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Sports › Re: Vanessa Bryant Pays Tribute At Kobe's And Gianna Memorial Service. by blueAgent(m): 2:44pm On Feb 26, 2020
YelloweWest:
The priest who is an eye witness said he did. I believe him. Kobe with all his fortune would not go to church unless he wanted to be there. Despite fame and fortune he was a devout Catholic.
Gossip.

I wish he made Heaven with the 8 others,but it is improper for us to assume or believe that he got into Heaven because he went to Church or he prayed.
I hope you know God does not accept all prayers?

Secondly those who are dead are not in Heaven or Hell, they are all in their graves waiting for the resurrection.

https://www.nairaland.com/5667107/why-there-resurrection
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 2:43pm On Feb 26, 2020
jyz200:
Your evidence
How is it my evidence? I did not write the Bible.Are you an Atheist?
Christianity Etc › Re: New Year's 2020, & Of Course Has 20 Repeating Itself, but Why? Happy 2020 Y'all. by blueAgent(m): 2:39pm On Feb 26, 2020
JMAN05:
Lol. You want me to state Bible principles to you? Are you a spiritual man? You want someone to tell you the spirit behind the law?
You see yourself?

How you are digress and running away because your narratives cannot hold water.

OK. tell me what is the spirit behind the law?
Christianity Etc › Re: New Year's 2020, & Of Course Has 20 Repeating Itself, but Why? Happy 2020 Y'all. by blueAgent(m): 2:38pm On Feb 26, 2020
JMAN05:
If you sleep with Ijeoma unmarried and God views it from heaven, will God say you are doing good or bad?
Bad.
tell me how do I know it is bad?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 2:36pm On Feb 26, 2020
Kallmerb:
bro i mo get time joor.... Evenn if Christ appear to u..u will still doubt.. U argue like an atheist
No one will take you serious without Bible facts and evidence.
If you are sure of what you are saying show us were it is written in the Bible.
Thats simple.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 2:34pm On Feb 26, 2020
sonmvayina:
Divine consciousness ...
Keep confusing yourself.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 5:59am On Feb 26, 2020
Kallmerb:
This is why they say bible study is important in every Church


Firstly... There are 3 aspect to every Man.. The Body(Flesh), Soul and Spirit.... Firstly you need to understand that when God breathe into man he deposited his spirit into man...Gen 2:7

The body houses the Soul and the Spirit... The difference between your soul and spirit is that the soul is where everything is deposited and keep your thought,Ability to decide both wrong and right, but the Soul also contains Mans Spirit...

Your spirit is what you use to communicate with God and connects with Him... That is why the bible said God is spirit and He who worships must also do it in spirit.. God has no interest in Mans Flesh


Now the tricky part is the soul of man can be influenced by Both the Body and the spirit.. Because A mans Soul can only understand the captain which directs it...


The Body(flesh) is a sinful existence of man because its has been cursed since lucifer was cast down..

If a man is not well grounded in the Holy spirit of God the flesh which is influenced by the Evil spirit on earth can easily corrupt ones soul...

The Soul itself can not sustain and survive on its own.. Its either its influenced by the corruptible Flesh or its Influenced by the Incorruptible Spirit of God... But the Soul can never ever be empty or alone... It must have a master... That is why theres always a constant battle of our conscience in making both right and wrong decisions


Genesis 6:12 KJV
And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

Now understand this... Due to the Sinful Nature of the Flesh it cannot transit into heaven because Habakkuk 1:13 said


Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity


That eyes of the lord is so pure that it cannot behold any form of iniquity... The Flesh being Sinful cannot enter heaven or stand before the throne of judgement


Kindly read about Enoch the Prophet and about his transition into Heaven..

Once a Man die the Soul exit mans Body and prepare for judgement while the Body returns to the dust, the Soul goes to a place reserved for them while some roam around the earth till judgement day
Show me bible verses or evidence of what a soul is?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 5:57am On Feb 26, 2020
jyz200:
Once you die thats all

Nothing like ascension, ressurection Judgement and punishment It's all bull crap
Stop deceiving yourself.
There is judgment and punishment.
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 5:57am On Feb 26, 2020
Image123:
Who cares what? The important questions like David asked should be "Who"?, "How?" What is the gain of knowing what if you don't know how?
I don't understand.
Sports › Re: Vanessa Bryant Pays Tribute At Kobe's And Gianna Memorial Service. by blueAgent(m): 5:54am On Feb 26, 2020
YelloweWest:
his mortal remains are in the grave, his soul is in heaven.
https://www.nairaland.com/5667107/why-there-resurrection
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 5:52am On Feb 26, 2020
Kallmerb:
kiss that is inspired by the Holy spirit.... Seems you really dont want to learn but argue on facts you dont know...

Shalom
Inspired by You not the Holy spirit.
Sports › Re: Vanessa Bryant Pays Tribute At Kobe's And Gianna Memorial Service. by blueAgent(m): 5:52am On Feb 26, 2020
YelloweWest:
The confessions of Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour before Holy communion is enough to make heaven.
This is guess work.
We do not know if he did that.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 5:51am On Feb 26, 2020
sonmvayina:
It will become one with God... Read psalm 104 :29-31 and Ecclessiatics 12 :7,the spirit returns to God who gave it...
You are even going deep into false doctrine.
What do you know is a spirit?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 10:13pm On Feb 25, 2020
BlueAngel444:
When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. Revelation 6:9

In the gospels Jesus says what shall it profit a man to gain the whole world and his soul

Man is flesh, he has a soul that's accountable to God
Then the children of God receive a spirit, the Spirit of God and are Body, Soul and God's Spirit

Our souls return back to God, the ones redeemed are kept the rest like you said will return into their dead bodies and end up in the lake of fire but those evil souls won't be in heaven, or in peace they will be in hell.
This is not Bible, it is Philosophy.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 10:10pm On Feb 25, 2020
Kallmerb:
This is why they say bible study is important in every Church


Firstly... There are 3 aspect to every Man.. The Body(Flesh), Soul and Spirit.... Firstly you need to understand that when God breathe into man he deposited his spirit into man...Gen 2:7

The body houses the Soul and the Spirit... The difference between your soul and spirit is that the soul is where everything is deposited and keep your thought,Ability to decide both wrong and right, but the Soul also contains Mans Spirit...

Your spirit is what you use to communicate with God and connects with Him... That is why the bible said God is spirit and He who worships must also do it in spirit.. God has no interest in Mans Flesh


Now the tricky part is the soul of man can be influenced by Both the Body and the spirit.. Because A mans Soul can only understand the captain which directs it...


The Body(flesh) is a sinful existence of man because its has been cursed since lucifer was cast down..

If a man is not well grounded in the Holy spirit of God the flesh which is influenced by the Evil spirit on earth can easily corrupt ones soul...

The Soul itself can not sustain and survive on its own.. Its either its influenced by the corruptible Flesh or its Influenced by the Incorruptible Spirit of God... But the Soul can never ever be empty or alone... It must have a master... That is why theres always a constant battle of our conscience in making both right and wrong decisions


Genesis 6:12 KJV
And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

Now understand this... Due to the Sinful Nature of the Flesh it cannot transit into heaven because Habakkuk 1:13 said


Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity


That eyes of the lord is so pure that it cannot behold any form of iniquity... The Flesh being Sinful cannot enter heaven or stand before the throne of judgement


Kindly read about Enoch the Prophet and about his transition into Heaven..

Once a Man die the Soul exit mans Body and prepare for judgement while the Body returns to the dust, the Soul goes to a place reserved for them while some roam around the earth till judgement day
This is unbibilcal, pure human reasoning.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 10:08pm On Feb 25, 2020
Kallmerb:
Matthew 22:30 KJV
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.


Are angels in bodily forms?
Stop deceiving yourself,

was it not Angels that lusted and married daughters of men that made God to destroy the old World?

Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Politics › Re: How Buhari Govt Planned To Transfer $110M Abacha Loot To Bagudu - Premium Times by blueAgent(m): 1:43pm On Feb 25, 2020
Wolgrace:
I'M NOT A FAN OF BUHARI BUT TRUTH AND TRUTH KNOWS NO LIMITS. It's a game! American govt cannot be trusted and truthful. Most won't understand!

Their master game can only be revealed by OBJ, Kingibe, IBB, Danjuma, Abudulsalami, late Frederick Fasheun, Al Mustapha, Bamaiyi of kebbi state, etc... But all are afraid to speak up (except Al-Mustapha) to avoid being attacked with visa bans and other embargoes, and also avoid being under the death-row-surveillance of the satanic American govts. If you speak up and expose them, they kill appearing innocently (Tupac, Marley, Malcolm x, JFK, MJ, etc.....). Tactics: firstly, tarnish your image through puppets, sell-outs relatives/friends, paid false witnesses, false documents, medias and the likes. Secondly, they lie in wait to get masses' approval, justification and applauds to kill or destroy or steal. Thridly, they execute as planned. It's an ancient trick of the heathenous nations in the bible.

Oh! You believed Abacha looted the funds through PMB or Bagudu? Sorry!! Predating on our Oil, mineral, natural resources and overflowing financial prosperity was selflessly blocked, hence the procurement of "FOREIGN RESERVES" for safety through his very few trusted allies, Bagudu one of them. And American govt name-shamed it as "LOOT." But when they bribe to pass bill or get support, they call it lobby. When they invade and siphone illicitly, they call it expatriate. When they kill a civic opponent, they call it terrorist or enemy. When they silence or kill a truther, they call it conspiracy theorist. When 9/11 WTC was bombed for satanic sacrifice, they call it terror attack. When ammunitions and weapons on an underground delivery to ISIS as founding fathers and sponsorer were exposed, they call it mistaken delivery. When they create virus for business, they call it animal virus. When they create wars for business, they call it terrorist attack. When they poison the air with dangerous chemicals through jets, they call it space travelling. When they poison the waters, lands, and animals, they call it climate change. When they alter or modify our natural genetic foods with chemical seeds, they call it modern fertilization. When they demonise and bastardise the natural herbs and roots for medicine and give us chemicalised pills, they call it modern healthcare system. When they sold black Hebrew slaves cheaply on Fridays, they call it black Friday. When they killed black Hebrew slaves on their owned soil, they call it thanksgiving. They can do anything through books, novels, school system, medias, music videos, especially movies to paint their evil image as good. MJ said "THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US." coded lyrics to us exposing these top wicked rulers in higher/top places of this entire world. "HEAL THE WORLD" is also a coded lyrics exposing the evil inventions as palmerworms, cankerworms, caterpillars, and locusts eating up and destroying the world. And they freely could paint evil on late Abacha's and his few trusted allies' images? My hand no dey! They are pained evil genius for returning the funds. You can see why PMB and many other nations parley with the Chinese economy for business trade. USA VS CHINA TRADE WAR, China is winning already. Hence the corona virus attack so nations will halt dealings with China. Americans can not be trusted!!

Oh! You also believed the mixed Nigeria-Lebanese lady and apple story connected to Abacha's death? I LAUGH UNA!! AMERICAN: OIL AND FINANCIAL PROSPERITY SNIFFERS NOT WELCOMED BY ABACHA, HENCE THE HIT. It was an arrangee scene to brainwash us, although his death was also jointly achieved by inside enemies (names above) who were too loyal to these white terrorists and criminals for their selfish gains. And why was the lady killed shortly aftermath? Abdulsalami's quick and peaceful handling over to OBJ will give us some clues, 1999 election was just a flashlight camouflage. IBB followed suits as arranged and agreed but things changed. Power sharing formulas was a compensation by the American destroyers and predators. Shine your eye!

American govts have the worldwide media potency to brainwash and control the minds and brains of the masses in other to justify their evil agendas. They owned most mainstream medias in the world! They are evil gurus and worldwide Babylon caliphate expanders.

FORGET THE WELL PAINTED WRITE UPS HERE.. Upon the UK court backing Bagudu's claim proves his right stand, most politicians are aware of this. American govts with two-horn and two-face claimed the said funds is a reward for helping Abacha to launder the loot but obtaining a breach of agreement lawsuit against Nigeria from the UK court said otherwise. Obj should speak up without fear, tell us the real scheme that went down during Abacha's tenure because of Bagudu's involvement but not as evily painted by the Americans, else many Nigerians will keep seeing it as opportunity to re-loot the funds if returned. My pain is that black confidence has been weakened and hijacked by internal corruption with int'l transparent evidences, extreme poverty and mental slavery, western economic dominance and pressure, western military power, western democratic and civilisation control, and dependence on int'l financial institutions for loans, assistance and support.

Na we dey do ourselves and dey give them upper hand. Loot my foot! It's a foreign reserved protected and saved for the future.
Crap.
Politics › Re: How Buhari Govt Planned To Transfer $110M Abacha Loot To Bagudu - Premium Times by blueAgent(m): 1:41pm On Feb 25, 2020
ITbomb:
UK courts and US courts are playing ludo over millions of Naija money, our Supreme Court is collecting votes from policemen (instead of INEC) to add and declare election winner
LOl.....it is now balanced.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 1:00pm On Feb 25, 2020
Horlufemi:
Most times ego is at play. It's hard to not look stupid when they say one thing then change it because they found out it was wrong. They'll rather die grin
True, Ego plays a lot of role.
Sports › Re: Vanessa Bryant Pays Tribute At Kobe's And Gianna Memorial Service. by blueAgent(m): 12:28pm On Feb 25, 2020
YelloweWest:
I lost my brother and I almost died not to talk of losing a husband and child the same day. A burden too heavy to bear but this too shall pass.

Kobe went to church that Sunday morning before his death and had Holy communion, I believe he is in heaven
Is going to Church the only qualifications to enter Heaven?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 9:55am On Feb 25, 2020
PlayerMeji:
Ecclesiastes 12:7
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it


EOD?
The word spirit here you quoted means breathe or life force.

If the spirit is what goes to Heaven or Hell why do we have a resurrection?

Jesus was bodily resurrected before taken to Heaven, why?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 9:53am On Feb 25, 2020
Blakewilli:
Its the body that will ascend on the last day. anyone who dies before that day shall go into a deep sleep till that day. Thats what that bible passage ;'dry bones shall rise again' means.
Didn't you notice that God sent angel Micheal to protect and retrieve moses' body after death?
I never said otherwise.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 9:52am On Feb 25, 2020
Horlufemi:
grin cheesy You're looking for their trouble.
My brother, I wonder how people will see clear bible verses and still deny the truth.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 8:47am On Feb 25, 2020
Goshen360:
It is the SPIRIT brother!
No. Where Adam and Eve Spirits?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 8:46am On Feb 25, 2020
PlayerMeji:
That's the ANSWER to your question, bro.

The SPIRIT goes to Heaven
Please show were it is written that the spirit goes to Heaven?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 8:45am On Feb 25, 2020
Kallmerb:
Ecclesiastes 3:18-21 KJV
I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. [19] For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. [20] All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. [21] Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

Matthew 10:28 KJV
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.



The body journeys end on earth and return to the dust it came from....

The main function of the body is to house the spirit... The body doesnt transit with the spirit to the heavenly realm
Why is there a resurrection?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 6:43am On Feb 25, 2020
Blakewilli:
So then, what does 'dry bones shall rise again' mean?
I don't understand your point.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 6:43am On Feb 25, 2020
PlayerMeji:
If you check the first and last pages of the holy Bible, one word appears familiar in the two pages and that's the SPIRIT OF GOD!

That means God is a spirit and only the spirit would be important to God.
So what will happen to the Spirit?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 6:42am On Feb 25, 2020
Kallmerb:
so u mean the same body that was buried and decayed will rise again abi... SmH.. Pray for better understanding of the Word of God...

Theres no male or female on that day.... All spirits are spirit.. No male or female spirit.. Uts only the flesh that differentiate man.. God sees us as spirit and conmunicate with our spirit
Express your thoughts with facts and evidence.

1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 New King James
Version (NKJV)
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again,
even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in
Jesus.
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that
we who are alive and remain until the coming of the
Lord will by no means precede those who are
asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from
heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel,
and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ
will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain
shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to
meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be
with the Lord.


1 Corinthians 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last
trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead
shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be
changed.
Christianity Etc › What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(op): 1:04am On Feb 25, 2020
What is rewarded at death?
To rephrase the question what really goes to Heaven or Hell,  is it the body,Soul, Spirit or all of  the above mentioned?

Only few Christains know and understand  the answer to this very delicate and  puzzling question.  The true answer to this question can be found only in the Bible.
Most of the confusion over this issue is as a result of people not understanding what a Bible refers to as a Soul or Spirit.
In the Bible a spirit can refer or mean 3 different things.
*A living being:God is a spirit, Angels,Demons & Satan are
spirits Heb12:9,Heb 1:7, Leviticus 20:27

*It can also be used to refer to the breath of life in Man or
animals. James 2:26,Job 33:4,Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto
God who gave it.

*It can also be used to refer to a persons will, capacity,
countenance,reasoning, mind,intellect,zeal,thoughts,visions or dreams.Gen6:3,Genesis 41:8, Exdous 31:3,Exdous 35:31.
Isaiah 40:13 ...'Who has directed the Spirit of the LORD, or
being his counsellor has taught him?'
Romans 11:34 ...'For who has known the mind of the Lord? Or
who has been his counsellor?'

Also the Soul in the Bible refers to 3 different things.

* A living person or animal.genesis12:15,genesis 46:18

* Life force or life of a person
Genesis 35:18

* Faculty or reasoning or intellect of a person,mind,thoughts.
songs of Solomon 1:7,3:1, Isaiah 26:8&9.

At death the spirit goes back to God who gave it  while the  body turns back to dust.

All through the Bible no where is the Soul or Spirit  described as an independent element that can exist on it's own without the body and neither does the Soul or Spirit has Immortality.

Man is nothing more but clay or dust powered by the spirit of God. Life is what makes us a Soul.

Now we have understood what a spirit or soul is we will now look at what the Bible says is rewarded at death.

Evidence of what goes to Heaven or Hell.

*Ressurection:Paul taught the early Christains that the only hope of reward for those who died in Christ is the ressurection.
This raises a valid argument if the  just can only rewarded by their ressurection from the Dead which means neither their spirit or soul is rewarded at death as wrongly taught.Paul also gave more insight on this issue by explaining that when Christ will come the Dead in Christ will be raised with their corruptible  mortal bodies transformed  to immortal  bodies and  then they will be taken to Heaven. Job 14:12-15
1Cor15:51-53, 1thess4:15-end.
2 Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

The unjust will also be ressurected  but will not experience any changes in their body or nature they will still be raised with the corruptible body which they had before they died they will be judged and cast into the lake of fire which the Bible calls the second death.
Revelation  2:11  He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.   Revelation  20:6  Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

*Lazarus and his ressurection: when Jesus arrived at the house of his dead friend Lazarus we are told that a conversation ensued between Jesus and Mary who acknowledged that her brother was going to be ressurected on the last day. this implies that Mary understood that it was her brother's ressurected body that will  be rewarded by God and not his soul or spirit.
John  11:23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.  11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.  11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

* Torment in Hell: Jesus taught  the people that in Hell their will be great torment pain and gnashing  of teeth this implies that the unjust body is what goes to Hell as Jesus also informed us that  spirits don't have flesh and bones or teeth. Matthew 25:30, Luke 24:39.

*Death and ressurection of Jesus:
It was Jesus's transformed body that ascended to Heaven and not his spirit or soul. Acts 1:9-11.
Note also that  Jesus told Mary not to touch him for he had not ascended to Heaven. (he did not go to Heaven until 40days after his ressurection)this implies that Jesus soul or spirit did not go to Heaven or Hell as wrongly taught in Churches but  he was at rest in the grave as all the Dead are till the end of the 3 days. John20:17,Luke 19:9.

*Body(Eyes and hands)in Hell:
Jesus taught the people that it was better for one to go to Heaven without hands or eyes than to be cast to Hell with both hands or eyes, this gives evidence to the fact that the body is what is punished in Hell and not the Spirit or soul, Matthew 18:19

*Transfiguration:The transfiguration  of Jesus on Mount  Olives  is given to us as an example of how the mortal bodies of those who are in Christ will be transformed before they are taken to Heaven.
Matthew 17:2, Mark 16:9

* Soul and body in Hell.
Jesus taught his disciples and the people that  God will punish/destory the body and soul (life/breathe) of the wicked in Hell.
Matthew 17:2, Mark9.

*The words of David, Isaiah, Daniel and Job:
There is no doubt that this great men where inspired by God to write that the body of the just and unjust is what is rewarded after judgement. Job14:14,Daniel 12:12, Isaiah 26:19,John 11:11,Plasms 17:15 and plasms112:10
Job  21:30 That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth(from the grave)to the day of wrath.

*Parables of tares and Wheat:
The parable of tares and Wheat  teaches us that the body of the unjust(tares) would be cast into fire.
Matthew  13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.  13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

*Body of Moses.
When Moses died the Bible tells us that Satan came to claim the body of Moses but he was resisted by an Angel of God.
Jude 1:9
Secondly it was not the Spirit of Moses and Elijah that appeared before Jesus, but it was  the ressurected body of Moses, and Elijah who did not experience death that appeared to Jesus. Luke 20:37,Matthew 17:2.

*Paul's words and teachings.

1 Corinthians 15:16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,


1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.


In Conclusion.
The word of God is clear on this subject, it is the physical body of people, changed for the just and unchanged for the unjust  that is rewarded after judgement and not some imaginery spirit or soul.

Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by blueAgent(op): 3:02pm On Feb 19, 2020
shadeyinka:
Rev 20:9:
"And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them."

Rev 21:2:
"And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband."
You are confusing yourself the City came down from Heaven to Earth.

Were was the city before it came down, Heaven.
Where is their no need of the Sun and Moon, Heaven.

Stop mixing it up. when that city comes down to Earth it will require the Sun and Moon or less otherwise stated by God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is There A Resurrection? by blueAgent(op): 8:52pm On Feb 18, 2020
Maximus69:
Don't add or remove from it Sir, the Bible said the HEAVENS and the EARTH will be burned up by FIRE!

Please let's leave it the way it was written!

As for Noah's generation, Sodom and Gomorrah, it's the WICKED that were destroyed so that the earth has remained till today!

Jesus said "Just as it happened in the day of Noah" Luke 17:26

So i strongly believe it's the same thing that's going to happen again Sir! Note verse 7 of 2Peter 3, it's clearly stated "by the same decree"! smiley
And where will the wicked be burnt, i guess in your kitchen?.

I was not the one that wrote this bible verses so argue with the writer why he added Earth not me.


2 Peter 3:10 Parallel Verses [⇓ See commentary ⇓]

2 Peter 3:10, NIV : "But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare."

2 Peter 3:10, ESV : "But the day of the Lord will come like a
thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the
heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth
and the works that are done on it will be exposed."

2 Peter 3:10, KJV : "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief
in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a
great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the
earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

2 Peter 3:10, NASB : "But the day of the Lord will come like a
thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the
elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up."

2 Peter 3:10, NLT: "But the day of the Lord will come as
unexpectedly as a thief. Then the heavens will pass away with a terrible noise, and the very elements themselves will disappear in fire, and the earth and everything on it will be found to deserve judgment."

2 Peter 3:10, CSB : "But the day of the Lord will come like a
thief; on that day the heavens will pass away with a loud noise,
the elements will burn and be dissolved, and the earth and the
works on it will be disclosed."

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