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Christianity Etc › Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by Boss13: 10:04pm On Nov 14, 2014
sotum2:
Huuum, may God give us our children on time, this one that our wives are been thought how to peep at us, weeeeeeellllllll, God answer ur name in every ones life so that we will not answer much questions from our wives
I thought your sperm count went from zero to 47 million and your wife was ovulating. What are you waiting for again? However, please post your result
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Conquer Barrenness/ Poverty Spiritually & Physically by Boss13: 9:47pm On Nov 14, 2014
sotum2:
Good morning my sisters and brothers, pls help me thank God and this his servant that is using to save humanity from satanic bondage.

My sperm count was reading Zero count before I called servant Vic, and went for his revival, after the revival and use of the water, i collected from the revival my sperm count moved from Zero count to 2million.

I did say that I will come on tue. to come and give the owesome experience with this humble, God fearing,and powerful Servant of God who God has been using greatly without collecting nothing from any one. Instead, he is the one giving to needy, I saw more than 70 Needy people on cue collecting food itms and mony from the servant of God who is not intrested in our money except the ways and the will of God.

I am saying this because, some so called men of God in Benin city having only headeche anointing, will ask you to sow a great seed or even ask you to pay into their bank account before they will pray that their science and technology type of prayer(Press the vain in your head, turn your neck till you decide to fall or your neck will break. The moment you fall they say you are deliver with no proof, when you say u want to go and do test they tell you you dont have faith.

May God deliver his people with these fake pastor my belle call me and show his children his thru servants like Servant Vic where we can go and at the end we give glorry to God, because God had said in Jeri 32V27 that he is God of all flesh and there is nothing he can not do.

So why is it that children of God, pray, pray,pray, pray, under some of these so called men of God and nothing, nothing, I thank God I now know My own Prophet that I can trust and I really wish I can be coming from Benin city, every time to worship with him. The moment that Servant Of God Hold's the mic, you will feel the presence of the holy spirit all over the tarbernacle, God is really working in Christ Chosen Tabernacle.

I know some of us want to hear my count result. I went for my result on monday evening and when i saw the Sperm count result, from 2million to 37million, it was like a dream, and i thought they used somebody's own for mine, that was why i did not come on tue to give any report.

I went to another Lab to redo the test again and behold, God of Signs and Wonders proved to me he is God, He can do all things, Presently the Count has moved from 37million to 47million what else can i say, I just call servant Vic this morning to tell him about God's wonder, he told me to be on my kneels while he was still on his kneels, he thanked God for what he has done and prayed that God should finish what he has started in my life.. I could not hold back my tears of Joy.

I am thinking of being part of that his needy arrengement, where he attends to the needy every last Thursday, to all who God is attending to let us follow all his instructions and the priciples of God.

Remember Servant Vic teaching....
*God is not a Goat, so u can not treat him like one.
*God is no respecter of persons, so we dont expect him to respect us
*God is not a christian, he is not a moslem, he created the christians and Moslems and whoever works in his ways(Holiness) will be with him in paradise
*God is unchangeable, What he did not do with the first man and woman he created in the gerden of Eden, because once you sin and refuse to ask for forgiveness of sin and the devil accuses you before him in heaven where Paul. Shedrack,Stephen, Moses(Who did not enter the promiseland because of Striking the rock instead of speaking to the rock), Elisha, Elijah, Joshua, etc are, the Lord who is not a patial God can not let the patriots down because of you and I, so it is Holiness or nothing.

*Malice ,anger are sin(so whoever is keeping malice or angry with any one, please make ammend because God can not change his Laws because of us.

@Godsent, I am part of this great work of God, in making others also benefit from this great healing power of God thru this servant of God. I f u have not come to share ur testimony I would not have received my healing, just like many of us, even some who have not come to share theirs, because the number of people that attends the deliverance session is much.

@ All, let us keep this thread alive and even in anyway we could tell people through other thread about this servant of God and what God can do, If only you know the amount we have spent on medications without result or the frightful dreams and Different deliverance but no result then whatever I do for this God will not be too much.

We all should be part of God"s work by doing what we are doing and telling other people who are in same problem the Lord delivered us from and testify about one so that he can do more.

Remember the humble servant of God said he can not help anyone but God is the deliverer and the one that can heal. May the Good God protect this his servant from powers of darkness and may our testimony be permanent in Jesus name, and for those who are having one or two challenges please do not hesitate to call him on

0haecc0idgi. Hope u understand it. 081=0ha, call him u will be glad u did.
Can we see the test results? Please post them
Science/Technology › Re: Nigerian Scientist's Conversion Of Urine Into Flammable Gases Gets Patent by Boss13: 8:21pm On Nov 14, 2014
Is this guy saying that our urine will now be sold for cash
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 8:08pm On Nov 14, 2014
trustman:
Joagbaje was very emphatic, one can even say too emphatic, about this case. That posture should ordinarily mean that he was very sure of his position. Offering half a million Naira would appear to any observer that he was absolutely confident of his claim. A person has to be completely sure to have gone that far. 

However, given the turn of events it is obvious that Joagbaje not only failed to  
" test the spirits to see whether they are from God"
but may himself now be classified among the " many false prophets (that) have gone out into the world." By this revelation ALL his other claims, and even his church's, are now QUESTIONABLE. 

SirJohn has been able to prove that this guy wasn't healed of HIV. That was the challenge. Not if joagbaje was deceived. Not anything else. Will Joagbaje keep his own side of the bargain? That is the 'common sense' thing to do. I don't seem to have seen him respond to SirJohn's simple questions. Is it a question of 'silence means consent' or that of tactical withdrawal to 'rearm'? I see some 'suggestions' being offered to Joagbaje by some who think "The only clear thing here is folks blowing stuffs out of proportions.". Really!! Does the word 'INTEGRITY' mean anything to these guys?

The bigger issue now is really this: will they learn from this or simply attribute it to the devil's work and continue to peddle their trade? The lives of many other people are at stake. 
Excellent comment. Well what they have is a business organisation and Joagbaje runs the bayelsa branch. He is an employee and must render accounts of his stewardship or he would get fired. Hence, I do not see Joagbaje turning a new leaf but to continue in the deceit and even more aggressively because targets are increased on a proportional level. Little wonder the organisation is doing so well. But the big question is where and why are they accumulating this wealth?
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 2:04pm On Nov 14, 2014
honeychild:
I think Sir John is just being nice to Joagbaje joor. How can anyone say Joagbaje was deceived by Jeff?

Why will Jeff, a total stranger, walk into Joagbaje's church, to give a false testimony of being healed? What is in it for him?

Joagbaje never met him before. Never prayed for him before. But by himself he just walked into church to claim false identity. They even asked him if he was the one being prayed for, he said yes. Why on earth will he do that?

Abegi. Joagbaje paid Jeff to give false testimony as usual. He threw down the challenge believing that nobody will follow it up. He didn't know that Sir John our very own master detective will thoroughly investigate.

Joagbaje this is the second time you have been exposed as a fraud. The other time, you said you healed someone of blindness. Upon investigation it was discovered that the woman was never blind, but only had "peppery sensation" in her eye. Now you paraded an AIDS victim you cured, only for it to turn out that you never even prayed for the guy.

Please make out Sir John's cheque for 500k jare. Two weeks of tithes, thanksgiving and offering should cover it grin
Oh this is the second time. Do you have the thread for the supposed blind woman.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 1:30pm On Nov 14, 2014
nannymcphee:
Can someone pls give me a rundown of what's really happening here

My observations/questions

1. The YouTube video was probably compressed so one might understand the need to verify the identity of the testifier(compression-video quality was compromised)

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the master copy will be clear as heaven, proper scrutiny would be applied, how then can you mix up someone who testified & the insert video of when he was being prayed for?

3. Why send a video to someone asking him, if he is the one in the video?(you yourself u nor know who you pray for again?)

2. Without physical evidence of a medical report, why take Jeff's word for it & why was proper investigation not done, before publishing it to the whole world

3.can someone pls explain why the medical report shown here is having 8/11/2014?

Is that a new test was performed & the guy is still negative?

4. That 500k must be paid o


I once mistakenly wrote 8yrs instead of 18yrs & I was sent to the gallows by Gombs

I'm Surprised to see him speak here with no shame or remorse!!(I have once asked for his age & I ask again)



If you could say the above to me, for a mere typographical error(8yrs instead of 18yr)

Pls what do you have to say to Joagbaje?
Hmm when I decided to go hard on Joagbaje, a few folks said I should slow it down but his gangs would ridicule the day light out of you. Why should the same treatment not carried out on them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastors And Staging Of Miracles. by Boss13: 11:48am On Nov 14, 2014
Raiders:
All Nigerian pastors from pastor Chris to TB Joshua stage miracles. They use their fake miracles to attract church members.
GBAM
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastors And Staging Of Miracles. by Boss13: 11:48am On Nov 14, 2014
^^^^^^ My brother do you think they ever performed a single miracle? They are all staged. Browse the internet and see for yourself.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 11:23am On Nov 14, 2014
LastOkpaBender:
My own is, when is jerry curl master joagbaje going to give the op his 500k?
We are not going to forget o, and we will not hear sorry. Provide the money with immediate effect.

Remember remember
the 14th of November
the jerry curl healing and fraud
I know of no reason
the jerry curl healing
should ever be forgot


grin grin
We would keep reminding him of his debt. He has to pay. I don't care if he turns it into an integrity publicity stunt.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 11:20am On Nov 14, 2014
PastorKun:
@sirjohn
Meanwhile you haven't completed the report of your investigation oh! The space you booked for it on the first page is still empty.
True, please Sirjohn complete the investigation. It is good you did not make any conclusion. Let the public conclude themselves but you owe us every bit of findings. Thanks in advance
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Boss13: 11:17am On Nov 14, 2014
I can see we are still deliberating on a lost cause and I don't understand why. I have been on NL for a long while and I enjoy reading the religious section especially funny comments. I also have taken note of Joagbaje's comments because they are infused with so much arrogance. As is most cases, I ignore them. I noticed how Joagbaje and Gombs try to knock Kenyan28 down and how hard the woman was finding it difficult to express her sincerity.

Let's be honest, if a man goes about telling people - I have cured 4 persons of HIV and I have raised someone from the dead. What kind of assertion is that? Later he turns around and say it is for the glory of God (a God you have little clue about). I see that man as being boastful and is trying to advertise his trade. He decided to shut us up by posting a falsified video clip.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 10:03pm On Nov 13, 2014
StarBoard:
Dr Abalaka.
Grade 1 charlatan.

How are we no sure that he has not forged the 4 cases he claims he has healed?
and how do we know that there is a video of him "raising" someone from the dead?

Dis one na nollywood special.
You need to watch the full video clip of Jeff's testimony. There was a second guy, pure comedy show. That was exactly what I wanted people to watch not Jeff false testimony. Both testimonies took place the same day. if you had watch it completely you will understand that Jeff's testimony was also staged. I never see quality acting like that before.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 10:01pm On Nov 13, 2014
StarBoard:
Bros is not a laughing matter.
Charlatans like Jo are in abundance.

Meanwhile plaetton is still engaging pastor Jo's FRA Williams who is defining fraud for grown men instead of doing so for his little toddler nephews
I know. Once a man confronts me with the word Pastor, Evangelist, Reverend; I turn off immediately. I know how many business contacts I turned down. One invited me to his office and wanted to bribe me and I was like (in my mind) I thought this guy is a pastor. I politely declined the offer. I don't play that way - fraudsters irritates me.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 9:52pm On Nov 13, 2014
StarBoard:
grin grin grin

Fake long throat pastor cannot bring evidence of one healed, you are asking him for 4.
Dem send you?
grin. the guy don put am for him CV. I have raised one person from the dead, healed 4 HIV patients and if nigerians does not have adequate information had ebola was handled, I bet he would add that too. For the glory of God indeed.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 9:41pm On Nov 13, 2014
My people make una see Joagbaje. Joagbaje please provide evidence for all these.

Joagbaje:
I do work miracles as expected of a christian . I have at least 4 HIV cases healed . Blind cases . And a dead raised to life. I don't need any validation from anyone. It's only sad. That many folks here don't know christ nor his power. See how so called Christians are shaking at a common demonic desease. What does the name if Jesus mean to you? What does his death mean to you. Do you know him ? The gospel is not in words but it's in power.


1 Thessalonians 1:5
For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power,

1 Corinthians 2:4
And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 9:29pm On Nov 13, 2014
plaetton:
The same Joagbaje tried to sell an ebola miracle cure here a few weeks ago. I was so pissed off I quickly reported tot he mods to have the thread removed.
I just can't imagine what is in the hearts of these people and the others that support them.
Wickedness nothing but pure wickedness. He has financial target to meet for Christ Embassy.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 9:27pm On Nov 13, 2014
vooks:
Gombs is a Christ Embassy hooligan. He will soil this place with gifs to irritate you. Ignore the kid.
His other specialty is spewing Oyaks puke all over.
he is a lunatic. exactly like the ones eating faeces in Upper Iweka Onitsha
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 9:24pm On Nov 13, 2014
SirJohn:
Joagbaje,
Did I prove to you that the video was a joke? YES
Did I prove that the guy wasn't healed? YES
Did I prove you wrong? YES

If your response is contrary, please say cool

This is the guys medical report, the only one we could get in two months; can you provide a negative report to cancel this out? NO
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5609/15162940963_16c4dd88f5_m.jpg
Joagbaje abeg pay this man his money. No too much talk inside. Sirjohn call him on phone let him come and tell the house the date of payment.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 9:21pm On Nov 13, 2014
plaetton:
These guys are nothing but hustlers.
These is nothing they would not do or say to sell their wares.

My particular anger at these clowns is that they are dabbling with deadly issues that have deadly repercussions on society, without even a care.

Other imbeciles likes Gombs and striktimi would defend these fraudsters with out an ounce of care of the damage to the larger society.
And the slowpoke calls me emotional.
If I can't be emotional about a public health hazard, then i don't know what else I could be emtional about.
What was annoying was how they wanted to coined it as a mistake on the part of Joagbaje that he was deceived by Jeff. Why would Jeff wander of the streets into Joagbaje's church just to testify that he was healed when he wasn't. Remember Sirjohn told us he has lost his job. Joagbaje wants me to believe that he was sending Jeff money to get his HIV report or conspiring with him.

This same Joagbaje told us he can cure ebola shocked The man is so insane.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 9:11pm On Nov 13, 2014
StarBoard:
his battery is dead on his other device. Good riddance abeg.

seriously im glad this thread appeared. I know for real whom to take seriously.

Joe is just a belly serving man wanting to get his share of the loot that is apparently easy to get in modern day Christianity.
Greedy, boastful, vain, pompous doesnt even begin to describe him.
Dont forget this

Gombs:
I'd contact Joagbaje for his side of the story!...


Meanwhile, nicely played stunt SirJohn. I'd be back smiley

You had to post the chat here too? That was private talk man!


EDITED:
I called him, he is enroute Port Harcourt (Driving)...He said he would visit the thread as soon as he stops driving.

Until then.... ***Unfollows thread***
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 9:05pm On Nov 13, 2014
vooks:
Let's get this straight;
1. A man shows up at Joagbaje's church and testifies of his prior visit where prayers were made for him and how he was healed of HIV and his negative status confirmed in three hospitals

2. The man claims to be another man being prayed for for the same disease in the same church

3. The man being prayed for is said to be HIV+ and he was healed

4. The man claiming to have been healed turns out to be HIV+

Why would a HIV+ man give false testimony of being healed and how the same was confirmed by three separate hospital tests?
This man is an ACCOMPLICE; they had his spectacular testimony and they spiced it with the prayers. But since no prayers were offered, they used the best match ( a dead guy by now otherwise he'd have gone back to testify!) for nostalgia cheesy

PS: joagbaje can somewhat perceive/discern HIV leaving the sick guy's body but can't discern the same HIV inside the man in front of him purporting to have been healed? grin grin grin
Vooks a man with a discerning mind. You see through the deception. Then like a crying baby he comes to nairaland for sympathy
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 9:01pm On Nov 13, 2014
StarBoard:
So is it safe to conclude that the "miracle" was staged?
very staged as always with the general overseer - jerry curl chris oyaks
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 8:56pm On Nov 13, 2014
Joagaje has left the thread. I do hope that is the last of him here on nairaland.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 8:52pm On Nov 13, 2014
Topgainer:
Can Somebody tell Goons Gombs to stop flooding this thread with USELESS GRAPHICS,


We are not JOKING here. This is a serious issue any Christian should be concerned about
He does it a lot. One of his ways to derail the thread especially when things are not in their favour. That was why I was mad, because they were so arrogant.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 8:50pm On Nov 13, 2014
SirJohn I want to thank you for taking up the challenge when Joagbaje was boasting around. I also want to thank you for uncovering the truth and putting joagbaje where he should be. Now, it is left for Joagbaje to fulfil his promise by giving you the N500,000 you rightly deserve it. Good luck Good man
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 8:43pm On Nov 13, 2014
Tarokboy:
I have been following this thread and have observed that the bone of contention if I am not mistaking is if Oga Jo can perform Miracles or not right?
I am not here to side any party but I feel all this can be settled.
Now Pastor Jo stated that several other miracles have been performed by him hence the mix up in the Video of Jeff.
Sir Jo please since you are ready to prove you can actually heal and many other healings have been performed by you, why not upload or post more links to miracles I.e making the blind see and the lame walk and contacts and addreses of those healed so that others can go confirm just like the case of Jeff.
I repeat Miracles of giving sight to individuals who where born blind and perhaps one who had polio from childhood will settle this case
Sorry it may sound like I am doubting pastor Jo but this has to be settled once and for all.
Regards.
He is not. Do you want to spoil his business.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 8:39pm On Nov 13, 2014
SirJohn what was he doing in Owerri? His testimony was a test in FMC Portharcourt and Gloryland Bayelsa. Watch the video again, he mentioned another hospital (with no name) in port harcourt. I noticed you were only interested in Jeff. The clip had another guy who testified. Do you have the full clip? I want people to see through Joagbaje.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 8:16pm On Nov 13, 2014
PastorKun:
Take it easy on the expletives, you are being too abusive and it doesn't augur well for a meaningful discussion.

I consider myself as one of Joagbaje's leading antagonists on this forum, yet in this case based on the evidences so far, I am willing to give him some benefit of doubt as it seems he was misled my Jeff's testimony based on the evidence SirJohn as provided us with.
I can tell you I am so nice with him here. If I was close to him physically, he won't be finding it funny and I am sorry I would not take it easy on him. I cannot allow him continue to deceive more people on nairaland. I was very calm when he was going around boasting and posting false claims. This is my turn.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 8:10pm On Nov 13, 2014
SalC:
You have started again @bold
grin

Fraudsters don't give up. You see how mentally ill Joagbaje is. He is so sure that the person he prayed for was healed and he isn't sure of the person. Joagbaje so who is this supposed person? Abeg Joagbaje you need doctor - I swear
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 7:44pm On Nov 13, 2014
Joagbaje you owe N500,000 to SirJohn. Kindly remit the money to him please. You can go on deceiving people, but I am so sure in afterlife your situation will be terrible. I no curse you - it is law of Karma (you sow what you reap), you cannot escape it. We determine our own fate.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 7:37pm On Nov 13, 2014
nora544:
https://www.nairaland.com/1881318/joagbaje-right-ebola-jesus-cure

read this because the orginal post was deleted when joagbaye want to show us that he could heal Ebola
I remember him saying that. Joagbaje can you heal Ebola shocked These !doitic guys continue to amaze me.
Christianity Etc › Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by Boss13: 7:32pm On Nov 13, 2014
striktlymi:
As far as I am concerned your post is irrelevant. It is impossible for any right thinking individual to read through sirjohn's exposé and conclude based on that evidence that you were fraudulent. At best the only thing you were guilty of (if I can tag it guilt) was the fact that you believed this so called Jeff.
Jeff did not act on his own accord. He is an accomplice to Joagbaje. I know their tricks and they are so many of them in this country deceiving and confusing gullible people.

Can people go back to that clip and watch it again. Forget about Jeff, watch the 2nd guy and please put on a logical mindset.

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