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I believe you" to an extent-everyone of God's creations are nice people, we all have the same quantification's, built in each of us. "Love".
But when people try and force others to believe in their lies-they don't become nice anymore-they are Wolves in sheep clothing.
I speak to many JW's nicely-they will even try and preach their own gospel to you-but as soon as you reject their gospel, they turn their backs and black list you-from them for eternity. Yes they are nice people, nice enough to walk away.
Charity works doesn't make people Christians-even the Atherist are great on charity work.
So you are Catholic so why don't you become a JW-your hearts already directed that way.
But I have a better solution for you-why don't you become a Born again Christian and get to know Christ personally in your heart.
Making this sort of discussion will change you inside out completely-and you yourself will know between the good and the evil with great discernment..

GuruMario:
I am not JW and will never be because I love being a catholic. but I love jw's very much. They are very polite. Smart . Intelligent and above all united set of people. I love them and can spend a day not eating as far as I have their magazine with me.
JW's love charity and helping to lessen the poor sick and needy's suffering. I do too, am I've created a forum for us all to come together and comfort the needy. But I wonder if people will love joining such forum. Will you my JW frnds? Here us the url www.fleximeet.mybb.im/register.php. Hope to see u as we wipe tears from faces.

Johnw74 corrected your lies quite well..

Barristter07:
brocab



they worship Jehovah whom the bible called the " MOST HIGH" . Psalm83:18


Jesus cannot be Jehovah since definitely Jesus is not the most high, any objection ?

So if Dolphinheart believes there are other God's then he needs to figure out which God he recognises-which God he worships?
Jehovah means Lord right? But he treats the Lord, like this, the JW's had given Him the above name above all. The Almighty.
So without him ever understanding it, the JW's had recognised the lord as the Almighty, we Christians know God and Jesus carries the same name.
So the question is, "which god do they truly worship in their hearts?
JW's plus the Mormons and the Seven day Adventist walk side by side, they all believe in the same Rubbish-and when we look into it a little further we have nutters everywhere-some believe they were reincarnated and they returned back as Jesus, and there followers will always be followers.
All of these denominations have got to answer to the Lord when Judgement day arrives. It's a large risk to take, Jesus said go out unto all nations preaching His Gospel-not their gospel..
Many like the JW's believe Jesus was the Archangel Michael-so the truth is they worship after angels-and of course it is forbidden to do so.
But do they listen-preachers a business people-they either preach the truth about the gospel, or they steer it away from God's creation.
We just need to see the evidence around us..

solite3:
Cc John, brocab
Dolphinheart just admit that there are other gods besides Jehovah God.

Bless Dolphinheart's heart-finely he is looking in the opposite direction.
Even if Jehovah means Lord-they recognise and worship Him as the Almighty God. And they don't even know it..

johnw74:
false jw's believe that mighty God is Jesus and almighty God is Jehovah

Christians know that where the Bible uses the names of almighty God and mighty God, it is speaking of the same one true God.

Jehover is called mighty God in the Bible, very many more times than He is called almighty God.

People can read any book-and not become part of it-but without living it-and knowing Christ-the book is just a book..
And in your case-Christ is just a book.
Quoting scriptures proves nothing to anybody.

achorladey:
@brocab... You dont seem to understand what I wrote. Can the JWs say they are not christians and still make good use of John 3v16? The JWs produced the book' The greatest man who ever lived' and yet in your own heart you believe they are not christians or do not accept christ. The JWs sees the Ransom as Jehovah's greatest gift. Yet you still believe they do not accept christ. Hope you have a clear view of my point earlier.

But see that's the problem if the JW's really knew Christ in the first place-people couldn't turn away to become Atheist.

Barristter07:
brocab



there are other translations out there which says Jehovah said to My Lord


"Jehovah saith unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool." ASV



"{Psalm of David.} Jehovah said unto my Lord, Sit at my right hand, until I put thine enemies [as] footstool of thy feet." Darby

Do you have any issue with these ?



how many Ex Jw have you met , you will be surprised that many Ex JW left only to pursue worldly pleasures , majority lose interest in the God and Bible and some turned atheist . some who seem to hold on to the bible becomes sit at home Christians forsaking Hebrew 10:24,25 and isolating themselves, something the scripture advised against . why? they have known the truth, and their conscience won't allow them join most religion that preach lies. and since they have left their source of truth , they just stray from believing in God altogether . hehehehehehehe who lose .

I wonder where the name Jehovah came from, it sounds silly in the bible-Jehovah means God-and if the JW's call Jehovah God-then really they are saying God God? If the Jews knew about it, it would be spelt Yehovah.
And I have met heaps of X JW's they are everywhere.

Barristter07:
brocab



there are other translations out there which says Jehovah said to My Lord


"Jehovah saith unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool." ASV



"{Psalm of David.} Jehovah said unto my Lord, Sit at my right hand, until I put thine enemies [as] footstool of thy feet." Darby

Do you have any issue with these ?



how many Ex Jw have you met , you will be surprised that many Ex JW left only to pursue worldly pleasures , majority lose interest in the God and Bible and some turned atheist . some who seem to hold on to the bible becomes sit at home Christians forsaking Hebrew 10:24,25 and isolating themselves, something the scripture advised against . why? they have known the truth, and their conscience won't allow them join most religion that preach lies. and since they have left their source of truth , they just stray from believing in God altogether . hehehehehehehe who lose .

So you are saying the JW's didn't print the King James Bibles on the press?
Well well haven't you got something to learn about-this is properly the switch they made given God a new name Jehovah..

dolphinheart:
oh my!, SEE LIES!!!

Well then if the JW's don't accept Christ Yet-then how do you call yourselves Christian?

achorladey:
@BroCab The JWs do not accept christ yet they use John 3 :16 in many of there books, brochures and magazines that discuss Jesus or the Ransom sacrifice(Jehovah’s Greatest gift). They do not accept christ yet they produce the book 'the greatest man who ever lived'. Learn to apply scriptures properly. It will do you good.

But the problem is, David said-The Lord said to My lord-he didn't say Jehovah said to My Lord.
Matter of fact when the JW's were publishing the King James Bible-Back around the early 1900's the JW's would use the King James until around 1950's even after they published the New World Translation.
A slight problem the JW's made they had removed and twisted most translations that was written in their own bible, which of course many thousands had left the JW organisation, with the false prophesies Farmers and stock men wouldn't grow Crops, breed shocks because of the false religion the JW's decided to follow after the lie, rather than the truth.
Which of course caused an up-roar within the Watchtower organisation, confusion struct, and people from around the globe-leaving the JW's later finding Christ, and as time went by-the X JW's had managed to stay with the King James bible finding the truth in their hearts about Christ and many are saved.
Through time we see the evidence had changed-so I understand how lost you are-this is why you disagree with the King James bible, only because the Watchtower looses thousands daily, because the NWT Bible doesn't hold the manuscripts as it should. The King James Bible holds the greatest title in bible history, a selling bible that sold billions, while your bible doesn't even get a mention..
The truth will set you free-just ask an X JW..

dolphinheart:
You don't know who was talking to who ? Here it is again :
Ps 110:1 Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”

the verse above tells you who was talking to who and what the person said.

The scriptures has shown to you how what that person said was fulfilled, Jehovah(God, the most high, almighty, supreme one) sits jesus(his son, servant, messiah, appointed one, his apostle) at his right hand.
The prophecies said this, the scriptures recorded this , Stephen even saw a vision of jesus at the right hand of God!

You are a dreamer-JW's don't get handed down anything from the Lord-you don't accept Christ, you maybe the head of your wife-but Jesus isn't the head of you, you and your organisation doesn't even recognise Him. So how can you claim He is the head of Man.
When you claim that Jehovah God is the only God that exist..

achorladey:
@Brocab Then it just proves it' your God isn't "My God. That settles it.
My own conclusion is this. If I am to be in a function where am to deliver a public talk, top dignitaries includes Jehovah (the Almighty God), Jesus christ( the only begotten Son of God) the angels were all present including humans like BroCab, Solite3 Dolphinheart Johnw74 were present. Apostle Paul is the coordinator of the programme for the day and he handed down to me(achorladey) the hierarchy of dignitaries present as stated in 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you(achorladey) know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
I achorladey boldly state here I dare not go beyond what has been handed down to me by Apostle Paul. Except someone prove to me that what Paul said in that scripture is physically inspired not spiritually inspired.

Dolphinheart In {Acts 2:24} Peter say's that God raised {Jesus} from the dead" {See also Roman 8:11, 2 Corinthians 4:14, Romans 1:4} Say's that the Spirit raised Jesus from the dead?
{Romans 8:11} clearly says that God will resurrect believers "through His Spirit" And In {John 2:19} Jesus predicts He will raise Himself from the dead.
See also {John 10:18} So who exactly resurrected Jesus from the dead?

Was it the Father the Son or the Holy Spirit?
The basic answer Dolphinheart to that-God raised Him {Jesus to life} {Acts 2:32} The Father is God and the Father raised His Son to life on the third day after His crucifixion {Romans 6:4, 2 Corinthians 13:4} The Spirit is also God, and the Spirit also had part in raising Jesus up from the dead. The Son is also God, and the Son, too, was responsible for His own resurrection.

Dolphinheart how can a dead man resurrect Himself?
Answer Jesus was more then a man who died, He was the eternal Son of God, "INCARNATED" Wicked men could kill His body, but they could not change His eternal nature or diminish His divine power Read {John 10:17-18} Jesus say's something that no mortal could ever say, I lay down My life, only to take it up again. No-one takes it from Me, but I lay it down on My own accord. I have the Authority to lay it down and the Authority to take it up again. "No-one else in the history of the world has ever had the Authority both to lay down His life and raise it up again.

Dolphinheart furthermore, Jesus said I Am the resurrection and the life: {John 11:25} He did not say My Father is the resurrection. He claimed to be the resurrection Himself "LIFE RESIDES WITH JESUS" And He has absolute Authority over life and death. {Revelation 1:18}
Dolphinheart Jesus is God, He would say, He could raise up His body on the third day, because He is part of the one being of God.

Who resurrected Jesus from the dead? God did, by that we mean all 3 persons were involved, or three persons participated in creation
{1 Corinthians 8:6, Genesis 1:1-2} All three are involved in Salvation {John 3:6,16} And all three are responsible for the resurrection of Jesus Christ..

dolphinheart:
YOUR CROOKED WAYS WILL NOT LEAVE YOU.
It is evident that the one the psalms said was talking is JEHOVAH(Yahweh or yehovah, whichever one you like), but you do not want to identify that one as Jehovah as it will expose your false doctrines, you will go to any length to alter what the scriptures says so as to sustain this false teachings.
The LORD their is Jehovah, he was talking to jesus, his son(though you lie that he is not God's son).

The scriptures teaches us that Jehovah is the almighty God, he is the supreme one, he is the God of the isrealites, he is the most high.
Jehovah says jesus is his servant(if we look at the prophecy and it's fufillment), his son(he said so directly to everyone hearing)

Jehovah said to jesus, "sit at my right hand" , that is why the scriptures say, explained in visions, revealed, explained to us that jesus is at the right hand of God, the almighty, the most high.
[b]Ro 8:34Who will condemn them? Christ Jesus is the one who died, yes, more than that the one who was raised up, who is at the right hand of God and who also pleads for us.

Eph 1:20which he exercised toward Christ when he raised him up from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places,

Heb 8:1Now this is the main point of what we are saying: We have such a high priest as this, and he has sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens,

Heb 12:2as we look intently at the Chief Agent and Perfecter of our faith, Jesus. For the joy that was set before him he endured a torture stake, despising shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

YOU READ THOSE SCRIPTURES ABOVE , YET YOU REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT JESUS SITS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF JEHOVAH( WHO THE SCRIPTURES HAS DIRECTLY CALLED ALMIGHTY, MOST HIGH GOD).

It is your refusal to accept those verses that is compelling you to rejects what the psalmist said, that Jehovah was talking to jesus.
Ps 110:1Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”

So was the Lord talking to Jehovah or was it Jehovah talking to the Lord?

dolphinheart:
YOUR CROOKED WAYS WILL NOT LEAVE YOU.
It is evident that the one the psalms said was talking is JEHOVAH(Yahweh or yehovah, whichever one you like), but you do not want to identify that one as Jehovah as it will expose your false doctrines, you will go to any length to alter what the scriptures says so as to sustain this false teachings.
The LORD their is Jehovah, he was talking to jesus, his son(though you lie that he is not God's son).

The scriptures teaches us that Jehovah is the almighty God, he is the supreme one, he is the God of the isrealites, he is the most high.
Jehovah says jesus is his servant(if we look at the prophecy and it's fufillment), his son(he said so directly to everyone hearing)

Jehovah said to jesus, "sit at my right hand" , that is why the scriptures say, explained in visions, revealed, explained to us that jesus is at the right hand of God, the almighty, the most high.
[b]Ro 8:34Who will condemn them? Christ Jesus is the one who died, yes, more than that the one who was raised up, who is at the right hand of God and who also pleads for us.

Eph 1:20which he exercised toward Christ when he raised him up from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places,

Heb 8:1Now this is the main point of what we are saying: We have such a high priest as this, and he has sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens,

Heb 12:2as we look intently at the Chief Agent and Perfecter of our faith, Jesus. For the joy that was set before him he endured a torture stake, despising shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

YOU READ THOSE SCRIPTURES ABOVE , YET YOU REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT JESUS SITS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF JEHOVAH( WHO THE SCRIPTURES HAS DIRECTLY CALLED ALMIGHTY, MOST HIGH GOD).

It is your refusal to accept those verses that is compelling you to rejects what the psalmist said, that Jehovah was talking to jesus.
Ps 110:1Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”

The name Jehovah God was change by the JW's when the JW's were printing the King James out on there own pressers. Even after the New Word Translation was made.
The switch was made in those times. Not even the Jewish People used the Jehovah's name as their God..

johnw74:
duh, we know Jehovah is a name for God,
that in itself shows Jehovah means God.

The subject is the meaning of the name Jehovah,
but of course true to form you reject the truth that's been posted:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

If possible read again with eyes that see:

YEH RIGHT?

dolphinheart:
stop lying, I've used the scriptures to show you that Jehovah is the name of God, Jehovah himself said that is his name!



you read the scriptures with a premeditated understanding , the verse says :
Ac 4:12Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has BEEN GIVEN among men by which we must get saved.”

WHO GAVE THAT NAME, DEFINITELY THE ONE WHO APPOINTED A SAVIOR!

Mt 1:21She will give birth to a son, and you are to name him Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.”
Ac 10:43To him all the prophets bear witness, that everyone putting faith in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”

JEHOVAH SAID THIS CONCERNING JESUS
Isa 53:11Because of his anguish, he will see and be satisfied. By means of his knowledge the righteous one, my servant, Will bring a righteous standing to many people, And their errors he will bear.

THUS THE ONE WHO GAVE THE NAME IS THE ONE WHO APPOINTED AND SENT JESUS TO BE THE SAVIOR, TO SAVE THOSE WHO WORSHIP HIM.
King James Version
1Jo 4:14And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.


Good that you know the name of the one who God sent to makind, do you know that he is also his son, his only begotten son?
[b]1Jo 4:9, 10By this the love of God was revealed in our case, that God sent his only-begotten Son into the world so that we might gain life through him. 10The love is in this respect, not that we have loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as a propitiatory sacrifice for our sins.
JESUS IS SAVIOR BECAUSE GOD, THE ALMIGHTY, THE MOST HIGH, JEHOVAH SENT HIM.(Go and examine jehovahs prophecies about jesus)


the name of God that is translated to Jehovah in English occurs thousands of times in the scriptures!

Johnw74 had laid it out on the table pretty nicely-Dolphinheart is lying once again to the public, so you aren't settled with one God, you need another God, and You call Him God God..
Even though there are many names for God, there is but one name, that believers know about whereby they can be saved and it is mention in {Act 4:12} {Among with many other verses} And there is salvation in no one else, for their is no other name under heaven, given among men by which we must be saved..
Even though His name is pronounced Yah SHOE Ah, which is from the old testament Hebrew name Joshua, we know it as Jesus, and whoever believes in Jesus Christ will be saved {Romans 10:9-13} Jesus's name means like Joshua's "God Saves" or "God is Salvation" or simply "Salvation" which is essentially the same thing.
When Mary was told earlier that She was to give Birth to Jesus, an angel proclaimed to Joseph, "She will bear a Son and you shall Call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their Sins {Matthew 1:21}
The Jehovah witnesses, false believe that not using Jehovah as God's name at all times is liken to idolatry even though there is zero evidence that this name is in the original manuscripts..

dolphinheart:
Excuse after excuse, some facts where shown to you about the kjv, you still refuse to adress them. everytime it's one excuse after another!


you keep on saying this false doctrine, you said jesus is not the son of God, a very big lie!
jesus did not Jump, not because he is not the son of God, but he does not want to put his father, the almighty God, his God to the text . He does not want to text God to know if God will truly save him!
De 6:16“You must not put Jehovah your God to the test the way you put him to the test at Masʹsah.


De 6:13Jehovah your God you should fear, and him you should serve, and by his name you should swear.


liar, support your statement with facts.

it is you that refuses to accept what the scriptures teaches JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, JESUS IS GOD'S SON.
Joh 1:34And I have seen it, and I have given witness that this one IS the Son of God.”

so the scriptures does not sound right ? continue!
Jehovah does not mean God!


1. go and read about the Greek and Hebrew word translated to " I am " looknow at its meaning, it's different translations and the many many people who used it!
2. If the title shepherd means that that person is God, then moses is God too
King James Version
Isa 63:11Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?

These people where God too!
Jer 23:1“Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of my pasture!” declares Jehovah.

But that is not the case, the fact that you don't know that it is Jehovah who appoints those who will shepherd his flock does not mean anyone with the title of sheered is God or equal to God. Go and read what jesus said in John chapter 17, GO AND READ WHAT JESUS SAID ABOUT THE ONE WHO GAVE THE DISCIPLES(THE FLOCK HE SHEPHERDS) TO HIM!

3. Jesus was never called the almighty God, that title belongs to the father, Jehovah, his God and father!, the most high God!
4. Jesus is the only begotten son of God!


keep on spewing false things, no vowels in Hebrew language.

{Psalms 110:1-Matthew 22:44} David says the Lord {Father} Say's to my Lord the {Messiah} His Son.

dolphinheart:
BROCAB, QUIT THIS DUBIOUS BEHAVIOR, I ASKED YOU TO TELL ME WHO JEHOVAH WAS TALKING TO, YOU KEEP ON CHANGING THE QUESTION , REFUSING TO ANSWER IT!


ANSWER THE SIMPLE QUESTION, WHO WAS JEHOVAH TALKING TO, WHO WAS JEHOVAH TELLING TO SIT AT HIS RIGHT HAND!


WHO DID JESUS SERVE?


BROCAB, PLEASE TELL WHO JEHOVAH WAS TALKING TO NA!
what point was Jesus passing, you just keep beating about the bush ,refusing to answer the question!

Then it just proves it' your God isn't "My God...

achorladey:
@Brocab Please stop the abuse of numerous pages, chapters, verses of the Bible. Make proper use of those you've already cited. I am only raising questions on those cited so far. All you have to do is convince me enough in that same line of reasoning. Quoting the pierced one, Saviour e.t.c takes us nowhere. My own God is not as low to be pierced by human weapon.

So when the JW's call Him Jehovah in sentence-they are calling Him God God?

johnw74:
H3068
יְהֹוָה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.
Total KJV occurrences: 6521

If any other but Jehovah were self existant, then the words "self existant" would be just descriptive,
but as Jehovah is the only self existant, then Jehovah not only describes God, but means God.

Good video bro-the more the merrier, the world needs to see the JW's to be exposed in public..

johnw74:
Bro and Sol, did you see this posted by OLAADEGBU?
it's worth a look at this video.
https://www.nairaland.com/2655453/jehovahs-witnesses-cult-exposed/6#50687306

The Word Of God had replaced {John 8:58} with Jesus-both titles carry the same names, Shepherd, Almighty, I Am, Savour, Pierced, creator, both titles forgive Sins.

achorladey:
@BroCab John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, God( ). I have replaced your 'I am' with God. Please, can you see the reason why I said give me names? If 'I am' is indeed the name while all of a sudden that verse become clueless or has no meaning.



I will repeat this once again, in your quest to make Jesus, the Almighty God, I hope you won't eventually make him a liar. If he is a liar, his ransom sacrifice becomes useless. Salvation through him is useless.

And it's an honor to meet you too bro. Times are changing-the end times are now, the Lords teaching us all bro-from the four corners of the world.

solite3:
glad to meet you bro God bless you for the good job

Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your Kingdom come, your will be done, On Earth as it is in Heaven, Give us this day our daily bread, and fore give us our debts, as we forgive our debtors, And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from the Evil one, for your's is the Kingdom and the Power and the Glory forever and ever Amen..
And who has all the authority to forgive Sins-If you say it's God only? Then how come Jesus has all God's authority given Him that same power to forgive.
{Mark 2:10} But you may know that the Son of Man has the Power on Earth to forgive Sins...

achorladey:
@BroCab Before Jesus taught Is disciples to pray. Why did he give he instructions first concerning prayer? When the men of old prayed, who were they talking to? When the Temple in Jerusalem was dedicated by Solomon who was he talking to. When Jesus gave what we know as The Lords prayer,Who was he talking to. Matthew 6 :9,10. When Jesus said father forgive them while dying. Who was he speaking to. Matthew 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. Even Jesus did not lay claim that God was his father alone. He said our father. That papa wey dey heaven, no be Jesus alone get am ooooooo.

Your not making any sense-you need to verify your statement clearly..{Revelation 1:7-8} Say's it clear enough both God and Jesus hold this Same title..
{Isaiah 44:6} The said the Lord the king of Israel, and His redeemer the Lord of Host, I Am the first and I Am the Last, and besides Me there is no God..

achorladey:
@BroCab John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, God( ). I have replaced your 'I am' with God. Please, can you see the reason why I said give me names? If 'I am' is indeed the name while all of a sudden that verse become clueless or has no meaning.



I will repeat this once again, in your quest to make Jesus, the Almighty God, I hope you won't eventually make him a liar. If he is a liar, his ransom sacrifice becomes useless. Salvation through him is useless.

Let's you read this hole chapter again, and check it out about {Psalms 110:1}
Try and understand Dolphinheart I am not against you-I am trying to help you-It doesn't matter how many times I have explained the scriptures to you-you are still trying to turn the Word Of God against itself. You on bringing in other verses that doesn't line up with the same topic we are talking about. Your not an elder-you are just a servant of your organisation.
Jesus served, He was also "Called the Son of God" Truly your heart isn't with the Lord, your heart is with your organisation.
I ask for the Holy Spirit to guild me today to answer this verse correctly, and explain to Dolphinheart the meaning of {Psalms 110:1} verse equals verse. Praise the Lord...
{Psalms 110:1} The clause the LORD say's to my Lord contains two different Hebrew words "lord" in the original.
The first word is "Yahweh" the Hebrew covenant name for God, the second is "Adonal" meaning lord or master, so {Psalms 110:1} David writes this. "Yahweh" say's to my Adonal".
Back in those day's men were called lords and masters. Lords are still being used today, It's called the house of the lords in the Queens house in England. Look it up...
But I am not expecting you to accept the truth, only because you are armed up, with nothing-you don't even study enough to even try to find the Word Of God nor any truth that go's with it. "But listen to what Jesus had said, David spoke in the Spirit" this is something you can't do without having the Spirit Of God. But God did speak through a Donkey and the burning bush, and of course He spoke in the Spirit-because He is Spirit?
The common title of the Messiah in Jesus's day was "Son of David" Based on the fact that the messiah would be a descendant of David who would inherit the throne and fulfil the "Davidic Covenant" {2 Samuel 7} Jesus capitalises on the Jewish use of the title "Son of David" to drive home His point In {Matthew 22} While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, What do you think about the Messiah? Who's Son is He? The Son of David, they replied" He said to them, How is it, then that David speaking by the Spirit "Calls Him Lord"? For he say's. "The lord said to My Lord sit at My right hand until I make your enemies under your feet" "If David Calls Him Lord' How can it be His Son? {Matthew 22:41-45}
Instead of trying to turn the scriptures against each other, study them first and explain each of the verses before writing them down. Like the Holy Spirit had helped me do above and below.
No-one can speak the ins and outs about God without the Spirit? Listen to the Words "David spoke in the Spirit" {Psalms 110:1}
This is why you find it difficult to understand the Word Of God, we are reading the same bible the King James,-but the difference is, you are trying to Calculate it, work it out in your own mind, while I am listening to God in the Spirit. I see things God see's, that you can't see, it doesn't mean the Words isn't written, they are there-page upon page, verse upon verse, scripture upon scripture.
Different denominations have different teachings, and without the Spirit of God inside them-then these different denominations are dead Buildings.
God uses His Spirit to enlighten those who serve Him. David Prayed, teach me to do your will, for you are my God, Your Spirit is Good may it lead me into the land of righteousness {Psalms 143:10} When 70 capable men were appointed to help Moses. God said to him, "I shall have to take away some of the Spirit that is upon you and place it upon them {Numbers 11:17}
And your Church haven't accepted the Word Of God fully. Even back then Moses and David received the Holy Spirit asking God into their lives-The JW's organisation have stayed on the highways 'you haven't found that Narrow road Jesus talks about..
Jesus said you need to become Born again before you can enter into the Kingdom Of God.. That also means we are entering into the Spirit...
And please explain if a blind man can see the scriptures-then what is your problem, you have eye's and you can't see them?

dolphinheart:
You are a very dubious individual, did I ask you to explain psalms 110:1 , No!, I asked you to tell me who jehovah was talking to in psalms 110:1. can you identify the lord that jehovah was talking to?, I don't think so!

We can keep on going down hill with you Dolplinheart because none of the King James bible will make any sense to you-No bible does, not even the NWT bible.
You will never understand the word of God-you can't. That's the bottom line-your organisation won't allow you too..
{Matthew 4:6-10} The Devil said "If you are the Son of God" throw yourself down-did Jesus throw Himself down "NO" why because Jesus said-you shall not tempt the Lord your God.
It's quite strange why Jesus would say such a verse to Satan-when He is "Called to be the Son of God?
One would think-Jesus being the Son of God would have the same authority God has, but Jesus second remarks were Satan get behind Me, for it is written you shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve..
God did give Jesus all His authority didn't He-so why didn't Jesus rebuke the Devil in His own Name the Son of God..
Dolphinheart-the best part about the bible is-you can't see it, to understand it, Who Jesus is..
Don't you hate the word Of God, even when its written out from the King James bible...
This doesn't sound right? Dolphinheart writes-Later they heard the voice of Jehovah God-He was walking in the garden-Jehovah means God doesn't it? So they heard the voice of God God-He was walking in the Garden..
God said "I Am" to Moses-and Jesus said before Abraham was born "I Am" {John 8:58} Why would Jesus take on God's name "I Am, Shepherd, Savour, Almighty, if Jesus is just a Son..
The rest of the page-it shows you have lost your way... The Jewish people don't even know the Jehovah name-and if they did it should spell like Yehovah

dolphinheart:
YOU COULD NOT DEFEND YOUR STATEMENT , is jesus called the son of God, but he is not really Gods son?. your statement indictates that jesus is not really God's son but he is called God's son or uses the nickname " son of God" .
You said:

"The scripture directly tells us He was "Called" the Son of God, not that He is the Son of God"

"Jesus was Called to be the Son of God- the scriptures never said He is the Son of God.


Neither did I say so. pls direct me to the verse where Adam saw God.
This is what the scriptures say:
Ge 3:8 Later they heard the voice of Jehovah God as he was walking in the garden about the breezy part of the day, and the man and his wife hid from the face of Jehovah God among the trees of the garden.


1. I've shown you(or probably your brother) how scholars explained the words " I am " that God said to moses, you could not say anything against it, so you all ran away from that explanation.

2. Jesus was discussing with his accusers about his age, not that if he is God, so he was telling them he existed(the correct description) before Abraham, he lived before Abraham!

3. There are others who said " I am " in the scriptures, does it mean they are God too? no!
2Sa 20:17So he went near to her, and the woman said: “Are you Joʹab?” He replied: “I am.” At this she said to him: “Listen to the words of your servant.” He said: “I am listening.”

4. Go and look up up the Hebrew word translated to "i am " and see how it is translated when used in other verses , it will help you understand better!

GIVE AN EXAMPLE Of WHERE I DID SUCH!, Stop laying false accusations!


Wrong! The hebrew language has no vowels, though if they could pronounce it that way I do not
know.

By believing in such a God...The Holy Spirit teaches us all things. Just turn away from your organisation, and become a born again believer, and the Lord will show you the way. Before Abraham was Born "I Am"
Twisting the scriptures and turning the word of God against each other, won't answer your questionnaires. Not at all. {John 8:58}

achorladey:
Now if you are to explain to a JW the mystery of the TRIUNE GOD that is difficult to understand by you personally as mentioned earlier. How do you expect them to come and worship such a God? If the triune God is a mystery then the Holy Spirit which is part of the Godhead must be a liar for not revealing the the deep things of God that is still a mystery to you in accordance with 1 Corinthians 2:10....But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

When you pray? Who are you talking too?

achorladey:
@BroCab You must have heard this statement before 'like father like son' but it never means the father and son are same or equal, all the quoted scriptures, that is what they mean to me. The simple question was who is that God that Paul said Jesus is mediating on our behalf. Or is it a case of Almighty God mediating on behalf of humans for another Almighty God.

I can see everything I wrote just blew out the back door, You didn't even try to understand and how many times do I have to mention His name? Who is God "I Am-who is Jesus "I Am..
It shows you haven't the slightest idea who Jesus is, Quoting {Matthew 4:6-10} The devil said "IF YOU ARE THE SON OF GOD" Throw yourself down-Next question? 'Did Jesus throw Himself down "NO" For It is written.
And what Did He say" YOU SHALL NOT TEMPT THE LORD YOUR GOD. {Jesus didn't say you shall not tempt the Son Of God, Jesus told the Devil who He is 'at the beginning in the desert. "Watch and learn JW"} Again the Devil tried once more,, and Jesus said" away with you Satan, for it is written you shall worship the Lord your God and Him only you shall serve. Did the Devil flee from Jesus, all did he flee from the Words Jesus said"?
If Jesus were the Son Of God "would he have throwing Himself down?
Before we go any further we must know that the bible was written Spiritually and naturally. And you can only see it naturally. This is the main reason none of you JW's understand the word of God the same as a born again believer understands.
We see God as He is...

achorladey:
@Brocab From Matthew 4:6 please answer this question because I know you must be a very Good C. R. K student. Who is God? Who is the Son of God? Names only. Who was speaking in that verse of the scripture? Name only. Do you think the person speaking in that scriptures is lying? Yes/No Who is the 'He' in that scripture representing. Name only. Please I need straight answers.

This is the questions you should be answering yourself-since it is you who refuses to believe in the truth...
Everything God the Father is-Jesus is...
This must be hard for you JW's when reading through the scriptures in the flesh-how things must come to sound. Without having the Spirit Of God, I myself couldn't study any Bible. So good luck with this?
But I will try and answer your questions, the best way I can, that you may understand them to your own ability of knowledge if you aren't sure about the truth. "While reading" try listening to the Words.
{Genius 1:1} That God created the heavens and the Earth. {Colossians 1:16} gives us the added detail, that God created "all things" through Jesus Christ. The plain teaching of scripture, therefore, is that Jesus is the creator of the universe.
The mystery of the triune God is difficult to understand, yet it is one of the doctrines revealed in scripture.
In the bible, both God the Father and Jesus are called Shepherd, Judge and Savior. Both are called the pieced One-in the same verse {Zachariah 12:10}
Christ is the exact representation of God the Father, having the same nature {Hebrews 1:3}
There is some sense which in everything the Father does, the Son and Spirit also do, and vise versa.
They are always in prefect agreement at every moment, and all three equal only One God {Deuteronomy 6:4} gave us this commandment for us all to follow. Love the Lord our God, the Lord is One {Luke 10:27} Jesus added this same verse, and love your neighbour as yourself {Leviticus 19:17-18} Knowing that Christ is God and has all the attributes of God-aids our understanding of Jesus as our creator.
{John 1:1} In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
There are three important things in this message about Jesus and the Father.
{1} Jesus was "In the beginning" He was present at creation, Jesus had existed eternally with God.
{2} Jesus is distinct from the Father- He was "with" God.
{3} Jesus is the same as God in nature-He "was God".
{Hebrews 1:2} Say's "In these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He also made the universe.
"Christ is the agent of God's creation, the world was created "Through" Him. The Father and the Son has two distinct functions in creation and yet worked together to bring about the cosmos.
"John say's" all things were made through {Jesus} And without {Jesus} was not anything made that was made" {John 1:3}
The apostle Paul, reiterates: "There is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and through whom we live" {1 Corinthians 8:6}
The Holy Spirit, the third person of the trinity,was also an agent in creation {Genesis 1:2} Since the Hebrew word for "Spirit" is translated to "Wind" or "Breath.
"We can see the activity all three persons of the trinity in one verse: By the Word Of the Lord" the heaven were made, the starry host by the Breath of His mouth" {Psalms 33:6}
After a thorough study of scripture, we can concluded that God the Father is the Creator {Psalms 102:25} and He created it through Jesus {Hebrews 1:12}
So" I am only receiving this from bible knowledge, Jesus isn't the Archangel Michael as the JW's would like to call Him, But all creation was Made through Him-even the angels were made through Him.

achorladey:
@BroCab Through inspiration Paul wrote to Timothy that there is one mediator between God and Man. Yes/No? Who is that mediator, who is that God. In your quest to call Jesus the Almighty God, I hope you won't make Jesus a liar. If he is a liar then is ransom sacrifice is useless. Then no salvation. What do I mean? For Jesus (God Almighty), loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son( ) that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life. Please fill the name of the Son. Have this in mind as well Mathew 6:9,10

When you read through the scriptures we see Jesus and His Father both carry the same names-Almighty {Revelation 1:8} Both are called Shepherd, Savour, Judge, everything God is, Jesus is-they were never separable-I and the Father are One. God is Spirit and Jesus became Man. I hope this helps you understand-they are One Body One Spirit. No one has seen God at any time..
Working together as a team, Jesus couldn't do anything without the Father, nor the Father could do anything without Jesus, nor the Holy Spirit couldn't work separately without them both, try reading {Genius 1:1} This proves they are One Body and One Mind.
And if the JW's believe God is a person-then they must believe Jesus is the Fathers person, while God is His Spirit, working together as One.
Both God and Jesus called themselves I Am..

achorladey:
Matthew 4:6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. @BroCab Who is the He and Son of God. Please I need names. What is the difference or similarity between the 'He' and the 'Son of God'? Are they equal, different or same.

Can't you read? Before His Name was Called Jesus the Son of God, His name was Lord, both Lord and God said I Am, In the Old and New Testament.
Adam seen the Lord God walking in the Garden-He didn't say He seen the Son and His Father walking in the Garden.
Jesus said Before Abraham was Born I Am {John 8:58} God said He is I Am..
When will you ever complete any statement you have written-the only thing you write is one verse-and then switch to another verse that doesn't line up, with any of the scriptures I have written down before your eye's, it's like a guessing game when you reply back.
And plus not even the Jewish People know who Jehovah is, and if they ever did, they would spell it like this Yehovah..
Is this all you can come up with Doplhinheart-{They are same person?, wow! so when jehovah said "sit at my right hand" are you saying he was talking to himself?, what wunt your false doctrine bring up.
one what? The disciples of Jesus are also one, and also one with Jesus and his father, just like Jesus and the father are one}
Yes I suppose if we were to look at this, in the Natural, we would see He is talking to Himself, but because this is the only way you see things-Then when you pray, who are you talking too-a Jehovah God, you can't see or hear, one who isn't there, and yet you believe He is listening to you?
How many times do you read the scriptures correctly, we done this same Old page, many moons ago. Yes the disciples are One with Jesus and the Father.
{John 17:20-21 I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf on those who will believe in Me, through their message, that all of them maybe one-as you, Father, are in Me, and I am in you, May they also be in Us so the world may believe that you sent Me..So Yes the disciples are also one with Jesus and the Father}
Solite3 never said God was a person in the first place.
{John 20:17} Go and tell the brothers "I am" ascending to My Father.
Don't forget this time when reading {Psalms 110:1} Page 119-12-12 ) Oct 27" I hope you pay attention this time.

dolphinheart:
Big time liar, look at the bolded above and look at your statements below:
"The scripture directly tells us He was "Called" the Son of God, not that He is the Son of God"

Jesus was Called to be the Son of God- the scriptures never said He is the Son of God.


You could not even complete John'S statement. look at what John further said, he did not say he saw God,
Joh 1:29The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and he said: “See, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!

Joh 1:34And I have seen it, and I have given witness that this one is the Son of God.”


you yourself twist your own words.
Did Daniel see God literally? no. pls support your claim that Daniel saw Jesus sitting on God's throne!


They are same person?, wow! so when jehovah said "sit at my right hand" are you saying he was talking to himself?, what wunt your false doctrine bring up.
one what?
The disciples of Jesus are also one, and also one with Jesus and his father, just like Jesus and the father are one.




STOP LYING!
Even your brother solite3 agrees that Jesus and the father are not the same person!


You keep on confusing yourself , you yourself has just implied through your lie that God is a person.
You have read it, no one has seen God, yet you want me to describe who I have not seen, I tire for you O!
God's name is Jehovah, his sons name is jesus!


NON OF THE SCRIPTURES YOU MENTIONED EVER SAID GOD PLACED JESUS ON HIS THRONE!, RATHER MANY VERSES SAY JESUS IS SITTING OR STANDING BESIDE GOD'S THRONE!
Daniel told you his vision, are you saying Daniel lied about the vision he saw!, do you think Daniel really saw God sitting? cus I don't think Daniel saw God in real life sitting., NEITHER ARE THOSE BEAST REAL LIFE MOSTERS!


First you will have to show me where I said the bolded above, you have always been known to lay false accusations!


Joh 20:17Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”


Note: do you notice that once again you refuse to identify the Lord Jehovah was talking to in Psalms 110:1.
Do you notice that once again you refuse to adress the issues about the kjv I raised!