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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:23am On May 26, 2021
Arabiandude:
This inferiority complex of a thing has to stop.
Is he too small to play for Liverpool? And who says with his performance at Liverpool he can't bench Jota? Don't forget Liverpool has TA and Robertson and these 2 are perfect crossers of the ball, so having Onuachu as a top 9 will see him scoring lot of goals for Liverpool.
If the Liverpool deal is concrete, he should go to Liverpool with or without Firmino staying or leaving or likewise Jota
I don't have inferiority complex. Klopp won't bench a tested and trusted striker for a newbie unless that experienced striker is injured. When I mean experienced, I mean that someone used to klopp system. Unless Jota gets injured, onuachu won't see football time. And honestly, onuachu is too good to be limited to only a few cup matches. He needs constant first team football to sustain his form

Argue with your keyboard
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:06am On May 26, 2021
Samueltemi337:
Paul Onuachu wanted by Liverpool, Sevilla and Leipzig
Oniachu, if you are hearing Mr, don't come to Liverpool even if firmino leaves.

Jota will still start ahead of you. And what you need now is first team football
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:04am On May 26, 2021
PurpleHouse:
Don't know if I'm the only guy who doesn't rate this guy yet. Well maybe because I havent watch him play of seen his highlight. Just don't see anything special.

The only thing that'll impress me right now for the eagles, is a creative midfielder. Perhaps.
You're right..I share similar opinion
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:02am On May 26, 2021
Karlovych:
He made it clear when he was called up to the England senior team that it was a dream come true to play for them, he should switch to Canada, they'll need him more than us. Billing and Danjuma were also dropped by Denmark and Netherlands respectively, I wouldn't want them near the SE for the same reasons
I am also of the opinion that Loyalty matters a lot. If they weren't loyal then, it'll be a bad idea for us to cap them now
Sports › Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 7:43am On May 26, 2021
Roland17:
I have always said Beverly has no business being a starting PG for a team with Championship aspirations. Na just activity him get.. Ty Lue have had no answer for Luka
Makes me wonder what he actually does

He is not known to be a shooter or a floor general..
Sports › Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 7:13am On May 26, 2021
Hardetayour:
Point 1 and 2 is waaay off bro.

1. Curry is as defensive as a player his size would be. For a player that runs all game and u still expect him to be 100 on defense is asking too much and his offensive input cancels out his defensive input.

2. 2015 warriors, that's all I'll say. Nothing is hurting that man's legacy. Only haters and stupid people would say that (sorry to say).

3. Nuff said. He needs to shoot more to make defences humble.

4. The Warriors FO are just stupid idiots making foolish decisions for the past 2 years.

5. I say No to Kawhi. I have/dont seen him play GSW kinda game.

6. The FO and Kerr has said what should be done on that. The need to get shooters and assume Klay isn't coming back.
Please let's no go down the path of insults bro. Every of my comments were in reference to the GSW organization and not you. Your "sorry to say that" ain't worth shit to me. Converse without insults. It only shows your lwvwl of maturity
Sports › Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 6:04pm On May 25, 2021
benji93:
First bolded. How many players can carry a team into the playoffs, without at least another all-star level offensive player playing alongside him. You are asking too much of him. You are more like assessing the man with a GOAT-like yardstick. But i wouldn't say this hurts his legacy by much if it does at all. Normally we would be making the playoffs without the play-in game.

Second bolded. His decisions don't look all that bad honestly. Badluck makes those decisions look bad. Perhaps you can tell us which of his decisions were bad and the better alternatives.

A significant portion of our offensive problems will be solved with Klay. We seriously need that consistent complementary scoring option. I am very optimistic he'll be just fine if his recovery is managed well. Moreso cos he's a shooter. The last time I checked Durant is doing just fine. I am hoping he will be alright too.

Besides it's obvious elite defense is just not Curry's forte. If he couldn't do it at 24, you expect him to become elite at 33? Someone that's been slender for most of his career? Your argument that since Chris Paul is 6 ft, Curry should be able to play at the same level of defense is kind of moot. Meanwhile, for all his lack of proficiency defensively, I believe he's trying. The effort is there.

Now make i insult you. cheesy. It looks like na box score you too dey watch. I am very surprised by your take.
Na you sabi..

I agree with the curry defense critic. I went overboard there.

However, sorrounding curry with g league players and giving Wiggins that kinda contract was poor decision making by Bob Myers IMO
Sports › Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 3:09pm On May 25, 2021
Android17:
Nobody is to say anything, however, winning a one-off game is not the same as playing a best of 7 series. Any team can beat any team in a one-off game but better teams will usually show up after a best of 7. That is not to say we are better than Utah (because we are not) but without their top scorer, I was willing to take my chances.
I am telling you we flopped

How can you have a playoff spot on the line and go ahead to loose 2 in a row? How?

We were not good enough bro
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 3:07pm On May 25, 2021
Subzero047:
grin This will not be a good match to evaluate our strikers
abi
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 2:19pm On May 25, 2021
Subzero047:
How can you test the strikers when there is no midfield to create grin
E tire me oooo

Later, guys go talk say Onuachu is trash

You pack DM go play match and you expect to score goal

Many people eye go soon clear
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 11:26am On May 25, 2021
Belgian league's defence is atrocious
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 11:22am On May 25, 2021
Damioduso1:
If we can't resolve the midfield on time I don't see ours winning the afcon come next year in Cameroon. In this super eagles set up we don't have any players that can take on players one on one and give a quality pass to strikers to score. I don't complain if the likes of Paul Onauchu don't score for the national team cos there is no creative midfielder that can give him pass to score
Its annoying that after more than 4 years in charge of management, Rohr still is incapable of setting up a creative side

Just look at Algeria's transformation

I wonder how Rohr thinks
Sports › Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 11:19am On May 25, 2021
And i know my fellow GSW fans may hate me for this but to be honest:

1) Curry needs to work on being a more defensive presence on his team. I mean, Chris Paul is just 6 ft so size ain't the issue

2) Curry has shown us that he can't carry a team into the play-offs by himself without another superstar. That will hurt his legacy for many years. At least, he is not Kobe.

3) If green can't shoot, I wonder what he is doing earning 20mill a year

4) Bob Myers needs more scrutiny. He keeps getting away with making poor decisions because the memories of Warriors dynasty still lingers. But all that is in the past. Bob Myers has to step up.

5) Getting Kawhi ain't the answer. Even if we move a lot of pieces for him

6) Klay coming back is also not the answer. I don't think he will ever be the same again after two years away from the court. He shouldn't be rushed but should be eased into the team. All of those warriors fans shouting "when Klay comes back, we will at leastget to the conference finals" are deluded.
Sports › Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 11:10am On May 25, 2021
Android17:
I would have taken my chances against this Utah team without D Mitch.
Na so

Who's to say we wouldn't have flopped

We lost 2 games in a row when it mattered the most (Lakers and Memphis)

I can understand being a fan but let us also know the limits of our team

GSW weren't ready for the playoffs

And please let KERR work on their Turnovers this offseason
Sports › Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 11:08am On May 25, 2021
Please myers, if by any long chance you visit Nairaland, DO NOT TRADE WISEMAN

DO NOT KEEP WIGGINS
Sports › Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 11:06am On May 25, 2021
A40:
I'm surprised nobody is talking about Kwame brown and all the drama these last several days. Coming for everyone's necks and who can blame him??

Playoff Jokic is a different type of beast
Kwame brown is well within his rights to do so

I mean, the guy retired and those former teammates/journalists won't let him be
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 6:40am On May 25, 2021
Famocious:
Joe Aribo, Sanusi and Samu Chukwueze dropped

The midfield is devoid o creativity, and I wonder who will feed the array of attackers we are going to feature.

I'm not sure the relevance of Musa in the list angry
I repeat, since its Rohr, I am not surprised

Please, are wife still sure of Rohr's mental wellness? Or is he going senile?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 6:37am On May 25, 2021
edi287:
Midfield is so underwhelming. What is wrong with Rohr and the NFF?
Since its Rohr, I am not surprised
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 1:30pm On May 24, 2021
Neobulletzz:
Shame go catch you come 29th
Dey dream say you go beat man city, you hear?

There's nothing wrong in having tall dreams grin cheesy
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:10pm On May 23, 2021
daveP:
Finally.

MMLC


EPL sef.

Newcastle literally are biggest climbers from Relegation to 11.

Time for Ndidi to move on. Nacho can stay.

Rodgers no get sense.


Chelsea Bale'd out by Gareth.

Tuchel has to rely on two Masons to qualify.

See Tammy Tweeting Asif he'd play UCL football next season. grin

Be like Kroenke don get Arteta mumu button o. The praises of late are staggering.

Afcon will definitely, should deliberately be hyped way that it used to. This Afcon is gonna be hot.
Nigeria to play either Senegal or Algeria in the final
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:09pm On May 23, 2021
AndSunGorilla:
Take it or leave it, he won the FA cup, first one for Leicester I believe. A major blow to Leicester was the injury to Evans and I think they missed Fofana today a lot and Ndidi at the middle. Overall not a bad season as Tuchel brought a magic wand to Chelsea, let's admit it. If it was Mr. Lamps, Leicester go qualify easily. Where will Kane be next season? A big question and who replaces Kane, Onuachu can do the job, just saying grin
Oniachu is a decent striker. But I doubt Tottenham would trust him to replace Kane. Given time and opportunity, he can do the Job
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 5:56pm On May 23, 2021
Karlovych:
grin grin Brendan Bottling Limited
How much is their stock price?
grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 5:53pm On May 23, 2021
andrewbaba44:
They cannot
you were right

it will take Jesus coming down and donning the leicester Jersey for them to win

lipsrsealed embarassed
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 5:22pm On May 23, 2021
Chelsea fans, how far?

cc Andrewbaba44
Romance › Re: Reality Every Guy Need To Know ( STRICTLY REDPILL) ... by Blueelf: 2:59pm On May 23, 2021
heartofcity12:
Infidelity. Trust none, even your wife, always keep your eyes open.
Is it possible that some of these experiences are garnished lies??

Not that I don't believe that they could be true but you can't really verify the veracity of their claims

One love bro
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 2:31pm On May 23, 2021
Beloved3:
You see Blueelf, in the real sense nothing works by guess work or perceptions. You can't say "Ah! This guy is playing well, he is world class"

Nope.

Everything in the real world works with numbers. That's why you have metrics for FIFA ranking etc. FIFA even rates players by metrics.

By the way, below is how FIFA rated the best defensive midfielders this year and Ndidi isn't among. He is rated by FIFA as a central defender.

https://www.fifaratings.com/position/center-defensive-midfielder

https://www.fifaratings.com/position/center-defensive-midfielder

That's not an issue.... So back to my discourse;

You see, the lads here have always had arguement about who is world class and who isn't and I shake my head when I read them because all they write is based on their emotions, and perceptions; "I feel this guy is world class"

Anyways I have tried to bring a standard metric here for measuring who a world class player is. Check my earliest posts on this thread of you can.
And even when I had a debate with Andrew yesterday because he had a different opinion, I tried to help him add metrics to his thoughts and helped him build 'his' standard for a world class player. A standard far less stringent than mine.


So Blueelf, if you say Ndidi is world class, is that your perception or feeling? Do you have a metric (measurable) standard for measuring world class midfielders and Ndidi's stats fits in?

So to answer your questions; No it isn't primarily because he hasn't featured in the champions league. It is because his numbers do not meet up with the metrics of my standard for a world class player yet. A standard built with details of the best amongst the best in the game.

Ndidi is close, very close but not yet world class.

I might post the standards again for a striker and that of a defensive midfielder so you can run through it yourself and see how Ndidi compares with real world class defenders.

Again I say, very close. But not there yet.


P.S. You check Ndidi's premier league numbers here. You can select any metric of choice e.g interception.

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/interception


He's not even among the top 4 interceptors in the premier league. Surprising? Yes you would only be surprised if you swear by feelings and do not look up the stats.

Cheers bro. I'll try and post the standards again in my next post.
Is.t this link a gaming link?

Because I am seeing players whose stats are way lesser than Ndidi in the top 10

Bro, I can't agree with this link
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 2:16pm On May 23, 2021
jihday:
I didn't say he is o but if he can score 20-25 consistently for about 5 years then he can enter that discussion
Okay, sorry for the misinterpretation
Sports › Re: The NBA Begins by Blueelf: 2:11pm On May 23, 2021
Someone here will cry blood when Lebron exits the playoffs smiley

And I will be here to troll smiley
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 2:07pm On May 23, 2021
Omanambala:
Cc. Blueelf

Justice Christopher was very good. The problem with these home grown talents is the poor state of our local league. If we can organize a decent standard league like the Egyptians and South Africans we can rule the world.
I'm sorry if it seemed I was mocking your opinion.

However, what I remember about that guy was very different.

He was an Honorary Professor of Midfield Carpentry and Mediocre display.

I never heard of him after that World cup. If he was as good as you tout him, I believe he would have at least had a decent European Career
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 2:05pm On May 23, 2021
Beloved3:
Has what it takes and very close, but not there yet.
Why do you say so?

Is it because of his team or lack of champions league football. Enlighten me please
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 2:04pm On May 23, 2021
mank1234:
This arguments of who is world class is subjective and is prone to prejudice.

We are comparing strikers with DM, defenders.

If you must say that Ndidi is not world class, then you have to mention 10 DMs that are better than him currently. Otherwise, any player that is top 10 in his position is world class. Paul Onuachu is world class in my opinion. The stats are there to proof it. Any other metrics is bullshit.
Bro, not so

If he is consistent and scores the same amount of goals in a team playing in the top four leagues, then he may be considered World class

BUt for now, it'll be jumping the gun to say he is World class
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Blueelf: 2:02pm On May 23, 2021
mank1234:
This arguments of who is world class is subjective and is prone to prejudice.

We are comparing strikers with DM, defenders.

If you must say that Ndidi is not world class, then you have to mention 10 DMs that are better than him currently. Otherwise, any player that is top 10 in his position is world class. Paul Onuachu is world class in my opinion. The stats are there to proof it. Any other metrics is bullshit.
You are right about this...

Many of my friends never regard Okocha as world class but they regard Kanu and Finidi as World class. Why? Trophies

It is what it is

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