₦airaland Forum

NERDYDREAMS:
Oh lord heal our nation

Prayers won't help. You forget that God gave us free will and the power to change what we can. Nigeria's problems are not God's fault but Nigerians. Change how you do business and everything will fall into place. Ever wondered why Americans, who don't believe in God are so prosperous? Food for thought.

Sakes:
"Whatever" can be ANYTHING!!!!
And "Anything" can't be RIGHT!!!!

YOUR STANCE needs to be CONCLUSIVE rather than DISMISSIVE...unless there's DOUBT!!!!

Ever argued with a revolving door? I just did. That's one for the history books.

laudate:
Yeah... the problems are still there, but many folks are still earning a decent living in this country. And thanks for mentioning the gas situation...there are no more long fuel queues in this country. It ended a while ago. Oh, I forgot.... you lost touch with Nigeria years ago. So how would you know?

This is why i like you. So much optimism. You are a rare gem.

https://www.nairaland.com/2656252/fuel-scarcity-osun-state-photo

Like i said. i don't make this shiit up. You all do.

Sakes:
Right??
Am I? Come on....
I can't possibly be.....Not if you still have some doubts.....
You can voice them!!!!

Nope. you are right. Whatever your point is.

laudate:
I told you before that you have a myopic mindset, and with every comment that you utter... you keep proving me right. I forgot to add the word 'warped,' to that description.

My optimism is founded on nothing, but sheer reality. I have lived in the UK as well as a few other foreign countries, and I have also lived in Nigeria. Believe me when I tell you that Nigeria still has a number of goods things, going for it. My neighbour uses the rent from the houses he built in Nigeria, to fund his lifestyle and living expenses in the US. I have heard several people saying it is easier to trade within Nigeria, than abroad and the return on investments are still far better here than in other European countries.

So all your vile epithets you keep recycling about Nigeria has not stopped those who are making a decent living within this country, from doing so. Only those who experienced a deprived childhood within their own country, seek means of escape from it, and never have anything decent to say about it when they finally leave the place. You seem to get a high from launching invectives and cusswords against your country. So here have the floor... and knock yourself out.

Lol.. . . . .Nigeria is really awesome. i can see that all roads are looking good now. Quality healthcare also exist now. Corruption is down and almost non existent. Security is even better now. The cops show up 10 minutes after you call them and the criminals run away as soon as they see them. People also dont build their homes anymore as if they are prison. I also see that power generation is better; everyone has 24 hrs a day power supply. Even the gas situation is wonderful no more long queues at the pumps. Wow, the educational system has been overhauled and there actually quality facilities for a conducive learning experience in Nigeria. You know what? forgive me. I now see why you are optimistic. My bad.

laudate:
Do you earn money for every vile epithet you spew out about your country? So to you, Nigeria is a 'cesspool??' And no one else is allowed to have a different opinion, without you questioning their Nigerian identity? Okay,o! Your clueless mindset has just entered the next level.

I live in Nigeria unlike you, and I can see what took place in the past, what is currently happening and the plans in the pipeline for the future. On the contrary, you are the one with a thoroughly negative mindset who does not have any grasp about what is currently going on, in different sectors of the country.

Like I stated earlier, Nigeria has its shortcomings but I will not denigrate my country in order to feel good like you are busy doing. If you dislike my optimism, hug the nearest transformer. How old did you say you were, by the way??

Lol. . .it's good to have optimism but be realistic about what you are optimistic about. There are no signs that the country is going nowhere but in circles. But, you see change when there is none. You need not look further than the front page of NL to see how phucked the country is. I don't make the headlines, you'all do. Stu.pid shiit that shouldn't be happening is absolutely normal to you'all. I say again, change your mentality and then you can start being optimistic. A goat wears shoes, optimistic he won't be seen as a goat. Optimism does not change reality.

laudate:
Hear we go again. Please go back and re-read your initial post before coming back here to rant. You were the one pouring scorn on Nigeria because of your claims about the lack of a pension scheme, lack of jobs or owning a car after graduation. And my response to you, was that it was not always like that and the state of affairs in the sixties and seventies, were far better than what it is today. So contrary to your statement, nobody is living in denial .

Am a full-blooded Nigerian and I carry my green passport with pride. And I will be the first to admit that a lot of things in Nigeria need improvement. But I will not destroy my country or talk trash about it, in order to feel good with myself the way you have been doing. Neither will I drag its name in the mud, because of some perceived shortcomings.

Does speaking the truth, mean having to denigrate your country?? In one of your earlier posts, you claimed: " The rot in the country today has been going on since independence." Later you said: " i can tell you for a fact, Nigeria has always been crap." You are the one with a skewed mentality here, and it is so sad to see that the myopia through which you view your own country, has clouded your sense of judgement. I am yet to meet an American outside the US, talking trash about their country. They often refer to it as 'God's own country', making you believe it is the greatest nation on earth, despite all the problems they have over there. Tell me, are they living in denial as well?

The only reason i asked if you were a Nigerian is because you seem not to know that the country you live in has been a cesspool since inception. If you were a true Nigerian you would have known that. There is a difference between realizing what is and hoping for what can be. If you don't have the true grasp of what is then how do you move on. You need to wake up to reality.

debolly:
I bought quaker oats & blended it to powder.
After which I boiled water & prepared it just like wheat.

Does it have an after taste like banku?

Why does that award beside yemi alade look like a dil.do?

laudate:
If you expect me to swallow your myopic hatred of Nigeria as part of the lessons you are teaching, then sorry... I will gladly pass on that one. I have read your rants and there is nothing worthy of 'teaching' in any part of it, or any cogent objective facts in it, that can be taught. Your insults how how shallow your mind has become.

Last word: Am not sensitive to anything, I just hate it when misguided rhetoric, hate-mongering, childish rants and myopic views are peddled as truth, like you have done.

You sure you are Nigerian? So, speaking the truth is hate mongering. Right. Got it. This is another bane of Nigerians; living in denial. Admit that the foundations the country was built on was and is flawed, change the way you'all think, and finally chart a realistic course for change in the future. Living in denial is counter productive. All it does is hold you back. Reminiscing for a time that never existed is sad to say the least. I somehow feel sorry for you. Damn, what a pity.

laudate:
I do not consider having a retirement fund as "flaunting" anything, but the way you alluded to it to denigrate Nigeria and trample upon everything connected to it, is what I refer to as "flaunting.".

The pension fund system has been reformed and is even presently undergoing further reforms in Nigeria, as we speak. I have a pension plan, too. So what is the big deal? In your myopic warped view, the lack of a functional pension system, is what qualifies you to pour scorn on Nigeria. I truly pity you. You alluded to driving a car, as a miracle. Nobody has said that here, but I guess in your own small mind....it is truly a miracle, which is why you made reference to it.

Finally you said that; "Owning or paying mortgage is crazy or impossible and getting a job as soon as you graduate a miracle.". In the past, it was not a miracle. Obviously, you do not have elders that graduated from Nigerian universities in the 60s to late 70s. During that time, employers chased fresh graduates from universities with jobs and getting a car loan was almost automatic.

My older relatives and elderly friends who are accomplished professionals working in different parts of the world as well as within the country, showed me evidence of the good life they had in that era, which is why till date a lot of them remain grateful to Nigeria for the good start they had in life.

Then why were you so sensitive to my example of it? if anything you should be thanking me for teaching you something you never any idea off. Let me guess you are going to come back and say you knew. Right? Lol. . . .

laudate:
Please return your self-hate into your pocket! Some of you never see anything good in Nigeria because of your myopic mindset and jaundiced view. Nigeria was not always crap. Even the UK and US you mentioned have their own failings and share of woes.

And stop flaunting your retirement funds. No one asked you for it, and nobody is interested in it!

Lol.. .if you consider a person talking about a retirement fund "flaunting", then i really pity you. Retirement is a normal topic as normal as breathing. Who lives today without a retirement plan? I sometimes forget who i'm talking to. I forget i'm talking to people who think driving a car is a big deal, having a retirement plan is "flaunting", Owning or paying mortgage is crazy or impossible and getting a job as soon as you graduate a miracle. To me, it's not "showing off", it's "normal". There are no big boys here because everyone has the same thing. I spent a better part of my life in Nigeria and i realized that the bane of Nigeria is not corruption but it's mentality. It's just too phucked up for any change to happen as evidenced from the above post.

laudate:
If Fela had been alive now, his songs would have been more critical. Are Fela's songs the only yardstick for measuring the state of the economy in Nigeria?? Or was Fela the sole authority on the Nigerian condition? Trust me, Nigeria had golden years. Talk to your elders who were graduates at that time, and let them share their stories with you. Then, compare what they had, with what we have today!

In 1991, as a youngster I still remember buying an economy class return ticket with 12,000 naira to the UK on British Airways!

In the 1960's in the U.S, bread was 20 cents, today it's 2 dollars, depending on what kind you buy. That's a huge difference considering we still spend our cents today. A gallon of gas was 25 cents, today we buy as high as 3 or 4 dollars a gallon at the pump but we hardly feel it that much. Why? it's called adjustment to inflation. What Nigerians don't understand is there will always be inflation, what you do is you adjust to that inflation. That is what i do and that is what the american government does. This is why americans don't feel inflation too much. I already know that my retirement funds will not hold the same value it would today, so i am already adjusting the way i save towards it. And, no need to ask anyone, i can tell you for a fact, Nigeria was always crap. Growing up we'd never had power for a week straight. Roads were always crap; don't think it just started today. Police and Soldiers had always used civilians for target practice as is today. And the worst part is the Nigerian way of thinking has not changed from then till now. If it had, things would have changed, wouldn't it?

neoapocalypse:
Rockefeller is the richest man in modern times as a single individual , no single Rothschild has the amount of money Rockefeller has , combined together all the Rothschild may have been richer than John . D . Rockefeller but no single Rothschild was as rich as him. Now here's a fun fact for you , Mansa Musa was regarded as the richest man to have ever lived , he lived in the 14th century and came from Mali.

I think you got it wrong. Rockefeller was localized in his fortunes. The rothschild family fortunes is inbedded in every economy of significance in the world. Those guys are scaringly rich. People say the are the illuminati. Not members but are the organization.

shizzy7:
Nothing here is my opinion,, Google most powerful black men in the world and read about reasons why he's the 2nd..

About Poverty talk to the government before talking to dangote..,,check his companies CSR before forming an opinion...

Just checked again. Just so i'd know i wasn't crazy. Google refers to the RICHEST black person, not the most powerful. When anyone is the most powerful in the world, it means his influence transfers to everyone in the world. The person is easily recognizable to almost every living person, which is why michael jackson was on that list at one time which is understandable. And, Obama being on it is also understandable. When Obama coughs, the world listens. The only people that really recognize dangote or feel his impact are his employees and a few Nigerians. Most powerful black man? i think not. He's not even the most powerful in Nigeria not to talk of the world. Tinubu is more powerful than him. Tinubu's impact, good or bad, can be felt by all Nigerians. Buhari is one of his impacts.

uboma:
From the late 70s up to the early 80s were Nigerian's golden years.

There were no hassles securing visas to other countries. We even had the Brits and other foreigners flocking into Nigeria to secure employments in our universities.

As a citizen of the country, upon graduation from the university, a brand new car + accomodation + employment was provided by the govt.

We were the envy of other countries. But the tables has turned around and NGN 1 equals to USD220 now. There's no employment for graduates now. the list is endless and no need recounting them (to avoid emotional breakdown).

Just recently, I was shocked to hear that the govt of Ghana still provides a car and accomodation to graduates of medicine and nursing. About 2 months back, I sent NGN100,000.00 to Ghana and after the transfer via Access Bank, I discovered that the equivalent in Ghana Cedis was just one thousand and a few hundreds to my NGN100,000.00.

Our leaders have sucked Nigeria dry. Will Nigeria attain her golden era again remains to be seen.

Hmmmmmmmm!

Really? Fela's songs were released from the late 60's. And listening to it now, you would think he was still alive and the songs were released yesterday. Nigeria never had golden years. The rot in the country today has been going on since independence.

Sakes:
What exactly makes a nation a Recognised MONARCHY? KINGDOM
Natural Heritage?? Institutional Consolidation? Or Recognition by other Nations Is Control over its people a factor?



Are you saying he should have INSTITUTIONALIZE his STATUS as a MONARCHY like SAUDI ARABIA, nobody is born a KING remember or you think otherwise?
What EXACTLY IS YOUR understanding of the HISTORY of RULERSHIP

Well, I have to detail these as you did not seem to understand my former response.....

To GIVE a better view of the matter:

You may have to answer this in the light of what DICTATORSHIP is and WHAT it is NOT as it concerns SAUDI ARABIA & SYRIA?
Does the Status of one exclude it from being less Dictatorial on its people.....

What exactly is your understanding of Dictatorship?

Your ANSWER will help me clarify the supposed REVOLUTION in SYRIA in the Light of existing facts....Pls don't answer off these points... I prefer you be direct rather than referential!!!!! to avoid the confusion.....My Confusion perhaps.....
But, an understanding of this internal distaste is necessary....

Lol. . . ..Saudi arabia has always had the system of government they have now. Syria claims to be democratic but only one family has ruled for half a century. You know what? you are right. Whatever your point is, you are right.

Missfads:
am really really laughing out loud. LDMMWMP. Laff don make me wake my parent. Pls how can I save?...m finding it difficult to do.

Just 10% of your income in a bank every month and you'll be rich in twenty years.

debolly:
I have been craving for this maybe because I haven't eaten solid in months.....
Vegetable stew with oat meal

how did you make the oatmeal?

shizzy7:
Most Powerful black man in the world -
Barrack Obama
2nd most powerful Black man in the world
Aliko Dangote
When Obama steps down.......hhhuuuu

Dangote being the 2nd most powerful black man, is that your opinion or just fact. Where does his influence extend to, other than in Nigeria and a few other african countries where poverty prevails? Money does not necesarilly mean power you know. If that is the case, then one can make the same argument for Oprah winfrey.

shumuel:
...

Imagine a barber saying "come and cut your head here". No thanks.

Sakes:
You mean that they clamoured for change even with the Democractic reforms that brought ASSAD to Power...... How can that not be Change?
How exactly is this worse off in character & consequence; than SAUDI-ARABIA in the light of your former comment....?Remember you said something about Family appointments.... & a rigid approach to rule!!!! The facts in these should have been clearly consistent... with other Dictatorships....

Is the UK a KINGDOM?? or more than that?

Guy, what is this? are you arguing for the sake of it? you asked me assad's atrocities and i've told you. You went to school i presume and must have been taught that absolute power corrupts absolutely. why you would think that one family, holding on to power for almost 50 years is ok confounds me. That being said, I have also told you that it is preferable for Arabs to be led by dictators. They only understand barbaric rule. The U.K is not a monarchical kingdom because they are democratic politically. I wonder why you would bring this up? it has nothing to do with what we are talking about. The royal family is a ceremonial one with no powers whatsoever. If i have to explain this to you then i begin to wonder. 'nuff said.

Sakes:
Does that also go for the BRITISH & SAUDI MONARCHY, even the ETHIOPIAN Sovereign ?
I need to clarify these!!!!

There's a difference. As you said, Saudi Arabia is a recognised Kingdom with a monarchical system of government. The Assad family is not a monarchy and syria is not a kingdom, which is why the people were clamouring for changes. They had political parties which were basically useless. I knew you'd bring that up and I was ready for it.

Sakes:
Quite as bad as it seem....One may choose to ask by way of Contest how that is different from any Politically motivated attack( directly or Indirectly) around the world...

Saddam was bad enough with Tribalism...
But are there specific instances to prove ASSAD'S excesses before the Conflict??

Its online. You can check how long Assad's family has been in power. And also check who holds vital positions in his cabinet. If that's not bad, i wonder what is. They held onto power with a harsh fist and cut down anyone who opposed them. You can't stay in power that long without a lot of blood on your hands.

Sakes:
You don't mean it...... How do you know that

Key facts is always useful to me!!!! So our stance will be Solid....



And what's with the SAUDIs

Wait. You are serious you don't know that saddam used to exterminate his own people? That, I have personally seen first hand with his mass graves. Assad alienated anyone not from his tribe and killed whoever had a dissenting voice. In the early stages of the war he used chemical agents on his own people.

What the phuck is this?

You don't want to be divisive? Then shut the phuck up.

tundebaba234:
Only brainwashed people wanna go to america. When they get there they will realize that the grass is always greener on the other side until they get there and find out it is mirage. 62% of americans are one paycheck away from living on the street and cant raise a merely $500-$1000 in an emergency or a hospital visit. U are one of such dumb folk, u better wake up to reality....oh I forgot, waking up is not part of the american dream.

Haba bro's. Comment on issues you have a fair amount of knowledge about na. Don't just argue for the sake of it. People are on welfare because they are lazy as hell and want to be on it. There are so many jobs out there it's mind boggling. People just don't want to work because democrats are cuddling them. Stop the welfare checks and they will. And that is the reality. And remember, If things were that bad as you claim, the government won't be able to afford welfare checks in the first place. Person wey broke fit afford to give another person money?

all4naija:
Nigerians are some of the most ignorant people on the planet. Russia is aggressive, arrogant and fighting for recognition its lost when it's former USSR.

Gbam!!!!

princfred:
So much hate for America yet all you will sell all they have here to go there. That's why they will vote in trump to chase all of them haters home.

God forbid. Bro's, stop that rough play. Trump will never be president in Jesus Name. Amen. I am a staunch republican and i hate the democrats with a passion, but the Republicans always make things too easy for democrats by fielding weirdos for candidates for the presidency.

clemz85:
you are much enlightened,
I think that why America use M16 more

No. The M16 is being gradually phased out. Only initial entry soldiers use it more (basic training soldiers). The regular military are being issued the M4 gradually.

princejayboss:
Am not smoking nothing.... Follow up my comments on Nairaland you will see am not your match ..... Is not about economy.... We are talking military might..... Bro I worked in Russia facility for a while .... This Russians can deliver a nuclear warhead to the US in 28mins...... But remember another nuclear weapon on our planet earth... Will invite some unwanted guest we can not handle

And the U.s can deploy theirs that fast? This should not even be a point of discussion because any country with a nuclear weapon will not engage another that has one as well. It will end in a stalemate.