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Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab: 1:16pm On Sep 15, 2016
Hello Ubenedictus, to be honest I thought you had past on, but na, you haven't changed you are still the one sneaking and hiding around the traps.
Ubenedictus:
Take ur own advise, go and study so u can talk factually.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 2:01am On Sep 15, 2016
Which lies are you preferring too, is it the bible lies, or are they your lies.
albert19217:
jehovah' witnesses take pray very seriously (1thessalonians;17)
.but concerning the lies u people say d witnesses preach and teach,why not look on ur various bible to comfirm d teaching of jehovah's witnesses as did those in thes-sa-lo-ni'ca(Acts 17;11)
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:38pm On Sep 14, 2016
I am happy you had found No 5 2016 Bro as you can see, none, not one JW' not even dolphinheart is willing to reply on this subject.
It's like they had hidden themselves back in the closet, Come out come out where ever you are?
johnw74:
THE WATCHTOWER NO. 5 2016


You are right bro. False jw elders and witchpower magazine are teaching that it is just Father that is with and comforting Believers today, they are wrong yet again, typical!

quote watchtower:
"Today, the Son of God is not present on earth to comfort us personally. [size=14pt]But[/size] his Father, Jehovah, “the God of all comfort,” continues to help those in need"
end quote
meaning that Jesus doesn't continue to help those in need

false jw leave out Jesus all over the place, they deny so much about the Lord,
denying the son and so having not the Father also.
Mat_10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

witchpower quote 2Co 1:3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;
leaving out verse 5 that shows that Jesus is also our consolation, our comfort:
2Co 1:5 For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ.

Not only is Father with believers today, but Jesus as well:

Jesus said, "I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world"
Jesus said, "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you"
Jesus said, "we will come unto him, and make our abode with him"
Father and son make their home with Believers.


Mat_28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.



Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:29pm On Sep 14, 2016
Does this mean I have no JW to explain my asking about No 5 2016 , well it just shows doesn't it, how educated these JW's are?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab: 2:23pm On Sep 14, 2016
Well if are having trouble understanding the truth about the Catholic Church, then I advise you to study up a little at least you will understand what the hell I am talking about.
And it won't sound senseless or disjointed to your own approval.
9inches:
Your last post is disjointed and senseless. Guess you were half asleep while typing. You might want to edit.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab: 2:21am On Sep 13, 2016
Firstly Jesus didn't build a Church made of brick and mortar, this is where most Catholic's are wrong, Jesus didn't build His Church upon Peter nor Paul-He built His Church on the word of God, flesh and blood didn't give Peter the words to say truly you are the Son of the living God.. These words came directly from the Father Himself. Jesus then said Simon Peter and on this Rock I will build my Church.
Jesus also said when two or three are gathered He is in the mist of us. Meaning I don't even have to travel anywhere other then my home town to find fellowship with other believers.
Either I go over sea's there are always believers somewhere, either living in the streets or in their homes, or fellow-shipping in a Church building, Christ leads us where ever He directs us to go..
I do know the meaning of the Catholic's Universal, but your Church was the one that broke away from the rest of the world. We just need to study the history, about the crimes the Catholic Church had committed, and still they are committing today.
9inches:
When Jesus founded the Church, it wasn’t a bunch of separate churches with their own individual doctrines, but a body with different parts throughout the world. We can see this from how Sts. Peter and Paul jumped from church to church around the Mediterranean Sea, founding churches that supported each other and had the same doctrine and rules.

It only makes sense that if Jesus founded one Church, it would be for the whole world. The word “catholic” comes from the Greek word “katholicos” which means universal. With that in mind, the Catholic Church is the Universal Church for all of humanity founded by Jesus. Only a single Church founded on Christ can fulfill the Great Commission, baptizing and making disciples of all nations.

One of the most beautiful things about the Catholic Church is its universality. I can attend mass pretty much anywhere around the world, and though I might not know the language, it’ll be the same liturgy with the same Eucharistic Lord and the same beliefs.

The Church must be able to adapt to different cultures without changing the doctrine or liturgy, which has been shown by the Catholic Church time and time again, on all 6 continents.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:03pm On Sep 12, 2016
Well it just shows you are full of yourself, and you have no evidence what kind of person I am. No 5 2016 would be sent across the nations, no one is left behind with your false teachings, so why is it you refuse to answer the question, I am asking?
A you practising your true beliefs, it seems every question I have asked in the past-you never seem to have any of the answers?
And No 5 2016 Magazine shows you really haven't the slightest idea which Magazine I am talking about.
The subject was about God and your so called active force comforting us, but your bible reads it out differently then what the magazine had quoted.
The Magazine also quoted Jesus had already done His work by comforting us only in His healing ministry, etc, I am only asking why No 5 2016 had left out Verse 5 when Verse 5 said it clearly Jesus is still in action when comforting us still.
But hey if you aren't the man who could help me with the answers then at least give someone else a go, one who understands this question clearly and one who reads up on the Watchtower magazines, and of course keeps up with the times and knows about the comforters story In {2 Corinthian 1:3-4}
dolphinheart:
it is evidently clear the kind of person you are!
you claim to find something wrong with a paragraph in a magazine, yet you refuse to provide the paragraph for others to examine themselves, why? because you know they will see through your deception.
every time you are asked to provide evidence to support what you are saying, you are always found wanting!

you are now changing your false accusation from "leaving out jesus" to "omitting a verse" , you should have told them to quote the whole chapter na!

are the verses you saw in that paragraph false? no
can you explain the scriptures quoted their? no
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab:
The Catholic Church was not commissioned by Christ, your claims built your Church that came from Peter as you recall it, God gave Peter the words to say.
{Matthew 16:16} And Simon Peter answered, you are the Christ the Son of the living God, and Jesus didn't reject it, only because the words weren't spoken in the flesh but in the Spirit. Jesus replied and bless are you Simon son of Jonah for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in Heaven..
The Catholic Church believed Peter was the author of your Church, Jesus said He will build His Church on the words the Father gave to Peter. Which means Peter isn't the rock the Lord was referring too..
And if you Catholic's believe Peter was the one Jesus planted a Church upon, then you had built your Church on flesh and blood.
And don't forget it was the Church of Rome that divided all Churches, because of pagan religion, you still use today.{Idolising your idol's}
{Daniel 2:31-34} The image head was of fine Gold, it's chest and arms of silver, it's legs of iron, You watched while a stone was cut out without hands, which struck the image of it's feet of iron and clay, and broke them in pieces.
That answers it quite well about the Roman Catholic Church.
9inches:
Nothing more than to boost the chances of us obtaining favours. That's the lowest I can explain it for your grasp. Hope you get it now.

The Catholic Church was commissioned by Christ to teach all nations and to teach them infallibly-guided, as He promised, by the Holy Spirit until the end of the world (John 14:26, 16:13).
It's not beans talk, it's a valid bragging right.

The mere fact that the Church teaches that something is definitely true is a guarantee that it is true (Matt. 28:18-20, Luke 10:16, 1 Tim. 3:15).
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab:
If you are truly a JW you would know what magazine I am referring too. no 5 2016 You had left out {2 Corinthians 1:5} in stead you only mentioned [Corinthians 1:3-4} adding the active force working side by side with God. Your Magazines work against your NWT bible.
So this time Mr dolphinheart lets hear these answers from you, and why?.
dolphinheart:
simple request, post the full text of the paragraph, you keep on trying to give your explanation of a paragraph you refuse to disclose its full content! typical!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab: 6:04am On Sep 11, 2016
Then why pray to the saints if they are already in Heaven, why not just pray to God, as the bible tells as to do.
Seek and you will find, knock and it will be open.

Their are no dead people in Heaven, they are either alive in Heaven in the Spirit, or they are alive in the place the Catholic's call {Purgatory of a no return, other words-Hell in Spirit}
9inches:
"Death" should be put in a context. In the Catholic Church, we don't consider those in heaven as dead people. We call it 'Communion of Saints'.
Have you ever heard us say "May the souls of all the faithfuls departed, through the mercy of God rest in peace"? We say 'departed', not 'dead'.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholics And Protestants Cant Unite. by brocab: 11:49pm On Sep 10, 2016
10's of 1000's of likes.
solite3:
Catholism is of the devil!
Like leading millions to hell.
Mark 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
Mark 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Catholic church promotes tradition above God's word.

Look at what the bible says about God's word


Psalms 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.


Psalms 119:89 For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:47pm On Sep 10, 2016
I am not changing the subject, I am explaining the subject and how it began.
And of course you have the Magazine in front of you which shouldn't be a problem for you to explain why Jesus was pushed aside? And all you have done is mention the Jehovah God and His Active force, is left to finish what was started from the beginning, your magazine mention Jesus was only used to comfort people when He healed the sick, and raised the dead etc.. But after His death He is no longer needed, to comfort those who need Him now. only God and His active force is left to finish the race.
I was only explaining how I understood when reading your magazine, and I am only expecting one of you to explain, why you have pushed Jesus aside, You should be the ones to answer these questions for me, and explain this to me why you believe Jesus is no longer needed on this earth, to finish the end.
dolphinheart:
who is talking about if you read the magazine or not, for you to lack comprehension, you must have read it na, only that you don't understand it!


you are always quick to try and change the issue, you are talking about a magazine, trying to paint a false and wrong understanding of what is written their, simple request was made that you should post the full text of that paragraph , you quickly shifted it to a story that cannot be verified by anyone! typical. same way you have desperately acted for months, refusing to tell us where body, soul, spirit goes when a man dies!
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:06pm On Sep 09, 2016
I had read the hole story and still Jesus was push out of the picture, this is why I had written about it. I can not help if you choose not to understand your own Watchtower magazine. Opp's....
On the street the other day, I had seen at least 10 JW's hanging around near our Harley's at my old mates place. I had asked who they were and the elder walked over with his lamb, telling me his story how he loved Motor cycles, before he started to preach his gospel he spoke about His old BSA he once owned, that conformation was interesting.
But then he started preaching his gospel and our interest on motorcycles just flew out the back door, so I listened, but not for long only because his beliefs doesn't mention anything about the spiritual understanding about the spirit of God. {God's Spirit is an active force}
He and his lamb could only read the bible in black and white, not having the spirit of God, nothing he said made sense, he just didn't know which direction he wanted to go.
I had read No 5 2016 booklet he gave me, and surely enough your understanding about Christ is nil.
Our subject with these two JW's were, let the dead to bury the dead, the elder was confused what that actually meant, nor his lamb could understand, he is in training, he couldn't understand why Jesus had said such saying. And when I had explained what Jesus had meant by it, about this scripture, which I will explain it to you, The disciple ask Jesus let me first go and bury my dead, Jesus replied and said, let the dead bury their dead, and come follow Me.
Meaning those who believe in Jesus are alive in Spirit and in truth, but those who don't believe are those who are dead in spirit.
The JW's couldn't run away quick enough for me to finish my sentence. But the good thing about this story is they will black list my old mate's house, and leave Him alone.
dolphinheart:
you lack comprehension, your expectations before you read the magazine has clouded your ability to understand what it was telling you about the God of all comfort. because you are always searching for fault , you think the magazine has removed Jesus role in our comfort.
If you are sincere, pls post the complete words of that paragraph for all to read.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholics And Protestants Cant Unite. by brocab: 12:32pm On Sep 09, 2016
Catholic's and Protestants wont combined, reason the doctrines are totally different, the Catholic's worship Mary which is unbiblical, while the Born again Christians worship God, and study to true meaning of the truth of God.
I see Catholic's as the same as any other biblical religion like the JW's the Mormons that say they know god, but they never worship God.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholics And Protestants Cant Unite. by brocab: 8:24am On Sep 09, 2016
And lets not forget the Catholic Church has a lot of answers to answer about their Child porn, molesting young children, forbidding themselves from God's commandment that a man and a woman who burns with passion should marry. Homosexuality had spread across the nations amongst the many thousands of so called Priest men and women within the Vatican.
No wonder we Protestants refuse to follow the beast.
italo:
Protestants themselves are confused and can't unite. They teach millions of contradictory doctrines and they all claim that these contradictory doctrines are from the Holy Spirit...which is obviously false...the Holy Spirit doesn't contradict himself.

Some Protestants believe Mariology, infant baptism, veneration of saints, use of images etc while others reject them.

Some Protestants accept gay marriage and abortion, while others dont.

Some Protestants believe that Jesus is God, others say he was just a man.

The problem is not Catholics...our belief is unified and unchanging...

The problem is with those who decided to preach contradictory lies and untruths...and lie that it is from the Holy Spirit.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholics And Protestants Cant Unite. by brocab: 8:10am On Sep 09, 2016
Lets not forget they believe the Holy Father is the Pope.
Kalatium:
The Catholics and the Protestants have a lot of problems due to differences in theology some of them are:The Catholics believe in purgatory, transubstantiation, maryology,7 sacrament, worship of relics and images,infant baptism, baptism by sprinkling, bazar sales,veneration of saints,cross depiction,they have additional books after the sixty six books called deterocanonical or apocrypha etc. You can add them
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:24pm On Sep 08, 2016
I am Just reading the Watchtower mag, No 5 2016, it tells the story like this, Today the Son of God is not present on Earth to comfort us personally But His Father {Jehovah} "the God of all comfort," continues to help those in need {2 Corinthians 1:3} Shows the JW's had left out the best of this scripture right from under the listeners view point. The JW's have taken Christ out from the picture, that Christ is no-longer needed on Earth and their Jehovah God is our only comforter.
Without them finishing this verse their Claims are Jesus is no longer needed to finish His work.
{2 Corinthians 1:3-5] Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comfort us in all our troubles, so we can comfort those in any trouble, with the comfort we ourselves receive from God.
[V 5} is the one the JW's had chosen to leave out of this picture, For just as we share in the abundantly in the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort abounds through Christ. Meaning both the Father and Christ are working hand in hand with each ever since the beginning of time.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab:
I will let you on a little secret about the bible it is actually spiritual as well as the natural, and Jesus said let the dead bury their dead, he meant let the non spiritual person who had refused the Lord bury the non spiritual dead that just died. Jesus then said come follow Me, and become spiritual as He is Spiritual, don't forget Jesus couldn't do anything without His Father. God is Spirit.
Jesus said he who believes in Me is alive in Christ. Those who haven't received Christ are dead in the spirit.

Not all saints go to heaven, Jesus said many are called but few are chosen, He also talks about the Narrow road and the highways, which path we chose to walk on. And in the last days many will say Lord Lord have we not prophesied in your name cast out demons, and prayed in your name, and Jesus said get away from Me, I never knew you.
Mary is only approved in the Catholic Church as your mediator, other believers see's Jesus as their only mediator as the word of God tells us He is. The Catholic Church had disapproved the word of God..
Adam and Eve were made to multiply together, both were made from dust and both they will return to dust, and because of Adam and Eve's sin they were both cast out into the wildness from the garden of Eden, and had children of good and evil because of this sin. And you have compared Mary to be equal with Eve? Eve disobeyed God from picking the forbidden fruit. And lets read on, they both had children one of Good and the other evil Abel and Cain...
Mary was a at a very young age and a virgin who God found faithful to Him to have His Child, Mary wasn't Holy like the Lord, she had received the Holy Spirit. Through her faith the Spirit grew, and the Lord came, to save the world, to bring salvation for all His Children.
But you have given all what the Father had given to His Son "to His Mother Mary.

Is Jesus rejecting His Mothers plead when He said this-{Matthew 12:47-49} The disciples said to Jesus your Mother and your brothers are outside wanting to speak with you, Jesus said who are my Mother and brothers, pointing to His disciples He said here are My Mother and my brothers, so you see, Jesus said those who believe in Me and spread His Gospel are His Mother and brothers.
Is Jesus rejecting His Mothers plead when He said this-{Matthew 10:37} He that loves there Father and Mother more then Me is not worthy of Me.
9inches:
And you think that petson is? huh


You made that up, didn't you? cheesy


You can say that again. That's her status right there!


Right kiss The bible encouraged us to do so.


So why would you bury your dead (grand)parents? Aren'tyou supposed to be dead to do so? Receive sense in Jesus name.


Yes they all did or else they would not have made heaven


Same here bro. We offer the bolded directly to God. But when we need to make a plea for favours, we are at liberty to either go direct, through an approved intermediary or even use both. You can hardly reject your mother's plea, right?

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You just slayed yourself by the above statements.


Mary being the "New Eve" of Revelation 12, brings life and salvation to all of her children through her obedience. The same "serpent" who deceived the original woman of Genesis is revealed in Revelation 12 to fail in his attempt to overcome this new woman. The New Eve overcomes the serpent and as a result, "The serpent is angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God, and bear testimony to Jesus" (Revelation 12:17).

If Mary is the New Eve and New Testament fulfillments are always more glorious than their Old Testament antecedents, it would be unthinkable for Mary to be conceived in sin. If she were, she would be inferior to Eve who was created in a perfect state, free from all sin.


Mary assumed into heaven a virgin.


Your word against the Mother of God and Her Son. My hand no dey there.


The statement is even uncalled for, unless you have been worshipping Mary, which would be a wrong thing to do. I haven't seen that happen, have you?

I just had a good free time this morning, hence these replies. Now can we stop going off course and stick to our main discussion? Don't derail again.
Christianity EtcRe: Will World Be A Better Place Without Jehovah Witnesses by brocab: 10:20pm On Sep 06, 2016
The world wouldn't be a better place without the People, but for the JW's organisation, if they taught the truth about Christ, then of course they are more then welcome to follow suit with those who do preach the gospel about Christ.
But because their job is to confuse our nations, with their un-scriptural knowledge it just turns more of God's people away from the truth.
JW's are no less then any other religious groupies out there twisting the word of God.
This is why the Lord is using us, to stand up against the principalities and the powers of controlling demonic spirits that controls the minds of these people, who can stand against us, if we stay strong with the Lord.
Christianity EtcRe: Give Your 'Tithes' And Offerings To The Less Fortunate In Church by brocab: 12:19am On Sep 06, 2016
The bible says bring all your tithes into the store house, the bible didn't say bring all your tithes into the church.
Christianity EtcRe: He Was Denied A Job Because His Church Doesn't Pay Tithe by brocab: 11:31pm On Sep 05, 2016
The Job you applied for wasn't from God, You were dealing with Prosperity preachers, and of course having this job would mean you wouldn't receive all your wages owning to you each week. They would take 10% from every dolour you made.
While the rich becomes richer, you and your family wouldn't have the pleasures you all could enjoy after a long and hard weeks work..
kayce911:
I got an interview invitation last Friday with one newly established company around Airport road, Rukpoku, Port Harcourt(name withheld). I was over-qualified, and I answered their questions perfectly, but what shocked me was when the interviewer asked me what church i attended.

I proudly answered "Catholic". His facial expression changed and he said "whoever doesn't pay tithe can hinder the growth of a company."

He even tried backing his statement with biblical quotations.I was very shocked so I can't even remember all the crap he said.

I brought this here to tell Nairalanders what religion has turned our people into.
Christianity EtcRe: Tithe by brocab: 11:14pm On Sep 05, 2016
Well said, frubben you have put your point across strongly.
Pastors are business men, like Bill Gates, Warner Buffet etc.. All retrieve monies from the worldly system, some business men and women were born into riches, and others weren't.

Jesus said it is easier for a camel to go through an eye of a needle then for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
In the last days prosperity preachers will flock in like wolves in sheep clothing robbing and stealing who they may devour, twisting the word of God, so those whom are listening will be deceived by the beastly system.
frubben:
Mark Zukerberge does not pay tithe

Bill gate don't pay tithe

Warrer buffet don't pay tithe

Frubben don't pay tithe

Just to mention some few people that controls
the world. Hey has it not occur to you that your pastor has being enriching himself with such money and deceiving you. The bible says I allow the rain to fall on good and bad (even the bad don't pay tithe) but dey are enjoying this things not to talk of we children of God.
Those men I have mention above have given
almost all there wealth to CHARITY work to
make the world a better place. God will not spell doom on you if u channel your money to the right part not to one building that only help one person (pastor)..
Be wise

"Let your light so shine that when people see you they will praise God in heaven. God bless you
Christianity EtcRe: An Open Letter To The Church: How The Church Can Make The World A Better Place by brocab: 4:52am On Sep 05, 2016
Times have changed, when the churches would stand up against the corruption the world had changed across our nations, I remember the times, the church would stand fern with the word of God, movies the music and any sexual scenes, were brought before the Church..
The Church was against Homosexuality and marriages that didn't line up with the word of God. Our schools were taught the truth about Christ.
Saturday the Sabbath and Sunday the Catholic Church had changed was a day of worship, and a day to spend with our love ones.
These days have gone..
Christianity EtcRe: Homeless Man Inspired Me To Go To Church Today (Photo) by brocab:
In most cases not even Jesus can enter into some churches, like this poor man sitting out side praising God.
jaelz:
Morning everybody was lazing around today not wanting to go to church when God pushed me to take a stroll while strolling i came across this homeless man reading and worshipping God in his very poor and deplorable state as you cam see him diligently studying his bible and praising God. As you can see his belongings on top of the Air conditioner burglary proof. Woah this really motivated me and nahso run go bath come church.

This reminded me of two things:
1.) A pics i once saw of a cripple giving money to a beggar that made me realise that incapability only lies in the heart out of the little you have give and be appreciative.

2.) A bank manager in Lagos that dropped from that position to a gateman in the same branch and later died as a conductor in berger Lagos, This taught me to be right and mindful when your rich of what you do and how you act.

Things in learnt:
1.) Be always thankful to God
2.) Honour and worship God
3.) Always treat everybody right and be prayerful
4.) why is it that its only on Sunday that religious topics gets dedicated to make front page on Nairaland?
5.) Add yours




Please do share to get some1 inspired
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Force Your Children To Go To Church ? by brocab: 4:32am On Sep 05, 2016
When two or three are gathered in Jesus name, He is in the mist of us.
No where in the bible does it say a Church building, is the key to paradise. Even non believing Christians go to church..
woky:
Ar you trying to say that 'Church' is not necessary?? Pls ansa with YES or NO
Christianity EtcRe: Do Catholics Really Worship Mary? by brocab: 1:00am On Sep 05, 2016
Queen Isis was also called the queen of heaven Mother of God. And the Catholic's followed suit..
johnw74:
You like to call Mary after a false goddess
ok, continue
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab:
You say you don't put anything or anybody before God, for centuries now the world knows who the Catholic's bow down and prise too. Kissing the feet of a statue.
Don't forget you have placed Mary's name above all other names here on earth under the earth and above the earth. Queen of Heaven Mother of God.
Secondly you say you pray for each other, placing Mary as your number one mediator between man to God, you also pray to dead saints, asking them to watch over you, haven't you heard let the dead bury the dead.
And who made them saints, did these saints give themselves over to God and became born again Christians, as God commanded everyone to do, no-one can enter into the kingdom of God without becoming born again.

{John 3:3-7} Born again means, born from above, Nicodemus had a real need, He needed a change from his heart, a spiritual transformation. New birth being born again is an act of God where by eternal life is imparted to the person who believes {2 Corinthians 5:17, Titus 3:5, 1 peter 1:3, 1 John 2:29, 3:9, 4:7, 5:1-4, 18} {John 1:12-13} indicates that being "born again" also carries the idea of "becoming children of God" through trust in His name Jesus Christ..
{Luke 4:8} And Jesus answered and said unto him, get behind me Satan, for it is written you shall worship your God and in Him only you shall serve.
I bow only to the Lord, and in His name I worship, I don't go through His Mother Mary, nor go through any of the dead saints, the Vatican has laying around in glass coffins to glide me through life.
In Heaven the saints pray-but I refuse to pray to them, My prayers is always directly to the Lord, not the saints, I pray along with my brothers and sisters in the name of Jesus, everything we do, is in His name-theirs is no other name that's greater above the Earth, on the Earth, or under the Earth.
No-one not even Mary has that same authority God had given to Jesus, Mary doesn't sit on God right side in Heaven, Jesus is our mediator, "not Mary". Mary was made of flesh and blood a human being like us, Mary was born into sin, like we are. She received the Holy Spirit after she was found faithful to God to have His Child, God used Mary as the virgin to be the Mother of Jesus.
After the birth of Jesus she had more children with Joe.

Respecting ones Mother for having a child, is understanding, but to worship ones Mother kissing her feet, and praying to her, as you enter inside a church building totally shows the Catholic's had placed a sinner above God.
Every child that is born, is one of God's creations? And every child that's born into the world, is born a sinner because of the fall of Adam and Eve.. And Mary was also born a sinner.......
There's no place in the bible where it say's we are to worship Mary. Mary was not only Jesus Mother, she was one of Jesus disciples, men and women of God that spread the good news across the nations just like we do today..
9inches:
God is first and even the end of everything we do as Catholics. We are encouraged to pray for each other, so asking for prayers from anyone on earth or in heaven is permitted in the scripture.
We don't put anything or anybody before God; He is the head of the Church. He shares that position with no one.
Christianity EtcRe: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by brocab: 5:29am On Sep 04, 2016
The bible doesn't tell us how the apostle Peter died. The most commonly accepted Church tradition is that Peter was crucifix up side down in Rome. Tradition say's when Peter was put to death, he requested to be crucified, on a inverted cross. The reason for this request was that, because he had denied the Lord, he did not consider himself worthy to die as Jesus Had. {Matthew 26:33-35, 69-75} Again this is only a tradition, and the bible doesn't confirm or deny his story.
The bible describes Jesus was crucified on a a tree {Acts 5:30, 13:29-30, 1 Peter 2:24, Acts 10:39, Galatians 3:13} How ever some say it was a stake, but either way, His feet would have been nailed together, supporting His weight so the nails wouldn't have torn through His hands hanging.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 10:41pm On Sep 03, 2016
I just tell them I am a Christian, usually I give them a verse {Mark 9:38-39} Teacher we saw someone casting out demons in your Name, and he was not one of us, so I rebuked him.
{Verse 39} But Jesus said, do not stop him, for anyone who preforms miracles in My name is not against us.
Jesus said do not judge one another.
I ask the JW's to look up {Mark 9:38-39} and come back with an answer? Do they come back? No my Home is black listed.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab: 10:12pm On Sep 03, 2016
In the bible it tells us to put God first {Proverbs 3:6} In everything we do, put God first. A man is head of the woman and Christ is head of the Church.
{Matthew 6:33} But seek first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness.
{Matthew 6:24} No one can serve to masters, he will either hate the one, and love the other.
{Matthew 22:37} You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with or your soul and with all your mind,
So you see, the only passages we find about honouring our earthly Fathers and Mothers is in {Matthew 19:19, Ephesians 6:2, Exodus 20:12} And continual's with Loving your neighbour as yourselves.
And if Jesus used this prayer as a good example, it was a good one at that. And if were truly a man/woman in Christ, you wouldn't hesitate, this prayer the Lord had given us to pray. It says it all 'doesn't it...
9inches:
Just to clarify this to you, Jesus taught us how to pray, the 'Our Father' prayer is more like a sample He gave. Throughout His lifetime on earth, I doubt He ever said that exact prayer.
Mary's intervention at Cana in Galilee is one of the reasons we seek her help. Catholics know you can't love, respect and honour your mother more than Jesus would.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab: 4:39am On Sep 02, 2016
The world is someday coming to an end, and the day's are coming quickly, at the blink of an eye, the Lord is coming. Time to seek, and the time to put away lying from our hearts, let each one speak truth to his neighbour, for we are members of one another, let no corrupt words come out of our mouths, nor give any place for the devil, and do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness wrath anger, clamour, and every foolish speaking be put away from you.
Seeking the word of God for the truth to be revealed.
Jesus Christ is the only name above all other names, the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords will be riding so every eye will see and every man woman and child will know, and every knee will bow that Jesus Christ is Lord. Amen...
Many have been called, but few of those have been chosen.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Catholics Pray Through Mary by brocab:
You are right about God having a Mother on earth and He became flesh and Blood, living amongst men.
But praying to Mary-isn't the same as praying to God directly, but using Mary as your mediator between you and God, again isn't praying directly to God.
Why do we need to seek His Mothers help, when we have Our Father in Heaven Hollowed be thru Name your Kingdom come, thru will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven, give us our daily bread, and forgive us our sins, as we forgive those who sin against us, and do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. Amen...
Is this a direct prayer God had asked us all to pray, all have you another. That's not scriptural?...
9inches:
I pray to God directly too. Often times I seek for His mother's help; that works for me as well. It is not a one-way street but it certainly ends at one place.

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