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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 10:40am On Oct 14, 2019
Dennis3D:
Hello people.
Any Quantity Surveyor in the house.
Kindly contact me.. 07038166370. Call or WhatsApp.

Thanks

I am a Quantity Surveyor. Check my signature
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 10:40am On Oct 14, 2019
trixel:
How much will it cost to build a classroom that will seat 40 students. From foundation to finishing.

You may need about 6.4m. But your drawings will help determine the actual sum
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 10:38am On Oct 07, 2019
It's been a while here
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 2:24pm On Sep 19, 2019
temi4fash:
Hello Senior Engineers on the house.

Whixh is cheaper to do decking or roofing for a 2 flat 3 bedroom all ensuite building.

The plan is to do 4 flat though but funds is doing ojoro right now?

We are still in the planning and discussions phase.

Your input would be highly appreciated

Hajivince:



Definitely, the roof which will make it a Bungalow is cheaper. U don't need to go over the board, u can just do the longspan aluminium roof but if you want to attain the 4Units of 3bd flats, then you will need to have planned for it from the foundation then u deck and probably felt & introduce a form of temporary flood drain around anywhere on the deck & make sure u have made provisions for the members that will carry the first floor. U can even do a temporary felt if u don't mind

The comment above is a good one.

However, I always advise people to build vertically and take advantage of vertical.

Land mass is in limited supply but you can maximize your plot of land by building vertically.

It depends on your location, taste and financial projection.


If you can afford it, you can make it a storey building.
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 2:21pm On Sep 19, 2019
akanniade10:
Greetings to everyone, pls does anyone know the cost to install doors. I just bought 8 doors (1 front door and 7 inner doors) i have bought the keys and hinges as well. But the installation price seems to be on the high side. 20k to install 1 front door and 15k each to install the 7 inner doors.

Pls is this normal price to install doors?


Where is your location
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 2:20pm On Sep 19, 2019
akanniade10:
Greetings to everyone, pls does anyone know the cost to install doors. I just bought 8 doors (1 front door and 7 inner doors) i have bought the keys and hinges as well. But the installation price seems to be on the high side. 20k to install 1 front door and 15k each to install the 7 inner doors.

Pls is this normal price to install doors?

Where is your location?

Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 2:07pm On Sep 19, 2019
westliverenterp:
I want to build a petrol station will 25 million naira be enough for the project..

You will need to do what is called DESIGNING TO COST.

If you have a very tight budget, the petrol station can be designed to be within that amount.
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 12:56pm On Sep 13, 2019
Dennis3D:


Kindly engage a QS (Quantity surveyor) for this.
We should try as much to give professionals their right do carry on their activities and responsibilities.

That been said, the design is what informs the quantities of materials needed. One can only give you an average figure of which in most cases may either be slightly lower or higher.

Well said

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 12:47pm On Sep 13, 2019
eddybongo101:
Hello, please what is the estimated number of blocks required to build a four(4) Bedroom bungalow all en-suit, with two parlours, ante room, kitchen, store,dinning, laundry room. Best regards as i wait your response.

Do you have the drawings? If yes, then let's have a look at it
Properties / Re: Consult A Quantity Surveyor Here by boay(m): 8:36am On Sep 12, 2019
Are you a property owner or a developer?

Do you want to develop and your watchword is VALUE FOR MONEY?

IF YES, then this is for you.


Kindly drop comments and post your questions on this thread.

I will give you professional advice and render professional services that will help you to achieve VALUE FOR MONEY.


When Value for money is your watchword you need a Quantity Surveyor
Career / Re: Thread For Quantity Surveyors, Construction Economist, Cost Expert, Com. Manager by boay(m): 8:32am On Sep 12, 2019
Hello o...

Quantity Surveyors....
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 5:24pm On Sep 11, 2019
keepingmum:
without re- igniting tensions - i just want to say this thread has been extremely helpful to a novice like myself. a 3bed house in Abj is almost complete and my family (whom i am building it for ) would be moving in, in a few weeks

So far, i have spent just under 7million naira ---- around 6.8million to make it "habitable".

whats been completed so far includes 3bed (all ensuite) - toilets/showers, french windows, Turkish security doors etc

Floor tiling everywhere (inside and outside - used nigerian ceramic tiles)

POP everywhere - the living room actually has those POP designs with "hidden lights", all doors fitted,

Electrical/Plumbing done but waiting for NEPA to come do their bits, Fence has been erected but not plastered

Whats outstanding

Nepa - connection

Carpenter ish - builds of the Kitchen cabinet/bedroom wardrobes

Borehole (i was given a very high bill, 1 millionaire for borehole at the inception of the work and i just decided to channel the monies to other aspects and perhaps deal with the borehole last

Exterior flooring (interlocking)

Gate/plaster fencing

Painting.


I embarked on this project January of this year because i was tired of paying abuja rent for my mum and didnt want to renew her tenancy when it expires towards the later part of this year. I got someone a QS to supervise the project for me as i am somewhere in afghanistan + being a novice. We have had our ups and downs throughout the project but so far, we have carried on and i can vouch for the work he has done.

I tried to use some services from some of the "tradesmen" on this thread and was unfortunately disappointed - I however found the numerous advises from some others here very valuable - especially as it was like a 2nd and sometimes 3rd opinion which equally helped me save costs: but more importantly, helped me know that the advise i was given by my QS was a good advice.

I will post pics just before they move in but just want to encourage anyone whom like myself, would want to commence on a project and isnt sure they will be able to nor is discouraged, start with what you have and set your self a realistic timeline based on your personal circumstances, get a good QS and see what God can do......i ensured my family visited the site every 3 - 4wks and made video calls whilst there to assess the progress of the work as well.

Finally, do not bow to family pressure to hand your project to a family member especially, if like me you are building by proxy because sorry be your name...... notorise your work with your Site supervisor or QS - i always ensured all my communications regarding instructions and monies were typed via emails/chats and kept phone calls to the QS to a minimum because- NEVER say NEVER

Also, dont cut corners - i remember when i tried cutting corners for the plaster work because i was told here that i could get my plastering done for cheap, yeah that cost me as i had to pay to have the work done again

Anyhoo, thats me for now, GOD bless us all


When value for money is the watchword, get a Quantity Surveyor. Kudos!

Get to know who a Quantity Surveyor is:

Quantity Surveyor is the profession within the Building and Engineering construction sector that is concerned with the cost and contract administration from conception to closeout of any project

The profession came out of the need to separate the design function of building and engineering projects from the cost and management function in order to achieve efficiency, effectiveness and value for money. Thus, it combines the understanding of the process and the knowledge of the construction process with the competence of construction cost accounting.


A Quantity Surveyor is a development and construction cost adviser on building, civil and heavy engineering project. The Quantity Surveyor is the financial expert in all matters relating to Building Civil and other engineering project. The Quantity Surveyor is often referred to as the Cost Consultant of the Construction Industry
Properties / Re: Consult A Quantity Surveyor Here by boay(m): 5:22pm On Sep 11, 2019
Who is a Quantity Surveyor?

What is Quantity Surveying?


Quantity Surveyor is the profession within the Building and Engineering construction sector that is concerned with the cost and contract administration from conception to closeout of any project

The profession came out of the need to separate the design function of building and engineering projects from the cost and management function in order to achieve efficiency, effectiveness and value for money. Thus, it combines the understanding of the process and the knowledge of the construction process with the competence of construction cost accounting.


A Quantity Surveyor is a development and construction cost adviser on building, civil and heavy engineering project. The Quantity Surveyor is the financial expert in all matters relating to Building Civil and other engineering project. The Quantity Surveyor is often referred to as the Cost Consultant of the Construction Industry
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 3:40pm On Sep 07, 2019
EngrKem:


Why not here so others will learn?

In as much as some things can be shared here, some should be paid for.


I do things for people for free. But I charge them when I need to

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 3:33pm On Sep 07, 2019
With some of the comments on this platform, many participants posing as professionals are not.
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 3:15pm On Sep 07, 2019
topsy23:
I have learnt a lot in building industry, am an Electrical Engr(COREN Registered ), I have worked with so many building contractors and also learnt from them. I can not take the job builders simply because of the little knowledge I have.. Anyrtime a client call me to come and handle a construction, I normally tell them NO. I major in MECHANICAL(HVAC). ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING (MEP). again the work of QS is also very important in building industry as well, they are suppose to generate BILL OF QUANTITIES(BOQ) from the design drawings..

i was In a site one day in Victoria Island Lagos in which there was serious argument between a builder and the client.. Client said he want the head room to be 3m after the finish floor and the ceiling but the required height by the client could not be achieve based on the error from the Architect. The client they should pull down the structure( 3 storey building that is already roofed), Serious argument but later resolved

Thanks for this contribution.

Let me add something.

Many clients are stupid and their stupidity usually cost them.

A Quantity Surveyor is trained in basically three areas:

1. Contract Management and Administration
2. Construction and Building Technology
3. Construction Economics/Measurement

Preparation of BOQ is the main duties of a QS that many are familiar with but that is just one out of many.

Check this thread for more duties of a QS

https://www.nairaland.com/3463994/consult-quantity-surveyor-here

The work of a QS is similar in a way to that of a lawyer. You can tell your QS to prepared construction contract to be signed by you and the contractor.

The contract documents with the BOQ are what you and the contractor will sign as you enter into the construction contract. If you do this and your QS know his onions the Contractor will not mess with you or misbehave.


Before you sign the contract, read the conditions of contract and ask your QS to explain anything you don't understand.

The Contractor is to do the same on the other end. If he is stupid not to read the conditions before he signed it that is his own headache.

When any relationship is not govern by conditions, it will definitely go wrong. Contractual relationship is not an exception. This is why many contractors misbehave
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 3:03pm On Sep 07, 2019
EvaFemi07:
I am new here and I really want to thank everyone for what I have read so far on this forum. Please I want to ask about BOQ, we have a duplex and all drawings are ready so I would love to know:
1) How much does it cost
2) How detail does it always fo
3) Some told me 50k and I think it might be too expensive, what do you think
4) I dont have any ideas about it so what should I look out for
5) What differentiate a good BOQ from a bad one
Please I nedd your help

Let me use this opportunity to address some issues

Many Nigerians don't understand the work of a Quantity Surveyor. At times, they don't even want to pay for the services QS render to them. I have experienced this several times.

Many are penny wise and pound stupid.

I learnt about a client who paid an Engineer/contractor money for 20tons of reinforcement when only 8tons is needed.

Why can't you pay a QS 100k to save 1.5m or 5m and much more?

Let me share this with some that it will be beneficial to.

If you want to give your building project to anyone to execute for you, get a QS to give you a detail BOQ which will surely contain the estimated sum to complete the project.

Give the drawings to the Contractor or Engineer that will execute the work for you and tell him to submit his own detail estimate/quotation or bid. Use the BOQ of your QS to assess the estimate of the Contractor.

Your QS can help you to thoroughly assess the estimate submitted by the Contractor. He can even tell you how much discount you can ask from the Contractor or the amount you should negotiate to.

I created a thread to answer questions relating to Quantity Surveying. You can see it here:https://www.nairaland.com/3463994/consult-quantity-surveyor-here


There should be a basis with which you assess the estimate from the proposed contractor.
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 2:52pm On Sep 07, 2019
Dubemcapital1:






With due respect sir, A builder is a Contractor whose job is to construct a civil structure BY employing a necessary workforce :
1. Engineer
2. Workmen (skilled)
3. Labourers (unskilled)
4. Materials
5. Other resources.

But a civil engineer is someone who has acquired knowledge of designing, constructing and maintenance of a structure.

Therefore, just as homeowners, a builder hires an engineer to aid his work with technical or professional aspects.

So, by implication, a civil engineer can be a builder but a builder is not an engineer.

Howbeit, a builder's job description does not include the bone of contention


Thanks

Dubemcapital

Anyone can be a contractor. Being a contractor is not a profession it is a business enterprise.

Many CEOs and owners of construction companies are not construction professionals they only engage professionals

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 3:32am On Sep 02, 2019
To achieve minimal cost of construction, consult a cost expert for preliminary cost advice before you commence execution
Career / Re: Thread For Quantity Surveyors, Construction Economist, Cost Expert, Com. Manager by boay(m): 10:36am On Aug 30, 2019
A Construction company is Abuja requires the services of
Position: Quantity Surveyor
Location:Abuja
Job Description
Assist in the preparation of bill of quantity
Assist in the supervision of company's ongoing project
Assist in the design of road, bridges e.t.c

Key Skills
· Must have experience in AutoCAD · Must be able to Prepare Bill of Quantity (BOQ)
· Good Numeracy skill
· Good knowledge of Microsoft Office Tools
· Excellent relationship-building and interpersonal skills
· Team Work
· Attention to detail and a methodical approach
Qualification
· Bachelor’s Degree/Higher National Degree in Quantity Survey
Minimum of 1 year experience in Construction(Road, Bridges e.t.c)
·Must have completed NYSC
· Membership of Professional Body is an added advantage.
Must be willing to travel

Deadline: 29th August, 2019
Interested and Qualified Applicants should send Mail to edwincharlie4@gmail.com
Properties / Re: Consult A Quantity Surveyor Here by boay(m): 9:22am On Aug 29, 2019
The Quantity Surveyor is at your service
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 9:18am On Aug 29, 2019
Umarzy:



Exactly, you can't use lekki mentality/costs for Omu-Aran or Ilorin.. The difference is clear grin

In Ibeju Lekki an iron bender charged me 30k per ton. In Osun I got a bargain of 18k per ton.

Can you see the margin? This is within the same time frame.


That is why some contractors take workmen and artisans to places where the cost of labour seems high from other places (mobility of labour). They will only provide accomodation for them. Especially when the project is of a good magnitude.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 9:13am On Aug 29, 2019
timesup234:
That's the price unless you like being cheated

You're funny oooo. I don't like to be cheated neither do I cheat people.

I have worked on a 9 bedroom duplex and a room is 7m by 5m. Can you compare this with the standard 3.6m by 3.6m?

There is what we call limitations and assumptions of estimate.

Every estimate must be accompanied with the limitations and assumptions made to arrived at it.


Will I take the estimate of a 3.6m by 3.6m and apply it blindly to 7m by 5m? No!

I need to adapt the estimate to suit the situation under consideration

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 9:08am On Aug 29, 2019
Umarzy:


Thank you, most of them don't consider those factors you mention here. They just give cost anyhow. One thing i can never do.

There are many more factors

A bricklayer that have been working with for about 5 years will charge me differently than someone that is new to me.

At times, he may even do some things for me sacrificially because of the relationship. However, that cannot be used as standard

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 10:15pm On Aug 28, 2019
timesup234:
There bedroom is around 80k to plaster. 50k wont do it. A two flat of three bedroom will cost you 180k for labor

grin grin grin grin

Nah you fixed the cost? You don't even consider location, size of bedroom and relationship with the bricklayer that will do the work

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 10:06pm On Aug 28, 2019
I am happy that some people are disagreeing with some estimates being given here.

Most times I read comments and laugh.

You can't compare the opinion and experience (about construction cost) of someone working in PH, Abuja, Lagos with that of another in Ilesa, Ife, Ede, Akure, Ogbomosho, Ekiti, etc


Even if you claim you have experience, apart from location and nature of the site, the pocket of the client, speed of completion, knowledge and exposure of the client, nature of execution (direct labour or through contract), duration, etc can determine the final cost.


Consult the professionals.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 4:06pm On Aug 24, 2019
abdulwastecx:


No matter how poor the quality of finishing is, 18-20m will not give you good duplex in any path of Nigeria.
Carcass alone will cost you about 13-15m, while the most moderate finish will also as much

Okay, however from my experience and calculations it will
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 4:04pm On Aug 24, 2019
justojai:


Sound so rude, Do u only supply to your compound people?

I didn't mean to be rude. I don't do that. But you just did what you accused me of.

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Career / Re: Thread For Quantity Surveyors, Construction Economist, Cost Expert, Com. Manager by boay(m): 4:02pm On Aug 24, 2019
Our client a market leader in the Quantity Surveying and Project Management Consulting business has vacancies for graduates with a good Bsc or HND in Quantity Surveying with minimal experience but high natural intelligence and Excellent O’Level Grades. Applicants should not be older than 24 years of age by the 1st of October 2019. Eligible applicants should send their CV's to recruitph1@gmail.com The closing date for submission is 20th September 2019. Only short listed candidates will be contacted
Career / Re: Thread For Quantity Surveyors, Construction Economist, Cost Expert, Com. Manager by boay(m): 12:47pm On Aug 23, 2019
Needed

Quantity Surveyor

Industry - EPC
Bsc/HND QS
Candidate must be Certified by the Nigerian Institute of
Quantity Surveyors (NIQS);
Years of experience- Minimum of 7years field experience
Proficient in standard industry software
Send CV to recruitment@bluesteelsolutions.com.ng with Quantity Surveyor as subject of the mail
Properties / Re: Heres Why You Should Get A Quantity Surveyor 4 Your Building Project by boay(m): 9:46am On Aug 23, 2019
Yes, people need to get a QS

Quantity Surveyors are pivotal to total cost management of construction projects
Education / Re: Re: Quantity Surveying Students by boay(m): 9:43am On Aug 23, 2019
Good one here

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