Settlement of Kaia
Settlement of Asar
Settlement of Daka
Settlement of Okpo

Settlement of Kilibi
Settlement of Olo
Settlement of Apar
Settlement of Ofun
Settlement of Obu
Settlement of Opu
Settlement of Abulo
Settlement of Mbia
Settlement of Agud
And Settlement of Ekpeti right?

You now realise that you should have just avoided the question.
It was a trap and you fell into it.

Alabo7978:
From your logic, okoloama should be ama-okolo, but it is not.
Ama means settlement in many ijaw land, or place.
I ask you, what would you say about this screenshots??
Will you say pepple, crowther and the entire BRITANNICA are high on ogogoro and that you are the right one ??

If "Ama" means settlement in Ijaw then there should be another Ijaw town or community with the name. Especially one that is not in contestion with another nation.

Let me help you understand. You know the word "by?" it is old Norse meaning Village/settlement and anywhere the Vikings raided and were later incorporated, they use it to rename the place like "Grimsby" in England.

This is similar to the Igbo word "ama" meaning settlement like Norse "by". So if you are saying that the Igbo word "ama" have now changed to Ijaw because we are on Nairaland and you want to claim the Igbo town of Ubani, then tell me another Ijaw village with that suffix "ama".

In Igbo we have Ama-Igbo, Ama-Enyi all meaning "quarters/settlement" of what they describe which is "Igbo" and "Enyi" (Elephant) etc.
So give me another instance/village were "ama" is used to refer to settlement in Ijaw.

Alabo7978:
Ok, these aren't Wikipedia, what can we say of this??

Did you miss the part where I said that brittanica is a tertiary source?

OK let me help you understand better, that article on Britannica is a compilation of Ijaw propaganda, which Alagoa's unreviewed/unchallenged work is the main reference point.

Do you get it now? Alagoa's work was like the claiming of abandoned property after the war but unlike others that claimed material property, he claimed and bastardised a part of Igbo people's history for Ijaw gain.