jesusjnr:
I can't speak of you if you are a sinner and the same as both of them, but I can speak of myself and say that am not in the category of sinners but that of the righteous.

All the true disciples of Jesus were in the category of the righteous.

John the baptist was in the category of the righteous.

Mary, Joseph, Elisabeth, Zachariah, Elijah, Moses, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, Job, Noah, Abraham, Abel, David, etc., were in the same category of the righteous.

You would have heard God tell Abraham that if there were ten righteous men in the land of Sodom and Gomorrah that He would not destroy it.

God Himself said to Noah, that He had found Him righteous in his generation, that's why He spared Noah's life.

Need I speak of God proudly recommending righteous Job to Satan because of his righteousness?

Righteousness is not an imaginary thing, but a function of works, so any ideas that works is not a requirement to activate the fullness of the presence of God is a lie from the deepest part of hell, because grace without works has never existed or lived before, needless say dead.

Hmm, let's take stock of the works of some of the men you mentioned.

Abraham: He is called father of faith and not of works. left to me, Abraham won't be righteous because he lied to save his neck. He doubted God because if he didn't he wouldn't have slept with his wife's maid( Hagar), after God has promised him a son. He would've refused Sarah's offer. Secondly, Abraham received a report that he was righteous when he believed God, not because of his good works which was a by product of grace at work in him.

Verdict- Righteous by grace!

David: Nicknamed as a man after God's own heart. David stole someone's wife and added murder to it. David disobeyed God by counting the people after the express command of God not to. You will do well to take David out of your list because he was a man who prayed like this, "have mercy on me according to your loving kindness."

David eyes was always on God's unfailing love and mercy, and not on what he himself did right or wrong.

Verdict-Righteous by grace!

Moses: Moses was a murderer. He was hot tempered. Moses disobeyed God as well. he struck Christ (the Rock) when he was suppose to speak to it.

Verdict- Righteous by grace!

Job: Job was a fear monger who sacrifice daily thinking that either he or his sons might have sinned against God. I see no difference between Job and the Pharisee Jesus talked about. When calamity struck him, he was busy blowing his trumpet. How he has not look at a woman lustfully and how he helps the poor and so on and on.

Verdict- Righteous by grace!

budaatum:

Why does your scripture sound like it's saying, "let your living wrong darken others, that they may see your wrong living and glorify........"

Can one live wrong and God be present in one? I wonder what one would be glorifying.

Living right justifies us before men, but not before God. Like I said living right is the will of God for us. In truth, the scripture says, "we are created in Christ for good works." The good work itself don't justify us, neither do they grant us special status before God. We have that special status before through grace ( Jesus). Right living is the by product of grace in us.

God is present in us even if we are living wrong. He is in us patiently believing that we will walk the right path He has set before us.

jesusjnr2:
The instance you mentioned here involved two sinners, not two righteous men, or two disciples, but two sinners for the pharisee was a sinner and the other man was a sinner.

You should know better about the reputation of the Pharisees to Jesus, they were called hypocrites, children of the devil, blind guides, thieves, friends of mammon etc.

So there's no way you would use the pharisees who were sinners as a basis to illustrate those of the church who are supposed to have produced good fruits of the Word of God(works) that had been sown into their hearts, even as those who Jesus founded the most powerful church ever upon, of who He said had "kept the Word of God".

There's no shortcut around it my brother, there's no substitute for the works of obeying the Word of God, so if this church wants to likewise even as the fullness of God's presence and power as it was in that church, they must do same, otherwise na only fullness of dead men's bones as it presently is oh!

I mean think about it, if a Peter was here in nairaland today, do you think that there would be a single atheist here today?

Works bro, works and nothing but works, for the grace of God had been made available to all, but it's obedience of God's word(works) that distinguishes those who partake of it, and those who don't.

Oh, what differentiate me and you between the two men Jesus mentioned in the Bible? what made them sinners, but we righteous? The scripture says all have sinned (fell short from the holy standard of God) and are justified freely through the grace and mercy of God, that is for those who believe and trust solely in his grace and goodness.

Jesus made us know that there are two category of people in the world with that story he told.

Category 1: Those who seek to be justified by their deeds, though God is not against our good deeds but he is against we seeking to be justified by it. Our justification is of Him. Hallelujah!! I have a friend who thinks that he is entitled for divine protection because he tithes. He normally says, "God cannot afford to lose me because I am a tither."

Category 2: Those who seek justification through the loving kindness of God and his grace. This category's heart is fixed upon the mercy and goodness of God, though they live right, but they don't boast about it. They know that they have already been justified by the grace of God. They know that it is God who is working in them but to will and to do that which is pleasing to Him. They speak more about the grace and mercy of God and less of their works.

They know that grace is the Vine that bores the fruits (works). Thanks be to God that I belong to this blessed category being transformed by the unfailing grace of God.

jesusjnr:
This is a lie from the deepest part of hell!

The time of the fullness of God's presence was a time of the most works, best behavior and attitude of those of the church, and that's why this church is now full of dead men's bones, instead of God's presence.

For grace without works is dead!

p.s My error, for something that never existed or lived cannot be dead!

Jesus told a story about two men who went into the temple to pray ( Luke 18:10-14).

The Pharisee was busy blowing his trumpet about how he fasted, tithed and so on. He was counting on his nice and good behavior to justify him before God. While the other man counted and trusted in the unfailing mercy of God. Who did Jesus said was justified before God? Is it the man who trusted in his works? No, it is the man who trusted in the everlasting mercy and goodness of God.

The grace and mercy of God teaches us to live right, but our living right and nice behavior is not the reason for God's presence and power in our life.

jesusjnr:
That's what distinguishes atheists as yourself from the likes of hardmirror, because he's not just using atheism as an excuse to be rebellious against God, and that's why he's hot cake, even just as Michelle was, because even as atheists they yet have qualities in them that makes God to make extra effort to bring them back to himself.

Not people as yourself who no get anything wey go attract God to them, wey if dem dey wait for God to come for them, they go dey there die for where dem dey talk say God no exist.

No go learn how to care and be concerned for the welfare of your fellow humans, and have the strong desire to help them as hardmirror does.

Otherwise you go be a Satan zombie till fire start to burn that your mouth.

Sincerely, you crack me up with your write up. I have been laughing out loud all along.

Your reasoning is amazing!

HardMirror:
i have told you time and time again. All you need is give this god your 100% then you will see the lies

The more I read through your post the more I see the state of your heart, before you turn atheist. You where banking on your works, and not on his grace. You trusted in your nice behavior and attitude in exchange for God's attention and love.

No man who thinks this way will ever experience the fullness of his presence and power.

HardMirror:
dont mind them. I can boldly say it. I lived almost 2years without commitig a single sin. But i know they willargue cos they are allliving in sin. They think it is impossible to be righteous. Bloody liars

Now I know why your faith shipwrecked.

Truefaith:
Thanks to the person who posted this.

But the issue is a little deeper than the analysis presented here.

It is not African or Nigerian: it is human, world-wide.

One of the clearest tell-tale signs that a man is not born again is that he demands retribution on those that offend him.


The story in Matthew 18:21-35 makes this very plain.

For the benefit of those who are not familiar with the Bible here it is:




Until a man grasps the depth and gravity of the consequences of his own sins against God, he does not see the smallness of the sins of his fellowmen against him.



Everyone praying for the death or destruction of those that offend him HAS NOT KNOWN GOD


All so-called 'Churches' preaching such doctrines have no connections whatsoever to the Lord Jesus Christ.


https://www.thetruechristianfaith.com/2016/09/11/the-mountain-of-fire-and-miracles-the-sermon-from-the-serpent/

I absolutely agree with you on this. They don't know God, neither do they believe in him. Instead they have believe a lie that their so called enemy is strong enough to kill them. They are many in this thread, by their comments you shall know them.

MuttleyLaff:
bloodofthelamb, the point I was making with that James Bond phrase and similar, is that, pleasure doesn't necessarily have a need. God will not diminish or increase if God does or doesn't make Man. Pleasure is a phenomenon, independent of need or want. It is a will or desire to do or have something done. It is God's pleasure, to out of love create man, that is primary, every other thing is secondary and incidental.

Okay, I get you.

MuttleyLaff:
My name is Bond. James Bond. The pleasure is mine, please sit down Mr Bond.

bloodofthelamb, God is agape love, hence doesnt need to have a need to give this agape love because agape love intrinsically is Him and His nature

This is definitely what I am talking about. It was sounding as if God lacked pleasure and joy prior creation, and because of that He created us to fill in that gap.

Mr Bond ride on!

budaatum:

"Pleasure" is precisely what is derived from the fulfilment of a need.

Do you not understand English at all!

You are the one that is slow of understanding. The "bone of contention" here is, why did God created things? Did He creat because he needed to meet His needs that was lacking? As if he was lacking anything before He created. This is my stand and will always be, "the will of God for creating was born out of love, and not of any need nor lack in His part."

jiggaz:
Lord Jesus

Beautiful and annointed write up!

jiggaz:
Thank you Lord Jesus...

Beautiful and annointed write up!

MuttleyLaff:
Years ago whilst meditating on the words of God, I did ponder with a friend of mine about the relationship between pleasure and worship plus what their mutual relationship is, if there's any. The explanation, I came up with, was this:

When I go to the pub, out of pleasure, I might decide to buy a pint or get a glass of rouge to bottoms up with. Whilst nursing my drink, I am being worshipped by the drink, each time when downing or sipping it. The drink is devoted to giving me a feeling of pleasure, a feeling of enjoying drinking it inconjunction of being in the relaxed ambience surrounding it.

It is a similar thing with when I pleasurably buy an expensive oil paint canvas to put and place on the space above my fireplace mantelpiece. Now, the canvas, on my living room above my fireplace mantelpiece is devoted to giving a feeling of great aesthetic pleasure. The pint, glass of rouge or the oil paint canvas, in their peculiar individual and special ways, are exuding a form of love to me. Incidentally that is what worship is all about. When something, like the pint or red wine loves you, it worships you, it holds you in high regard, it thinks highly of you, it wants to serve you, it wouldnt want to upset your metabolism, it'll be gentle on you, not wanting you to puke or throw up, wants to nourish you. If it is the oil paint canvas, it too loves you, so worships you as well, lights up living room with its rich oil painting colors, decorates the expanse above the fireplace mantelpiece for you, giving the place, an air of designer chic etcetera

The truth is that, the moment the pint, glass of rouge or the oil paint canvas, stops freely and willing worshipping and honouring me and stops anymore from being wonderful, beautiful and/or decorative, from when I first got them, then judgement comes, as in, to either pour into the kitchen sink and down the drain, or end up in the kitchen waste bin or trash can

The poetic licence. I know, forgive it. Hope you saw the pleasure and worship correlate in it all.

Bro muttleyLaff, all things came to be by his will, not necessarily out of need, but out of love. By the way here is Revelation 4:11 in NKJV

"You are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power ; for you created all things, and by your will they exist and were created." Old king James made it seem as if God created out of need for derivation of pleasure. I new something was wrong somewhere, so I went searching and digging.

God was full of pleasure when he made all things, infact in his eternal pleasure he created all things that we might share in it.

budaatum:

You will not be good without a reason! It's just way too much work to do for nothing. And claiming "you are just being yourself" makes you sound as if you are just naturally good to me, like born to be good, which is unlikely. The truth more likely being that if you truly are as effortlessly good to me as you say you are, it would have taken you a lot of effort and practice and learning through the years to become so good. And to do so much work to be so good you must be fulfilling a need. And that need cannot be "no need".

I put it to you to consider that, in your, "just living", "just being myself", being "good to you", and being the "I am", you are fulfilling a need but might be unaware of the need you are fulfilling.

I am good, not that I am born to be good or learn how to be good. This is who I am! Remember, we are talking about God here and who He is.

God need not to have a need to be who He is. Who God is, is the basics for all He does. "For God so love the world, that he gave ( John 3:16)." The love of God is a precursor to all that he does now and forever.

You can simply say, "God was so full of love that he created things."

Toks2008:
After i heard the news of The Ethiopian airline Boeing 737 that crashed today killing over 150 people i felt compelled to drop this piece with a heavy heart and very deep sobriety..

Many people often wonder why GOD allows people to die through several ways when he has the power to avert the cause.

The bitter truth is every one of us must die at different times through different means regardless of the age. Whether by human error,gun,natural disasters, plane crash, sickness...WE ALL MUST LEAVE THIS EARTH.

It is quite unfortunate that the earth does not have infinite resources for limitless number of species so by default,people must die for earth's ecological balance to be sustained. Imagine you, your entire family right from the previous 4 generations living in one building without anyone leaving...now you can imagine how choked you all will be.

In like manner, for the earth to maintain its balance, every living species must at one time or the other leave for new ones to have space. So the bitter truth is that people must die and as people leave this earth, new people come in through child birth and this balance must continue regardless of your prayer to live long....IF GOD ANSWERS EVERYBODY'S PRAYER FOR LONG LIFE I GUESS THIS WORLD WILL BE SATURATED.

What GOD cares about is our souls and whilst we cry on earth when anyone dies, to GOD it is home coming cos this earth is just a temporary place for our souls.

Our souls–that invisible and eternal part of us–is the part that connects us with God. It’s what makes us different than all other life forms on the planet: every human has a soul. Your soul is the real you and that is what GOD really cares about and not your earthly body. That’s why Jesus asked, “Is anything worth more than your soul?”(Mark 8:37)

Yes its ok to pray and wish for long life but stop bothering your head about who dies and who lives or when and how you die....it can happen at anytime so start preparing your soul for where you want it to be for eternity.

May the souls of the dead R.I.P..Amen!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-47513508

Who told you God allows such? Didn't God said whatever you allow here on earth shall be allowed in heaven? Do you think He was joking when He said so?

johnydon22:
Yes, a need to express who you are.

No, I am just living. I am good to you, because that is who I am. I have no need to be good to you. I am just being myself to you.

I see no need here.

johnydon22:
He has a need to create then he literally has a need then.

Is it necessary that I must have a need to express who I am?

MuttleyLaff:
"Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power:
for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."
- Revelation 4:11
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Bro muttleylaff, how does pleasure and worship correlate? The truth is that we will freely and willing worship and honour Him when we realize how beautifully and wonderfully He made us in love.

Zither:


It depends on your definition of worship. One can worship God just by loving Him, by spending time talking with Him as Adam and Eve did in the Garden of Eden, by thanking Him for His deeds, etc... You can see that none of this is a sine qua non for His existence or soveriegnty or greatness...attrubutes connected to His omni-x nature.

If God really needed worship to exist, He wouldn't be eternal or ageless. Through science we know that the universe is over 10 billion years old while the human race is not more than two hundred thousand years old. If God needed the "oxygen" of worship to survive why did He not create the human race earlier? We don't even have any idea how much time had passed before He created the universe. That is a no-man's land for science or logic. It could be a 100 or 500 quadrillion years or more before He created the universe itself. What is certain is that His creation is a manifestation of His will which He put into effect at His pre-determined timeframe, and not more. Everything we see was called into existence at the fullness of His set time of His will, not in response to His supposed dependence on a need.

Yes, if you created a Ferrari it is because you needed it and you would be incapacitated without it. This is why it is a creation of need. Unlike man, God is not incapacitated in the absence of His creation. In the book of Jeremiah 32:27, God asks, "I am the LORD of all flesh. Is anything too hard for me?" If I cultivated a rose garden, is it because I need the rose flower? I do it because I love roses.

In the same fashion Man is a creation of God's love, not need. His love is an act of His will. Look at God's creation and acts as an expression, rather than as a means to an end then you will have begun the journey to know Him better.

Exactly bro, we can still view it this way: God does good because he is good, not because he needs to do good. Amen!

bloodofthelamb:



And who told you that God made you to worship Him? He made us to love us.

God created out of love. He made all things in love, goodness and kindness that he might share with them all that He is.

I worship and praise God out of love, and not out of duty. When men realize the heart of the Father flowing only with love, goodness and mercy for them, they will have no choice but to worship and praise Him for is great love.

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And who told you that God made you to worship Him? He made us to love us.

God created out of love. He made all things in love, goodness and kindness that he might share with them all that He is.

dingbang:
The significance of the ash is to remind us from dust we came, to dust we shall return.

I'm from above. Though I'm in the earth, but I am not of the earth. I am of God that is who I am in Christ.

Akin1212:


Lies!!!! /quote/
Your opinion base on spiritual ignorance.



Who? To be a who, means it's a person. Because the word who introduces a relative clause./quote/

Christ is a person, we derive our image from Him.



Always with you, how? Have you ever seen this 'who' who is always with you? And what has he done for you that he has not done for anyone else?/quote/

I see Him. He has done great things for me and for humanity. His presence alone is the greatest treasure I can have.



You can touch the earth, can you touch christ? Don't lose touch with reality please.

I touches Him everyday.

finalboss:
It comes down to the fact that the only real reason people believe in gods, is because a lot of other people believe in gods. It’s social proof - the ‘evidence’ of god is that a lot of people believe in god…or appear to believe in god.

In fact, a lot (probably all) Christians have moments of doubt. This is why communal worship is so crucial to all religions - surrounding yourself with hundreds of other people who all appear to have strong faith, strengthens your own faith in the face of those personal doubts.

Religious belief is reflected in the story of The story of The Emperor’s New Clothes . Everyone believed the emperor was wearing an amazing costume (when he was actually naked) because everyone else acted as if they believed he was wearing an amazing costume (they were all cheering and commenting on how amazing the costume was), even though each one individually had strong doubts that he was wearing anything. But nobody wanted to speak up because they feared ridicule. It was social proof in action - everyone believed because everyone else believed.
The atheist is like the little boy in the story, who pointed out that the emperor was actually naked. The little boy burst the bubble. Social proof was instantly destroyed.

Christians fear atheists because we are poking at their secret, silent doubts about god, and if we keep on doing it, these bubbles of faith will start to burst. Since Christianity is only maintained through social proof, once a critical mass of burst bubbles is reached, the entire ridiculous facade of Christianity, and eventually of all religions, will quickly come tumbling down.

This is a perfect example of cognitive dissonance. It is a piece of cake to debunk Christian & Muslim claims, but when you’ve been indoctrinated since childhood to believe in anti-scientific & immoral gibberish then you will spend the rest of your life fighting off anything that’s contrary to your religious doctrine.

First of all, I do not believe in God because another person believes in Him. I have past that stage long time ago by his grace.

like apostle Paul, I Know who I believe. He is always with me and will never forsake me. I boldly and confidently say, "Christ whom I believe in is more real to me than the earth itself." Hallelujah!!

Martinez39:
God gave people sound minds but could not give them sound bodies to make invulnerable to cancer, HIV, multiple sclerosis etc.

Not everybody is subject to all those disease you listed up there. Those who know their God and know themselves in Christ are not vulnerable to diseases of any kind.

frosbel2:
At the inception of the church , 2000 years ago, it took only 120 Christians from the upper room to take their gospel out to the known world which they then turned upside down for their Jesus.

"Acts 17:6 New King James Version (NKJV)
6 But when they did not find them, they dragged Jason and some brethren to the rulers of the city, crying out, “These who have turned the world upside down have come here too."

These early believers healed the sick and the lame ; gave sight to the blind, restored hearing to the deaf and speech to the mute; people were converted with huge signs and wonders following;these Christians gave it their all, scarified luxury and the vanities of this world to follow Jesus. They expected the imminent arrival of Jesus and so worked tirelessly to bring in more converts. There were no needy people among them ; they all had accommodation, bills were paid and food was guaranteed. The preachers were the least among the brethren because they gave all up for the body of Christ.



Fast forward to 2000 plus years later , and over 2 billion Christians, and we see a different situation which is truly astounding and mind boggling.

These modern believers cannot heal the sick or the lame; the blind are still blind, the deaf are still deaf, the mute are still mute and despite the exponential growth in the number of believers there are no huge signs and wonders following. The modern Christians do not sacrifice luxury and the vanities of this life for Jesus; on the contrary they chase after these vanities like there is no tomorrow. The church is packed full of the needy and their numbers keep growing while the preachers of the gospel are the greatest and wealthiest.

- Christians what happened ?
- Why are modern Christians so weak and powerless ?
- Why is that , the Christian population is booming but moral standards are lowering rapidly ?
- Why are there more needy people in the church than there has ever been ?
- Why is the world being destroyed from inside out , instead of upside down for Jesus ?

The church is not powerless, but faithless. This are two different thing. When the apostles asked Jesus why they failed to cast out demons? Jesus simply said, "it is because of your unbelief."

The church is Holy for Christ Jesus is our sanctification. But from now on, we are equally full of faith.

Akin1212:


You are such a lying machine. Keep it up. You said God is not driven by emotions and tears. Now that I called your bluff with verses from your bible, you want to extend the lie that God the same one that is not driven by emotions and tears has a pity that is leading us somewhere.

Is it the same word where he had to send himself as his son to come and die in order to forgive all of us? Who worships such a God sef? If not fools

You're a big time poppycock

I normally ignore it, when people come with name calling but I'm moved to respond to this. Thank you that this is what you think about me, your words are insignificant and won't get to me because I am filled with the thoughts of who I am now in Christ. To me that is all that matters.

And you are such a nice and lovely guy!

bloodofthelamb:


I never said that my God is pitiless, you said so. What I said is that God cannot be moved by our tears and emotion to go against his layed down word and principle. Hosea 4:6 My people perish because they lack knowledge.

The children of Isrealites where in captivity in Babylon way beyond the time God has promised them deliverance. It was prophet Daniel while studying, saw that the time for deliverance has come and past. He turned to God with his(God's) word in prayer and supplication. The scripture let us to know that God answered and moved on their behalf.

I believe, if Daniel had not found out the truth that they suppose not to remain in captivity more than seventy years, they would have died in captivity while they ought to be free due to ignorance.

God loves us and wants us to come to know how things truly work so that we can reign in life. He has raised up teachers to instruct us in way of faith. But our ultimate teacher is the Holy Spirit within us. He shows us all that has been freely given to us in Christ.

Akin1212, In other words God's pity and love is truly leading us to what can indeed make us free, His word.

Akin1212:


You just said God is PITILESS.

God is not moved by tears and emotions, yet Jesus wept when he realized that Lazarus had been dead for 3 days.

God is not moved by emotions and tears, yet in Isaiah 63 vs 9 it was written clearly that God was moved by the affliction of people.

Isaiah 63:9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.

Even in James 5 vs 11, another pitiful nature of your God was revealed

James 5:11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.

And Psalms 116 vs 6 gave people the assurance that this God will help the helpless.

Psalms 116:6 The Lord protects the helpless;     when I was in danger, he saved me.

I know it's very hard to be a Christian and not lie for God, the moment you stop lying for God is the moment you're woke.

You've lost what makes you human for this nonexistent God and that's why you will keep your emotions in check when a 16 year old helpless girl was abducted and raped and then killed. God didn't intervene, because he does not exist. An omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent and omnipresent God would intervene. But here you are, once again lying for God. Keep it up.

I never said that my God is pitiless, you said so. What I said is that God cannot be moved by our tears and emotion to go against his layed down word and principle. Hosea 4:6 My people perish because they lack knowledge.

The children of Isrealites where in captivity in Babylon way beyond the time God has promised them deliverance. It was prophet Daniel while studying, saw that the time for deliverance has come and past. He turned to God with his(God's) word in prayer and supplication. The scripture let us to know that God answered and moved on their behalf.

I believe, if Daniel had not found out the truth that they suppose not to remain in captivity more than seventy years, they would have died in captivity while they ought to be free due to ignorance.

God loves us and wants us to come to know how things truly work so that we can reign in life. He has raised up teachers to instruct us in way of faith. But our ultimate teacher is the Holy Spirit within us. He shows us all that has been freely given to us in Christ.

Akin1212:


This was also not for me, but I feel the need to lampoon your Father further. Your Father could send his son to come and die for the sins of the men even though he was not asked to do so. Your father could send series of messages to men in order to intervene in the affairs of men. But all those were written in your holy book. Yet you're here claiming he doesn't intervene.

But when it comes to real life issues, your Father will rather look on and enjoy the show. You people are full of lies and deceits.

Who do you think we are, kids?

The cognitive dissonance going on with you people is second to none. And it's cool because gradually you people will start seeing the craps you're all made of, including your nonexistent father.

In your fictional books he will not intervene, that's right, that's exactly why he doesn't intervene in real life events besides the fact that he doesn't exist. And that's why I didn't even respond to the mention of that guy who commented something similar. It's a waste of time.

God is not moved by tears and emotions. He is moved by His word. In a law court you do not win a case by tears and emotions, you win by knowing what the law states.

We are more than an overcome by knowing what the word of God says about us in Christ. Keep your emotions in check!

Hermes019:



If that be the case why hasn't Leah sharibu been released, haven't Christians been praying ?

It is one thing to pray and it's another thing to pray in faith. Meanwhile refresh me on the story of Leah Sharibu. Is it not one of those chibok girls saga?. I stand to be corrected though.