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Politics › The Many Unforgettable Sins Of Gen. Muhammad Buhari (part 1) by bnovative(op):
London (NDR) - Bandwagon is
actually the best way to
describe the "love" some
people have for Buhari. A lot
of people join others in
proclaiming how upright the
man is, but when you engage
them in discussions to
actually give you points on
why they think highly of him,
they struggle to give points.
The question I often ask is,
based on what premises do
these people come to that
conclusion?
Anyone who is willing to
teach me this should do so.
I'm willing to learn. But
before you play the Semantic
Hero, be very careful with
me, I may not have been to
Harvard, but I can hold my
own anywhere and anytime.
To me, Buhari, is a
pretentious anti-corruption
fighter.
Buhari in my view is too old
to be contesting for
president. Hey! Before you
remind me that Nelson
Mandela became South
African president at 70, all
I’m saying is that, if we know
what is good for us, Buhari
should first of all inform us of
his health status. A 70-year
old man who will be 73 in
2015 should reveal to us his
health status. At 70, most
people actually live on drugs
and food supplements.

Buhari is a coup plotter. He
plotted a coup that ousted a
democratically elected
president. No civilised
democratic society would
elect the likes of Buhari as
President, the same
individual who overthrew an
elected President. Before you
give me that excuse of his
plotting a coup due to
corruption, remember that
ALL coup plotters alleges
their main reason is because
politicians are corrupt and
there has been break down of
law & order. For Buhari to
president is like asking a
pirate who hijacked your ship
& sank it, to become a captain
to lead a rescue mission for
the ship.

Buhari is an ethnic bigot, as
part of his tribalistic
practices, he placed President
Shagari under house arrest
inside a palatial mansion in
Ikoyi but he locked up
Shagari's vice, Alex Ekwueme
in Kirikiri. Shagari is an
Hausa/Fulani like him while
Alex Ekwueme is an Igboman.
This action of jailing
Ekwueme is ethnically fired!

Buhari jailed Fela Anikulapo -
Kuti on trumped up charges
under emergency law which
prompted the sentencing
judge to confess that he was
ordered to do so and
apologised to Fela. It was
Buhari's administration that
said it has "decided to deal
with this Fela problem once
and for all."

Buhari locked up politicians
without trial, and his critics
not just Fela who was
notorious for clamouring for
the exposure of the oil money
rogue. Mrs. Vera Ifudu, who
was an NTA reporter then,
was sacked through his
prodding as military ruler,
for reporting what Dr.
Olusola Saraki had told her in
an interview about how the
missing money was traced to
Buhari’s account at Midland
Bank London branch. Vera
eventually won her case of
wrongful dismissal in court
against the NTA and was
financially compensated.

Dim Emeka Odimegwu
Ojukwu, who returned from
13 years exile, just a little
over a year then was as well
locked up in Kirikiri Prison by
Buhari. Up till today we were
not told what his offence was.

Buhari ransacked the house
of Chief Obafemi Awolowo
and confisticated his
International passport. We
were not told what Awolowo
did till date.

He convinced all the northern
political leaders against
allowing the National Identity
Card program because this
would unravel d myth of
Northern population
majority.

Buhari is an oligarch who
does not believe in equality
before the law. He jailed
Chief Lateef Jakande, Mr. Jim
Nwobodo, Ambrose Ali,
Adekunle Ajasin, Ayo
Ojewumi on cases that have
no basis. Ayo Ojewumi
became blind as a result of
his imprisonment over false
charges and died shortly
after. Prof. Ambrose Alli also
became blind as a result of
this false imprisonment.
Adekule Ajasin was never the
same after his eventual
release and remained sickly
for the rest of his life.

Buhari allowed Awwal
Ibrahim (Niger State
governor), who was arrested
in Heathrow Airport in
London with 14 million
pounds sterling and several
millions of Niara & dollars to
be under house arrest.

He put in place a retroactive
law that killed three
(innocent) men by public
execution. But he left
untouched Ibrahim
Babangida, an alleged well
known drug baron who later
overthrew his government.

Buhari jailed Ndukar Irabor
and Tunde Thompson of the
Guardian Newspaper on
stories that were factually
true under Decree 4 and told
the Nigerian journalists then
that it did not matter whether
the story reported was true
or not, if his regime did not
like it, d writer would go to
jail.

Busari Adelakun died of ulcer
because Buhari refused him
to be taken out of prison the
immediate medical attention.
The then Gov. of Ogun State,
Bisi Onabanjo suffered
similar fate which we were
told led to his untimely
death.

Buhari jailed Sam Mbakwe,
went for one of Mbakwe's
wives too. He established
himself again for what he
was/is by letting Mbakwe
receive the news of the death
of another of Mbakwe's two
wives while in prison.

Buhari's henchman and
sponsor, CPC governorship
candidate for Kano State in
2011, was Mohammed Abacha
– the same person that ran a
personal killing squad,
coordinated the killing of
Kudirat Abiola and attempted
to kill Mr. Alex Ibru.

Buhari is unforgiving. When
he was in power in 1983, he
remembered an article
written long time ago by Bisi
Onabanjo titled, "the Mallams
are coming" and a later one in
which Onabanjo wrote people
should watch out for that
"gangly officer from the north"
after Buhari gave a no holds
barred speech at some Army
function where he was
reported to be very openly
pro-Fulani and pro-Islam to
the exclusive of all else and
also talked about termination
of democratic rule. Onabanjo
got a harsh jail terms and
treatments.

Buhari supervised the
smuggling of 53 suitcases
filled with cash against the
protests of General Tunde
Idiagbon and ironicall
Abubakar Atiku, former
Director General of the
Customs, a compromised
politician who later became
the Vice President. The
smuggling was supervis
Buhari's ADC, Col. Mustapha
Jokolo.


Buhari was in full support of
all the atrocities of Sani
Abacha against the Nigerian
people. There is no single
record of his criticism of Sani
Abacha during those dark
days when Nigeria was on
precipice. It shows that he is
a patriot of convenience and
as such unfit to lead the
country. Apathy and evil
work hand in hand. They are
the same basically. Evil wills
it, apathy allows it, and
apathy - is not bothered so
long as it is not personally
inconvenienced.
We should never to be silent
whenever and wherever
human beings endure
suffering and humiliation. We
must always take sides.
Neutrality helps the oppressor,
never the victim. Silence
encourages the tormentor,
never the tormented- Elie
Weisel. Buhari is not Boko
Haram, but he, like so many
of the rest of the Northern
leaders including the sultan
have not openly and seriously
condemned the activities of
members of Boko Haram.
Being silent in the midst of
another's suffering, even
when your in a position to
speak against it, you are
either tacitly supporting the
evil and/or in fact enjoying it.
Buhari has never been able
to account to Nigerians what
he did with the 20 billion
Naira of the PTF of which he
was the chairman under Sani
Abacha and has not been able
to point to any project that he
prosecuted outside the North
with the trust fund. Buhari
discriminated against persons
from other ethnic groups; as
PTF Chairman, he employed
an overwhelming number of
Fulani/Hausa/Moslem at the
detriment of other groups
and concentrated PTF
projects in the North. El Rufai
testified to this, when he
wrote about Katsina boys who
used the money they made at
PTF to bankroll Yar'Adua's
election in 1999.
Mallam El-Rufai wishes to
remind General Buhari that
he has remained perpetually
unelectable because his
record as military head of
state and afterwards, is a
warning that many Nigerians
have wisely heeded. His
insensitivity to Nigeria’s
diversity and his parochial
focus are already well-
known.
El-Rufai said the whole world
is now being ruled by young
people and wondered why
old blood should continue to
rule Nigeria. Obama is 48 and
Cameron is 43 for God’s sake.
So, why are we recycling
leaders that ruled this
country very well or very
badly 25 years ago?
El-Rufai said: “I was 25 years
old when Buhari and
Babangida were Heads of
State and now am 50 and they
still want to be. I don’t
understand that. I don’t
understand that at all and I
call on young people of
Nigeria to take their future
into their hands and ensure
in the next election, they vote
for a new generation of
leaders.
We will not make progress
until we break the link from
the past and move on. 70% of
Nigerians are below the age
of 40. Many of these young
people, the next generation,
as they are called, are on
internet services such as
Facebook & twitter, using
Blackberry & if you ask any of
these people running for
presidency, they will think
Blackberry is a fruit. So, we
have to move away from
there and stop thinking that
this leadership thing is all
about us or all about
individuals.
We must put the future of the
country at heart and give way
to a new generation of
leadership. He further said
people like President
Babangida and General
Buhari should just disappear.
They should give way to a
new set of people with new
ideas. Young people
preferably.
Now I ask, why did El- rufai
suddenly turn to Buhari's
protege? What agreement
was reached between the duo
that made him start singing
praises of a man he
castigated and accused of
smuggling in 2010? The same
El-rufai told us Buhari's
daughter (who just passed
away) was married to an Igbo
man. By sharing what
someone else posted on
Facebook without proper
verification. It took the
innocent girl's death for us to
know that she was married to
a fellow Hausa Moslem,
Captain Junaidu Abdulahi - all
in a bid to launder Buhari's
Islamic image.
Buhari is intolerant. When he
was adopted as the ANPP's
candidate on the night of the
party's primaries without
prior warning to other
candidates and a few of them
protested, Buhari made a
speech that those people
must be disciplined.
IBB and his crew similarly
ran rings around Buhari. On
the 10th anniversary of
Abacha's demise, Buhari said
Abacha stole nothing from
Nigeria! This is in spite of
millions of dollars recovered
from banks around the world
and Abacha family signing a
formal agreement to return
over $1 billion dollars, Buhari
insisted Abacha's stealing
remains an unproved
allegation. Why? He said this
because Abacha set him up
like an emperor and let him
use oil money from the Niger
Delta to develop the North
without supervision or
questions.
To add insult to injury, Buhari
snubbed the same Nigerians
he now wants their votes by
refusing to appear before
Justice Oputa Truth and
Reconciliation Panel. Buhari
knew how important
reconciliation is to the
stability of democracy. He has
never apologised at anytime.
This is the same way CPC
loyalists massacred and
lynched Nigerian youth
corpers after the last
election. A refined politician
is expected to tender an
apology on behalf of the
ignorant loyalists. Buhari
refused to apologise. He
argued that the mob were
angry because election was
rigged. Is that sufficient to
take the life of another?
Buhari forgot or pretended to
have forgotten CPC rigged the
election too by registering
under aged voters. He who
comes to equity must come
with clean hands and he who
seeks equity must do equity.
Buhari concentrated on
allegations of rigged election
rather than on human life.
The three men executed by
Buhari were Lawal Ojuolape
(30), Bernard Ogedengbe (29)
and Bartholomew Owoh (26).
One of those three –
Ogedengbe - was executed for
a crime that did not carry
capital punishment at the
time it was committed. Killing
people with retroactive laws
is not a civilised thing to do. It
is murder and same as Aluu 4
incident.
He enjoys mostly the support
of the North. A man who
intends to lead a country as
diverse as Nigeria is not
willing to get the attention of
other ethnic groups. Neither
does he attempt to campaign
in other regions.
If Nigerians intend to remove
President Goodluck Jonathan
come 2015, then, pitching
Buhari against him is
definitely not a good idea.
copied from news day.
Politics › Re: Femi Fani-kayode Referred APC And Buhari As Forces Of Darkness by bnovative(m): 12:54am On Dec 12, 2014
The question u apc supporters should answer is: did buhari make those statements?
Buhari said Abacha didn't steal any money yet we all know that Britain is still returning abacha's loot till date. so much for Mr integrity.
Travel › Re: Nigerians, Highest Number Of African Criminals In Britain - UK Home Office by bnovative(m): 5:59pm On Dec 11, 2014
Going by their records, I will say Nigeria has the least percentage of criminals - 0.78% while Algeria leads by 3.38%. The truth is that Nigerians are law abiding outside Nigeria, and it's wrong for people to keep tagging us criminal.
Politics › Re: Governor Rochas Okorocha's Son-in-law, Uche Nwosu Wins APC Governorship Ticket by bnovative(m): 4:33pm On Dec 10, 2014
Now this must be the progressives!!! sai rochas son in-law.
Politics › Re: People Sef! See What They Wrote About Oby Ezekwesili & Obasanjo by bnovative(m): 4:21pm On Dec 10, 2014
Imagine if it were between Deziany and Gej, the people shouting "it's a harmless hug" would be insulting the persons involved. For me, the pictures may mean nothing but that was a good sweet hug.
Politics › Re: Remi Tinubu Wins APC Ticket For Lagos Central Senatorial District by bnovative(m): 11:17am On Dec 09, 2014
This must be the definition of "progressives!!"
Politics › Re: APC Is The 'Waste Basket' For PDP's 'Expired Substances' - PDP by bnovative(m): 10:34am On Dec 09, 2014
brownlord2:
If APC have 3 out of 5 presidential candidate as ex pdp, Including Tambuwal who would have made it 4, then PDP is right. I am sure no party in any part of the world has this record, having high ranking members and presidential candidate from a corrupt party.

Apc seem confused and want to give pdp the chance to ride us for another 4 years with their "power must return to North " agenda
No dear u are wrong! Immediately they change from pdp to the dump site, sorry I mean apc; their sins are cleansed and they became progressives.
Politics › Re: APC Is The 'Waste Basket' For PDP's 'Expired Substances' - PDP by bnovative(m): 10:26am On Dec 09, 2014
Chisos!!! see upper cut! apc is equal to pdp dump/dumb site!!
Politics › Re: Photos: People, Events And Places In Nigeria History by bnovative(m): 9:18am On Dec 03, 2014
dreydee:
When the pound was equals to the Naira...










But now angry
When was that?
The pound was the currency of Nigeria
between 1907 and 1973. Until 1958,
Nigeria used the British West African
pound , after which it issued its own
currency. The pound was subdivided
into 20 shillings, each of 12 pence. The
Nigerian pound (which was at parity
with the British pound with easy
convertibility was replaced with the
introduction in 1973 of the decimal
naira at a rate of 1 pound = 2 naira.[2]
This made Nigeria the last country to
abandon the £sd currency system.
Family › Re: Should I Stop Her From Seeing 'pastors'? by bnovative(m): 11:16pm On Nov 30, 2014
Op don't call prayer house "prophet " a pastor. From your story It's safe to say your wife has been patronizing these seers before she married u; probably she believes she got.married through the help of these fake demonic seers. you are on a long thing, because a person who is patronizing these prayer houses is worse than the devil.
Family › Re: Should I Stop Her From Seeing 'pastors'? by bnovative(m): 11:06pm On Nov 30, 2014
flipboss:
.if she must visit any where first... it should be a hospital. Why not encourage her, and both of you go see a doctor. Infertility is inability to concieve after one year of regular sexual intercourse.
Perhaps she's got some very 'ugly' past with medical implications and she's just trying to cover it up and play 'smart'
So on point!!
Politics › Re: Has The Nigerian Authorities Been Alerted To These Under-aged Potential Voters? by bnovative(m): 10:22pm On Nov 30, 2014
This can happen only in the north. they're all progressives and buhari's vote base. we have seen it happen during census in the north; where a mallam comes out of his small hut to tell the census official that he has four wives with 20 children. As official u dare not try to insist on seeing the alleged wives and children because every house in the north is " ba shiga " The north is a fraud and they know it.
Also you will not hear any apc supporters condemn this malpractice, because it serves their masters. Apc is a joke .
Crime › Re: Policeman Killed First Class Graduate In Kaduna by bnovative(m): 8:09am On Nov 27, 2014
Moses died for love. The police man killed for love. Rip to the dead, the police should face the law, while love should be excused.* phew!! what did I say?*
Politics › Re: Breaking News!!! Bomb Blast In Kasuwa *monday Market Maiduguri* by bnovative(m): 3:34pm On Nov 25, 2014
Allahu akbaru Bomb! bomb!! North bombing their sorry ass and believing they are hurting Gej. Sai bombs!!
Business › Re: Jonathan Refutes MURIC's Allegation Of Jewish Symbol On N100 Note by bnovative(m): 9:01am On Nov 25, 2014
IBB used the Israeli intelligence / security during his reign as president yet this prof didn't cry?
The national assembly monument is structured as a mosque, yet Christians don't complain.
There was no church structure in aso rock until obasenjo, who converted a hall in the Villa for worship; yet there was a well built mosque since the inception of Villa and the sect didn't cry.
I can go on endlessly but I won't; just a word for every Muslim with a warped sense of reasoning: go and die!!!!
Business › Re: Muslim Body Alleges Jewish Symbol On New N100 Note by bnovative(m): 10:06am On Nov 24, 2014
UkwuNnu:
You are pathetic!!! Can you pls tell what is the meaning of that symbol in Jew?
Just cus your co traveller called it a jewish symbol makes it one. If at all it is one, what is the meaning? That is not even Star of David to start with...

Anumanu
U don't reply/quote the likes of omenka, It's a waste of your precious mb. Unfortunately the hausa Muslims don't regard the Moslem from the west.
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Nigerian Army Recruitment: WAEC/NECO Results From 2008 Downward Is Expired? by bnovative(m): 8:25am On Nov 24, 2014
Elder4all:
Wen dem put am for law or even announce Am??[color=#990000][/color]
Don't mind people with false information. The op is being economical with the truth and someone has already believed that waec / neco certificate expires after some years. smh.
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Nigerian Army Recruitment: WAEC/NECO Results From 2008 Downward Is Expired? by bnovative(m): 8:21am On Nov 24, 2014
Viccutee:
Very true
Not true!! The op is misinforming this forum.
Christianity Etc › Re: Synagogue Building Felled By Controlled Demolition -police by bnovative(m): 8:26am On Nov 20, 2014
kenex4ever:
I watched d video of d cctv cameras a month ago and concluded dat it is a controlled demolition because d house barely took up to a second b4 if got down and dats too fast to b a normal collapse, I think there was an external force. Let's not have dis mentality of "he must b guilty" let's b logical n impartial, Now I know dat people really hate this man for doing good to others. No wonder u people killed Jesus Christ.
Did the police officer present any evidence to show it was a controlled demolition? Aside watching the video to base his assumption on the speed of the collapsed structure, do u know they may have used substandard material for the building construction? The same way he added four more floors to a building that had a foundation for two floors. Tb Joshua could have earned a lot of respect if he wasn't trying to twist the truth.
Sports › Re: Akwa Ibom Mobilises 25,000 Fans For Eagles Game Today by bnovative(m): 3:04pm On Nov 19, 2014
LagosStinks2:
So in Nigeria spending taxpayers' money on tickets and transport for a football match is not seen as wasteful expenditure?No wonder your country is such a mess.
Really? Spending on pilgrimage and marrying wives for people is the approved progressive way of spending tax payers' money.
Sports › Re: Akwa Ibom Mobilises 25,000 Fans For Eagles Game Today by bnovative(m): 2:30pm On Nov 19, 2014
MadCow1:
Paying bride price for his people?!



Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard.. A Man who cant pay for his own bride has no business being married.

And iyou are a very funny Asuquo! o Even if I was a hateful person, na Akwa Ibom state I wan hate?! grin

Mbok Like I told the rest of your Awoof-craving Asuquo Brothers, Drex go left. grin


This matter is not about your useless state.. Its about Politicians running free everything most especially Apkabio.
Having gone through most of your post, it will be foolhardy on me to keep exchanging words with a warped minded person of your class. I give up!! Enjoy your folly.
Sports › Re: Akwa Ibom Mobilises 25,000 Fans For Eagles Game Today by bnovative(m): 2:18pm On Nov 19, 2014
MadCow1:
Akpabio...




Wasting Akwa Iboms State Money since 2007.. grin


Instead of empowering those poor Akwa Ibom people to be able to afford things for themselves.. He keeps dashing them free things. grin

Free Cinema, Free Ticket for match, Free Jip to Tuface, free plane ticket to Dubai for Tuface wedding, free everything..
If it were kwankwaso paying bride price for his people, that will be "progressively " excellent. Hatred runs in your blood and it kills faster than Ebola. seek help.
Politics › Re: 2015: “obasanjo And I Have Agreed To Save Nigeria” – Atiku by bnovative(m): 11:32pm On Nov 18, 2014
antecidence of baba and atiku who want to save nigeria
www​.nairaland.com/.../ haliburton-
obasan...
TV/Movies › Re: Some Of The World's Most Touching Movies. by bnovative(m): 8:05am On Nov 16, 2014
buchisom1:
Nobdy is talkin abt films lik The God father, the crious case of bejimine bottlen, the last don,basic instent and i sleep on ya grave
I watched the godfather and the last Don , such that I could memorise every word spoken by the characters involved. But sometimes in April really had me , like the root.
Politics › Re: Bomb Blast In FCE Kontagora Niger State by bnovative(m): 7:34pm On Nov 13, 2014
MarvelJ:
Does this sentence sound right to you sir?! Because GEJ is not a northerner then northerners will kill Northerners?! Sigh. Just because my step-brother got a job before me, i will start tearing my credidentials one by one?!
That is what it is bro. U are able to reason this way because u are educated, how about the majority of children roaming the street of the north without education? children who are brainwashed at islamia ,what can they possibly think. The same brain that birth suicide bombers will make them kill, thinking they are hurting Gej
Politics › Re: Bomb Blast In FCE Kontagora Niger State by bnovative(m): 7:25pm On Nov 13, 2014
clemzo101:
Let me tell u the actions d president is not taking, arrest and prosecute the sponsors of this demons once and for all but he is afraid. 11 generals were suspected at a time what have u heard since den, the senator's case still in court nothing will happen. And definitely the secret service will ve a list of names too, why not prosecute this people once and for all, damn the consequences. What makes u a leader is d ability to take decisive actions. because if we don't face the sponsors we will just continue fighting dis abokis on d street and yielding no result.
OK. I wish it was as easy as u said; unfortunately you can't prosecute without concrete evidence against the supposed sponsors. As for the Senator that was involved, our law doesn't admit the call/electronic evidence. The quota system the country has also compromise efficiency, as many sss officers come from the north; some of them are moles in the secret service. Let me say with all sense of responsibility that boko haram will stop when the north want it stop. It's an ideology war and it's more complicated than u think.
Politics › Re: Bomb Blast In FCE Kontagora Niger State by bnovative(m): 5:22pm On Nov 12, 2014
okeyscrib:
Please explain what GEJ was supposed to do? You are just an ignoramus and a dumb id10t with a great vacuum in your head. People like you should not be in this country at all
Take it easy on the child, he's one of the almajiris.
Politics › Re: Bomb Blast In FCE Kontagora Niger State by bnovative(m): 5:14pm On Nov 12, 2014
clemzo101:
Like seriously when will the president start taking decisive actions against this demons? we cant just continue to watch dem kill innocent people. sometimes i just get tayad of this country, people will go and sleep and wake up dead that is if there is anything like dat. i was telling someone this has bcom a problem for the whole of Nigeria, that we are not in that region doesnt mean it doesnt concern us. God help us ooooooooo
what action has the president not taken? You must understand that boko haram stands for a radical Islamic ideology which 80% of northern Muslims embraced. All they want is a Muslim president from the north. It's never about good governance, it's about power returning to the north. until this happen, the bombs will continue.
Politics › Re: Bomb Blast In FCE Kontagora Niger State by bnovative(m): 5:02pm On Nov 12, 2014
datguru:
Islam
hahahaja! This must be the peace that Islam is known for; bombs! When a child pollutes the air in the night, wake him up to perceive the odour. Please Gej, allow the north to enjoy boko harm. First they thought they were hurting Gej; and now they want gej to stop their folly. Sai boko haram! Sai buhari. Sai the sharia republic of northern Nigeria.
Politics › Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by bnovative(m): 8:14am On Nov 12, 2014
mcdokwe:
Well they made their point clear. Our military is enmeshed in gross human rights abuse which we as Nigerians who chose to be sincere to ourselves can't deny.

Besides, apart from the allegations against our military, it is obvious the US is waiting for the situation to get so terribly bad to the point where their interest, whatever it is would be best met.
("Nigeria will break up in 2015"-US government)
Which military is without records of human right abuse? The USA military committed worse atrocities in Iraq. The truth is America is denying us bc we refused to pass laws in favour of gays.
Politics › Re: Declare Total War Against Boko Haram, Northern State Governors Beg Jonathan by bnovative(m): 9:22am On Nov 11, 2014
Sane governor. The problem is most Muslims from the north support boko haram ideology, hence it will be viewed as a fight against Islam. Also, the low level of education in the north has further provide the Islamic insurgents with foot soldiers to use. I'm afraid the war against the insurgents will end when a Muslim becomes the president. it may sound laughable but real.
Politics › Re: Why Did Jonathan Return Capital Oil To Ifeanyi Uba? by bnovative(m): 12:35am On Nov 11, 2014
aljharem:
Abi oh !!!!!!!!!! BTW, mind if i copy the image ?
No they can't give! it's all about power returning to the owners (north )

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