European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:49am On Feb 17, 2024 |
raumdeuter: I wont call that idealism rather opportunism. One Nigeria was Okay as long as Zik could dominate. When the cart was shaken few months later there was a coup to wipe out everyone who was perceived to have shaken it. Maybe idealism is not the word and maybe opportunism is also not the word. But it's obvious Zik miscalculated As regards the coup , from the account of the coup I've read that wasn't the intention of the coupists. I'm talking of an account written by a soldier who was one of the 3 leaders ; Adewale Ademoyega . |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:22am On Feb 17, 2024 |
raumdeuter: No he wasn't. He was very smart and had his agenda. His moves in the first republic proves he wasn't
Awolowo had always shown open disdain for the North and will never see them as equals or partners he could work with, The North saw him as arrogant and were all too eager to humiliate him
Zik on the flip side saw the opportunities that working with the North created for his people
What is the better deal than you can align with the not too educated North as a partners and fill all the posts all over the South with your kinsmen like Zik dreamed of.[/b]Bello held the North and all the key posts, Zik and NCNC allies held the entire South while the AG and Awo were opposition with nothing
Aligning with the North ensured that the West which had earlier rejected Azikwe's bid to be premier in the West was now the spoil for Zik and NCNC to consume and Zik did so with relish
There was a time University of Ibadan and University of Lagos both had Kenneth Dike and Eni Njoku as VCs, Benefits of One Nigeria and aligning with the North until things went sour. Akintola broke that alignment of Zik with NPC. When the tenure of Njoku expired, Akintola ensured that he was replaced with Prof Biobaku
Which is why the pattern of the Jan 1966 killings were targeted at certain individuals This is why I said Zik gives the aura of an idealist who was equally naive . That was the idea in his head , but that was not eventually played out. Ahmadu Bello's nothernization policy was practical and not some idealism that didn't play out as planned . |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:30am On Feb 17, 2024 |
afrodoc2: Political shortsightedness or naivety.
Compare them to someone like Ali Jinnah who ensured that Pakistan gained independence separately from India, thereby avoiding a situation in which India was a house divided and at war with itself, with a Hindu majority oppressing a strong Muslim minority.
I think the difference is that Jinnah clearly saw that the Muslims would be dominated in a unified Indian subcontinent while each of those Nigerian leaders you mentioned probably underestimated the other groups and thought that his own group was superior and would rise to the top in a survival of the fittest situation. That most likely applies to Awo and the Sardauna. I suspect that Ziik was probably just an idealist and politically naive. I agree with u that Zik was an idealist through and through . He did less calculations and underestimated other subgroups . More like he was a fiery orator and idealist that's why he thought that much difference in culture, traditions and beliefs that exists between the north and the south is something that can be waived aside and a nation will be built therefrom |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:47am On Feb 17, 2024 |
afrodoc2: Lee Kuan Yew was a genius but it doesn’t take a genius to understand that this is the foundational problem that Nigeria faces. How we just manage the paper the cracks for over 60 years despite knowing the foundational problems ourselves still baffles me . It is funny how foundational leaders like Awo, Zik and Ahmadu Bello all recognized our differences as a people ; are aware of the obstacle the differences pose to building a prosperous nation ; but somehow when it mattered most they focused on getting political power as individuals . This week, our history series focuses on two years before Nigerian independence, when its post-British political fate was decided. Throughout 1958, Obafemi Awolowo ramped up his calls for Nigeria to be divided into more than three regions before independence. He stated colonialism meant the Yorubas, Igbos, Hausa-Fulanis and others had been “lumped together by our British overlords without the knowledge or consent of the people concerned, and with little or no regard to their cultural, linguistic and ethnological differences.”
Awo stated “there is more in common between a Greek villager and a British villager than there is between a Sokoto villager and an Ijaw villager.” While the Greeks and Brits shared a culture “derived more or less from the same source – Christianity – when you consider the relationship between the Sokoto man and the Ijaw man, where is the connection? There is none at all, either in language or in culture. They do not even derive their culture from the same source,” he argued.
Interestingly, though bitter political rivals, Ahmadu Bello shared Awo’s view on northern and southern Nigerians being fundamentally different. “They (southerners) get their civilisation from over the sea; we get ours from over the desert,” Bello told Manchester Guardian in 1956. He saw southerners as western-oriented while the north looked to the Islamic world for inspiration.
However, because Bello viewed the north as being in a dominant political position by the late 1950s, he was not overly worried about what would happen to his region in an independent Nigeria. In March 1958, he was confident enough to declare before the northern House of Chiefs that the aim of his “Northernisation” policy was to have “northerners gain control of everything in the country.” Nnamdi Azikiwe, meanwhile, argued that cultural differences between Nigerians were not an obstacle to nation-building.
Zik and Bello are famously said to have had a meeting at which Zik said to Bello, “Let us forget our differences” to which Bello responded, “No, let us understand our differences. I am a Muslim and a northerner. You are a Christian and an easterner.” This exchange encapsulates the vast difference in approach to Nigeria’s ethno-cultural diversity between Bello (and Awo) on the one hand, and Zik on the other. Awo and Bello were both clearly more realistic about what Nigeria was while Zik appeared to overestimate the ability of rhetoric to constitute reality.
It is worth mentioning that despite his strong opposition to Bello and northern elites, Awo approached not just NCNC for a coalition, but NPC as well. However, northern elites were so bitterly opposed to Awo, largely because of his consistent campaign to break up the north, that they ruled this out and chose NCNC instead
Nevertheless, having lost his battle for a reconfiguration of Nigeria before independence, Awo, like Bello and Zik, turned his focus to the all-important general election of 1959, which would determine who controlled Nigeria’s political centre after Britain left. Electioneering kicked off in earnest with Awo and other Action Group (AG) leaders crisscrossing Nigeria in helicopters, campaigning hard in the seat-rich north and in the east, where they hoped to make enough in-roads with regional minorities to be able win a majority at the centre. https://businessday.ng/columnist/article/how-nigeria-walked-into-a-disastrous-independence-and-why-azikiwe-never-became-prime-minister/?amp=1 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:03am On Feb 17, 2024 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:32pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
Ibime: When you sit in a committee of clowns, you have no choice but to laugh. Wetin man go do? As an educated person Ribadu owes the congregation a duty to at least educate them after the clown of a cleric must have done with his lectures . He should've asked for a chance to speak after the cleric and just clarify on some issues . As the NSA I expected him to at least tell them the anchor borrowers was a loan and they are expected to pay ; albeit he will talk to the authorities to give them grace to pay at a forward date . He can also chip it in that we are one in this country even though we support different parties ( even if he doesn't believe it ) They won't stone him if he does that . And I'm sure by now that his stupid laughter video is trending ; he would ask his team to release the video of him Correcting those impressions . |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:23pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:11pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
Shaytun: You’ll get migraines trying to follow a topic you have no understanding of.  Shifu! Ur humble servant is humble before thee ; feed us with premium I & E bulllshiiit . Maybe we will learn 🙇 I & E expert isonu . |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:23pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:29pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
Emaprince: Omo.see host. 
Shey na BBL causa am abi wetin Yeah , the lady do BBL |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:09pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:16pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]But the notice is correct.
Gbagada and Badagry expressway are notorious for one chance robberies
The only time i was robbed on one chance was at Oshodi/Gbagada expressway
Years back, i was driving into Lagos very early in the morning, and i saw them push a young guy out of a bus on that expressway. [/color] That Mile 2 road used to have one chance more than any part of Lagos. I don't know about now sha |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by BlueRayDick: 4:27pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
Leyqute: Pep is praising Chelsea.
Iya yen ma po baje 
Im thinking 4 to 6 goals. Guardiola na bastaard.  He does this anytime he wan trash him opponent |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:25pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
Sportsweb: There are hausas in this Government, there are Fulanis. Tinubu is not the only Muslim in this Muslim Muslim government who should do the work of God. Why is the Government asking us to pay back the loans? Why are they probing us?
wait Dem been no wan payback loans? Yeah, the Anchor Borrowers wey Emefiele give dem , dem no wan pay back  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:13pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
akwesenana: https://www.nairaland.com/8002121/muslim-cleric-speaking-against-igbos
Ribadu was shining teeth like.... 😂😂😂😂😂 I am less concerned about Ribadu shinning teeth, but deeply concerned that Ribadu the national security adviser sat down in a gathering where this much bile and idiocy laden message was delivered as lecture. Like a country where we claim we are one and and the NSA sat there not even correcting the misinformation that Northerners deserve to collect loan for farming and not repay the loan? That the NSA will sit down all through a lecture where the man is suggesting northerners should not be probed or investigated? Shame on Ribadu! Shame on DSS if they don't invite the stupid cleric as well "No igbo person supported this Muslim Muslim administration why are you still giving them money from the Federation account?. when you have not given us money for farming. [You provide us with small government money as loans for farming, yet accuse northerners of embezzling government funds. Meanwhile, the Igbos who didn't support this administration are still receiving government's money. Some of you will say this is happening because Tinubu is a yoruba Muslims. Are there no hausas or Fulanis in this Muslim Muslim Government?"
"There are hausas in this Government, there are Fulanis. Tinubu is not the only Muslim in this Muslim Muslim government who should do the work of God. Why is the Government asking us to pay back the loans? Why are they probing us? Igbos that did not support this Muslim Muslim Government have Gotten alot of money from Government for free and the government is asking us to pay back loans? why are they investigating us?....this should not be so. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:54pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
iamoyindamola: Saw this on x Which kind release be this wey nobody sign am? I'm sure it's one random person that just designed this and post it online. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:37pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
Itsrm: Sometimes I wonder the kind of work you people do in Lagos to afford those ridiculous rents.
Abi una dey gather 3-4 month salary go pay rent  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:50pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]Right there on the frontpage[/color] If this is it, then na laziness wan kill the the owner's business. Most times supermarkets out of laziness don't change the price tag despite updating the price on their e-commerce software. Sometimes it's due to them being understaffed. From my own view, this supermarket didn't do anything wrong. They are just like other traders/businesses who increase the price of products as soon as they restock at a higher cost. It's just their failure to change the price tag on the shelf that the government and people wey no like the store dey latch on. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:15pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:47pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
iamoyindamola: You just have to do it to avoid something bad happening Imagine 3 days she chop last  I know, but some of the people in the video sef no sure wetin dem go chop tomorrow yet they still contributed something and even pacify the daughter crying. It takes a kind heart to do that |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:45pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]Nigerians are more sympathetic to women, especially those with children.
If it was a man, forget it. Na him go use him own hand stand up[/color] Na when Man wan commit suicide Nigerians dey know say the man dey go through alot. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:38pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
iamoyindamola: Omo  Nigerians are really kind hearted and humane. Despite the fact that most of the people on the video are facing their own respective shege, they still managed to contribute something for them to feed.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:31pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
Amigoss: Get it but when average Nigerians do this,they will get the "Nigerians are greedy" tag Those companies do that because they get major part of their finances from foreign lenders . The facility they get from local commercial banks are minimal. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:24pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
A lot of things really happened under Buhari's government sha https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3Z3DY3MswE/?igsh=MTdlaDUyY2o5b295MQ==Hear Sowore saying arrested Boko Haram commanders were watching Cable TV while in DSS detention and yet they took his own phone ; denied him access to cable TV and news. Buhari na disaster wey no country deserve Abeg . |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:00pm On Feb 16, 2024 |
Amigoss: But it is the same cement he sells cheaper to other countries.... Maybe because the economy of other countries are stable , they have electricity and exchange rate doesn't keep jumping each time. And maybe they have price control in those countries too. What izzou said up there is the sad truth. Most companies like Dangote industry cost everything in dollars; with the way our exchange rate is jumping it is inevitable for prices of their products to remain same in Naira |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:43am On Feb 16, 2024 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:42am On Feb 16, 2024 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]The current Deputy Muiz Banire Fashola
Omoh...
Seyi go shock as dem go deny am entry into the deliberation room[/color] Omo! Dem plenty inside APC sef; imagine if the PDP guys now team up with them.... Some few loyalists go just collect enough money they can from Seyi and bind him to the philistines. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:39am On Feb 16, 2024 |
afrodoc2: 100%.
If Tinubu is not alive and well his son can’t smell that governor’s seat. Excatly. People wey don dey follow Tinubu himself drag while he dey alive go just form Econet work against Seyi . |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:37am On Feb 16, 2024 |
Unlimited22: He wán disguise
BlueRayDick na NURTW chairman in view, e just dey deceive us here 😂😂😂😂
Check him fellow arsenal fans too.... Iamoyindamola, Roland17, Spy360.
Later them go dey use am yab us 😏 U don forget say that David Lyon supporter turned kidnapper was arrested wearing a Chelsea Jersey. Abi u and izzou want us to spam here with pishures of criminals donning the infamous West London blue Jersey ?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:16am On Feb 16, 2024 |
iamoyindamola: The guy is very greedy with women, if not that koko zaria quickly sample portable baby mama before MC sight her Sope Otilo Na free money those guys dey see dey cause am na. That's why the women too are attracted to them |