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Cutehector4u:
Well until you have confirmed the story by seeing a member wearing the apron in public , apart frm church service, den this is considered null....

Many wear it about. I have witness a member where it on our flight from Lagos to Abuja.

McSterling:
That is what poverty and neglect can do to a people's psyche.

Exactly.

McSterling:
Lol...wetin person no go hear?

This thread was opened and designed to promote the falsehood of one servant vic and his co-workers and employee and even himself have been filling it with lies. What is painful about this thread is that is concerns expecting mothers, or women who seriously want to get pregnant or men with fertility issues.

When they see this thread because of their present situation they feel there is hope drinking a bottle of water branded as blessing/holy water (crap) or attending endless deliverance session (where you pay offerings, tithes and other donations).

They claimed servant vic does not require prospective members to pay a fee - a gimmicks to lure members to attend his session. I read on a thread that he is a cleaner in Oyedepo's church (a huge red-flag).

People should stop the nonsense of visiting people who claim to be miracle workers rather than visit the actual miracle workers - which is HOSPITAL.

PastorKun:
On the contrary, it would make it more difficult for him to pay oooo! It costs a lot of money to host pastor chris and his entourage, it would definitely affect Joagbaje's cash flow.

Oh please I was joking about Pastor Chris being in Bayelsa. Well, I know joagbaje is reading this probably as a guest. He is hibernating. On a serious note, he needs to be called to make that payment.

Nobody forced him to make the statement. He was just so convinced and proud. See what his mouth has costed him.

Joe, running away cannot help you. You need to pay and as soon as possible. Payment is not to redeem your image/reputation oh. That image is dead, buried and gone.

Link pls

Na today. E don tey. Spiritual Fraudster

WinsomeX:
SirJohn, please what's happening to the money? Is Joagbaje refusing to pay up or what?

Pastor Chris is in Bayelsa

McSterling:
What are you talking about?

He claimed he was prayed for by one servant vic (they never put their complete names so that investigation will not be conducted on them) and his sperm count went from zero to 47 million. I told him show me proof (documentary evidence) that you sperm count was zero at one point (sperm count can never be zero) and then show me lab test for 47 million.

The guy just dey drink OMO since.

^^^^^^ The attitude of a charlatan. People please go to the hospital oh. That is where the miracle lies. For every action there is an equal reaction. You cannot change the equation through hope. That water you claim to be blessed is just normal water with Hydrogen and Oxygen atoms just like the one I am drinking now. If you have malaria please take your pills, except you have blood genotype of SS and AS or your antibodies are extremely strong. If you have fertility issues please visit a fertility doctor. I repeat, visit a fertility hospital. They will take you through the entire process and tell you what is wrong with you. You would see the result through scan. Please you owe yourself that and not some charlatan claiming to be performing miracles. He is no medical practitioners. He is a fraud and would complicate your issue.

They have created this thread for advertisement and have recruited people to support their fictitious claims. Open your eyes and use your brain logically.

Wolves in sheep clothings.....

shdemidemi:
If anyone 'believe God for healing' and truly gets healed, that one should take it as a time when heaven meets with chance for that change. He should give thanks. The mistake such person will make is to map out formulas (e.g 10 ways to healing, 20 ways to prosperity) to others on how to make God do what you want, or misdirect the reason for the miracle to a man or present himself as a miracle maker.

I do not believe we should be going to God with a mindset that we want a problem solved. If your god isn't blind or deaf or a slow thinker, he wouldn't create you without a purpose. If he creates you with a purpose he must also provide everything necessary to carry out the purpose for which you were made to the letter.

Do what is naturally needed and humanly required to be done within the confines of God's word and you will get all that is needed (your lot)-not all that you want. Don't look for Jo and his cohorts for those things you don't have, make do with that which you have.

I like this

shdemidemi:
^^^ tell them bro! Let's hope they turn from deceiving and being deceived.

I do not think these men are mostly at fault. They have people working with them - these people, who actually know the truth, are the wicked ones. These co-workers to pastors continue to make the general public to believe their MOGs. If these MOGs were debunked at their early stage of falsehood, we would have witness tremendous decline.

Sotum you are yet to provide evidence and prove me wrong that your servant vic, which may even be you is a fraud

McSterling:
The question I always ask about these purported miracle workers is this: if indeed they can do fantastic deeds like healing HIV,blindness,raising the dead etc.,why doesn't the world take them seriously?Why doesn't the media broadcast and publish these things? Why do we always have to take the word of these healers or their sycophants for it? You want us to believe fantastic and extraordinary things are happening at certain church meetings and the world just chooses to ignore you because of unbelief?

Someone mentioned John G. Lake here. Lake claimed that he was mightily used by God to heal a certain plague that hit SA in the early 20th century. He even said he asked a doctor to collect fumes from the corpse of a dead victim and put it in his(Lake's) hands, claiming the microorganisms will die. And he further tells us that they did die when observed under the microscope. A most fantastic deed indeed! But is there any external, disinterested or independent evidence corroborating Lake's claim? Not that I know of. The same applies to the many supposed faith healers: A.A. Allen, Wigglesworth, Branham et al. Lake the faith healer died of a stroke at 65 in 1935 after making many outrageous claims that made him seem superhuman. He was just a man after all.

mikuut:
@samplet I cld nt go I sent de boy thats staying with us to tell servant vic to ples give him blessed water for me severe pain on my head o, @Samplet I got pregnant some months back on d10th wk my elder sis called us so we travelled down, she told us that a pastor saw in a vision dat theris need for family spiritual cleansing cos of whwt happened to our step sister, so we contributed money lodged d M.O.G paid d fee. Am feeling pains let me shorten it, infact I lost d preg, dream is now bad and scary, goods dat used to arrive easily is now tough.
@samplet I cant post details, I hv pm you respond.
@Godssent, thanks for opening my eyes I hv learnt my last lesson.

Damn. Will you go to the hospital for Christ sake and go check yourself up. Blessed water oh God. Please pastors do not see vision, they speculate. Even Clairvoyants will need you to be in their presence before they perceive your aura and certain times they are wrong with their perception. Why would a bloody man who is suppose to worry about his welfare begin to see you in dreams when his dreams are a manifestation of his subconsciousness. These people will never learn.

Go to hospital woman.

sotum2:
Because u went to a fake pastor with this mentality u lost u mum.

God is the one that can deliver not man.

All ur comments to pastor joeagbaje was, but u claim u healed jeff of hiv?, etc. Wit this mentality u can never get anything frm God.

The next deliverance session will be on the 29th of this month, i dare u to go to CCT if the contrary spirit in u wil not manifest and be chained there.

You want to be a hero like sirjohn, oya forward match to CCT on their deliverance day, no body wil tel u, u wil come back to this tread and use that ur same mouth u used in calling Servant Vic a fraud to say he is a Servant of God, unlike the fake pastor that made u loose ur mum.

I can see you have been reading my previous post. Good for you. Sorry I do not seek to be a hero. I am already a hero to the people that matters to me a lot. I did not go to any pastor and FYI most pastors are fake. They do not understand God - the Supreme Being/Creator. Also, FYI The Supreme Being/God has given us everything we need. So I am sorry to disappoint you that I shall neither be attending your charade of a deliverance session nor will any contrary spirit manifest (very laughable with the things they confuse these people with).

Also note that you do not need anybody to solve your problem and I strongly recommend people having fertility issues to desist from this thread and go to fertility clinics where you meet specialists who will tell you what is wrong with you and advise you on therapies and alternative solutions. That is the miracle God has provided for Scientists to make breakthroughs.

Don't fuel your heart with false hopes this fake preachers offer. They have nothing to offer than the offerings and donations you give to them. Servant Vic is only interested in starting a ministry. He is not a medical practitioner.

Litmus:
LOL, Nigeria Ebola, Congo ??

You can see clearly that it pained so many in Africa that Nigeria did not wallow in Ebola. Africa is a lost continent, Nigerians have so got to understand this. We got ta build walls around Nigeria or we're lost along with the baboons that infest the continent.

I am surprised the comment, filled with hate and prejudice, got 89 likes. Let me remind this poster that in the early era of independence, Nigeria was seen as a shining star, one that would lead the African continent to glory. A lot of reasons were cited, first, the way we got our independence, the discovery of oil and also the population.

Has Nigeria lived up to that reputation - No. Has Nigeria organised itself properly - No. This is the harsh reality of life. You will be addressed the way you are perceived.

Please note that for the African continent to be respected, Nigeria has a great role to play.

I will not deny the fact the extra ordinary things happen to people just like extra terrestrial beings coming to earth without us seeing them. Miracle like what they call them is a personal thing, it does not require a pastor laying hands on you. It requires you understanding some metaphysics principles and spiritual exercises which you can perform by yourself and only yourself and not by a man screaming and pointing fingers on you. If an extra ordinary positive circumstances come to you, it is not by chance it is you who has so desired that circumstances to your life. The Supreme Being or Creator knows our heart desires, however there are certain things that desires cannot just solve, else every man would be living in a mansion with gold at their feet.

Barywhyte:
Nobody is under any obligation to prove anything to you. You believe fine; you don't good for you.


As you can see, people aren't responding to your posts,perhaps because they consider it waste of time. I will toll that line too.

Sorry you lost your mother to fake pastor. Its a pity.

In nairaland you have to prove before gullible people fall victim. your servant is dangerous to the society, they sell false hope. what is he delivering people from? why cant he deliver himself

sotum2:
Not only result, i wil also show u my child picture, i hisssssssed.

Oboy, i have read from your post on how u lost ur dear mum according to u, to cancer because one fake pastor gave u assurance that ur mum wil not die but she later died of the cancer. Is a pity that u lost ur mum due to fake pastor, so because of ur mum there is no more miracle again, u a liar.

U met a fake pastor and ur mum died and u are frustraitd while some of us met Servant Vic and we are testifies.

I smile at your stup!d!ty. The doctors already told us it is terminal. Research has shown that at that stage there is little you can do. Given her good nature, she doesnt deserve to die soon. You cannot rule out fact and you cannot rule out science.

You can leave my mother who has transcended and is with her creator and prove to us that servant vic is authentic. You can try all distractions but that doesnt take away the fact that your servant or whatever he is, is nothing but a fraud.

Barywhyte:
You don't have a discerning mind. You are not any close. My advice for you remain the same

Chief prove proof. That's all. There is nothing much in it.

CFCfan:
Sir, if both Nigeria and Congo win, both will have 10 points. Then the 1st tie-breaker would be GD. At the moment, Nigeria has +2, Congo has -1.

So if Congo beat Sudan 4-0, their GD will rise to +3. If Nigeria beat SA by 1-0, our GD would also be +3. With GD being tied, Nigeria will clinch 2nd spot by virtue of the greater number of goals scored in our 2 matches against Congo (4-3).

However, if Congo beat Sudan 5-0, the GD would be +4; and if SE only beat SA 1-0, our GD would be +3. By virtue of the superior GD in this instance, the Congolese would clinch 2nd spot in the group.

I like your arithmetics. However, are you sure we would win south africa on wednesday?

sotum2:
Good evening to all the conquorers and the new member.

When was a boy, i talked like a boy, now that i am a father, i talk like one.

I pray somebody wil not pass through what i pass through bt anybody that wish it for himself then let his or her wish come to pass in Jesus name.

Chief I noticed you claimed servant vic gave you the miracle you so called claimed. he prayed for you and your sperm count increased from zero to 47 million. Now can you show us documentary proof to this. Scan and post to us, within 5 days, your lab result showing you having zero count (which is clinically impossible) and the lab result showing your count for 47 million. Please note that physical verification shall be conducted based on what you scanned. If you choose not to show proof, then I shall consider you a liar and your prophet a fraud. Actually he is a fraud to me till you prove me otherwise.

Just like you considered it your duty to promote and advertise the works of your master, I consider it my duty to ensure that innocent nairalanders do not fall for this scam.

nora544:
The problem is that the head of nigeria is also following this dangerous pastors.

The followers have to see that and that should go to a newspaper and post it on facebook, the people of nigeria have to see this that they see what pastors realy are.

It all boils down to poverty. Poverty is truly a disease and our government is truly wicked in ensuring that poverty remains in this country. Without poverty, all men will have access to things to increase their intellects. Who would bother going to a pastor when he can pay for his health care. Who would listen to a pastor who says he can cure ebola and HIV when such person would have obtained quality education and can discern how the HIV and Ebola virus works. Who would be interested in listening to a pastor who says he can make you rich, when you know that you must work hard to be rich, or who would attribute witchcraft to your business, when actually your product quality is bad or a there is a change in demand due to entrance by competition.

Barywhyte:
The thread has been in existence for more than a year, with testimonies coming in from all angles. I just got to know about it two months ago here on NL. And I attended one of those programs. Nobody ask me for any money or fulfill any material request, and my terrible nightmares have changed since and I have also made great progress in my career. I am a Unix sysadmin. So my brother, go and look for your lost senses before things become too late for you.

I have got no lost senses but of high quality discerning mind and I can tell you that your servant vic is a fraud even without me interviewing him. Except you are part of his co-workers or you are him in another moniker.

Please if you have issues with your reproduction system, kindly visit a fertility hospital. Avoid this people. They complicate your issue. Like I told you, I sampled the thread and I noticed only one person, whom I supposed to either be working for servant vic or is servant vic. I also noticed that the people screaming registered about the same time this thread emerged.

Ukutsgp:
Many pastors today perform miracles(many staged) and announce it everywhere. Jesus didn't even allow people he healed in his time to broadcast the miracles. He wants them to be silent about it. But many pastors today takes the glory themselves. They even boast that they can do miracles.

Point of correction, all are staged. No miracle occurs.

Folks, people like Joagbaje are dangerous to our society. They sell false hope in exchange of donations, offerings, tithe, first fruits etc. These gullible people go home with the belief that they are well only for them to relapse again or die. Some people have been told to throw away their drugs and only for the ailment to be complicated.

We need government intervention to stop these fraudsters from their continuous wickedness to humanity.

Okay Folks, I have been trying to get the full clip of the video posted by Joagbaje claiming to healed Jeff of HIV. Well thanks to SirJohn, we now know that such miracle never existed. Folks, I want you to watch the second person with a discerning mind. He is an Usher in Joagbaje church, an employee. I do not want to assume he was induced by Joagbaje to give his testimony, I will leave that to you. His name is Uwem. He got me more interested than Jeff, in him you would see and understand the kind of person Joagbaje is.

Uwem came to give testimony about experiencing pains in the chest and after Joagbaje prayed, the pains left instantly. Folks, that's supposed to be a miracle right. Now at 06:43 Joagbaje started praying for him again - Why? This guy just claimed to be alright, Why another prayer session? Guess what, the prayer session turned around to become an exorcism and a supposed demon possessing the young man. At 07:33, you will notice Joagbaje communicating with the demon and the supposed demon claimed he has destroyed the young man's life . At 11:16, Joagbaje asked him (after the exorcism had been performed) what sickness does he usually experience and he said asthma. Now remember this was a man who claimed to have been healed .

Below are symptoms of asthmatic patients

Frequent cough, especially at night
Losing your breath easily or shortness of breath
Feeling very tired or weak when exercising
Wheezing or coughing after exercise
Feeling tired, easily upset, grouchy, or moody
Decreases or changes in lung function as measured on a peak flow meter
Signs of a cold or allergies (sneezing, runny nose, cough, nasal congestion, sore throat, and headache)
Trouble sleeping

The guy does not look like someone who has any of the symptoms mentioned above.

12:33 got me laughing, Joagbaje was pretending to be crying when he said wealth and prosperity. I presumed he did not want to finish the statement.

Folks, Uwem is an Usher in Joagbaje's church, an employee who works for Joagbaje and should be well known to Joagbaje. I do not want to conclude for you all. Enjoy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npd5hQMyk3g&feature=youtu.be

nora544:
I know this because my daughter work for doctors without border and is a PHD in Medicine and I also know that there was no Ebola in Tanzania.

Of course there was no Ebola in Tanzania. Ebola is remote in west africa and has not moved to east africa. Everybody knows that. Did Joagbaje claimed he healed an ebola patient in Tanzania?

benodic:
reincarnation is very real .
to take it a step further . in the night before you go to sleep pray to God in the way that is most comfortable to you and then ask the question, is reincarnation real ? then go to sleep and watch your dream. the answer you will get will be your authority.

Ben you need to expand further on this to enable people understand a bit

SirJohn:
@PastorKun, I don't think it is necessary to release any more detail especially considering the fact that Joagbaje did not contest the burst.
He has apologised for any misrepresentation his actions caused and has tried to explain his involvement in the issue.
The point has been made, THERE WAS NO MIRACULOUS CURE OF HIV
The details I posted already is causing no small stir as I already had someone accuse me of blackmailing Joagbaje, and threatened to arrest and jail me well I've told him to bring it on.

That must be Gombs. They want you to get scared and stop. Please you owe posterity. Release the ammunition but don't make any conclusion. Let the reader make up his own opinion.

enm:
Bro it does not hurt to read through the thread before commenting.

Anyway you are welcome to this thread.

I have sampled the thread. 116 pages to promote a man - waoh. All I see is fraud nothing but fraud and why are the mods allowing this to go by.

sotum2:
Julieton, congratulation may the Good Lord protect you and your child, till birth in Jesus name.

All the new conquerors and those preparing for 2morrow deliverance session, we shall see there IJN

me and my wife, we are preparing for our trip to lagos to attend thurs Deliverance session.
we really need the blessed water, but Servant Vic told me the Lord is not blessing water on thurs except blessed water and anointing service day, which is every last fridays of the month, but he said that God has decided to come down with His power and fire to attend to his people like never before, he said The deliverance session is PUSH, that is, pray until something happen and he told us to pray a prayer point once we get to the gate of the terbanacle before entering. We want to be the next testifier in Jesus name.

but i thought your sperm count was okay why do you need to go for another deliverance again........