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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab: 10:04pm On Oct 04, 2016

{John 20:21-23} is talking about men and women who have received the Holy spirit and if you forgive they are forgiven, have you not read {Matthew 18:21-22} How many times shall I forgive my Brother who sins against me? Up to seven times. Jesus answered and said I tell you not just seven times but seventy seven times. Because of this, the Kingdom of heaven is like a king who wanted to settle accounts with His servants.
So you see, Christ wrote this showing us that who ever belongs to Him has the power to forgive sins, that means I can forgive my brother and those against me all day long. In the name of Jesus. But if I am having trouble forgiving I pray to God for Jesus to strenghten me to forgive.
So not just your priest can forgive sins, in Christ, we all can forgive each other.

Emasearu:
Brother, pls be patient. Christ's church is the custodian of the Bible. She'll teach you what U need to know.
John 20:21-23 shows how the Sacrament of Reconciliation was instituted by Jesus Himself . If you deny that validly-ordained priests can forgive sins, you deny the authority of Christ, or imply some other worse things.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:38pm On Oct 04, 2016

The problem is, you aren't ready to understand the truth about Christ. And you have been taught a different language a different religion, a religion that doesn't 'and wont line up with the word of God.
None of what you have given me, lines up with the truth, yes you do use some scriptures, but they have been explained to you, a completely different way from what the bible actually say's who Christ is, and where His house belongs.
Their is no-where written in the bible about Mary's further role becoming the Mother of God, Her Son yes, He sits besides God the Father on His throne.
Show me in the bible where it actually say's, God said Mary would be sinless, or she was sinless?
Is your story about you walking into the classroom, and you are preferring not hearing the word of God, only because you have been a solid Catholic since birth, and none of the words I have given you is recognisable to you. Basically you are saying I am the noise, and nothing that is written from the bible makes any sense to you-because its a different bible language, you have never studied yourself.
DID YOU KNOW THE BIBLE SAY'S THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE
And still you aren't free...

Emasearu:
No, I'm sorry but it doesn't. She received mercy from The Most High at the point of her conception, to prepare her for her future role as Mother of God. That's all I'm saying.
I think the Son was speaking generally there, because God Himself said Mary would be sinless (I'll show you what I mean when you've answered my previous questions).
Let me give an example: if you were walk into a classroom and you found the students there making a noise. You try to see the people making the noise but give up and leave, because the class is just too noisy. Wouldn't you be correct to say: "That class was too noisy"? You would. However, there could have been one or two persons who didn't join in the noise-making, right?

Thank you for replying. :-)

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 2:53am On Oct 04, 2016*

Again you aren't understanding the word of God quite clearly, building our house is building our bodies, haven't you read {Matthew 12:43-45} ? {2 Corinthians 5:17}Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature, the old things passed away, behold the new things has come.
But if your referring to a building made of brick and mortar, even so that needs cleaning out too, demons live in People, {Matthew 12:43-45} when an unclean spirit go's out of a man, he go's through dry places, seeking rest and finds none, Then he say's I will return to my house from which I came, And when he comes he finds it clean and empty, swepted and put in order.
Then he go's takes with him 7 other spirits, more wicked then Himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worst then the first. So shall it also be with this wicked generation...
The True foundations of the Church is the word of God. Christ didn't have a building made of brick and mortar, He had His Kingdom within.
He told the Pharisees and the head of the Roman soldiers that year, His kingdom isn't of this world. And if His Kingdom isn't of this world, then His word isn't of this world either.. The word of God was only given by God to inspired people He had chosen, His Church isn't of this world. His Church lives in those who believed and filled with the Holy Spirit teaching us all things to come..
Your Church isn't big enough to hold millions of people, you have buildings, Jesus has a kingdom....

Emasearu:
Remember Jesus called Peter "Kephas", which meant "rock". Didn't Jesus give a parable about a man building his house on a rock? Didn't he say that a rock was a solid foundation?
I would like us to end our discussion here. There's an e-book that has a lot of questions you've raised, and their answers. It's here: www.scborromeo.org/glad/glad.pdf and it was written by a Catholic pastor. So he did a much better job than I'm attempting to do. It's not up to 200kB in size.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 1:48am On Oct 04, 2016*

Some believe Moses had written five books of the bible, a man inspired by the Spirit of God, who was sent by God up on the mountain, lets look into the 10 commandments, but he couldn't have written {Deuteronomy 34:5-10} because it spoke of His death. Some other inspired Spirit filled man wrote about Moses death.
Which men wrote the bible it doesn't really matter, every man was inspired by God {John 16:13} But when the Spirit of truth has come He will guide you into all truth, for He shall not speak of Himself, but whatsoever He shall hear, he shall speak, and He will show you things to come.
This is why the bible was written so not only His disciples knew the Lord and the things they seen He had done, and not only through word of mouth, the Spirit of God inspired them to write the bible which is written so the hole world will know Jesus Christ existed and He is Lord.
{John 14:26} The fact is Jesus told His disciples He will send them the Holy Spirit to guide them to remember all things Jesus had told them and done.
{John 15:26} The Father will send the Holy Spirit in My name, He will teach you of all things and remind you of all things I have told you.
{John 16:8} When the Holy Spirit comes He will convict the world about sin. righteousness and judgement..
This proves Mary was a sinner just like you and I.
So this is why Jesus tells His disciples that it is to their advantage that He left them {John 16:7} Because in His leaving, a new helper will be the most sturdy of lifelines to all those who believe upon the gospel.
To receive the Spirit is to receive a helper and advocate for the soul, ONE who will always point to us to Jesus, our redeemer and King, Now this question is for you? Will you listen to Him....

Emasearu:
Thank you for your concern, for you desire to correct me because you think I'm in the wrong. It's truly a work of mercy.
I should add that someone decided what books would make the New Testatment, what books were not inspired. The books of scripture themselves don't mention which books are inspired. Surely someone or something had to have been guided by the Holy Spirit when organising the Bible. You should find out who did that.
Then please ask y'self this: if this group of people were able to create a canon for the Bible, wouldn't they be the authority that is to interpet the Bible?
May God bless you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 12:38am On Oct 04, 2016

Mary was born in sin, like we are born in the same nature. Mary was blessed giving birth to Jesus only because of Her faith she had towards God. Jesus died for the sins of this world {1 John 2:2, 1 Peter 3:18} Christ also suffered once for sins, He did this so we could have life.
He died for us, that means He died for His Mother too. He died for all man kind...

Emasearu:
CalmG sir, this is for you: No, it's not. Those people you mentioned died before Christ came. Mary and the other saints in Heaven received the message of salvation in the time of Christ, and the latter after Christ had left His sheep in Peter's care.
The above is in reply to your question where you mentioned Elijah and Moses. Mary also is different because she was conceived without "original sin", and was chosen to be the Mother of God the Son.
I also ask that you download that e-book I asked "brocab" to d/load. It answers questions like yours.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 12:29am On Oct 04, 2016

Some Catholic's still don't get it?

calmG:
what do you mean by "born without original sin".
It wad only JESUS that sin wasn't found in...Every other person is born with sin..

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 12:55am On Oct 03, 2016*

If you knew the word of God as well as you say you do? Its the word of God that built the Church Jesus built His church on His word, and the words that Peter spoke weren't His own but God Himself spoke through Peter. Peter spoke Gods' words, not His own, so really when we look at the Roman Catholic Church that you say Peter built, He didn't do it on His own accord, the Church was built on the word of God.
Everything we do is based upon God. Peter's flesh done nothing, it was the word of God, the Spirit of God that started the Church..
Jesus's Church is the body. If Jesus's Church was made of brick and mortar He would have preach in it, His Church belonged to Him.
Call it as you see it fit, but not even you believe God's word exist. Read and learn on the next paragraph. The Roman Catholic Church had interpreted their own style of teachings.

Emasearu:
I'm afraid your first sentence is false. Let me show you why. Matthew 16:18 (Today's English Version):-
18. Jesus: "And so I tell you, Peter: you are a rock , and on this rock foundation I will build my church, ..."
Isn't it now obvious that Peter himself was the rock, and not his words (or his faith) as some people claim? What does "your" translation say?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 11:26pm On Oct 02, 2016*

Now you are getting it, you are now saying the body is the Church, the body is the people that makes the Church, not a building or a denomination made of brick and mortar. An interpreter is someone who had changed the word of God, you say you pray for Mary's intercession, there is no where in the bible this is written.
Lets look up some truth about the Roman Catholic Church-The issues of Catholic's praying to saints, is one that is full of confession, It is an official positions of the Roman Catholic Church that Catholic's do not pray to saints, or Mary, but rather that Catholic's can ask saints or Mary to pray for them.
The official position of the Roman Catholic Church is that asking saints for their prayers is no different then asking someone here on earth to pray for us.
However the practises of many Catholic diverges from official Roman Catholic teaching many Catholic's do directly pray directly to saints, or Mary, asking them for help, instead of asking the saints or Mary to intercede with God for help.
What ever the case Where ever, weather a saint or Mary being prayed too or ask to pray, neither practice have any biblical basis.

The bible nowhere instructs believers in Christ to pray to anyone other then God. The bible nowhere encourage, or even mentions, asks individuals in heaven for their prayers. Why then do many Catholic's pray to Mary or their saints, or request their prayers?
Catholic's view Mary and the saints as "intercessors" before God.
They believe that a saint in heaven who is glorified in heaven, "has more direct access" to God than we do.
Therefore if a saint delivers a prayer to God, it is more effective then us praying to God directly. This is unbiblical.
{Hebrews 4:16} That we believers here on earth can approach the throne of Grace with confidence.
{1 Timothy 2:5} For there is one God and mediator between God and Man, the man Christ Jesus. There is no-one else that can mediate with God for us,.
If Jesus is the only mediator, THAT Indicates Mary and the saints can not be mediators, they can not mediate our request to God.
Further the bible tells us that Jesus Christ is interceding for us before the Father. "Therefore He is able to save completely those who come to God through Him, because He always lives to intercede for them {Hebrews 7:25}
With Himself interceding for us, why would we need Mary or the saints, to intercede for us?
Whom would God listen to more closely to His Son? {Romans 8:26-27} describes the Holy Spirit interceding for us, with the second and the third of the Trinity already interceding for us before the Father in Heaven, what possible need to have Mary or the saints to have interceding for us?
Catholic's argue that praying to Mary and the saints are no different to praying for someone on earth. Lets examine that claim?
{1} Paul ask for other Christians to pray for Him {Ephesians 6:9} Many scriptures describe believers praying for one another {2 Corinthians 1:11, Ephesians 1:16, Philippians 1:19, 2 Timothy 1:3}
The bible nowhere mentions anyone asking for someone in Heaven to pray for them. The bible nowhere mentions anyone in Heaven praying for anyone on Earth.
{2} The bible gives no indication that Mary or the saints can hear our prayers here on Earth, Mary and the saints are not omniscient even glorified in heaven, they are still finite being with intimations. How could they possibly hear the prayers of millions of people?
How ever the bible mentions praying or speaking with the dead, it is in the context of sorcery witchcraft, necromancy divination-activities the bible strongly condemns {Leviticus 20:27, Deuteronomy 18:10-13} In one instance when a saint is spoken to when Samuel in {1 Samual 28:7-19:7-19} Samuel is not exactly to be disturbed, it is clear that praying to Mary or the saints is completely different from asking someone here on Earth to pray for us.
One had a strange biblical basis, and the other has no biblical basis at whatsoever.
God does not answer prayers based on who is praying, God answers prayers whether they are ask according to His will {1 John 5:14-15} There is no absolutely or need to pray to anyone other then God alone.
There are no basis for asking those who are in heaven to pray for us.
ONLY GOD CAN HEAR OUR PRAYERS. ONLY GOD AND ANSWER OUR PRAYERS. No-one in heaven has any greater access to God's throne then we do through prayer {Hebrews 4:16}
This should square this up a little, and if anyone is reading this, first go to your bibles and find the truth yourselves. Catholic's pray to the dead rather then praying for the living.

Emasearu:
This is from Eph. 1: "22. And he has put all things under his feet and has made him the head over all things for the church , 23. which is his body , the fullness of him who fills all in all." The emphasis is mine. I hope you now see that the Church is His body. You can look at that passage in "your" bible to get the whole idea of who he was referring to.
Please what interpreter are you referring to? And what do U mean by "around so you believe"? That comma there is confusing.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 10:33pm On Oct 02, 2016

You say you pray directly to God, but if you pray to Mary your prayers are extra powerful? not only is Mary an intercessor we all are.
And you said you seek after her intercession, not only Mary, but his disciples are also in heaven as well as the many millions of disciples who have gone up recently.
Once you are in heaven their is no need to pray for them, they are the ones who have made it, we need to pray for those like us who are still on earth, so one day we also may hit heaven too. We are still saints to Christ here on earth. once we have left earth to be with the lord, we are no longer part of any denomination.
1 Timothy is praying straight to God, not Mary, intercessing for one another is not praying to Mary, its praying straight to God, He has the power, not Mary, He is creator, Not Mary, He is the one that created all of us, not Mary, Mary was the Mother of Jesus, that is all, she isn't even written in the bible to pray to Her. She even became a disciple, she also was in the house with the others when the Holy Spirit was sent by the Lord.
Mediating so She will ask Jesus to help you in life. In the bible we can directly pray to Jesus, everything comes under the name of Jesus, Jesus is the only one who can bring us directly to God, not Mary, and no other person can do such a thing, Mary is like us, man woman can't save us, only Jesus can.
God said pray to Him in your secret place, which can be your bedroom, where ever, it doesn't matter, God needs us, as much as we need Him.

Emasearu:
No, sir. You've either been ignoring what I've been writing, or are just sorely mistaken. I have no fears in praying to God directly, but when I want my prayers to be extra powerful, I seek Mary's intercession. Mary is in Heaven, thus a saint. The saints are still members of the Body of Christ because death doesn't cut them off from the Church. I'll cite some verses later.
Remember that in that passage from Tim. that I gave you, St Paul said "intercession" -- praying [directly] to God on someone's behalf, in this case -- pleases God. Do check verse 4 of the passage, pls.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Solemnnity Of Christ The King, All Catholics Please Stand Up!!! by brocab: 9:02pm On Oct 01, 2016

I just need to ask this question, by the sounds of this page, I need a true and faithful Catholic? Only answer it-if you think you have the knowledge to answer it.
I have noticed you said it's the time of the year to celebrate Jesus Christ the King of the Jews. Don't you Catholic's celebrate Him everyday?
What do you do for the rest of the year huh

This is the difference between us and you Catholic's, we worship Jesus everyday, Mary doesn't even get a mention, we know God had chosen Her to be the Mother of Christ, but she was flesh and blood like us, God came down to live amongst men, but God is Spirit and He became flesh.
And God say's pray to Him, there is no other God. So us believers obey His words, not the words of some interpreter that say's pray to Jesus's Mother.. We worship Jesus everyday, you worship Him one time of the year.
And am I right when I say, you have to pray to Mary first, before you can all celebrate Her Son Jesus? Isn't this how it works inside your Church, you use Mary as your mediator asking Her to protect you, and asking Her to ask Her Son Jesus to forgive you.

SalC:
It is that memorable time of the year again, when Catholics celebrate Jesus Christ as the king of glory,

In Matt 27:37, Mark 15:26, Luke 23:38 and John. 19:19. We see the bible repeating thesame testimony, Jesus, the king of the Jews as right as that may sound, the truth is Jesus is not just the king of the Jews but THE ETERNAL KING OF GLORY

Christians, especially othordox Christian celebrate this truth, Today, the Mother church celebrates this solemnity in grand style

Do you know today's celebration as Corpus Christi or Christ the King? It doesn't matter really, the most important thing is that we celebrate it to the glory of God.

Go to mass!
Join the procession!!
Celebrate and dance even like David did

Jesus Christ is the king, celebrate with much Joy.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 8:25pm On Oct 01, 2016

Jesus didn't founded the Church, He is the Church, and He didn't find the Church on Peter, He found the Church on the words Peter spoke, God the Father used Peter to say truly you are the Son of the living God, this is the word of God that built His Church, the body of Christ is the Church.
Not some religious building made of Brick and mortar you call Rome...
Again an interpreter had changed the scriptures,around so you believe. The Church is the word of God, and plus why did your Church allow Emperor Nero to murder Peter hanging him upside down on a cross, maybe Peter was against the paganism Rome worshipped more then the true God Himself-and cutting Paul's head clean off, which I don't understand is, Peter was a married man, and truly was he, or was he not, the same Peter you Catholic's believed him to be? {1 timothy 3:16} The pillar of the living God is the foundation of the truth. If you become a born again Christian you to will be in God's household...Don't forget Jesus said one must be born again before he can enter into the kingdom of God, and in your case you are born only in side your Church, with evidence followed..

Emasearu:
Thanks for your reply. I would like U to know something. Jesus founded a church, right? If you agree w/ that then you'd know He founded it on Peter (Mt. 16:17-19). Verse 19 meant that that Church will be perpetual and would not teach error. That's attested to by 1 Tim. 3:15, where the Church is referred to as the 'pillar' & 'foundation' of truth (version: NAB).
Could such a church, then, have a false teaching? Given also that it was God Himself who made the promise in that portion of Matthew I quoted.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 8:03pm On Oct 01, 2016

Once someone becomes born again it doesn't matter what bible we read, the Lord directs us to His word. And each time I read my bible, His words come alive in my heart.
In my early years of becoming a Christian and I started to study the bible, I didn't understand many of the scriptures, even thy I had read them over and over, until I asked the Lord in prayer, and He directed me, through His Spirit to understand the verse I wanted to know.
The bible isn't only written in black and white, it is Spiritual, and when the Lord speaks through it, He speaks His word, not the words of the interpreters that keeps on changing the words around in the bible to suit their needs, I suppose they do it, to draw people further away from God ...
The King James is the best and most truthful bibles, I have ever studied, it stands along side the 1611 version.
And Mary's name isn't to be praised and worship, either an Roman Catholic or a Catholic interpreter had added these words for you Catholic's to follow...The word of God say's go into your secret place and pray to God directly, not Mary...

Emasearu:
It's only the Roman Cath. Church that can trace it's headship from Pope Francis up to St Peter in an "unbroken succession". That's a historical fact; you can verify it. So if there's anything she teaches that seems wrong to you, or contrary to the Bible, it can't be that it's a false teaching. It would be that there's either something wrong w/ ur understanding, or that that's not she truly teaches.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 7:44pm On Oct 01, 2016

I can see your Heart-by your knowledge you have toward Jesus, Mary is your mediator.
You can give me, as many scriptures as you wish , but none of the scriptures say's pray directly to Mary, praying for one another isn't praying to the person 'it's praying for the person.
And in your case you would rather pray to Mary-you ask Her to mediate for you so Jesus will forgive you, plus Mary wasn't a Virgin after she had other children after Jesus.
She was the Mother, but she was flesh and blood like you and me...
I don't pray for those in heaven, because I don't know who's their, and I don't know who made it to heaven, sin gets in our way, when I make it to heaven surprise me.
I can only pray for those who the Lord puts it on my heart to pray, people in heaven have made heaven already, its the people on earth who needs praying for.. Not dead saints, not people in Heaven, not people in purgatory {Hell} But the people who are still living, needs our prayers...

Emasearu:
If you look at James 5:16, you would find out that the prayer of a righteous man availeth much, and that we are even "told" to pray for one another. Is there anyone more righteous than those who are already in Heaven? Isn't Mary in Heaven since God's grace kept her from sinning?
1 Tim 2:1-4 is another passage which contradicts the idea of yours that God only permits that we pray to Him directly. In verse 1, the word "intercession" is used. That's the same word we Catholics use when we talk of the Saints and the Blessed Virgin. It's also mentioned that we "pray for one another". I'd like you to consider the points I've raised.
NB: I'm afraid you can't tell what's in my heart as you aren't God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 8:28am On Oct 01, 2016

Even thy you may say my comment of mine sounds offensive, you in the other hand had also agreed with me, you ask Mary to speak to her Son on your behalf? Because she's the Mother with Him in Heaven?
So really Mary comes first in your heart, not Jesus.
See we Christians aren't religious like you Christians, we do what the word tells us to do, we pray directly to God. And In the name of Jesus, His name is above all other names. Mary doesn't even get a mention, Jesus is our mediator 'not Mary..
If you truly accepted Christ into your life, you would know truthfully who you pray too, but because God has not called you into His kingdom , you will always feel someone is insulting you, and your beliefs.
But I am not, I am only speaking the truth....

Emasearu:
I'm sorry, but I find this comment of yours offensive. It seems you're not familiar w/ the Rosary. It's both a prayer and a reflection of the life of "Jesus", and some bits about His mother. As a prayer, it's addressed to God as Trinity; and at certain points of the prayer, to God the Father & God the Holy Spirit. At the Our Father's, we pray directly to God. And at the Hail Mary's to Mary asking her to speak to her Son on our behalf, because she's His mother and with Him in Heaven. We believe that God raised her up in status by making her the Mother of the Word. By that very fact we know she has a special place in Heaven, and that her prayers are very powerful w/ Him. What I think you don't know if that at the end of the prayer, we beg God to answer the prayers that we've made through Mary, the mother of His Son. We in no way by-pass God. If the Son knows that we are just simply asking His mom to put in a good word for us, why would he hate that? . . .

Christianity Etc › Re: BREAKING NEWS: There Is No Hell Fire; Adam & Eve Not Real –––pope Francis Expose by brocab: 1:48am On Oct 01, 2016

Listen to you, you are taken your anger against this person who alone copied "you tube" news across the nations, this news has been travelling fast around the world before this person had sent it, its people like you that causes people like us, to search the truth, because you aren't honest enough to even share about your beliefs to any outsider, I have studied with many other religions, and there's only one truth, and that truth is Christ.
You may say you know Christ, but to be honest does Christ know you. Christ said go out unto all the world and preach His gospel, and all you do is preach the gospel of the Catholic Church..Not His gospel...
{Matthew 7:22} Many will say to Me in that day, Lord Lord have we not Prophesied in your name? And In your name cast out demons, and by thy name do many mighty works. Then the Lord said get away from Me I never knew you depart from Me you workers of lawlessness..

I can only pity your miserable soul for peddling such falsehood against the pope

When your problem starts, I hope you'll remember this post
...Walks out of thread...

Christianity Etc › Re: The Catholic Pope Francis- There Is No Heaven Or Hell And Adam And Eve Not Real by brocab: 1:27am On Oct 01, 2016

You tube has full of live stories as these, and the news is spreading at a faster rate.
If Adam and Eve didn't exist, and people don't need Jesus nor the Father, then the Pope is either making a mockery out of them, or his making a mockery out from us?
Plus who is the Pope anyway, is he just a man.

Christianity Etc › Re: Higher Everyday — Making Wrong Right by brocab: 1:21am On Oct 01, 2016

Not only she but He, God told Adam not to eat of the fruit of the Garden. Did God tell Eve? or did Adam?

OLAADEGBU:
Higher Everyday
FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 30, 2016

STOP CHATTING WITH SATAN

"And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden" (Genesis 3: 2)

She found her new friend very charming and amiable. He seemed knowledgeable and logical with answers ready for any question. She felt so much at ease in the presence of this new stranger that she readily went into intimate conversation with him. She so trusted the wisdom and intention of this stranger that she was ready to push the boundaries of her liberty and take some calculated risks. But unknown to her, Eve was chatting with Satan, her greatest enemy! The outcome was not pleasant, neither for Eve nor for the rest of humanity.

While Chatting Online, teenagers tend to confide their lives' problems, their thoughts and feelings to chatting partners moments after starting their conversation. By so doing, many youths have been lured into conversation with Satan unwittingly. Some have revealed important personal details like phone numbers and house addresses to online friends. Many have fallen prey to predators, molesters and kidnappers through mischievous chat-room friends. Beware! Satan has gone online!

• Challenge: "With loose lips Eve exposed her heart to Satan"

• Prayer: "Protect me from mischievous chatroom friends, O Lord"

• Quote: "Satan has gone online"

• Further Reading: 2 Corinthians 11:13-15

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 1:17am On Oct 01, 2016

The truth of this matter is, they pray the rosary's because they haven't found Jesus in their hearts...

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 9:50pm On Sep 29, 2016*

Having all these other religions is only a start for them, everyone needs something, all needs someone to glorify their life's, coming to Christ isn't that easy, if the Father isn't calling you, you just become religious, but its a start.
After the Father calls you, and you agree to come to Christ, baptised in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit then your new life begins, and your old life had passed away, and the Holy Spirit starts teaching you through the bible..
All these other religions who believe they can get into heaven without the Father calling them, they are barking up the wrong tree. Everyone who's born again, are not baptised under the churches banner, but Christ Himself. Christ saves you, not the church. Lets say the Roman Catholic's,or the Catholic's the JW's the Mormons or even the Muslims, these are the ones who disagrees who Christ really is, only Christ can save you, your Church buildings and the people in them can't save you. No-one can go to the Father without Jesus..And Christ said one must be born again before he can enter into the kingdom of God, and if you think there is a back door into heaven, again you are barking up the wrong tree.
Born again Christians have church building like everybody else, but the differences is we have the Holy Spirit living in each of us, giving us discernment, that questions the word of God, when it is spoken in Church or outer Church..
When it is spoken with non believers, and so called believers..The bible is our tool given to us by God Himself. And through it God speaks through us to share it with others.
This is the many reasons why other religions argue against us, its because they are not filled with the Spirit of God, Jesus said if you believe in Me you will be prosecuted {Matthew 5: 11,10:22, 24:9. 2 Timothy 3:12}
So you see, those who refuse Christ fully, are the prosecutors, and when the time comes who will stand for Christ huh

Don't forget fellow Christians many are called and few are chosen, don't be like them, stick to the narrow road and keep of the Highways. ..

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Christianity Etc › Re: If God Knew Satan Will Rebel And Adam And Eve Will Sin, Why Did He Create Them? by brocab: 9:20pm On Sep 29, 2016

You should write a book, is this all you have to say?

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

You are not a Christian.

Every Tom, Dick, and Harry calls themselves a Christian.

You are a LIAR.

No REAL Christian HIDES THEIR Christian IDENTITY, and lets themselves be associated and confused with the many corrupt Denominations and Sects.

STOP.

How do you know that GOD IS "OMNISCIENT."

WHO told you THAT?

Where in The Bible did God EVER claim such an Attribute?

You see, Readers, the DECEIVERS Work by introducing FALSE PREMISES, so that they can present insoluble Problems.

God went out of His Way to let Moses know that HE WAS NOT ALL-KNOWING.

. GENESIS 3:1-13.

NOW the Serpent was more subtil than any Beast of the Field which The LORD God had made. And he said unto the Woman,
"Yea, hath God said,
'Ye shall not eat of every Tree of the Garden?'"
2. And the Woman said unto the Serpent,
"We may eat of the Fruit of the Trees of the Garden:
3. "But of the Fruit of the Tree which (is) in the midst of the Garden, God hath said,
'Ye shall not eat of It, neither shall ye touch It, lest ye die.' "
4. The Serpent said unto the Woman,
"Ye shall not surely die:
5. "For God doth know that in the day that ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, Knowing Good and Evil."
6. And when the Woman saw that the Tree (was) Good for Food, and that it (was) Pleasant to the Eyes, and a Tree to be Desired to make (one) Wise, she took of the Fruit thereof, and did Eat, and gave also unto her Husband with her; and he did eat.
7. And the Eyes of them both were Opened, and they Knew that they (were) Naked: and they sewed Fig Leaves together, and made themselves Aprons.
8. And they heard The Voice of The LORD God walking in the Garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the Presence of The LORD God among the Trees of the Garden.
9. And The LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him,
"Where art thou?"
10. And he said unto him,
"I heard Thy Voice in The Garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself."
11. And He said,
"Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the Tree, whereof I Commanded thee, that thou shouldest not eat?"
12. And the man said,
"The Woman whom Thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the Tree, and I did eat."
13. And The LORD God said unto the Woman,
"What is this that thou hast done?"
And the Woman said,
"The Serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."

IF GOD WERE OMNISCIENT- ALL KNOWING- HE SHOULD NEVER ASK WHAT HAPPENED- HE COULD TELL PEOPLE WHAT HAPPENED.

. GENESIS 18:17-33.

17. And The LORD Said,
"Shall I hide from Abraham
That Thing which I Do;
18. "Seeing that Abraham
shall surely become
a great and mighty nation,
and all the nations of the Earth
shall be Blessed in him?
19. "For I know
that he will command his children
and his household after him,
and they shall keep
The Way of The LORD,
to do Justice and Judgment;
that The LORD may bring
upon Abraham that
which He hath spoken of him."
20. And The LORD Said,
"Because the Cry
of Sodom and Gomorrah is great,
and because their Sin
is very grievous;
21. "I will go down now,
and see whether
they have done altogether
according to the Cry of it,
which is come unto Me;
and if not, I will know."
22. And the men turned
their faces from thence,
and went toward Sodom:
but Abraham stood yet
before The LORD.
23. And Abraham drew near and said,
"Wilt thou also Destroy
the Righteous with the Wicked?
24. "Peradventure there be
fifty Righteous within the city:
wilt thou also Destroy
and not Spare the place
for the fifty Righteous
that (are) therein?
25. "That be far from thee
to do after this manner,
to slay the Righteous
with the Wicked:
and that the Righteous
should be as the Wicked,
that be far from thee:
Shall not The Judge of all the Earth
Do Right?"
26. And The LORD Said,
"If I find in Sodom fifty Righteous
within the city,
then I will Spare all the place
for their sakes."
27. And Abraham answered and said,
"Behold now,
I have taken upon me
to speak unto The LORD,
which (am but) dust and ashes:
28. "Peradventure there shall lack
five of the fifty Righteous:
wilt thou destroy all the city
for (lack of) five?
And He Said,
"If I find there forty and five,
I will not destroy (it)."
29. And he spake unto him yet again,
and said,
"Peradventure there shall be
forty found there."
And He Said,
"I will not Do (it) for forty's sake."
30. And he said unto (him),
"Oh let not The LORD be angry,
and I will yet speak:
'Peradventure there shall thirty
be found there."
And He Said,
"I will not Do (it),
if I Find thirty there."
31. And he said,
"Behold now,
I have taken upon me
to speak unto The Lord:
'Peradventure there shall be twenty
found there."
And He Said,
"I will not Destroy (it) for twenty's sake."
32. And he said,
"Oh let not The Lord be angry,
and I will speak yet but this once:
'Peradventure ten shall be found there.' "
And He Said,
"I will not destroy (It) for ten's sake."
33. And The LORD went His Way,
as soon as He had left
communing with Abraham:
and Abraham returned unto his place.

THIS IS A BIBLE TEACHING OF CRUCIAL IMPORTANCE.

GOD revealed that He would spare the Wickedest of Cities, if He could find ONE MINYAN therein.

This Teaching means nothing to YOU, as it means nothing to the HYPOCRITES on NAIRALAND.

GOD CAME TO EARTH TO CONFIRM THE SITUATION IN SODOM AND GOMORRAH. An All-Knowing Being would not need to do that.

ANY CREATION CONTAINS A RECORD OF ITS BEGINNING AND ITS NATURAL END.

This can be seen by a Seer of sufficient Power.

Knowing these two things does not make one "omniscient."

THAT IS AN IDLE SPECULATION ON YOUR PART.

You offer NO PROOF of this BLASPHEMOUS THEORY.

The cheap Hypocrite Shills do not need to bother with punctuation?

. DEUTERONOMY 29:29.

29. The Secret (Things belong)
unto The LORD our God:
but those (things which are)
revealed (belong) unto us
and to our children for ever,
that we may do
all The Words of This Law.

EVEN IF THAT WERE THE CASE, HOW IS IT YOUR BUSINESS TO KNOW SUCH THINGS? WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO ASK SUCH A QUESTION?

. ISAIAH 55:6-11.

6. Seek ye The LORD
while He may yet be found,
call ye upon Him while He is near.
7. "Let the Wicked forsake his way,
and the Unrighteous man his Thoughts:
and let him return unto The LORD,
and He will have Mercy upon him;
and to our God,
for He shall Abundantly Pardon.
8."For My Thoughts
(are) not your thoughts,
Neither (are) your ways
My Ways," saith The LORD.
9. "For (as) the Heavens
are higher than the Earth,
So are My Ways
higher than your ways,
And My Thoughts
than your thoughts.
10. "For as the rain cometh down,
and the snow from from Heaven,
and returneth not thither,
but watereth the Earth,
and maketh It bring forth and bud,
that It may give seed to the Sower,
and Bread to the Eater:
11. "So shall My Word be
That goeth forth out of My Mouth:
It shall not return unto me void,
but It shall accomplish that
which I please,
and It shall prosper (in the thing)
whereto I sent It."

GOD'S THOUGHTS ARE HOLY KNOWLEDGE WHICH IS NOT FOR THE DOGS- SUCH AS YOURSELF.

KNOW YOUR PLACE.

REALLY?

How do you KNOW that?

Who told you that people BURN in HELL?

. DANIEL 3:13-30.

13. Then Nebuchadnezzar in his rage and fury commanded to bring Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Then they brought these men before the king.
14. Nebuchadnezzar spake and said unto them,
"Is it true,O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, do not ye serve my gods, nor worship the golden image which I have set up?
15. "Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?
16. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, answered and said to the king,
"O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter.
17. "If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and He will deliver us out of thine hand, O king.
18 "But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up."
19. Then was Nebuchadnezzar full of fury, and the form of his visage was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego: therefore he spake, and commanded that they should heat the furnace one seven times more than it was wont to be heated. 20. And he commanded the most mighty
men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.
21. Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.
22. Therefore because the king’s commandment was urgent, and the furnace exceeding hot, the flame of the fire slew
those men that took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego.
23. And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.
24. Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellers,
"Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire?"
They answered and said unto the king,
"True, O king."
25. He answered and said,
"Lo, I see four men loose, walking in
the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God."
26. Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said,
"Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, ye Servants of The Most High God, come forth,
and come hither."
Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego,
came forth of the midst of the fire.
27 And the princes, governors, and captains, and the king’s counsellers, being. gathered together, saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them.
28. Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said,
"Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king's word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God.
29. "Therefore I make a Decree,
'That every people, nation, and language,
which speak any thing amiss
against the God
of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego,
shall be cut in pieces,
and their houses
shall be made a dunghill:
because there is no other God
that can deliver after this sort.' "
30. Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, in the province of Babylon.

MISHAEL, HANANIAH, AND AZARIAH WERE THROWN INTO A FURNACE SO HOT, THAT IT KILLED THE WICKED PEOPLE WHO THREW THEM IN.

Not only were THEY not harmed, neither were their CLOTHES.

They did not suffer torment, nor agony.

IN 1953, a US NAVY Sailor, KEN CANTRELL was on the 17th day of an experimental Fast, when there was an accident in the CATAPULT room of the ship he served on- THE LAKE CHAMPLAIN.

HE reported that HE could not FEEL the Flames, even as his fellow crew burned to death around him.

He wandered about in the inferno for thirty minutes, before a Voice told him not be afraid, but leave.

This required him to use a red hot tool (called a DOG-WRENCH,) to open the red-hot door- bare-handed.

He did it without injury, and walked out- the sole survivor.

[TODAY, THE U.S. NAVY CLAIMS THAT THAT NEVER HAPPENED.]

YOU ARE A DESPICABLE LIAR.

If you cared about the people in HELL, you would have been RAISING THEM FROM THE DEAD!

. JOHN 14:12.

12. "Verily, verily, I say unto you,

'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME
THE WORKS THAT I DO
SHALL HE DO ALSO;'

and Greater (Works)
than these
shall he do;
because I go
unto my Father."

HE GAVE YOU THE POWER.

Any person you feel YAHWEH GOD THE CREATOR did not know what He was doing, sending them to HELL- RAISE THEM UP!

GOOD LUCK living with them all.

WHO TOLD YOU THAT WE ARE TO FOLLOW GOD BY FAITH?

FAITH is for the BLIND.

YAHSHUA called us to SEE GOD.

. MATTHEW 5:8.

8. "Blessed (are) the Pure in Heart;
for they shall see God."

TO OPEN THE SEVEN EYES- SEVEN POWERS GREATER THAN FAITH- TO SEE GOD, INSTEAD OF GROPING AROUND.

. 2^nd PETER 1:5-9.

5. And beside this,
giving all diligence,
add to your Faith Virtue;
and to Virtue Knowledge;
6. And to Knowledge Temperance;
and to Temperance Patience;
and to Patience Godliness;
7. And to Godliness Brotherly Kindness;
and to Brotherly Kindness Charity.
8. For if these things be in you,
and abound,
they make (you that ye shall)
neither (be) barren nor unfruitful
in The Knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9. But he that lacketh
these things is blind,
and cannot see afar off,
and hath forgotten
that he was purged
from his Old Sins.

PAUL, THE FALSE APOSTLE, TRIED TO KEEP HIS CHURCHES BLIND.

. 2^nd CORINTHIANS 5:7.

7. [For we walk by Faith, not by sight:]

IT IS OUR DUTY TO SUPERSEDE THE LIMITATIONS HE TRIED TO IMPOSE ON CHRISTIANS.

. LUKE 6:39-42.

39. "And he spake a Parable unto them,
Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
40. "The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
41. "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
42. "Either how canst thou say to thy Brother,

'Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye,'

when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt
thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye."

DOGS ARE OFTEN FOUND IN DITCHES.

IF YOU WERE A CHRISTIAN YOU WOULD ASK YOUR PRIEST.

. LEVITICUS 24:10-16.

10. And the son of an Israelitish woman, whose father was an Egyptian,
went out among the Children of Israel:
and this son of the Israelitish woman
and a Man of Israel strove together
in the camp;
11. And the Israelitish woman's son
Blasphemed The Name of The LORD,
and Cursed.
And they brought him unto Moses:
[and his mother's name was Shelomith,
the daughter of Dibri,
of the tribe of Dan:]
12. And they put him in ward,
that The Mind of The LORD
might be shewed them.
13. And The LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
14. "Bring forth him that hath Cursed
without the Camp;
and let all that heard him
lay their hands upon his head,
and let all the Congregation Stone him.
15. "And thou shalt speak
unto the Children of Israel, saying,

'WHOSOVER CURSETH HIS GOD
SHALL BEAR HIS SIN.'

16. "And he that Blasphemeth
The Name of The Lord,
he shall surely be put to Death,
(and) all the Congregation
shall certainly Stone him:
as well the Stranger,
as he that is Born in the Land,
when He Blasphemeth
The Name (of The LORD),
he shall be put to Death."

YOU WOULD NOT BLASPHEME GOD IN FRONT OF UNBELIEVERS.

Christianity Etc › Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by brocab: 11:37am On Sep 28, 2016

Ubenedictus:
HEHEHEHE, I couldnt help laughing, someone has degraded the word of God because it doesnt agree with his church doctrine. so james was not inspired and speaking of d holyspirit when he wrote those word.

u have rejected d bible.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab: 11:34am On Sep 28, 2016

May God help even more

Ubenedictus:
HEHEHE MAY GOD HELP U.

Christianity Etc › Re: Confessing Your Sins To A Priest. by brocab: 11:20pm On Sep 27, 2016

Firstly we also give our testimonies to each other, we share about our problems issues, we have people praying for us everyday, some apostles, some prophets, some teachers, some evangelist, or in the name of Jesus we all have these gifts, not just one priest, we are all priest in the name of the Lord.
The stories about Jesus in {John 20:22-23} because He is the only one who can give the Holy Spirit.
{Acts 3:6} A man who was lame was being carried to the temple gate called beautiful, where he was put everyday to beg from those going into the temple courts, When he saw Peter and John, about to enter, he asked them for money"Peter looked straight at him, as did John, Then Peter said look at us" So the man gave them his attention, expecting to get something from them.
Then Peter said silver and Gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth walk..
And the man walked...Can your priest do such miracles?
Secondly {James 5:1-16} Call for the elders of the Church to anoint them with the oil in the name of the Lord..Pray for each other so the Lord will raise them up. confess your sins, with one another in the name of the Lord, and they are forgiven.
So you see bro, not even your priest can forgive sins, nor heal, nor anoint, without the name of Jesus...

Pdizzle:
Although im a catholic, i read a lot of prostestant devotionals since we all serve the same God. On reading my open heavens this morning, i saw pastor Adeboye taking a jab at the catholics concerning the way they confess their sins to priests, saying penance does not grant you forgiveness.
We got discussing about it and we made reference to bible passages such as john 20:22-23 and james 5:14-16. Pls what are your opinions on these.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Have Cursed God by brocab: 10:45pm On Sep 27, 2016

Sometimes God doesn't answer the way we would like Him to answer, and sometimes people ask what they already have.
And sometimes God is speaking with us through others who come across your path-because He knows you aren't ready, In most cases we seem to take our problems away from Gods Hands and do this on our own accord.
And every time you call out to Him, He is their, waiting... Waiting for you to allow Him to fix the problem you need Him to fix the right way...

I called and called upon his name no changes in my situation. I am running out of patience with this dumb imaginary God whom I grew up serving without getting anything in return. He is a failure and he derives joy in our pains and challenges. It shall never be well with God

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab: 11:17pm On Sep 26, 2016*

Maybe you recognise the kid in yourself, and because of your lack of knowledge about the bible, you only believe you are right while everyone is wrong. Another believer that only believes His/hers church will see heaven before everybody else..
This argument between these Churches needs to stop, the truth of the matter is we either follow the word of God and learn His way, and obey Him, all we can refuse to listen to Him and none of us will see His kingdom...
The problem is with these Churches today is people not God are changing His words unto their own words, lets look into the purgatory lie. Paying large amounts of cash, to take themselves out or others out of Hell.
The word says once you are in Hell no-one is set free. The bible teaches that only those who have asked Jesus to forgive their sins will go to heaven, and those who have not will go to Hell. Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life, No-one comes to the Father accept through Me..
He made it clear there is one way to get into heaven and combined with many other scriptures that says the same thing in different ways, this is accepted by most bible scholars. As he accurate answer to "what must I do to go to heaven" So what happens to those who don't want anything to do with Jesus and not asked him to forgive their sins? {In your case you ask a priest to forgive your sin}
According to the bible they go to Hell, what is most important to understand through, is that no-one will send you to Heaven or Hell. Where ever you end up will be the place where "you choose" to go" the reason for this is because you have a free will, the right you choose and no-one will force you to believe what you didn't want to. Not even God..
But only God knows when the day of judgement happens, Then I saw a great white throne, and Him who was seated on it- and I saw the dead great and small, standing before the throne,, and the books were opened, Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books, and each person was judge to what they had done. And everyone who was not found in the book of life, was thrown into the lake of fire.
So this purgatory lie, isn't the word of God, you can't buy your way out of Hell, God will judge as His word say's He will. And don't forget their are many Christians in Hell today, prosperity preaches, men and women who loved themselves and their idol's more then God. etc...Everyone will be judged on judgement day, and those who aren't written in the the books will end up in the lake of fire..
I suppose you know the bible like the back of your hand, and this is like child's play to you, And of course this isn't serious enough for your intellectual head knowledge.. And yet the bible was written to be simple minded..But of course you haven't worked that out yet?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Catholic Pope Francis- There Is No Heaven Or Hell And Adam And Eve Not Real by brocab: 7:21am On Sep 26, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFacOm09qNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcpVrtv2t-M if this doesn't say it all, nothing will.

princechinedu:
One man who is out to open many old “secrets” in the Catholic church is Pope Francis. Some of Me beliefs that are held in the church but contrary to the loving nature of God are now being set aside by the Pope who was recently name The Man of The Year by TIME Magazine.
In his latest revelations, Pope Francis said:
“Through humility, soul searching, and prayerful contemplation we have gained a new understanding of certain dogmas. The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer. This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity. God seeks not to condemn but only to embrace. Like the fable of Adam and Eve, we see hell as a literary device. Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God.”

In a shocking speech that is reverberating across the world, Pope Francis declared that:

“All religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them. What other kind of truth is there? In the past, the church has been harsh on those it deemed morally wrong or sinful. Today, we no longer judge. Like a loving father, we never condemn our children. Our church is big enough for heterosexuals and homosexuals, for the pro-life and the pro-choice! For conservatives and liberals, even communists are welcome and have joined us. We all love and worship the same God.”
In the last six months, Catholic cardinals, bishops and theologians have been deliberating in the Vatican City, in discussing the future of the church and redefining long-held Catholic doctrines and dogmas. The Third Vatican Council, is the largest and most important since the Second Vatican Council was concluded in 1962.

Pope Francis convened the new council to “finally finish the work of the Second Vatican Council.”
The Third Vatican Council concluded with Pope Francis announcing that…
Catholicism is now a “modern and reasonable religion, which has undergone evolutionary changes. The time has come to abandon all intolerance. We must recognize that religious truth evolves and changes. Truth is not absolute or set in stone. Even atheists acknowledge the divine. Through acts of love and charity the atheist acknowledges God as well, and redeems his own soul, becoming an active participant in the redemption of humanity.”

One statement in the Pope’s speech has sent traditionalists into a fit of confusion and hysteria…

“God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts. When we spread love and kindness in the world, we touch our own divinity and recognize it. The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated. Some even call for intolerance or judgement. The time has come to see these verses as later interpolations, contrary to the message of love and truth, which otherwise radiates through scripture. In accordance with our new understanding, we will begin to ordain women as cardinals, bishops and priests. In the future, it is my hope that we will have a woman pope one day. Let no door be closed to women that is open to men!”
A few cardinals in the Catholic church are against Pope Francis’ latest declarations. Watch out for the report.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THESE STATEMENTS….DROP YOUR COMMENTS!!!

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Catholic Pope Francis- There Is No Heaven Or Hell And Adam And Eve Not Real by brocab: 7:09am On Sep 26, 2016

Aren't you the one who said their is no Roman Catholic Church anywhere to be found-and now you are telling us viewers this is a big lie...

SalC:
Why do people take the words of a blogger so serious that they couldn't even see the glaring lies in it?

Like seriously 3rd vatican council? Convened by who? Where? The second vatican council took place in the 60s and no other council have been held till date.

If ever the catholic church want to hold a 3rd vatican council, it will be in the media even before it starts.

This write up is nothing but a big lie

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 7:03am On Sep 26, 2016

Amen

johnw74:
God is a Spirit:
Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

The Spirit of God raised Jesus:
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you,....

The Holy Spirit is God.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab: 1:30am On Sep 26, 2016*

How hard is it for someone to search the truth, since I became a Christian my own beliefs in Christ, was I always wanting to know the truth, and even in my own Church I studied to find even born again Christians are ripping God off, by their prosperity preaching, working against the Kingdom of God, and building a kingdom for themselves here on Earth. Which of course it is no different to the Purgatory lie..Teaching wrong doctrines, worshipping mammon more then God Himself. Another form of idol worship.
I watch our people dying everyday not knowing the word of God, not reading their bibles, not studying the word of any sort. Bitching and winching, about who's which Church will end up in Heaven before the end comes.
Men and women that claim their Church was the Church made by the Lord Himself, to be honest Jesus wouldn't dare to step inside most of these Churches today.
Why" we may ask, not even the Spirit of God enters into sin.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab: 12:23am On Sep 26, 2016

Was Jesus their when your Church began? "NO'" Obvious you don't know the word of God, Peter said truly you are the Son of the living God, these words didn't come from Him, these words were spoken by God the Father through Peter, without any argument from Jesus..
And I unto you That you are Peter, and on this Rock {which was the word of God he spoke} I will build My Church, and the Gates of Hell will not prevail against it,.
So what does the Romans do they built a building full of pagan beliefs, and what does Constantine do he mixed pagan religion which Christian beliefs..
God will not be mocked...

9inches:
You are a kid, else you should have known by nowJesus Christ Himself founded and commissioned the Catholic Church. He also gave his apostles (not everyone) the power to forgive or uphold sins. He also handed Peter the keys of heaven and promised the church that He will be with them untill the end of time.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:32pm On Sep 25, 2016

I have been into kingdom hall and theirs nothing their, the Spirit of the lord protected me, in the house of the dead...

simonjassy:
you can lie oh...... one of my female friends is a Jehovah witness and I have attended your Christian meetings several times and they always sang hymns accompanied by a music sound system playing the tune in the background.... if you want to see for yourself self go the KINGDOM HALL. aeroplane drive congregations, trans amadi, port -Harcourt

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab: 11:05pm On Sep 25, 2016*

Prove your theory, I know more about the Catholic Church then you do...You only know about the outer history, the so called love to whom? Your write ups shows your desires for the Lord are nil. By their fruit we will know them-and your fruit doesn't exist....
Studying up about your Church, and through my own experiences, with the Catholic Church, who call themselves men and women of God really shows a strange way of showing it, matter of fact they don't preach the word of God as it stands, they preach it with fear.
They murdered men and women, who had chosen to accept the Lord, men and women who died in the name of Jesus.
Children were taken away from their parents, under witchcraft some sacrificed, others murdered, many sexually raped, and abused or in the name of the Catholic Church.

If you looked more into your history, you would know why the Catholic Church turned against the Christ, and of cause the Lord's disciples Peter and Paul were murdered by Emperor Nero, and what did the Church do about it, Nothing.
This is the Man that you say started the Catholic Church-a man that walk side by side with Jesus-a man who was filled with the Holy Spirit , A man who knew the truth about Christ.
And Emperor Nero murdered Him, because it was the disciples that preached the truth about Christ and not pagan idol worship.
And your pagan worship is used still until this day.
Jesus didn't like the Pharisees back then, and He still don't like them now.
The Catholic Church is great on the outside but inside they are full of dead mans bones, and we have the evidence inside the Vatican, that not even they will enter into the kingdom of Heaven, nor allow anybody else, to go into it either.
This is the truth you keep refusing to mention, trying to draw people into your kingdom of purgatory Hell. Repent in the name of Jesus turn away from the gates of Hell, come and join us and be set free in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord our savour.
So don't write this hog wash you know more about the inter history about your Church, people just need to read up about your history, and if they a clever enough they will search the truth about your Church today. Catholic Priest who claim they are men of God are still under investigation of Child Molesting, more then once....
People aren't looking for the lies-they want truth-don't forget we are spreading the gospel across the nations, and that gospel is even to you.
The Catholic Church always seem to cover up on these terrible mistakes they keep on repeating, the problem is they turn to each other asking for their forgiveness, instead of turning to God Almighty Himself...
The word of God say's He is the only one who can forgive the sins of men... Not priest...
And besides you rely on your master scholars "men 'not Christ" to lead your way-try asking the Lord yourselves He is the only Lord who will lead you to all truth. Jesus Christ is Lord...

9inches:
I can conclude you are not a Christian. You neither know what Christianity means, nor its history. Take my advice - give yourself a couple more years to mature before you delve into this kind of argument. Because you seem like a lost and confused sheep who keeps wandering about searching for his owner.

Just go learn your bible from the masters/scholars. Then we can talk about the Catholic Church. You are not yet wired to grasp some religious theologies for now.

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