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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 8:05pm On Jan 19, 2023
visaclick:


I rather have my vt beside the dining just in between the lobby to the rooms. It gives the visitor a sense of belonging and you are leaving a great impression. The VT at the living room is a still okay as long as there's a lobby to close of any four odour but a vt outside is kind of insulting in my opinion. It's like telling a visitor to take your his or her shit outside. If you didn't want him or her in the first place why the invite?
Having a VT in a somewhat isolated part of the house will give the visitor more freedom to shit and mess freely, especially if it is those kind of shit that makes sound like bomb and the shit probably smells like rotten egg.....

Ladies would free to change their pads and wash the inner caucus properly in an isolated VT than in the SR VT

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 7:58pm On Jan 19, 2023
toyeoye:


I think there's a misunderstanding here, the guest toilet is isolated and for quick runs but if a guest is sleeping over, there should always be a toilet inside the visitors room.

Yes there's a misunderstanding. We are not condemning VT but we frown at it being in the sitting room. There are a million places to site a VT inside a house without sun nor rain touching the visitor....

We all have toilets inside the guest's room, but it won't serve as a VT for me.
The architects here know what we are talking about but they won't say a thing.
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 7:06am On Jan 19, 2023
KolaShangOne:


Bros,

The 597 sqm was used on your building. Every roofing has waste / off cuts.

You owe him 200 x 597sqm. That's what Sonnie was trying to say.

If you decide to pay him less, you're not being fair to him.

You can ask your QS @QSFEMI how its done.

I still don't know how your roof has more than 100sqm "waste".

He does owe him anything
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 6:56am On Jan 19, 2023
KolaShangOne:


Waste means he's breaking your tiles for no reason.

This isn't the case here. Your analogy doesn't fit.
Yes some artisans are witches, they can waste materials for no reason. Some can waste it so they will be paid for, as if they used the materials.
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 7:19pm On Jan 18, 2023
Siunit26:


One of the reasons most people think is better is that their parlor is a room at 9t for visitors.
They can easily use it without going outside grin grin.
It does not make no sense....
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 7:15pm On Jan 18, 2023
Hatesin:


No. The only place they know to put V.T is in the mouth of the home owner so that his visitors will not even have to stress themselves standing up to pee.
grin grin grin grin
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 9:57pm On Jan 17, 2023
diordaves:


So if rain dey fall and your visitors want to go toilet, dem go enter rain go backyard go piss, enter rain come back?

I go kuku piss or sh_it for body then. Why I go enter rain go piss because I come visit you.
Shit for your body na, wetin konsan me.
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 9:54pm On Jan 17, 2023
Olumighty123:


Where else then would your visitor go use a toilet? In your bedroom or the next compound? Maybe throw their waste over the fence?
Are you not a builder? Why ask us... If you know your onion you should know how/where to perfectly site a VT
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 3:30pm On Jan 17, 2023
Hatesin:


My brother, those visitors toilets sef. They will look nice in the drawing but by the time you start using them, you understand the real thing. Not every visitor knows how to use it and by the time they mess up your house two times, you will be forced to lock it up.
There's nothing fanciful about having a toilet inside a Palour....

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 2:55pm On Jan 17, 2023
Rany4all:
It may be negligible to some, but not to others. That is an entirely subjective matter, and should be left to the client to decide. Haven personally experienced both scenarios, for me it is worth every extra penny.
Well I can't disagree with you, we are all saying same thing from different perspectives....

@bolded carry the tank to the top of Burj Khalifa na
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 2:07pm On Jan 16, 2023
Rany4all:
If you drop an egg-sized stone on to your head from a height just an inch above your head, you'll hardly get hurt, but just imagine same stone falling from the top of a four storey building on to your head on the ground floor grin grin ....My brother, height does matter a lot, no need to argue this one abeg.
In the case of overhead tank, the pressure difference is negligible...
His point is.... The negligibity of the pressure difference does not worth the Extra height/money.
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 7:58pm On Jan 14, 2023
Rany4all:
This is exactly what went down:

Before I engaged the installer, I hired a Quantity Surveyor on this forum to do the roofing estimate for me (installer did not know this). The QS estimate for the actual area to be covered was 478sqm, but with 25% addition (making 598sqm) to account for wastes.

Now wood work for the roof was done exactly as designed on the architectural drawings (no addition or subtraction) and the final cost of the wood work was very close to the QS estimate as well.

After wood work, I engaged the installer and we agreed 200/sqm as installation fee. He took his measurements, did his calculations and came up with an area of 354sqm to be covered.

Now considering the significant difference between the figures from QS and installer, I decided to go with the installer's figure so as not to incur a huge loss, in case the QS figure was wrong. So I added 25% to installer's estimate and ordered 443sqm, which was made known to installer.

So he did 443sqm initially, and it covered only about 3 quarters of the roof. Installer then calculated the remaining uncovered area, and came up with an additional 150sqm to complete the job. This time though I decided to ignore installer's calculation and went with the original estimate from the QS and got an additional 155sqm to make a total of 598sqm.

The roof was eventually covered with a total of 596sqm, which is in line with the QS estimate.

Now, the installer is insisting his installation fee is 200 × 598 (not even 596 that did the job), while I'm insisting I will only pay for area of roof installed (excluding off-cuts), which should be like 200 × 478 (going by the estimate from QS).

I have told the installer, if he doubts the estimated area from the QS, he can repeat his measurements and calculations, but the guy is saying it will never be the same as that of the QS, that I must pay according to the total area of sheets bought.

Nor be small argument for site today o. We almost came to blows grin



Don't mind him, you pay for the area he covered.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 7:54pm On Jan 14, 2023
sonnie10:

He is the one doing the cut off. It takes labor to do that.
In other words, if my floor is 50sqm and I negotiated 1000/sqm with the tiler but I bought 120sqm tiles, then the tiler used/wasted 118sqm, therefore I should pay him 118000 instead of 50000.....

Yes cutting off takes labour therefore if a tiler sneezes I pay, if he dances I pay, if he wastes my tile I still pay.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 9:29am On Jan 13, 2023
michlins:
and I am telling you that to avoid wasting your own money, for duplex which is usually 22-23ft tall, do 25-26ft tank stand. For two storey which is around 32-35ft tall, do 37ft tank(this is the length of channels today).


But if you think and have funds to throw around, give me your desired height and I will execute
Very correct. If you like carry your tank stand go heaven it will still exert same pressure or a very negligible difference in pressure...

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 6:37pm On Jan 09, 2023
inze:


If you're currently occupying the property I'd go for electric but if not, Barbwire. They have original "barb" at the market.

Because even with barbwire in an unoccupied property, pilfering can take place. Let alone an electric fence that can be bent to gain access.

NB: Seen these 2scenarios first hand, one is personal while the other isn't. My 2cents
I don't believe barb wire deters thieves o
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 8:32pm On Jan 07, 2023
melonsgroup:
Do you have a house/building project at your village this year?

I recommend you do this.

I did this at Itama my village and I was glad.

Get sense and reduce expenses this year.

Good Morning �
Beautiful rubbish....
I can only do this to punish my tenants.

08023488672
Phones / Re: Pls How Much Do U Charge Your Phone in your area by bobkezel(m): 8:26pm On Jan 07, 2023
2saviourfriday9:
Keep a sign on your phone you will still know it
I no fit o, sign or no sign. I don't run out of battery though.
Phones / Re: Pls How Much Do U Charge Your Phone in your area by bobkezel(m): 3:19pm On Jan 07, 2023
Na wao. I have not tried charging my phone in those places though... Imagine leaving a phone of 300k plus in the hands of...... I no fit shout.
Romance / Re: Who Have Slept With A Married Woman by bobkezel(m): 3:13pm On Jan 07, 2023
It's just a pussy like others, no special thing, no curse no glory.
Bleep her if it is mutual.
Bleep her if it is your fetish.
Enjoy your life, yolo

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Travel / Re: Why Do Nigerians Become Less Religious When They Travel Abroad? by bobkezel(m): 7:30pm On Dec 28, 2022
A lot of things you pray to God to provide have been provided by the government.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 7:28pm On Dec 28, 2022
Abbeyb1ack:
A concrete water stanchion or iron...pls what are the disadvantages or advantage...it's for a bungalow with water heater installed
Since it's a bungalow, I would prefer the concrete based on some reasons...
1.. It is cheaper
2... You can convert the space beneath to a store( storage room)
3... If it is close to the street/road you can convert it to shops for rent....
4....converting the beneath to an enclosure/room/shop can serve a lot of purpose
5... The water spillage (whenever the tank is full) can be easier controlled and be channelled for whatever purpose

I case my rest.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 8:30pm On Dec 26, 2022
CivilEngineer90:
DO YOU REALLY THINK UNZEND CAN ACTUALLY BEAT ME TO MY OWN GAME grin grin

If he doesn't credit me he won't get the real drawing with the updated bar calling out cheesy grin

If he checks the drawing it's just 3-16mm both top and bottom grin grin, who does that grin .. the areas needing 20mm I didn't put it. He even asked for an open roof terraced at the top of the building, I did it on the second drawing which is not on the one I sent cheesy
So it's a WIN-WIN

He even wanted a staircase outside the building but the one he has is the first one with the staircase inside and the dinning mirrored on the wrong side hahahaha

I will love to watch unzend beg cheesy grin

The drawings are correct though but it isn't the revised one
Who is the Internet fraudster now? Big foooool

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 3:27pm On Dec 26, 2022
CivilEngineer90:
unzend will ask you to send to site and let them verify it on nairaland. He will insist they fix it first to know if the roof is good or not before payment. Boy o ya werey gan. He paid me 35k still asking for verification before paying the balance of 40k. The person he picked to verify it said it is okay, to be honest I wasn't even expecting the good review because I was thinking doctor who won't be objective but he really won my respect and I have started following him truth will always rule. If not for unzend I would be doing important works but here I am. Children will really drag one to the mud.
You have no important work oga.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 1:41pm On Dec 21, 2022
somehow:


The same one with the highest quote that still ended up eating part of the money with weak pillars falling apart and blocks breaking at the slightest impact?

Shey you dey whine me ni?
I'm not whinning you sir.
There are people that you can only follow their words, but not their actions...
@n3xt is one of those people. He has solutions (good and bad) to every problem. I actually look forward to his inputs, but I will never contract him for any job.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 11:18am On Dec 21, 2022
Godisgreatest1:


Sir, I'm surprised....why are you so 'professional' but yet so 'easily' offended? I can recall you are the first 'professional' to mention me even when my comment wasn't directed at you.

Ok. Sorry for mentioning you after you mentioned me.

Have a nice day Sir.

grin grin grin grin

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 11:09am On Dec 21, 2022
CivilEngineer90:
baba desist from mentioning me or I will insult your family!! I have important things on my mind right now or If you rented a duplex how's that any of my concern.
If you truly have important things on your mind right now you wouldn't be joining issues with people that are jobless.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 11:06am On Dec 21, 2022
Godisgreatest1:


Sir, I was referring to 'cost of building' not 'selling price'.

I have seen the quote of a so-called professional engineer that says 80 bags of cement, I ended up using 40 bags. The Job has finished, so now I am waiting for the building to collapse because it is substandard.

My engineer is registered, attached on contract to a construction company called 'Raffoul' (please google that). He is from the south western part of Nigeria, and i am always ready to drag him to the south south anytime/anyday.

I'm a Christian, his a Muslim, but our love for each other is 'factory-fitted' by our Creator.

'To be sincere'- is a personal decision that is too rare, scarce and limited amongst Nigerians generally.

Those figures mentioned here as the cost of building are FAT LIES. Please do your investigation independent of mine.

Thank you Sir.





Before now, when you see the prices of iron doors and gates here, you would have a HBP.
Not until @michilin came on board and demystified and scattered their kingdom....
If the so called professionals here recommend 100 bags of cement, just budget about 50 bags.
There are some that are very truthful just that they seldom comment here.
But generally this thread is da bomb.
@n3xt is one guy I miss his input here but him too dey phuq up.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 7:14pm On Dec 20, 2022
Born2conquer:
how did you do it? Enlighten us. I haven't been able to start anything since 2020 because I get weak whenever I see the figures
Drink lucozade boost, u no go weak again.
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 7:12pm On Dec 20, 2022
Godisgreatest1:
Before I built my first house I used to be afraid of the exaggerated figures I read for the cost of buildings on this thread. I learnt to start with what I have and I noticed I usually don't spend up to 65% the projected estimate.

Not once,not twice and not thrice.

If I should post the current project I am sure I will read figures above 60 million.
You are very correct cos I can relate...
This thread's inflation rate is outta this world.
If you follow the prices here u go remain homeless...
But on the other side,,,, it is a very insightful, helpful and educative thread.
I pick what I pick, drop what I drop.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 7:07pm On Dec 20, 2022
topsy23:


Lolzz that means with 100k the roofing can be done grin angry grin grin grin angry angry
U get the point now..... That house is cheap.
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 6:29pm On Dec 20, 2022
topsy23:


Buy, rent or lease .. wonders shall never end. Even if you get the sand free , wood free , what of roofing sheets, tye nails etc .. Can you get that roofing less 2m ?

That particular roofing sheet is 1k/sqm. E no cost. I know where you can get it.
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 6:27pm On Dec 20, 2022
somehow:


Alot of men on this thread are too busy and serious to get the sarcastic nature of your comment.
You gerrit. But Life no suppose to hard naaa.

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