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MuttleyLaff:
Blabbermouth did God know before hand that Pharaoh will or will not make choice(s) not to let the Israelites free to go worship Him, hmm?

God: I will harden pharaoh's heart and he will not let you go.
God orchestrated it!

shadeyinka:
Can you see that it is you who is prone to misunderstanding simple English.


Compare the two highlights. I said Gods knowledge your bias read is as Gods Foreknowledge!

There is nothing like "Future"!

shadeyinka:
If you had truthfully answered this post of mine, well not be going round in a circle

You said time is the measure of interval between two events... So where am I travelling to?
Time is abstract, I don't know how you want me to fit that to real events... The best you can call that machine is "future machine".
Again sir, there is nothing like future! If I enter a time travel machine, I will only see illusions not some nonexistent future.
Please sir, it's like telling me to assume God does not exist. I keep ringing it I'm your ears, future does not exist!

ShadeYinka read this again.. Perhaps the way I engaged you before might have vexed you, I'm sorry. Now read with the mindset of learning something new.

IS GOD ACTUALLY OMNISCIENT?

Just as the case with His omnipotent ability, the omniscient ability of God is also confined by the NATURE OF WHO HE IS. God is light, He is Life, and He is Existence Himself, therefore darkness, death and nonexistence cannot be found in him.

If God were to sneak peek into the Knowledge of everything (I'm using JW's rendition here), including things that were, things that are, and the Future, there are things God will never see!

God is omniscient but He has no account of anyone that can Kill Him!

God is omniscient but He has no account for who His creator His!

God is omniscient but He has no account of the plausibility of anyone greater that him!

Hey beloved, don't get me wrong! I'm not saying God was created or God can be killed by somebody. I want you to be enlightened that God has no account of some nonsensical information like;

1. His creator

2. His Nemesis

3. His superior

Do you know why? Because THEY DON'T EXIST!

A being that created God, A being that can kill God, A being that can be superior to God DOES NOT EXIST! Consequently, God has no account of information about them.



Here is the Key Point

God has no account of things that DO NOT EXIST or Information that Does not Exist!

I've heard many dicey(or say, tricky) Atheistic Questions like

1. If God is omniscient, does He know who created Him?

2. If God is omniscient, does He know who can Kill Him?

God is omniscient but His omniscience is of EVERY EXISTING THINGS OR INFORMATION!

God's Omniscience does not stretch to Non-existent things as His nature is EXISTENCE itself!

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Now Let me answer the Question; DOES GOD KNOW THE FUTURE?

Until God says "Be!", it is impossible for anything to call itself into existence. Until God says " Let there be light!", it is impossible for light to call itself into existence. For we know that God is one, and there is none like him. Until God says "Let this happen!", it is impossible for it to happen. Until God declares an End, it is impossible for an End to exist by itself

However....

God in His omniscient power (in the confines of his nature) created beings with active forces and will, yea, Angels, Humans, and other spiritual beings he created them. God gave them free will and made it such that the free will of each person gives him/her an ability to declare His End. Howbeit, God is the prime Declarer.

Like they say - "Man proposes, God disposes"

Specifically, there are just 2 being capable of declaring your end. Yea, just two being that can determine your future; 1. God 2. You

For we know who God is, and what we know is true, therein lies our confidence that God (in most cases) does not/will not declare your end.

Since God has not/does not/ will not declare your future, YOUR FUTURE DOES NOT EXIST!

Now, you might be quick to ask this question;

Since I declare my END myself, can't God know where I will choose for myself before I choose?

Answer: Until you CHOOSE, where you will END is undefined. Before you chose, your end doesn't exist and like we've illustrated, God (whether by foreknowledge or absolute omniscience) have no account of Non-existent things.

Maximus69 was right when he said "God does not know If I will repent or not". However, I want him to enlighten him a notch that God does not know because " my end does not exist until I choose"

Remember, God has no account of nonexistent things. Yea, God has no account of where you will end up. Why? It does not exist!

shadeyinka:
As if what we have said is that God's knowledge is NOT absolute but a mere Foreknowledge.

Gods knowledge is absolute simply means that He knows the past, present and future. Why?
God is omnipresent even in Time!

You see, I knew you did not understand my write up. God knowing the past is not foreknowledge, God knowing the present is not foreknowledge, God knowing the future IS foreknowledge. Then I used Isaiah 46:10 and WHO GOD IS to prove that there is nothing like "future"! Since there is no future, there is no foreknowledge.

shadeyinka:
No sir it isn't.

If God designed Satan to end up being evil, is it just for God to judge Satan in Hell?

Do me a favor, highlight where i said so.

shadeyinka:
Time isn't a POINT. Time is the measure of interval between two events.
You are doing your best to equate Foreknowledge with Predestination BUT they are different things.

There is nothing like "Fore - anything"... God's knowledge is " absolute knowledge" not "foreknowledge".

The Future isn't static nor cast in stone. The future is dynamic and depends entirely of what we have DONE and what we are DOING now!
God knows the future because he is omnipresent even in TIME.

"The future isn't static nor cast in stone" - that's exactly what I proved.
It's your train of thought that paints the future as rigid, unchangeable and foredetermined.

shadeyinka:
Sorry. State your point here if it is valid. Don't forget that you refused to answer some of my questions that you may continue in your...

My explanation was sufficient and it covers every possible question you can ask. However, please resend them let's level it.

shadeyinka:
If you had not fixed God with the limitations of men, you would not have this problem.
Your train of thought make God both the Origin of EVIL and the JUDGE. But God is JUST!

If God can be Omnipresent (fully present everywhere in space) how come it is impossible for God to be Omnipresent in time?

Seriously?!... My explanation was consistent with God being Just. My explanation was consistent with God being who he is. Damn! You are reading with bias.

shadeyinka:
1. God created Lucifer knowing that he would fall: But He went ahead knowing that the end result will produce "sons of God"! However, Lucifer's fall will be of his own choice and volition
Ezek 28:15:
"You were perfect in your ways from the day that you were created, till iniquity was found in you."

That is why even for the believers
Rom 8:28:
"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose."

You've Just crossed the line! You've just made God unjust..Is that what the scripture means to you? Oh God, please open His eyes that He may see what I so desire him see.

2. God planted the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the garden knowing that Adam and Eve will take of it and it will result in sin, death and evil in the world because God also know that within the chaos will emerge "sons of God" who with their free will and volition will love God and His Lordship and so will qualify for Adoption.

Imagine God sending Lucifer to eternal torment when he already foreknew what he will become?
If you were Lucifer, I'm sure you will cry and say - "Lord! Why did you create me?" "How did I choose death for myself before you created me?"... Don't you get it? There is no basis for judgement if this is the case.

Otherwise, according to what you have believed
1. Either God made a mistake to create Lucifer:
Unfortunately, wisdom require that God exterminate Lucifer and not allow such evil to SPREAD

Mistake bawo Didn't you hear God claim he made him perfect. Is God's definition of perfection now a time frame something?

OR
God created Lucifer to be perfectly obedient to God for both good and evil and by DESIGN, Lucifer is just fulfilling the will of God.
Unfortunately, this will make God evil for judging Lucifer in the Lake of Fire (after doing Gods will)

Ha ha! Did I not explain that Lucifer invented death himself? It's like you don't even understand 10% of what I'm saying.

Now, please answer this:
The sons of God saw the daughters of men as beautiful and married them to produce giants called Nephillims.
Gen 6:2:
"That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."

Did God Foreordained this?

Did I not tell you that Angels can orchestrate an end for themselves?
Did I not explain?!
Sir, take a break... Come back, start from the first post of page 8 and read again.

Blabbermouth:
Sir, you are using "foreknowledge" because you think some "script-like Future" Exist... No sir, it doesn't!
To accomodate you though, take this as my stance...
Whatever God foreknows, He has declared
Whatever Does not exist, God does not foreknow.
A script-like future does not exist, God has no account or foreknowledge whatsoever about it.
Let me pan out that whenever we say God is not constrained by time, it doesn't mean He can forward or Backward, no! Time is not linear! Time is not a loop! In God's reality, everything is NOW! No later, no tomorrow, no, no, no! Time is a point!
99.95% of believers believe in some "Future" yet no single person lives as if some kind of future exist somewhere, yea, even God!

ShadeYinka, the scripture says "God who speaks to things that are yet not as though they are"... Even if Christ was crucified thousands of years later, to God Christ was slain before the foundation of the world. To God, He already has sons and children birthed through Christ since the foundation of the world. When God said to Abraham, " I will bless you" that's God coming down to Abraham's level to make him grasp. In God's reality, Abraham has already been blessed by Him.
God says I am the Beginning and the Ending - yea, the beginning of a point is the point and the ending of a point is the same point.
Sir, please try to understand that God does not see time as a line or as a loop, time is a point.
Even in our realm, time is a point! You can't recover the past, it's nothing but a memory now and you can't access the future, it doesn't exist yet!
Only then will you know that "foreknowledge " is just humans using English to shadow box.
Only then will you be able to understand that truth that was unravelled.

shadeyinka:
Unfortunately, you are not following the rules you created. Did you acknowledge any explanation on the Foreknowledge of God?
Any question that will clarify you ignored. No!, That's not how it is done

Sir, you are using "foreknowledge" because you think some "script-like Future" Exist... No sir, it doesn't!
To accomodate you though, take this as my stance...
Whatever God foreknows, He has declared
Whatever Does not exist, God does not foreknow.
A script-like future does not exist, God has no account or foreknowledge whatsoever about it.
Let me pan out that whenever we say God is not constrained by time, it doesn't mean He can forward or Backward, no! Time is not linear! Time is not a loop! In God's reality, everything is NOW! No later, no tomorrow, no, no, no! Time is a point!
99.95% of believers believe in some "Future" yet no single person lives as if some kind of future exist somewhere, yea, even God!

shadeyinka:
Please state your position clearly.

What you've simply said all along was that God's omniscience stems from the fact that he predestines things to be (hence He knows).

My position is that God's omniscience is a function of His FOREKNOWLEDGE with is independent of PREDESTINATION.

Read from page 8 of the thread, I've explained everything.
ShadeYinka sir, there is nothing like "Future" aside what God has declared!

haddeylium:
....

Your brothers were using the corona stuff as a proof. Smiles... That was so, so, so, so, funny!
What do you think? That some believers didn't see what was coming in part? If we were united, a little here and a little there, all stitched together would have made a difference.
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"Paul said"... Seriously?! Is this Paul's words against God's words? Smh....
I knew that you won't be childish enough to see things from the truth perspective, and we both know what's responsible.
Blabbermouth: Are we in the last days?
Haddeylium: Yes! Even the bible claimed so
God: In the LAST DAYS, I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh and they shall prophesy, dream dreams and see vision.
Paul: Prophecy shall cease ONE DAY (He never said in the last days)..
JW: Prophecy, Dreams, Visions and all has ceased even if God said they will be rampant in the last days.
That's the truth, a two-edged sharp sword that cuts through every message, doctrine and belief. Spliiting lies from truth and darkness from Light.
Shalom!

Blabbermouth:
IS GOD ACTUALLY OMNISCIENT?
......
Specifically, there are just 2 being capable of declaring your end. Yea, just two being that can determine your future; 1. God 2. You
For we know who God is, and what we know is true, therein lies our confidence that God (in most cases) does not/will not declare your end.
Since God has not/does not/ will not declare your future, YOUR FUTURE DOES NOT EXIST!
Now, you might be quick to ask this question;
Since I declare my END myself, can't God know where I will choose for myself before I choose?
Answer: Until you CHOOSE, where you will END is undefined. Before you chose, your end doesn't exist and like we've illustrated, God (whether by foreknowledge or absolute omniscience) have no account of Non-existent things.
Maximus69 was right when he said "God does not know If I will repent or not". However, I want him to enlighten him a notch that God does not know because " my end does not exist until I choose"
Remember, God has no account of nonexistent things. Yea, God has no account of where you will end up. Why? It does not exist!

Anyone that understands it perfectly will automatically see the answer to bugging questions like these:
1. Why Did God create Lucifer knowing He will fall?
2. Why Did God put Adam and eve in Eden foreknowing that they will disobey?
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Let me help out a bit...
According to the Bible, God created Lucifer "perfect". According to God's definition of perfection, perfection is not subjected to a time frame. If God said Lucifer was perfect, then that means He didn't create Lucifer foreknowing that Lucifer will fall. No! God didn't declare that! A non-existent Lucifer did not declare a fall for himself!
That " Lucifer will fall" was a nonexistent account, there is no future! Lucifer himself declared his fall, gave sin a definition, and invented the domain of death when he said "I will"...
God did not create Lucifer foreknowing he will fall!
You should be able to answer Adam's own, it's much simpler.
(ShadeYinka, MuttleyLaff, Maximus69)

I would have/should have unravelled something about freewill to show us that free will is not totally "free". Yea, free will is alterable, confined and also dependent on domain. But then, I won't be able to digress that far.

shadeyinka:
Do you mean that God has Foreordained some people to be evil?

No! Do read my account on God's omniscient ability and see the missing piece.

Blabbermouth:
IS GOD ACTUALLY OMNISCIENT?
Just as the case with His omnipotent ability, the omniscient ability of God is also confined by the NATURE OF WHO HE IS. God is light, He is Life, and He is Existence Himself, therefore darkness, death and nonexistence cannot be found in him.
If God were to sneak peek into the Knowledge of everything (I'm using JW's rendition here), including things that were, things that are, and the Future, there are things God will never see!
God is omniscient but He has no account of anyone that can Kill Him!
God is omniscient but He has no account for who His creator His!
God is omniscient but He has no account of the plausibility of anyone greater that him!
Hey beloved, don't get me wrong! I'm not saying God was created or God can be killed by somebody. I want you to be enlightened that God has no account of some nonsensical information like;
1. His creator
2. His Nemesis
3. His superior
Do you know why? Because THEY DON'T EXIST!
A being that created God, A being that can kill God, A being that can be superior to God DOES NOT EXIST! Consequently, God has no account of information about them.

Here is the Key Point
God has no account of things that DO NOT EXIST or Information that Does not Exist!
I've heard many dicey(or say, tricky) Atheistic Questions like
1. If God is omniscient, does He know who created Him?
2. If God is omniscient, does He know who can Kill Him?
God is omniscient but His omniscience is of EVERY EXISTING THINGS OR INFORMATION!
God's Omniscience does not stretch to Non-existent things as His nature is EXISTENCE itself!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Now Let me answer the Question; DOES GOD KNOW THE FUTURE?
Until God says "Be!", it is impossible for anything to call itself into existence. Until God says " Let there be light!", it is impossible for light to call itself into existence. For we know that God is one, and there is none like him. Until God says "Let this happen!", it is impossible for it to happen. Until God declares an End, it is impossible for an End to exist by itself
However....
God in His omniscient power (in the confines of his nature) created beings with active forces and will, yea, Angels, Humans, and other spiritual beings he created them. God gave them free will and made it such that the free will of each person gives him/her an ability to declare His End. Howbeit, God is the prime Declarer.
Like they say - "Man proposes, God disposes"
Specifically, there are just 2 being capable of declaring your end. Yea, just two being that can determine your future; 1. God 2. You
For we know who God is, and what we know is true, therein lies our confidence that God (in most cases) does not/will not declare your end.
Since God has not/does not/ will not declare your future, YOUR FUTURE DOES NOT EXIST!
Now, you might be quick to ask this question;
Since I declare my END myself, can't God know where I will choose for myself before I choose?
Answer: Until you CHOOSE, where you will END is undefined. Before you chose, your end doesn't exist and like we've illustrated, God (whether by foreknowledge or absolute omniscience) have no account of Non-existent things.
Maximus69 was right when he said "God does not know If I will repent or not". However, I want him to enlighten him a notch that God does not know because " my end does not exist until I choose"
Remember, God has no account of nonexistent things. Yea, God has no account of where you will end up. Why? It does not exist!

This is the light of the matter:
There is nothing like "Future"! It doesn't exist!
The only events that are certain to happen are those that have been declared, predetermined and Orchestrated by God, any other thing else you term with the word "future" are virtual and not real.
ShadeYinka sir, God does not predetermine anyone one for hell. Also, Your end is undefined and nonexistent until you CHOOSE! That is the principal reason why you are living, why you were created, and why you have a lifespan on earth.
God is asking you - "Are you in or are you out? Choose!"
MuttleyLaff, this might be hard to understand but trust me, with time you will come to settle with it. If you mean God has an absolute foreknowledge of things He himself determined, then you are 100% right. If you mean God's absolute foreknowledge covers nonexistent things like "where you will end up", then that's wrong.
Maximus69 and DappaD, fortunately Jehovah doesn't use selective foreknowledge. He knows everything that exist and every minute info in the world. However, He has no account of " where you will end up " because that will only be made existent when you CHOOSE!
ShadeYinka, a time travel nonsense is impossible! You will only be able to time travel into what God has declared to happen, and we both know Jehovah will not subject that privilege to physical means.

IS GOD ACTUALLY OMNISCIENT?
Just as the case with His omnipotent ability, the omniscient ability of God is also confined by the NATURE OF WHO HE IS. God is light, He is Life, and He is Existence Himself, therefore darkness, death and nonexistence cannot be found in him.
If God were to sneak peek into the Knowledge of everything (I'm using JW's rendition here), including things that were, things that are, and the Future, there are things God will never see!
God is omniscient but He has no account of anyone that can Kill Him!
God is omniscient but He has no account for who His creator His!
God is omniscient but He has no account of the plausibility of anyone greater that him!
Hey beloved, don't get me wrong! I'm not saying God was created or God can be killed by somebody. I want you to be enlightened that God has no account of some nonsensical information like;
1. His creator
2. His Nemesis
3. His superior
Do you know why? Because THEY DON'T EXIST!
A being that created God, A being that can kill God, A being that can be superior to God DOES NOT EXIST! Consequently, God has no account of information about them.

Here is the Key Point
God has no account of things that DO NOT EXIST or Information that Does not Exist!
I've heard many dicey(or say, tricky) Atheistic Questions like
1. If God is omniscient, does He know who created Him?
2. If God is omniscient, does He know who can Kill Him?
God is omniscient but His omniscience is of EVERY EXISTING THINGS OR INFORMATION!
God's Omniscience does not stretch to Non-existent things as His nature is EXISTENCE itself!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Now Let me answer the Question; DOES GOD KNOW THE FUTURE?
Until God says "Be!", it is impossible for anything to call itself into existence. Until God says " Let there be light!", it is impossible for light to call itself into existence. For we know that God is one, and there is none like him. Until God says "Let this happen!", it is impossible for it to happen. Until God declares an End, it is impossible for an End to exist by itself
However....
God in His omniscient power (in the confines of his nature) created beings with active forces and will, yea, Angels, Humans, and other spiritual beings he created them. God gave them free will and made it such that the free will of each person gives him/her an ability to declare His End. Howbeit, God is the prime Declarer.
Like they say - "Man proposes, God disposes"
Specifically, there are just 2 being capable of declaring your end. Yea, just two being that can determine your future; 1. God 2. You
For we know who God is, and what we know is true, therein lies our confidence that God (in most cases) does not/will not declare your end.
Since God has not/does not/ will not declare your future, YOUR FUTURE DOES NOT EXIST!
Now, you might be quick to ask this question;
Since I declare my END myself, can't God know where I will choose for myself before I choose?
Answer: Until you CHOOSE, where you will END is undefined. Before you chose, your end doesn't exist and like we've illustrated, God (whether by foreknowledge or absolute omniscience) have no account of Non-existent things.
Maximus69 was right when he said "God does not know If I will repent or not". However, I want him to enlighten him a notch that God does not know because " my end does not exist until I choose"
Remember, God has no account of nonexistent things. Yea, God has no account of where you will end up. Why? It does not exist!

(ShadeYinka, MuttleyLaff, Maximus69)

CONTINUED...
With respect to the context of Isaiah 46:10
Foreknowledge is Knowing what will happen before it happens.
Declaring is predeterming and orchestrating events that will go on to constitute things that will happen.

Concerning the END, God said He DECLARES not FOREKNOWS!
Knowing this, let us go on to unravel something about the omniscience of God and Knowledge of the future.
(ShadeYinka, MuttleyLaff, Maximus69, DappaD)

R- Real Estate
E- Entertainment
N- Networking
T- Technology
A - Agriculture
L- Land
S- Sport/Stocking/solving problems
Completed!

DappaD:
I noticed you’re acting like a cunning snake.
Talmabout ‘This is not to ridicule you or anyone that belongs to JW’
Then go on right out to label the organization he belongs to a ‘sect’
I just see that as a derogatory statement.

I'm very sorry sir.
My intention was perfectly pure though.

Janosky:
All of una pastorpreneurs and gods of men dey fulfill Joel 2:32 (Acts2:17), yet none of them see covid19 wey expose "Church virus"!

Why will they see it? Sect A is busy talking about tithes and paid not attention. Sect B is busy expanding and building bigger buildings and paid not attention. Sect C is busy claiming they are the one true way and paid no attention. Until we take denominations away, we will not radiate that light Christ so desires us to.

My Lord tore down the temple at Jerusalem and raised a new and perfect one. Peter, Paul, Apollos and many were very violent against people claiming they belong to so so so and so. Sadly, some people with good intention derailed and changed the system when they started building fancy halls and calling it the "house of God"... No sir, My God's house is not some wooden blocks and some wood building headed and controlled by a mere man. Let everyone be reconciled to the kingdom and let Christ be King.

haddeylium:
You have a contrary opinion about what the scripture says about last days?

Haddey my beloved, look at what Prophet Joel and Apostle Peter Said concerning the Last Days...
Act 2:17
"It shall come to pass in the last days, I will Pour out my spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:"
Thus saith the LORD.
JW have contradicted God's promise here by claiming that the marvellous signs and all died along with the first/early Christians.
No, no, no! No matter how any JW member try to twist it, they are inconsistent with the word of God here.
As long as the LAST DAYS is on, Christians are meant to prophesy, dream dreams, see vision and all...
Do you know why you've not captured this in your Christian experience? I do. It's because you belong to a sect that does not believe in such, and thus, you never enjoyed that Supernatural dimension of God.
PS: This is not to ridicule you or anyone that belongs to JW. It's just a way of pointing out the kind of unfulfillments that is inevitable if everyone continues to pledge allegiance to a sect.

To be continued...

Everyone is thinking too far because of the unbias explanation of Isaiah 46:10 , but we are not there still. Before we proceed, let me digress and establish something very important about Isaiah 46:10. Do you know that man can do something similar to What God does in Isaiah 46:10? Yeah, even the angels can do it, in fact, any being with that thing called free will can do such, it's part of the free will package. Howbeit, in an infinitely smaller scale to God's own.
Check this out...

Do this simple practical...

Look at the time now (it's about 2:10pm), now tell someone in the room that the following would have happened about 2:15pm

1. Your phone will be switched off

2. You will be in the other room

3. You won't be putting on any shirt

Tell the person to check the time and confirm that everything happened 5 minute later just as you said 5 minute ago.

(While the person is doing the countdown, switch off your phone, off your shirt and move to another room)

So, by 2:15pm, everything should be just as you said 5 minutes ago.

What did you just do?

Is that you knowing the future?

No! Voila, you just declared what will happen in 2:15pm i.e. The End [as long as this exercise is concerned] from 2:10pm I.e. The beginning (as long as this exercise is concerned).

shadeyinka:
Do you mean that God has Foreordained some people to be evil?

Relax sir, we will get there.

shadeyinka:
Isaiah 46:10
"Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:"

The true picture is more like: Using a time machine shadeyinka and Blabbermouth watched the match 3 days before it was played. Hence from the beginning well before the match was to start. We can be accurate in relating the match to Muttley.

Only with this will it not negate the quality of the righteousness of God

If you understand it better like this, no problem. If I used a time machine and I went to the end of the match, then I know the match result FROM THE END, not FROM THE BEGINNING.
However, God said - Declaring the end from the Beginning!

shadeyinka:
No your questions were not consistent with God's word nor even logical

It seems you are getting emotional sir. For;
1. What I asked you to verify was not a question
2. You've been imposing what I haven't claimed to be mine...
All in all though, you will know where I stand soon.

Isaiah 46:10
"Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:"
Hey, hey, hey beloved, there is something we are not seeing clearly here. Read that scripture again but this time, in-between the lines and see where God used the word "DECLARE"... Also, take note of where God is declaring the end from. Is God declaring the end from the beginning or is he declaring the end from the end?
God himself said- Declaring the end from the BEGINNING!
There is a big difference in
I. Declaring the end from the beginning
II. Declaring the end from the end
This might not seem so important for now but it soon will be. Permit me Sir MuttleyLaff to use your illustration of a football match.
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If I and ShadeYinka watched a live closed final match of Sevilla and Inter Milan (Note: A football match begins at time 0:00 and stops officially at 90:00), and by 90 minutes, Sevilla won Inter-milan 3 goals to 2.
While cruising today, Sir MuttleyLaff came and switched the channel to supersport and watched the same final match we have watched already a day before. Shade then said to Muttley, "Hey bobo, Sevilla will win this match and lift the cup. In fact, the scores will be 3-2"... Voila, Sevilla won and magically (to sir Muttley) the scores ended 3-2.
Over here, Shade just declared the end of the match. However, where is Shade declaring(this is actually foreknowledge, not declaration though) it from? Is it from the beginning or from the end?
No! Shade was not declaring the end from the beginning, He was declaring the end from THE END!
Shade Has gotten to the 90:00 of the match and that was why his foreknowledge was accurate!
But God in this verse is saying, Hey, Hey, Hey, I will DECLARE what will happen at 90:00 minute right from 0:00 minute!
Declaring the end from the beginning is not watching a live match till the end and knowing what will happen at the end because you've watched or sneak-peeked till the end. No! It is actually starting from 0:00 (with no prior information whatsoever) and telling the person next to you that the score will (in fact, it MUST) be 3-2 by 90:00 minutes
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Again, I don't want to be too forward, so let me ask; What is the difference between DECLARING and FOREKNOWING?

Before we explore omniscience, let me quickly put something aright... Let's see Isaiah 46:10.