₦airaland Forum

dapsonlou:
Thunderbolt strike you for that comments, no one deserves to die unless the kill. Drugs was legal before.

Spoken like a true drug dealer.

mulattoclaro:
When will the igbos stop giving us a bad name with their criminal activities in diaspora? The igbos are indeed the criminal class of Nigeria. Mind you anyone that would want to quote me, I'm not Yoruba.

Keep deceiving yourselves. Do you think the outside world knows who's igbo and who's not? As far as they are concerned, they are all Nigerians.

Darn it. I was gonna upgrade to Samsung galaxy 4 in the summer, looks like i might give this phone a try. Looks awesome and the concept is a blast.

prevail23:
stewpid excuse
hope dat gun isn't loaded sha

I think he gave a good reason. It is along the same line of reasoning those hoodlums gave when they attacked aero's offices. They were both fed up with the system so they decided to go outside the law to solve their problems. cc invertedhammer

InvertedHammer:
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I wonder how one is expected to maintain their sanity when faced with this kind of stress you went through.

It is like paying money to be psychologically molested because you patronized a business.

It is a lot easier for people to sit in the comfort of their homes and type away nonsense just to win an argument.

You didn't have to go through all that. A simple explanation and apology would have made some difference in your ordeal.

But not in Bollinger's world. He would rather have you shut up and stop complaining.

He was here arguing about civilization when the folks you are dealing with act like savages.

I wish I can apologize on their behalf.

Remain blessed.
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The same way you are rationalizing your insanity is the same way south africans are rationalizing theirs. To them, since the system has failed them, then they have every right to xenophobia, just as you have every right to attack aero for not providing quality customer service since the system has failed you too. Again i have to repeat that i can't believe i am explaining to supposed grown ups, about why taking the law into ones hands is wrong. The psychological makeup of the average Nigerian is frightening.

Beamborla:
That's all for now

Jesus! there actually are two of you? what are the odds?

Beamborla:
Oya kneel down and raise that stool close to you up.
Don't forget to close your eyes and leave your mouth open.

Ok. . .what else?

I'm moving to australia

nedu2000:
I've worn glasses for well over a decade,it started with 3 diopter of short-sightedness(-3)from which it got worse (-6) by 1999,it has remained so ever since.It hasn't been easy and I sure would like to see the world in HD in my lifetime and not this'. 'NTA' standard my eyes offer.
My Perils include:

1)SPORTING DRAWBACK: if you think zinedine Zidane,Eden Hazard,leo Messi are the most creative footballers then you've never seen me play,but with my eyesight I had to cool down on my football career.Infact in my University days I rarely get chosen in teams

2)ROMANTIC DRAWBACKS: There were times a got a 'moment' with some hot chics and as I was closing in for a french kiss my glasses sets up a awkward moment instead and my chance is gone! The glasses also give me this "he's cute but he's not man enough since he wears glasses!!" from girls.

3 )DOMESTIC/EVERYDAY CHALLENGES: I can't fall asleep swiftly without looking for a means to drop my glasses somewhere,if I use contacts my sparkling eyes turn red the next day,if it's raining/foggy my glasses becomes completely misty and unlike windshields,spectacles don't come with wipers

4)MISCELLAENOUS: job opportunities-i studied civil engineer but I have fewer opportunities to prove myself as a good site engineer due to stereotypes

* intimidation- I was driving around Orile in Lagos when one lanky dude tried extorting money from me,merely because he felt I was weak/gentle not until I broke his nose did he realise I wasn't weak, had to spend N2500 on his treatment

Nairalanders please is there any sort cure for shortsightedness? I heard of many side-effects in relation to the laser option!

I can't believe i have to explain this;

Point 1. Ever heard of Lasik or PRK?

Point 2. Seriously? you missed a romantic moment because of glasses. If you have to wear glasses to kiss a lady then you are blind.

Point 3. You probably bought your glasses under the bridge at ojuelegba. Prescribed glasses meant for only you should not be uncomfortable. I wear glasses, so i know.

Point 4. Now i know this is MOD story. It's all made up.

Point 5. More confirmation that it's a MOD story.

Lero15:
We have so many higher institutions in Nigeria now….and the number increases almost every year. This is good, but studying a course for 4 years and above, especially most non-professional courses is what bothers me. PS: I am not advising or discouraging anyone to go abroad to study.
Here are my reasons:
1. Other countries: Top countries especially in Asia and Europe, even in Africa don’t use up to 4 years for a degree. Within 5 years or less, one can have his first Degree and Masters abroad. Our polytechnics don’t make things easy these days…after OND, one year of industrial attachment (most people now do theirs in their homes…no placement) you still do “post UME” for HND admission in the same school!

2. You may not practice: Now this is rampant in Nigeria…blame it on economic condition, peer pressure, parent’s will over yours and so on. So many undergraduates are studying that particular course because that is what the school “wants” for them. So, their mindset is “let me just finish this course and find better things to do with my life”. I have two medical doctor friends, one has dropped his stethoscope for the financial sector, the other one is practicing but says he will divert soon…AFTER SEVEN YEARS?!!!

3. Jack of all Trade: One of the major reasons why it takes us donkey years to get a degree in Nigeria is this!!! Your first year in school, you do all irrelevant courses. You will probably do your main specialty in your semi-finals or final year. This is a big time-waster. Why not face your course and get better with it. Jack of all trade, master of none.

4. Graduate Trainee Jobs: If you think you are studying a course that is not marketable in Nigeria, don’t worry much. As long as you are young and you have good grades, you will be fine. Big companies, most especially in the financial sector, oil and gas, and foods and manufacturing firms train their new intakes for weeks or months. Your job roles may not be relevant with your course of study, though.
Then why spend 4/5 years when u will still be trained?

5. ALMIGHTY STRIKE : Some courses slated for 4 years will turn to 7 years…no thanks to endless strikes. Chaos in school, government owing lecturers, etc… This is so appalling. Coupled with the fact that you will still serve the nation for a year, that makes it 8. That wouldn’t be nice if you started school in your twenties, would it?

This may sound subjective, but the truth be told. Spending so many years for a course is not a good sign for a developing country like Nigeria. Some lecturers just give you the same old note they used during their tenure in school. If the number of years cannot be altered, then let the educational sector be improved. There is so much “La cram La Pour” in Nigerian schools today.

As it applies in America.

Point 1. 4 years is the norm in America

Point 2. I know 5 people who studied General Studies and work in occupations that range from banking to hotel management.

Point 3. It's called common core.

Point 4. You spend 4/5 years in order for your would be employer to be sure you can be trained. They need to know you have the foundation.

InvertedHammer:
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You continue to tap-dance around the issue.

First thing first, blame the airline. But you chose to carry on as if the airline is not culpable. You make it seem as if the airline staff were minding their business and some random folks walked up and beat them up.

It is called Customer service not customer servitude.
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What issue. That it is ok to justify your actions by whatever means? that's never going to happen.

InvertedHammer:
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There are a lot of injustices in the world.
Why do good people die? Why are Blacks treated with disdain? Why does God allow some bad things to happen to his people? Why? Why? Why?

You have to narrow it down. An airline took people's money, refused to fulfill their contractual obligations, kept.them waiting for more than 3 hrs without sending someone to explain what was going on and how they intend to ameliorate the situation. Like I said earlier, a simple explanation would have averted this problem.

An explanation that included scarcity of Jet-A1, apology and plan to refund all fares would have solved the situation. Heck. The weather was hot. The least the airline could have done was pass around complementary bottled water. A little thing goes a long way.

You don't.need a fancy degree to.manage a.Business well. Common sense.goes a long way.
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You are still buttressing my point. The end never justifies the means. If we all rationalize all of our actions, the world will be a very dangerous place. If a man steals from you tomorrow and in his escape shoots one of your siblings (God forbid) and he is caught, and he starts lamenting about how he had to because there is no job and he has to feed his family, would you listen. Does the fact that he has to feed his family justify his actions for stealing?

There is joke i once heard. There was a riot in town and this young man decided to join in. He saw this nice 2015 BMW driving towards him and he stops the car, beats up the owner saying, "you are one of the people stealing our money. It is my turn today". He jumps into the BMW and drives away, very pleased with himself. About a mile down the road, there is another group of rioters. They stop the car, pull him out, beat him up while saying "you are one of the people stealing our money. It is our turn today".

It never advisable to take the law into one's hands.

InvertedHammer:
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I am trying to come to terms with how xenophobia is tied to outright stealing by a company in your face and the same company turns around to surreptitiously tell customers to go fvck themselves. We can argue back and forth all day. We may end up boring other for forumites.
I find it appalling that in all your submissions, you never condemned the action of the airline. You are quick to blame those who had the audacity to say "enough is enough".
By the way, I prefer Kimber1911 to Glock.
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If you ask an average South African why he is attacking fellow Africans he would tell you that he is fed up with other africans especially Nigerians, stealing their jobs, women, etc. If you ask one of the people who went on rampage at aero, he/she will tell you that they are fed up with aero taking them for granted. Do you see the similarities? In both situations, they took the law into their own hands. If you can condemn south africa, why can't you condemn those that went nuts at aero. So, it's not ok for south africans to take the law into their own hands but it's ok for Nigerians to do so?

Beamborla:
1. I'm not a guy
2. I'm no fan of harry porter
3. Who clicked that like?

I did. ..what of it?

Beamborla:
1. I'm not a guy
2. I'm no fan of harry porter
3. Who clicked that like?

I did. ..what of it?

InvertedHammer:
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Both of us acknowledged that the system is bad.
The question is: How do you assert your rights in a broken system where the judiciary and executives are highly compromised? You advocated that they follow it the civilized way. Well civilized way doesn't work in Nigeria and even in some cases in civilized society. E.g.. Baltimore riots that made the authorities prosecute the police officers. If the people of Baltimore had decided to go to court and call it business as usual, those officers would have walked. But when the city burned, the media got involved and the Fed sat up to their responsibilities.

Aero contractors Ltd. is a private company that carries on like they own people's money. You can take them to court, the case will last for three years. And you may end up losing the case bc of Nigerian factors. They know it. But just the thought of seeing their airplanes in flames will make them do business the right way or fold up. They know the right things to do. They just chose not to do it because there are no repercussions.
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Thank you for being the bigger person in starting a normal discuss. Realize this, an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. I am also glad you mentioned Baltimore. We are facing a crisis of our own over here. Our crisis is the scourge of Liberals, lazy black people and the unfanthomable mistake of electing the first black president. It is a mistake that will forever hunt Americans. Granted all policemen are not saints but hooliganism has multiplied since Obama came into power. All that will change in the next election. The liberal democrats will not find it as easy to con us into voting for them again. You can already smell the change. Republicans swept the house in the last elections and the momentum will continue. This is my point. You hold elected representatives responsible, not private individuals and businesses. Just because we have more black thugs over here, does not mean i should pull out my Glock 42 and go about gunning down every black thug who destroys my property. Trust me, if the law abiding citizens of Baltimore wanted to, they could have started shooting down all the rioters. But what did they do? they let the authorities handle it because that is what normal people do. Did you criticize south africa for their xenophobia? Well guess what? What those people did to aero is the same thing south africans are doing, which is taking the law into their own hands just because they are frustrated with the system.

notoriousbabe:
kiss my ass,its big enof for you

1. You are a frustrated spinster with no hope of a normal life.

2. You are angry that all hope is lost. Good. We need more info. . . .

3. More angry than we imagined. . . .you are doing well. Please continue.

StOla:
I would conclude you don't live in Nigeria, hence your idealistic calmness.

In the reality that Nigeria offers, the only way to fight for your rights is to actually "fight".

I'll give you an instance.
A certain dude went to a customer service centre of a mobile network provider. Dude calmly presents his case and was treated with levity. Dude goes outside and re-park his car in a way that obstructs every other car parked in the premises. In due time a storm gathers, but dude did not budge till he gets his issue resolved.
The situation attracts the who is who of the customer service centre, who then promise to resolve the complaint tendered by the dude. Minutes later, problem is resolved and service has been provided at the cost of knowing your rights and fighting for it, even if you had to grab the provider by the balls.

This is how you get things done in Nigeria. Not some litigation suit that would gain no traction within a judicial system that is yet to prosecute armed robbery successfully after 5yrs.

Again; I can't believe that i have to explain to a multitude of people why it is wrong to take laws into their own hands. It's like me trying to explain to a child that it is wrong to steal just because you are hungry. Un-freaking-believable. The same excuse a child would use for stealing because he/she is hungry is the same excuse you have just given. In your mind, the end justifies the means, always.

notoriousbabe:
You didn't fall out of the stopid tree. You got druged through dumbass forest.

1. You are a frustrated spinster with no hope of a normal life.

2. You are angry that all hope is lost. Good. We need more info. . . .

StOla:
You need to re-read the comment you discredited.

If you still find it to be insane, then you must be one of the lousy service providers in Nigeria who refuse to accept that the customer who has paid for a service is king and not a peasant.

I can't believe that i have to explain to a multitude of people why it is wrong to take laws into their own hands. It's like me trying to explain to a child that it is wrong to steal just because you are hungry. Un-freaking-believable.

notoriousbabe:
get the fok off my front,do you think everyone is so crazy of getting married like you?to you marriage is the ultimate in life,you must be a fool,there are other better things in life than marriage. You are in no posiion to judge me,so go fok yourself

Lol. we are getting to know you better.

1. You are a frustrated spinster with no hope of a normal life. More info please. . . . .

phineas:
If this report is true the perpetuators of that ugly situation should all be picked and prosecuted,assuming the CCTV camera is working.

NCAA sent out a memo to passengers on what constitutes an offence by the airlines and the proper way to address it.

The passengers could have reported to NCAA at the airport,they could have sued aero they had other options to manage this but resorted to violence at an airport.... they should be picked to set examples.

Good luck with that. You are preaching to a mob. They don't care that there are other means of solving a problem. Their base instincts kicks in anytime there is a problem because that is all they have ever known. And they want change, forgetting that change comes from each individual. I used to think Republicans were crazy; not anymore.

notoriousbabe:
how dat one take concern you?you no holy pass me,so park well jo. If you dare quote me again,I bet you,you will hate yourself. Arant nonsense

More proof.

notoriousbabe:
Omo see menstrual blood of one of their female staff for ground,no be small thing o,but it serves dem right,Aero contractor staff head no dey correct at all,I hate dem with passion

And someone will make this one a wife one day; pity.

InvertedHammer:
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I think your biggest problem is that you are under the delusion that the same system you referred to as abnormal is operating on the same level of USA and Britain. Are Americans owed salaries in arrears? Their bills are itemized so you know what you are paying for. I have missed a couple of flights here and the airlines will give you free shuttle and accommodation if the fault is from their end. Most importantly, you can talk to the staff and get polite updates even if the flight is cancelled.
Defending the anomalies in Nigeria is a journey you can never finish. Do you have fuel?
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Are you 12? you are talking about now, when they have solved majority of their problems. The point is, at one time, they had governmental and social issues and they took the fight to the government, not private business. At the end of the day, your argument will still lead to my initial point of Nigeria's government"s inability to impose confidence in it's legal system which in turn forces it's masses to result to jungle justice. And where in my posts have i defended the anomalies in Nigeria as you put. You are defending your base instincts while i am pointing to the reasons why you are forced to result to it and why it is wrong. Just so we are clear.

GodMode:
All this essay you're writing is rubbish... Nigerians are too tolerant now that they are getting intolerant you're crying fowl....

If naija continues like this then very soon, politics will be about performance and not stomach infrastructure..

Cos the people will soon start attacking politicians...

And one day, this guy would probably say "you know what? i am going into politics. I wanna change things" How does a thug, who knows only thurgry, change things? (if i may use that word) You are confusing revolution with thugry. When the british were making it difficult for the masses in Old America by collecting unfair taxes, the people did not go after the tax collectors, they went after the government. This goes for you too invertedhammer.

InvertedHammer:
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Why I like weasels like you is that I can effectively shove the truth down your throat.

Coward!

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It is obvious i have to break it down barney style for you to understand. When jungle justice is the norm of a society, it means no one, and i mean no one is safe. I wonder what your reaction would be if it were your brother's blood on the floor in that picture? Obviously, from your mindset, you would bring more hoodlums to arik the next day to vent your madness on whoever. Anyone hurt in your vengeful spree would bring his own and it goes on and on. In your own words you have said Nigeria is not a normal society, which is why Nigerians behave like animals, but does it make it right? Your psychological makeup is in line with the reason Nigeria is stagnant at the moment. Imagine fifty million people with the same mentality; there will never be progress. You must try to resist your base instincts. Your survival depends on it. And to think fifteen m.oron.s liked your original post. That is a decent number as regards nairaland. Nigerians are in trouble, and they don't even realize the extent to which they are.

InvertedHammer:
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I am glad that you acknowledged that Nigeria is not a normal society. Most importantly, you found the system culpable.

And your omniscient Highness wants to apply the rules of sane societies to an abnormal society. Who is the fool now?

If there is no fuel, cancel the flight ahead of time, send bulk texts to intending passengers with apology and refund the fares. No! Airline operators want to cancel flights, retain the fares and throw rude staff in your face when you complain. And still your omniscient Highness wants people to gather around, blow some grammar and call it a day.

Nigeria remains the way it is because of people like you. Oh! I know your type. You will go home and beckon on God to fight for you in a case you could easily sort out yourself.

Next time, Aero staff will not be there. And when the trend continues, Aero will close shop. Business is about service delivery and not to rip customers off.

There you have it.
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The rationalization of the insane.

InvertedHammer:
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No!

This is the best approach.
Nigerians don't pay attention to word of mouth.
Break a couple of heads, you will get some result immediately.

I don't think the passengers became unruly all of a sudden. They must have been asking questions that were met with nonchalant responses before things degenerated to this level.

Maybe next time they should ignite the airplane.
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Sad. The reason Nigerians result to jungle justice is because of the country's inability to impose confidence in it's legal system. In normal societies those people would be ecstatic that this happened because lawsuits would flow like water which in turn would mean millionaires would be made overnight. The system has turned Nigerians to beastly animals like the above poster.

babadee1:
The reason Nigeria still remains the same is because people like you have already given up on your country. Nigeria has immense resources and a great deal of potential, especially in terms of human capital. In one generation this country is going to be transformed into a true economic power house. Nigeria is the number one destination for foreign direct investment on the African continent and has one of the fastest growing economies in the world. Nigerians are extremely smart and innovative. They are the most highly educated and skilled immigrant group in the United States. The only problem Nigeria has is poor leadership and a lack of planning, look for that to change in the coming years.

Imagine Nigeria is a huge mega church. The foundation of worldly christianity is hope. The hope that it will be better tomorrow while one's circumstance remain the same. The pastor/president will tell the congregation/citizens what they want to hear in other to get what he/she wants. Usually, based on the laws of statistics one or two people in the congregation/populace will succeed and those people will be used as examples of how whatever they are preaching works. This in turn galvanizes the rest to hang on to that false hope forever. You can hope for as long as you want, but if you don't change the way you operate, you will be in perpetual bondage forever. I grant you that Nigeria has immense resources and other countries are investing in Nigeria. But answer me this; how has that improved the circumstance of the average Nigerian. You have more investments, but the poor keeps getting poorer. There is a shortage of fuel right now in the country; how do you reconcile that with the "fastest growing economy in Africa?" All this is not new. This has been going on for decades and i keep hearing the same thing. "in a few years, Nigeria will change". False hope. Until you all change the way you do business nothing will change. Like, demanding to know, in a logical fashion, how promises will be made reality, not after an aspirant make president, but before.

babadee1:
Your words do not stand up to scrutiny. Nigerians are not more dumb or less politically savvy than people from any other nation in the world. If you are a Nigerian then the shame is yours alone. The fact that you would even make such sweeping statements about your country without any concrete or objective basis already reveals the limitations of your own personal intellect and low self esteem. The problem is yours my friend.

See; the reason why , Nigeria is still the same.

babadee1:
Proven statistically by who? Where was the research done and in which journal was it published? Do you think politicians don't make ridiculous promises in other countries of the world? Judging by your list you are the dumb type who gives Nigeria a bad name.

Proven by decades of bad leadership and by you. The fact that you cannot reflect on my words proves how far gone Nigerians really are. You are that type of person who compares himself to failures of others. I am not asking explain all but at least some for God's sake. I might as well make a promise of my own. I will give every Nigerian 1 million per day forever if made president in the next election. "how will i fund it you say" We'll cross that bridge when we get there. I don't have to go out of my way to give Nigeria a bad name; you all are doing fine in that aspect.