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Maximus69:Ask your Bible or God why he choose to destroy Heaven and Earth. |
shadeyinka:Its obvious you don't know what you are saying. What enables plants to grow? |
shadeyinka:When did City start meaning Earth? |
Maximus69:To cleanse the Universe of Sin and its effects. |
JMAN05:Just as a man's will cannot be changed after his death, so also nothing could be added or removed from the10 commandments after the death of Jesus. |
Maximus69:There is no parable or Mystery in the Bible verse I gave you. God never said the Earth and Heaven will cease to exist. Just as God destroyed the Earth during the time of Noah with flood and the Earth did not stop existing, because me and you are still living in it. So also the Earth and Heaven would not cease to exist when God destroys the wicked and the Earth with fire. 2 Peter 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 2:7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: Were was Sodom and Gomorrha destroyed? the answer is the Earth. |
Maximus69:You did not even try to refute my evidence and facts. I guess those bible verses were too evident and clear for you to deny. |
Maximus69:You see how you promote false doctrine? Is that the only verse you can quote or use to confirm that God would not destroy the Earth? What happened to the rule for understanding a topic or issue in the Bible which we have been given? 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Isaiah 28:10 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: |
shadeyinka:What do you know is the work of the Sun and the Moon besides that of giving light? |
shadeyinka:I don't have time for that. Consider the fact that the Sun and Moon where existing before Adam and Eve Sinned. and Adam and Eve were suppose not to labour until they sinned, why was the Sun and Moon existing then? Genesis 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. |
Maximus69:With the number and level of false prophecy and teaching your Church has done in the past and present, its obvious that your Church has no inspiration from the Holy spirit. |
Maximus69:2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. Does the word burnup, heat , melt, fire ,dissolve,noise have another meaning in your dictionary? |
Maximus69:I laugh, which pastor? You should have gone through my blog and see before commenting. Is that how you read and understand your own Bible? You use one Bible verse as the answer and authority over a doctrine or issue? For your information this verses do not prove that God would not destroy the Earth and recreate it. While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.” Of course this is referring to the new Earth God would recreate. |
shadeyinka:You should answer that question yourself. Genesis 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings. If Adam and Eve did not have a glorified body how come they lost eternal life and death came upon them after they sinned? |
JMAN05:Please click and read with logic and without biase https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/27/t/feast-days-and-sabbaths |
JMAN05:The law of God (10commandments) is quite different from the law of Moses which I have demonstrated to you. What I want to do now is to highlight or draw your attention to the eternal nature of God's law. After God gave Moses the 10commandments which were written by the finger of God himself. God instructed Moses to put the 2tables of stone on which the 10commandments were written into the Ark of covenant. Remember God has told Moses that the Ark and the temple were replica or were patterned after the ones in Heaven. While the law of Moses was put by the side of the Ark the 10commandments were put inside the Ark. Over 2000yrs later God's servant John was given a revelation of God's temple in Heaven and he saw the Ark of Convanent of God in the temple with the testament or 10commandments still there. Revelation 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail. Note The Ark stands for God's presences. The 10commandments are the foundation of God's government they show us how to love God and our neighbors, it is a reflection of who God is. Abolishing the 10commandments is like God abolishing himself and government. No wonder Jesus said that till Heaven and Earth pass away one T or dot will not pass away from the law till all is fulfilled. |
JMAN05:ARE THEY STILL BINDING? How many commandments are contained in the Ten Commandments? Does that sound like a foolish question? Then consider the fact that thousands of religious people would give an answer like “94” or “110.” You see, there is a strange belief on the part of many that the great God-written law of the Ten Commandments was actually a part of the ceremonial law of Moses which contained scores of specific regulations. They do not see the decalogue as being distinct and totally unique because of its divine authorship. Neither do they see the clear limitation which the Bible sets for this moral code by calling it the TEN Commandments. It seems quite obvious that one would effectively do away with the “Ten Commandments” by mingling them with ninety or a hundred others and calling them “ordinances” instead of commandments. Such a radical effort has been made to dilute the force of the only words of the Bible which God wrote with His own hand. Furthermore, the claim has been advanced that since the Ten Commandments were a part of the mosaic law of ordinances which ended at the cross, we are no more obligated to obey the decalogue than we are to offer lambs in sacrifice. Is there proof positive in the Scriptures that there was no such blending of the ceremonial and moral law into one? Can it be shown that the Ten Commandments were of a permanent, perpetual nature while the ceremonial law of statutes and ordinances came to an end when Jesus died? Indeed there is abundance of evidence to answer these questions with a resounding yes! God made known this distinction to His servant Moses, and Moses explained it to the people at Mt. Horeb. “And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone. And the Lord commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go over to possess it” (Deuteronomy 4:13, 14). Please notice how Moses clearly separated the Ten Commandments, which “he commanded you,” from the statutes which “he commanded me” to give the people. The big question now is whether those statutes and judgments, which Moses passed on to the people, were designated as a separate and distinct “law.” God answers that important question in such a way that no doubt can remain. “Neither will I make the feet of Israel move any more out of the land which I gave their fathers; only if they will observe to do according to all that I have commanded them and according to all the law that my servant Moses commanded them” (2 Kings 21: . Here we are assured thatthe statutes which Moses gave the people were called a “law.” Any child can discern that two different laws are being described. God speaks of the law “I commanded” and also the “law ... Moses commanded.” Unless this truth is understood properly, limitless confusion will result. Daniel was inspired to make the same careful distinction when he prayed for the desolated sanctuary of his scattered nation. “Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him” (Daniel 9:11). Once more we see “thy law” and “the law of Moses,” and this time the two are recognized as different in content. There are no curses recorded in the Ten Commandments that God wrote, but the law which Moses wrote contained an abundance of such curses and judgments. The major point of difference between the law of God and the law of Moses, though, lies in the way they were recorded and preserved. We have already cited Moses’ statement that God “wrote them (the Ten Commandments) upon two tables of stone” (Deuteronomy 4:13). Compare that with Exodus 31:18, “two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.” No one can confuse this writing with the way the mosaic law was produced. “And Moses wrote this law ... And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished, That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying, Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee” (Deuteronomy 31:9, 24-26). This book of statutes and judgments which Moses wrote in a book was placed in a pocket on the side of the ark. In contrast, the law written by God on tables of stone was placed inside the ark of the covenant. “And thou shalt put into the ark the testimony which I shall give thee” (Exodus 25:16). At this point we can note several distinctions in the two laws. They had different authors, were written on different material, were placed in different locations and had totally different content. |
JMAN05:Where it reads( my sabbath) is the lords day the weekly 7th day, where it reads (your sabbath ) the lords Sabbath looks back to creation all other Sabbaths look forward to Christ.only they were a Shadow of things to come, the7th day sabbath is the lords, its the lords day, all the other sabbath are referred to as your Sabbath. Leviticus 23 contains all the appointed times starting with the most frequent, the weekly Sabbath. Then there are annual days primarily set by the day of the month. The two exceptions are first fruits and weeks. Each of these follow a weekly Sabbath. The first follows the first Sabbath after Passover; the second follows the seventh Sabbath. Many of the annual days are also days of no work and could be considered like a Sabbath. Some are actually called a Sabbath: Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation. (Leviticus 23:24 KJV) Day of Atonement is also a Sabbath: It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath. (Leviticus 23:32 KJV) The seventh month begins with a 10-day period which will include at least one weekly Sabbath. Therefore in that week there will be Sabbaths (one weekly and one annual). The pattern of plural and singular use of Sabbath continues in the New Testament. The Englishman's Concordance lists 68 occurrences of Sabbath - 25 are plural and 43 singular. Many of the plural uses make sense when considered as speaking to the weekly Sabbath. For example: And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath(s) day, and stood up for to read. (Luke 4:16 KJV) Some plural uses cannot mean weekly Sabbaths: Now upon the first day of the week (sabbaton), very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them. (Luke 24:1 KJV) The plural form of Sabbath is translated as "the first day of the week". The actual language is "They came to the tomb very early morning Sabbaths..." Since the resurrection took place following a period of 3-days and 3-nights, only one Sabbath could be weekly. The translations are not wrong in that the correct day of the week is rendered (Sunday, the day after the Sabbath). What has happened is that the calendar before the resurrection has become obscured. The only way to get more than one Sabbath into a 3-day period of time is to include an annual day. Luke understood the first day of Unleavened Bread as a "Sabbath" since it was a day of no work. In other words, the resurrection occurred on Sunday after the Sabbaths of the first day of Unleavened Bread and the weekly Sabbath. Luke is not alone in using the plural form of Sabbath when describing the resurrection. It is one of those aspects of the Gospel which is found in all four accounts: Mark 16:2, Matthew 28:1 (twice), Luke 24:1, and John 20:1 and 20:19. Since the plural was used in all four accounts and since the weekly Sabbaths are 7 days apart and since Jesus was in the tomb 3 days, the second Sabbath must be the first day of Unleavened Bread. |
JMAN05:You are calling Jesus liar. ◄ Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Jesus would be a liar if fulfill means to abolish or destroy. So who abolished the law one you claim? Your translation. I have not come to abolish the law or the prophets but to destroy,stop, cease,crush,dismantle,end, eradicate e.t.c Where is the sense and logic? Synonyms for destroy consume crush damage dismantle end eradicate gut impair kill maim ravage raze ruin sabotage shatter smash wipe out wreck abort annihilate annul axe butcher cream deface desolate despoil dispatch erase exterminate extinguish extirpate level liquidate mar maraud mutilate nuke nullify overturn quash quell ravish slay suppress torpedo total trash vaporize waste wax zap blot out break down lay waste snuff out spoliate stamp out swallow up tear down Synonyms for fulfill accomplish achieve answer conclude conform discharge do effect effectuate execute fill finish implement keep meet obey observe perfect perform please realize render satisfy score suffice suit be just the ticket carry out comply with fill the bill hit the bull's-eye make it make the grade |
JMAN05:Where you expecting to see it stated by names? There is more than enough evidence to show that each of the law was different and served different purposes. while there where areas that overlapped in the laws, each served its purpose. the 10commandments were written by God himself and placed inside the Ark That of Moses was written by Moses through inspiration from God and placed by the side of the Ark. Nothing stop God ROM writing all the laws rather than only ten, and nothing stops both laws from been put inside the Ark. Stop looking for excuse where there is none. |
JMAN05:Do you know that all over the World that the 10 Commandments is the foundation for most laws in any country? If Men and Nations still have laws that stipulate or regulate Human conduct, then is it God 's government that will now abolish its own laws? What would happen if in Nigeria and US the government decides to abolish laws against killing,fraud stealing e.t.c and saying we will be living by the principles?(I wonder what that means) |
shadeyinka:Go and read Genesis from chapter 1, the creation account and see why God created the Moon and Sun. Remember that Adam and Eve where not in our fall state when God made them, but God gave them Day and night Moon and Sun. |
Maximus69:So you mean to tell me that you cannot refute the facts and evidence I go you. and yet you believe your false church doctrine even when you cannot defend or prove it. Its obvious you are more interested in Human praise and interest than God's interest. |
JMAN05:You are boxing yourself into a corner. How do I know that sleeping with Ijeoma my girlfriend is a sin? Tell me how, because society said so I because of what? You are just giving plan answer, be precise. What are God's standard, principles,ways and will, how do we know what they are? |
JMAN05:This bible verse says lawlessness not principles. If I may ask what are the principles? can you state them? |
JMAN05:How do you know qualities that are contrary to God? |
Maximus69:Where is it written that the Earth would not be destroyed? Or do you want to write your own Bible. |
Maximus69:Its false teaching because it cannot be proved in the Bible. |
shadeyinka:I don't say things I do not know. The Bible says "and the CITY has no need of the Sun" Its the City that has no need of the Sun not the Earth. |
shadeyinka:The bible says the Moon will last forever, so what is the work f the Moon? |
shadeyinka:Does a new Earth mean that there would be no more sun and Moon? |
shadeyinka:Yes the resurrected saints would have a glorified body. God also rested on the 7the day after his creation of the Earth, was it due to exhaustation ? |
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