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striktlymi:
You have up there is already established. I know he allowed himself to be deceived for whatever reason but this does not show that he was fraudulent.

Would have loved to stick around some more but got to get home.


Will respond later though.

StarBoard:
He who lives by the sword should be prepared to die by same.
it is unreasonable to give something to someone eho has abused the priviledge of such.

The insulting and demeaning language used by Joe and his cohorts who are slowly coming out of their holes to his defense on previous threads on this matter would indicate that he does not deserve the benefit. Simples.

When tjeir fingers were itching did they realize that a time would come when the very essence of their position would come under severe scrutiny as it os now?

For me the video evidence is damning and there is absolutely nothing to hear.

striktlymi:
Now you got me all confused!

Are you accusing him of being a "fake pastor" or you want to accuse him of being fraudulent?

SalC:
I want to believe Joeagbaje didn't know the guy was lying. But what I don't understand is why joe could go as far as daring people again and again to go verify a miracle he himself did not verify, why would he ask people to go to an FMC to verify a case he himself did not go to ascertain the accuracy of their medical report, infact a medical report he did not even set his aided or unaided eye on. Why would he stake his hard earned half a million naira on something he isn't sure of?

That's a big mistake on your part Joe, I hope you'll be more careful next time.

Joagbaje:
Really. Did you see how the guy looked emanciated and sickly before the prayer. How was that acted? He lost his Fiancee because of his HIV status . Don't be stubborn . Healing is before you. Watch it again with open mind. https://www.dropbox.com/l/zm7qzQm89ZWxuyrDrva8kp

nep2ra:
In Nigeria, we have abnormal people who would come out and testify of more dreadful diseases worse than HIV IF there is monkey business involved.

This is how poverty and fake piousness has ruined the psyche of most Nigerians.

Just a reminder.

striktlymi:
If that was the case then he wouldn't have been cooperative during the investigation. He was so cooperative and open that he indirectly helped in showing the falsehood of Jeff's claim.

Pastor Joagbaje is not God to see the deceitful hearts of men. Jeff for whatever reason, as far as I have read, made a claim which happens to be false. Kudos to Joagbaje he did request for medical reports, though he later decided to take Jeff's words for it.

If there is someone to blame here it would have been Jeff not Joagbaje. If it can be established that Pastor Joagbaje committed any act of fraud then he would have been blame-worthy but for now there is no shred of evidence that Pastor Joagbaje committed fraud.

Joagbaje:

Pls eat your drug alone. We believe in divine immunity .

WinsomeX
This is the height of arrogance and presumption...

So it is wrong to use drugs now. That woman nearly lost her life and that of her daughter because of your church's falsehood and was saved by those drugs. And now you have the effrontery to ridicule them?

You are a dangerous person that must be avoided.
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Joagbaje:
When Jeff came to share his testimony. The first thing I asked for was his medical papers . He said he was asked to come for it. I asked him if he minded I share it online he said he didn't mind . I asked him to get the papers and how soon would it be . He said by weekend or so. I trusted and assumed he would have done that.

I also asked the editors to search for the programme he mentioned where he was prayed for . And the only video clip that agreed with his testimony was that particular insert. After the editing . I tried to get him to watch the video but he was not in town . When I felt the need to post the video . I sent him a link to watch it . And he replied it was him . I sent a screen shot of my Whatssapp conversation with him to Sirjohn . I hope he would be kind enough to show it . I'm using iPhone and can't post the screen shot here. . . .

Joagbaje:
You saw the video of my crusade, you saw the video of the HIV person I prayed for . May God curse be on me if I have posted any false information here. It's so painful to see how you who once knew truth shattered this woman's faith.

Ask her , when she first came on Nairaland , people taught she was a CEC member giving false testimony. I contacted her by mail and phone and pleaded with her two things . Please don't give a false testimony,God doesn't need it . But when I confirmed she was genuine . But I observed she had issue with anger and was insulting people here. I still pleaded with her again such . I have to stand before God one day to account for my life. If I could tell her then not to give a fake testimony ,you should know I won't be part of a lie.

By the time her language begin to change , from "HOW COME MY HEALING WAS NOT PERMANENT". to "I WAS NEVER HEALED" I backed off . Because at this point praying for her will never work except God will just do a spectacular miracle by healing just to demonstrate his love.

Joagbaje:
We record several testimonies and healings every week. So a miracle is not a strange occurrence . Probably that gave room for my little carelessness . LEt me explain JEFF case then you can judge if theres any evil intention .. . .

striktlymi:
At least that shows that he had nothing to hide. That fact alone has increased my respect for him. How many nairalanders can be that open? Can you?

Gombs:
You don't want him to speak again? Are you normal?

SirJohn:
I am not here to ridicule Joagbaje, I think he deserves the opportunity to explain himself before the world and probably apologize for his mistakes.
that is what I expect him to do. If that does not happen then I will assume he is unrepentant and maybe we will then unsheathe our swords

Fourcade:
Boss, let's see what he has to say. . .Easy does it

Joagbaje:
Firstly I humbly apologise for any misrepresentation

Gombs:
I'd contact Joagbaje for his side of the story!...


Meanwhile, nicely played stunt SirJohn. I'd be back

You had to post the chat here too? That was private talk man!


EDITED:
I called him, he is enroute Port Harcourt (Driving)...He said he would visit the thread as soon as he stops driving.

Until then.... ***Unfollows thread***

SirJohn:
Sorry I had to edit this post and remove my personal conversation with joagbaje, I think I should give him time to explain himself while I upload the next details

PastorKun:
And joagbaje was 'smart' enough to send such an incriminating screen shot to sirjohn as evidence.

SirJohn:
He doesn't work at the PH Intl airport as the video will have you believe. He is currently jobless and was also jobless at the time of the video. He used to work as a ticketing tout at the airport but lost the job and the relocated to another state.

SalC:
FROM THE CHAT

Pastor
Did you watch it to the end?

Jeff
Yes pastor

Pastor
Were you the one in the flashback video also, when I was praying?

Jeff
Pastor the network is bad here.

EPIC!!!

Sjones:
I can see lots of excitement as d "notorious gang" rejoice ova their much anticipatd fall of their Nightmare pst Joeagbaje.Som hav already calld him fake pastor.I want to suggest dat any findins abt him shld b postd here and d reading public b alowd to judge him.

SirJohn:
After series of questioning and pressure, on the 9th of this month, Joagbaje himself admitted in a chat that he has confirmed that the guy in the insert was not Jeff. The next day I got a call from Jeff also confessing that he was not the one in the flashback insert. Yet he had told me in a telephone conversation that he was the one and that he would send me a picture of him wearing the same clothes. The recorded conversation was sent to Joagbaje.

Stay tuned for more

vooks:
I would read this thread before attending this conference

WinsomeX:
Following...

PastorKun:
Space booked, dancing Azonto