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izzou:
[color=royalblue]Thank God they came out alive. These kidnappers get small fear of God.

Even truck drivers are not spared. They now rob trucks, and kidnap the drivers.

The country is Quarter-to-Gone. [/color]

They were just lucky cos the police and vigilante saw their foot track and the path through which they dragged them into the forest . The kidnappers were caught unawares by the police and had to escape with gunshot wounds . Prior to that the kidnappers had already been calling their family members to request for ransoms .

In the comment section I saw people blaming the victims and asking why they chose to pass through Benin bypass in the night . They claimed there’s an alternative route they should’ve followed which is safer .

Funnily the victims said where they were kidnapped is quite close to a military checkpoint

We are playing well and lively today . Zinchencko doing well offensively thus far.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]True

But those transporters would have carried passengers today, and the kidnappers would still kidnap.

It is even before that we know some selected areas as prone to kidnappings. Now, it is everywhere; East, West, North and South.[/color]

The insecurity level is just so alarming . I watched a video of some kidnapped victims this afternoon that were rescued by the police . They were kidnapped close to the Benin bypass and had been beaten blue black by the kidnappers .

They were just lucky the joint task force of police and vigilante in Edo state came through for them

iamoyindamola:
Is it really still mandatory
Only government jobs require it

No private or government organization will employ u without requesting for NYSC discharge certificate or exemption certificate .

It’s only ur family business that will employ u without either of the certificates from NYSC

izzou:
[color=royalblue]While I agree that NYSC has outlived its usefulness, the scheme is just a small dot in this insecurity problem.

If you scrap NYSC, the kidnappers will not repent and give their lives to Jesus, just because corpers don't travel anymore. They will still carry another person.

Sadly, the country has been divided to a We vs them problem. If you complain, you'll be reminded of how GEJ and Buhari started it, or how it is easier to die from a gunshot than an Ashaawo in the US.
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Sure insecurity needs to be tackled but some people will not have any reason to travel if NYSC was not made mandatory for graduates .

iamoyindamola:
That's why I said IMO I won't blame any players no matter how because the coach put him there
Shebi he did well by selling ramsdale, abi raya too don't commit errors
I don't blame players, the reason I cussed Kai is because I am tired of seeing him and I will continue to hold arteta responsibile for it

You can say I don't praise him for winning, well that's his job na
To win not bottle

Goodluck to u on ur personal agenda against Arteta then 👍

Ceenachi:
I don't wanna believe it was the board or whosoever that brought Havertz......Arteta have a say in it...

Ok let assume it wasn't Arteta that brought Havertz, dis season transfer y didn't Arteta bring a natural CF, convert Gabriel Jesu to a winger (He already have the skills to beat a player, just for him to add one or two)

Add remember last season, Arteta force Havertz to pick form... played him in the midfield which didn't work(everyone saw him last season) and it was part of the reason y we didn't win the league

Now dis season Arteta is playing Partey as a right back which made our midfield to look empty and it have cos us many point (I suspect Arteta is trying to force lazy Merino to pick form, d same way he did Havertz)

So....I dunno wanna believe his the board that force Artete to sign Havertz

If I b Arteta I won't sign Merino...
We have Fabio Vieira there
Convert Zinchenko to a midfielder( he plays as a midfielder in his country)
Odegaard
Partey
Rice
Jorginho
Fabio Vieira and Zinchenko (6 midfield) and also remember Lewis Skelly is a natural midfielder making it 7 midfielder

Signing Cala wasn't a bad signing but I will use that fund to get an attacker....cos we kept more clean sheet and concede less last season

If i b Arteta
I will use Cala and Merino fund to add more in our Attack than any other position

That's y I suspect the board have refused to release some funds to him but wetin I know 🤷🏾‍♂️

PS: This is not me defending Arteta o , but following the logic in the bolded , Arsenal scored the 91 league goals last season ; the most in our history in the EPL . Perhaps that’s why he didn’t sign a striker and felt he should secure that Zinchencko’s wing that leaked goals last season .

iamoyindamola:
Lol
Just last week we drew Brighton you said the players let everyone down
The match against soton why won't I blame arteta, na me buy the players
As pep is struggling he never mentioned players fault instead baba is hurting himself to show he fvcked up
Why will I blame players, as Kai is useless the main fault is from the person that approved his signature
When pepe was in arsenal, ebening made it clear he never ask for him but zaha
I remembered saka losing PK against West Ham that season you also blamed him, without you knowing he was playing with injury, the coach that refused to get a deputy you spared him because you think anyone that blame him is after agenda
Well IMO no matter what any of our players do the main blame will always be on the player

You went to scummy thread to type instead of amuru to win games he's doing .....so you can blame amuru and not fault arteta
DP- dey play 🤣🤣

U obviously didn’t understand my post u just responded to .

I simply said there are instances u can blame the coach when the loss is due to his tactical ineptitude and there are instances when the blame for a loss lies solely with the players .

I gave an example of the Southampton match where two different players made errors that cost us two points . You can as well give examples of matches in which Arteta’s inability to tweak his formation either led to a draw or a loss from a wining position . I don’t have a problem with u doing that , but u lumping all the blames on the coach while absolving the players of any fault is what is similar to witchcraft .

Yes on man utd thread I wrote about Amuru not winning matches and turning things around for the team despite being signed for that very purpose . Their fans have confirmed how his tactics has been too difficult for the current crop of players to adapt to. That’s on him and it behaves on him to come up with a winning formulation order for them to go back to winning ways just like Arteta did back then.

iamoyindamola:
That's why I always come for the coach
I don't have any issues with the players, we bottling the league twice was down to the coach but you guys always bring up players to defend him

Bros saliba is natural until he flop sha
Yes arteta got some other good players but if we look at it critically, the number of misfit he got are more than the good players 😂

Nobody brings up players to defend him, u are the one who sees saying facts as someone defending him.

When the team loses a match due to the coach's inflexibility and poor tactics , there's nothing wrong in pointing it out and blaming him for same. However, when the team loses a match or drops points due to player errors u always want to keep blaming the coach which is unfair.

I gave an example of 2023 vs Southampton when we played 3 - 3. In that single match Ramsdale error was responsible for the fastest goal against us while Partey also made another error that led to another goal. The match ended in a draw which nobody hoped for before kickoff, but nobody will open eyes and blame Arteta for the draw except one has an agenda against him.

iamoyindamola:
These guys also know when graduates are going to camp, why can't the government also improve security during this time
Is it not better to use money to improve security than using times 10 to pay ransom
If they budget #100m to share across the country to employe more bodies like amotekun, jtf etc to help soldiers across various checkpoints all over the country

Personally I think they should scrap NYSC already sef. The scheme has outlived its usefulness ; it adds little or no value to the graduates, instead it is just an avenue for government and private owned businesses to access cheap labor.

There are some government schools where they don't have permanent teachers for some subjects, they use corpers posted to such communities as teachers. Why can't the respective state governments and local governments employ full time teachers to do that?

The scheme also exposes the corpers to risk of getting kidnapped , being involved in an accident or even a boat mishap for those serving in riverine communities that are not accessible by road.

The primary objective of using the NYSC scheme to foster unity in the country is not even working; they should just scrap already

Shegzdave how far ? Hope ur journey is progressing as planned ?

Please stay safe out there o.

iamoyindamola:
That's what I am saying, odegaard is doing well but as he achieved anything?
Absolutely No!!!
Lol una wan tag saliba to arteta success again
Person that was doing well in France, ebening owns saliba success

Can a single player win a trophy all by himself? Why didn't Van Djik win trophies with Southampton like he did with loserpool?

All these talks about a player not achieving anything and using it to downplay how good a player is ; that should be something young football fans do not an OG like u.

As regards Saliba playing well in France; we all know that any player can look like a superstar in France only for them to flop in the EPL. At least we still remember how Pepe flopped under Good ebening despite looking like Messi in the French Ligue 1.

Even if u don't agree Arteta has anything to do with Saliba's outstanding performance under him; at least u agree that the other 4 players who made the EPL team of the year were all Arteta's signing.

iamoyindamola:
Still my point he couldn't get a work permit till he left for Aston Villa and miraculously got one
Wait all you listed for odegaard are achievements abi😂, you are creating avenue for me to drag odegaard

When u say "drag Odegaard", what does that even mean? That he is not a good player that performs excellently well and has become one of the best midfielder in the league or what?

Baba drop all these agenda and appreciate our players when they do well irrespective of what happens to the team as a whole. Odegaard was so good last year that he was in the EPL team of the year. In fact, not just him but 4 players signed by Arteta: Rice, Raya,Gabriel and Odegaard. Let's not forget Saliba though not signed by Arteta has grown into one of the best defenders in the league under his tutelage; he was also in the EPL team of the year.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ABE8JdPtZ14?si=JC_S5h9x-s1y881n

I find it hard to believe the claim made by Adebayor in this video . He claims Wenger called him after coming back from an Holiday and told him he’s no longer needed at Arsenal .

That was not how I remember his departure from Arsenal at all .

germaphobe:
We needed that lb addition bro, I don't know how you guys analyse it, but we really needed that addition. There's nothing wrong in buying a lb, a winger and a midfielder at the same time. The fact that they couldn't get a winger or cf doesn't make the purchase of Calafiori a waste or not necessary.

GBAM!

That was how they were saying Gabriel's signing wasn't necessary back then. They said he should've signed attackers and midfielders; that was what led to the defence vs attack argument instead of advocating for a balanced team.

johnjunior39:
Chief be honest , in order of priority after last season was defence really the issue ?

Not taking anything away from Calafori because I am a fan too but the fact remain that there were order of priority man.
Is a norm. It was clear to all and sundry that there were games attack was found wanting.
We knew that Saka needed a deputy but we took that money to buy a defender when we had more clean sheet.

For Merino, course there was need for additional Midfielder but not Merino.

Now we have two aging DM, we don't want to start addressing it now

Sterling was supposed to be Saka's deputy but apparently that was an unwise move going by how poor Sterling's form was at Chelsea last season. That's why I said Arteta and the management deserve to be criticized for that signing.

There's nothing wrong in signing Calafiori at a time he was available considering how quality he is. Don't forget he was one of the best players at the last Euro. This criticism of Calafiori is sounding like the criticism of Gabriel's signing back then led by Kokane and the others. Look at how well Gabriel has now turned out. There's actually nothing wrong in signing a quality player who is available at a decent price and signing him should not in any way stop us from adding a striker the same transfer window.

Arteta and the club should've also signed a striker particularly after selling off Nketiah. But I guess they were looking at how we didn't lack goals last season despite playing without a regular top 9. Remember we scored 91 goals in the EPL last season; just 5 short of Man city that had Halland. I think that is the highest number of goals we've scored in a premier league season.

Now that it is clear we are having goal droughts unlike last season, it is only reasonable that we sign a striker.

Ekweremadu's wife returns to Nigeria allegedly.

https://www.nairaland.com/8323717/breaking-ekweremadus-wife-returns-nigeria

iamoyindamola:
Maybe if arteta reach the level of wengay we can overlook his purchase of flops

The point is no matter how good or poor a coach is , he will always have players that turned out good and players that never lived up to expectation under his tutelage. It is not peculiar to just one coach.

FG is chastising Julius Berger for trying to negotiate an upward review of contract cost.

Yet it is the same government that floated the naira and dollar is almost close to N2,000 from around N600 when the contract was awarded. The same FG has been unable to tame the ever-rising inflation rate . They are also aware the minimum wage has been increased and as such the personnel cost of the contractor will increase.

Is it that FG wants the contractor(Julius Berger) to execute the contract at a loss or what?

I hope the minister will mention the preveious jobs this new contractor has executed in the past so people can check and see whether they are indeed competent and not just a front to divert government's funds after delivering a shoddy job.

One needs to start asking questions, so we won't have a case of Hadi Sirika that scammed the entire country with the Nigeria Air project

germaphobe:
Wenger wey sign Lucas perez

Omo! the long list of flops signed by Wenger is inexhaustible . We once had Yaya "Sir-No-Goal"

iamoyindamola:
Funny enough I will still take maddison currently
Because he's a dead ball specialist and an active shooter

Maddison can't do half of what Odegaard does for us as a team. The way he pushes our attack and drives it , I've never seen Maddison do half of that. You are right that Maddison is a dead ball specialist and seem to be better shooter , but that's where it ends. The creativity of Odegaard will always shine through.

Just look at that second goal socred by Trossard vs Tottenham; immediately Partey dispossessed Bissouma and the ball fell onto Odegaard's path, he quickly released the ball setting Trossard up for the goal. That and more is what has endeared Odegaard to the fans. He has also scored some nice placing shots in the past vs Man utd and even Chelsea.

The fact that Maddison keeps battling with injuries while Odegaard seem to be quite healthy is another plus

TemporaryHansel:
Speed Darlington is the only person I've seen spend time in prison and come out looking fresher. Oh I think Bob too.

Perks of being a celebrity. Police don't dare rough them and starve them like they always do to regular inmates.

Anybody that can pay for VIP accommodation and feeding will surely get VIP treatment while in Sanko. The only reason why u noticed it is only celebrity that enjoys such rare privilege is because they are the only ones whose pictures post release always make it to the internet.

Other people who pay for such treatment will just hide their head and avoid media when they come out.

germaphobe:
We questioned Ben white signing too, Ramsdale too, Gabriel too and when he was still raw some of us were quick to say "we said so".

Exactly. I don't know why fans are quick to start lashing out and listing the signings that turned out bad immediately we hit a rough patch. We always forget about the ones that turned out good under the tutelage of the same coach. They even make it seem like it is only this current coach that signed flops meanwhile almost all our previous coaches have their own share of flops signed by them.

iamoyindamola:
You get am🤣🤣
If them give baba money today na to shop for 4 in 1 defenders because his oga apari just got 2 new defenders

But the 4 in 1 defenders are a plus to us. Timber has been playing across RB and LB since the start of the season and it is an advantage for us; especially when the other players who can play the roles are out injured.

There's actually nothing wrong in doing that provided the players are really good at what they do. Shebi we used to have Callum Chambers that was touted as being able to play RB,CB,DM and CM well; but we all saw how he was useless in almost all the positions. These ones Arteta is recruiting have shown themselves to be better.

iamoyindamola:
Because he's the main driver
You just don't want to see it that way
Board will drop money, arteta will go and look for 10 in 1 players to sign
It as happened before and will still happen, we the fans will be thinking the player is for this position whereas arteta knows why he's getting the guy
Normally cunha is a winger but I won't be surprised if he comes and play 9
Are we still blaming arteta 🤣

Well, I can't speak for him as regards signing a player that can play across different positions; I believe he will have his reasons for doing that(chief of which I believe will be that that it enables players to step into other positions when the original player in those roles get injured).

However, we shouldn't just discountenance his signings just like that. I remember how almost all the fans wanted Maddison as our AM only for him to sign Odegaard. Some of us even thought it was because of the 50 million fee being requested for him that was why we signed a cheaper Odegaard. Alas, today Odegaard is one of the best midfielders in the league while Maddison struggles to get a starting shirt at Tottenham.

Arteta has his bad sides and faults, but so also does he have the good sides too. We shouldn't just paint all his efforts and decisions as terrible. Haba!

It won't be bad if he signs Cunha or any other winger and still signs a striker too. Let's hope the board sees things the way we do.

johnjunior39:
I understand you completely and not putting the whole blame on Arteta but he has a role to play.

For example remember Lacazette was brought in August and when Wenger was still not satisfied, we signed Auba in January.

We had no business honestly getting a new defender yet Calafori was seen as an upgrade.

Ramsdale was doing a bit just fine yet Raya came into play.

Like I said, If Arteta needed a second for Saka he would have done that. When I saw the news that Nwaneri is back , I just knew that winger issue is buried, Saka will be back by let February which is about 4 weeks or more.

Again, my prayer is a pure 9 because me don't see this our board and Arteta buying two players this January so , give us a striker and save us the misery of Havertz before the will start trying Trossard abeg.

Why do u people keep repeating this line "We had no business honestly getting a new defender yet Calafori was seen as an upgrade" ; as if repeating it countless times will make it true?

Just last year we were all here complaining about how Zinchencko our LB gets roasted defensively anytime he starts for us. We complained so much that some of us kept wondering why Arteta keeps starting him knowing how weak he is defensively. Then there was Tear-knee who was obviously not in the coach's plan and would not be at the club today if not for his constant injuries that has scared most suitors away. Tomiyasu who could've played the LB is almost always injured every eke market day.

So how exactly were we doing well and not needing a LB before we signed Calafiori? For the life of me, I will never imagine anybody will call Arsenal signing Calafiori a luxury signing seeing how thin we are in the LB position.

I will Merino is a luxury signing but certainly not Calafiori.

As regards Ramsdale & Raya, it was obvious Ramsdale will lose his starting role going by the errors he made in the 2022/2023 season. Ramsdale was a good shot stopper that made really great saves to earn us points in his days at the Emirates but he also made so many errors that cost us points. If I don't remember anyone, I remember the one he made vs Southampton which led to those ones scoring within 27 seconds from kickoff while we were busy pursuing the EPL title. It was so bad that he had to apologize to the fans after the match .

As much as I liked Ramsdale while he was with us, I don't really fault the coach and the management of the club for relegating to the bench after replacing him with Raya. He has himself to blame for that and nobody else.

Arteta and the club management should take the blame for believing a washed Raheem Sterling would be a worthy deputy for Saka. Since it is clear that Saka's shoes are too big for Sterling to step into, it is only reasonable for them to make arrangement to sign another right winger on permanent basis since Sterling's loan is just for a year and will end in the summer.

I also want them to sign a natural goal scorer who will help us convert all those chances Havertz has been spilling. It is nit too much for us to have the best of both worlds, I believe the club is in a good financial position and we should also make some money selling some of our players that are just occupying space in the team doing nothing.

johnjunior39:
You and I know that Arteta don't think you need any winger first of all.

You and I know that Arteta will rather recall little man from Porto.

And you and I know that if Cunha come is a case of he can play 9.

Like I said, my prayer is let them get a proper 9

We've all seen that Viera cannot play on the wings, even Arteta himself knows this; that's why he was sent on loan since there's no space for him in the middle where we have Odegaard holding it on lockdown.

Cunha is at best a decent winger who will contribute goals from the wings.Even if we don't sign Cunha, we will need to sign another winger to play the righ wing because we are quite light on that side of the pitch.

The fact that Gabriel Jesus is injured makes it imperative for us to also sign a decent striker and Osimhen is not a bad choice.

This is not about having a pre-conceived notion about Arteta; honestly I wonder why u guys find it so easy to blame Arteta for everything while absolving the club's management of any fault. Even before Arteta joined this club as a coach, we've been having issues of not signing players we the club feel we need. Don't u think it may be the club management's issue and not necessarily the coaches?

johnjunior39:
You really believe in Arteta that he will sign Cunha for 80m or so to come and play as a winger ?


See let him just give us a striker biko.

A proper one oh not they one that can play 7 positions

It is not about what I believe or what u believe.

It is not Arteta's money but the club's money. If we need a striker and a winger, it is only expected of him to suggest his preferred targets for the roles to the management and let them push to get them signed.

We need both winger and striker, so let them sign both.

iamoyindamola:
Unless that's what we want to do
Cunha is not a CF but a winger, knowing how our coach is obsessed with 3 in 1 kind of players
We might not get a real 9 but those jack of all trades type

The only thing that will make sense is for us to sign a winger and a CF .That way we will have enough squad depth and we won't be lamenting anytime Saka is injured ; also we will have our goal scoring challenges sorted once and for all

daveP:
The Vlahovic negotiations fell through. Too difficult to reach compromise is the verdict. Who's next?


Oops!! All these thing fit be to raise fans expectations and dash it with 0 signings.

I've never really liked this Vlahovic and wasn't looking forward to us signing him.

I'd rather we sign Osimhen as our CF now that he's currently available.

johnjunior39:
This Cunha guy just dey do me like another Havertz signing.

Walai, I pray it does not pull through. We need a proper 9 with numbers. Buy once and do all Lil what we did with Auba.

All this he can play across all front, he can do this and that don tire me

How is Cunha signing going to be similar to Havertz's ? Cunha has scored 10 goals in 21 EPL games this season already.

I believe signing him to use him as a winger and then signing another CF will not be a bad business at all.