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Hello Ubenedictus, to be honest I thought you had past on, but na, you haven't changed you are still the one sneaking and hiding around the traps. Ubenedictus: |
Which lies are you preferring too, is it the bible lies, or are they your lies. albert19217: |
I am happy you had found No 5 2016 Bro as you can see, none, not one JW' not even dolphinheart is willing to reply on this subject. It's like they had hidden themselves back in the closet, Come out come out where ever you are? johnw74: |
Does this mean I have no JW to explain my asking about No 5 2016 , well it just shows doesn't it, how educated these JW's are? |
Well if are having trouble understanding the truth about the Catholic Church, then I advise you to study up a little at least you will understand what the hell I am talking about. And it won't sound senseless or disjointed to your own approval. 9inches: |
Firstly Jesus didn't build a Church made of brick and mortar, this is where most Catholic's are wrong, Jesus didn't build His Church upon Peter nor Paul-He built His Church on the word of God, flesh and blood didn't give Peter the words to say truly you are the Son of the living God.. These words came directly from the Father Himself. Jesus then said Simon Peter and on this Rock I will build my Church. Jesus also said when two or three are gathered He is in the mist of us. Meaning I don't even have to travel anywhere other then my home town to find fellowship with other believers. Either I go over sea's there are always believers somewhere, either living in the streets or in their homes, or fellow-shipping in a Church building, Christ leads us where ever He directs us to go.. I do know the meaning of the Catholic's Universal, but your Church was the one that broke away from the rest of the world. We just need to study the history, about the crimes the Catholic Church had committed, and still they are committing today. 9inches: |
Well it just shows you are full of yourself, and you have no evidence what kind of person I am. No 5 2016 would be sent across the nations, no one is left behind with your false teachings, so why is it you refuse to answer the question, I am asking? A you practising your true beliefs, it seems every question I have asked in the past-you never seem to have any of the answers? And No 5 2016 Magazine shows you really haven't the slightest idea which Magazine I am talking about. The subject was about God and your so called active force comforting us, but your bible reads it out differently then what the magazine had quoted. The Magazine also quoted Jesus had already done His work by comforting us only in His healing ministry, etc, I am only asking why No 5 2016 had left out Verse 5 when Verse 5 said it clearly Jesus is still in action when comforting us still. But hey if you aren't the man who could help me with the answers then at least give someone else a go, one who understands this question clearly and one who reads up on the Watchtower magazines, and of course keeps up with the times and knows about the comforters story In {2 Corinthian 1:3-4} dolphinheart: |
The Catholic Church was not commissioned by Christ, your claims built your Church that came from Peter as you recall it, God gave Peter the words to say. {Matthew 16:16} And Simon Peter answered, you are the Christ the Son of the living God, and Jesus didn't reject it, only because the words weren't spoken in the flesh but in the Spirit. Jesus replied and bless are you Simon son of Jonah for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in Heaven.. The Catholic Church believed Peter was the author of your Church, Jesus said He will build His Church on the words the Father gave to Peter. Which means Peter isn't the rock the Lord was referring too.. And if you Catholic's believe Peter was the one Jesus planted a Church upon, then you had built your Church on flesh and blood. And don't forget it was the Church of Rome that divided all Churches, because of pagan religion, you still use today.{Idolising your idol's} {Daniel 2:31-34} The image head was of fine Gold, it's chest and arms of silver, it's legs of iron, You watched while a stone was cut out without hands, which struck the image of it's feet of iron and clay, and broke them in pieces. That answers it quite well about the Roman Catholic Church. 9inches: |
If you are truly a JW you would know what magazine I am referring too. no 5 2016 You had left out {2 Corinthians 1:5} in stead you only mentioned [Corinthians 1:3-4} adding the active force working side by side with God. Your Magazines work against your NWT bible. So this time Mr dolphinheart lets hear these answers from you, and why?. dolphinheart: |
Then why pray to the saints if they are already in Heaven, why not just pray to God, as the bible tells as to do. Seek and you will find, knock and it will be open. Their are no dead people in Heaven, they are either alive in Heaven in the Spirit, or they are alive in the place the Catholic's call {Purgatory of a no return, other words-Hell in Spirit} 9inches: |
10's of 1000's of likes. solite3: |
I am not changing the subject, I am explaining the subject and how it began. And of course you have the Magazine in front of you which shouldn't be a problem for you to explain why Jesus was pushed aside? And all you have done is mention the Jehovah God and His Active force, is left to finish what was started from the beginning, your magazine mention Jesus was only used to comfort people when He healed the sick, and raised the dead etc.. But after His death He is no longer needed, to comfort those who need Him now. only God and His active force is left to finish the race. I was only explaining how I understood when reading your magazine, and I am only expecting one of you to explain, why you have pushed Jesus aside, You should be the ones to answer these questions for me, and explain this to me why you believe Jesus is no longer needed on this earth, to finish the end. dolphinheart: |
I had read the hole story and still Jesus was push out of the picture, this is why I had written about it. I can not help if you choose not to understand your own Watchtower magazine. Opp's.... On the street the other day, I had seen at least 10 JW's hanging around near our Harley's at my old mates place. I had asked who they were and the elder walked over with his lamb, telling me his story how he loved Motor cycles, before he started to preach his gospel he spoke about His old BSA he once owned, that conformation was interesting. But then he started preaching his gospel and our interest on motorcycles just flew out the back door, so I listened, but not for long only because his beliefs doesn't mention anything about the spiritual understanding about the spirit of God. {God's Spirit is an active force} He and his lamb could only read the bible in black and white, not having the spirit of God, nothing he said made sense, he just didn't know which direction he wanted to go. I had read No 5 2016 booklet he gave me, and surely enough your understanding about Christ is nil. Our subject with these two JW's were, let the dead to bury the dead, the elder was confused what that actually meant, nor his lamb could understand, he is in training, he couldn't understand why Jesus had said such saying. And when I had explained what Jesus had meant by it, about this scripture, which I will explain it to you, The disciple ask Jesus let me first go and bury my dead, Jesus replied and said, let the dead bury their dead, and come follow Me. Meaning those who believe in Jesus are alive in Spirit and in truth, but those who don't believe are those who are dead in spirit. The JW's couldn't run away quick enough for me to finish my sentence. But the good thing about this story is they will black list my old mate's house, and leave Him alone. dolphinheart: |
Catholic's and Protestants wont combined, reason the doctrines are totally different, the Catholic's worship Mary which is unbiblical, while the Born again Christians worship God, and study to true meaning of the truth of God. I see Catholic's as the same as any other biblical religion like the JW's the Mormons that say they know god, but they never worship God. |
And lets not forget the Catholic Church has a lot of answers to answer about their Child porn, molesting young children, forbidding themselves from God's commandment that a man and a woman who burns with passion should marry. Homosexuality had spread across the nations amongst the many thousands of so called Priest men and women within the Vatican. No wonder we Protestants refuse to follow the beast. italo: |
Lets not forget they believe the Holy Father is the Pope. Kalatium: |
I am Just reading the Watchtower mag, No 5 2016, it tells the story like this, Today the Son of God is not present on Earth to comfort us personally But His Father {Jehovah} "the God of all comfort," continues to help those in need {2 Corinthians 1:3} Shows the JW's had left out the best of this scripture right from under the listeners view point. The JW's have taken Christ out from the picture, that Christ is no-longer needed on Earth and their Jehovah God is our only comforter. Without them finishing this verse their Claims are Jesus is no longer needed to finish His work. {2 Corinthians 1:3-5] Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comfort us in all our troubles, so we can comfort those in any trouble, with the comfort we ourselves receive from God. [V 5} is the one the JW's had chosen to leave out of this picture, For just as we share in the abundantly in the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort abounds through Christ. Meaning both the Father and Christ are working hand in hand with each ever since the beginning of time. |
I will let you on a little secret about the bible it is actually spiritual as well as the natural, and Jesus said let the dead bury their dead, he meant let the non spiritual person who had refused the Lord bury the non spiritual dead that just died. Jesus then said come follow Me, and become spiritual as He is Spiritual, don't forget Jesus couldn't do anything without His Father. God is Spirit. Jesus said he who believes in Me is alive in Christ. Those who haven't received Christ are dead in the spirit. Not all saints go to heaven, Jesus said many are called but few are chosen, He also talks about the Narrow road and the highways, which path we chose to walk on. And in the last days many will say Lord Lord have we not prophesied in your name cast out demons, and prayed in your name, and Jesus said get away from Me, I never knew you. Mary is only approved in the Catholic Church as your mediator, other believers see's Jesus as their only mediator as the word of God tells us He is. The Catholic Church had disapproved the word of God.. Adam and Eve were made to multiply together, both were made from dust and both they will return to dust, and because of Adam and Eve's sin they were both cast out into the wildness from the garden of Eden, and had children of good and evil because of this sin. And you have compared Mary to be equal with Eve? Eve disobeyed God from picking the forbidden fruit. And lets read on, they both had children one of Good and the other evil Abel and Cain... Mary was a at a very young age and a virgin who God found faithful to Him to have His Child, Mary wasn't Holy like the Lord, she had received the Holy Spirit. Through her faith the Spirit grew, and the Lord came, to save the world, to bring salvation for all His Children. But you have given all what the Father had given to His Son "to His Mother Mary. Is Jesus rejecting His Mothers plead when He said this-{Matthew 12:47-49} The disciples said to Jesus your Mother and your brothers are outside wanting to speak with you, Jesus said who are my Mother and brothers, pointing to His disciples He said here are My Mother and my brothers, so you see, Jesus said those who believe in Me and spread His Gospel are His Mother and brothers. Is Jesus rejecting His Mothers plead when He said this-{Matthew 10:37} He that loves there Father and Mother more then Me is not worthy of Me. 9inches: |
The world wouldn't be a better place without the People, but for the JW's organisation, if they taught the truth about Christ, then of course they are more then welcome to follow suit with those who do preach the gospel about Christ. But because their job is to confuse our nations, with their un-scriptural knowledge it just turns more of God's people away from the truth. JW's are no less then any other religious groupies out there twisting the word of God. This is why the Lord is using us, to stand up against the principalities and the powers of controlling demonic spirits that controls the minds of these people, who can stand against us, if we stay strong with the Lord. |
The bible says bring all your tithes into the store house, the bible didn't say bring all your tithes into the church. |
The Job you applied for wasn't from God, You were dealing with Prosperity preachers, and of course having this job would mean you wouldn't receive all your wages owning to you each week. They would take 10% from every dolour you made. While the rich becomes richer, you and your family wouldn't have the pleasures you all could enjoy after a long and hard weeks work.. kayce911: |
Well said, frubben you have put your point across strongly. Pastors are business men, like Bill Gates, Warner Buffet etc.. All retrieve monies from the worldly system, some business men and women were born into riches, and others weren't. Jesus said it is easier for a camel to go through an eye of a needle then for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. In the last days prosperity preachers will flock in like wolves in sheep clothing robbing and stealing who they may devour, twisting the word of God, so those whom are listening will be deceived by the beastly system. frubben: |
Times have changed, when the churches would stand up against the corruption the world had changed across our nations, I remember the times, the church would stand fern with the word of God, movies the music and any sexual scenes, were brought before the Church.. The Church was against Homosexuality and marriages that didn't line up with the word of God. Our schools were taught the truth about Christ. Saturday the Sabbath and Sunday the Catholic Church had changed was a day of worship, and a day to spend with our love ones. These days have gone.. |
In most cases not even Jesus can enter into some churches, like this poor man sitting out side praising God. jaelz: |
When two or three are gathered in Jesus name, He is in the mist of us. No where in the bible does it say a Church building, is the key to paradise. Even non believing Christians go to church.. woky: |
Queen Isis was also called the queen of heaven Mother of God. And the Catholic's followed suit.. johnw74: |
You say you don't put anything or anybody before God, for centuries now the world knows who the Catholic's bow down and prise too. Kissing the feet of a statue. Don't forget you have placed Mary's name above all other names here on earth under the earth and above the earth. Queen of Heaven Mother of God. Secondly you say you pray for each other, placing Mary as your number one mediator between man to God, you also pray to dead saints, asking them to watch over you, haven't you heard let the dead bury the dead. And who made them saints, did these saints give themselves over to God and became born again Christians, as God commanded everyone to do, no-one can enter into the kingdom of God without becoming born again. {John 3:3-7} Born again means, born from above, Nicodemus had a real need, He needed a change from his heart, a spiritual transformation. New birth being born again is an act of God where by eternal life is imparted to the person who believes {2 Corinthians 5:17, Titus 3:5, 1 peter 1:3, 1 John 2:29, 3:9, 4:7, 5:1-4, 18} {John 1:12-13} indicates that being "born again" also carries the idea of "becoming children of God" through trust in His name Jesus Christ.. {Luke 4:8} And Jesus answered and said unto him, get behind me Satan, for it is written you shall worship your God and in Him only you shall serve. I bow only to the Lord, and in His name I worship, I don't go through His Mother Mary, nor go through any of the dead saints, the Vatican has laying around in glass coffins to glide me through life. In Heaven the saints pray-but I refuse to pray to them, My prayers is always directly to the Lord, not the saints, I pray along with my brothers and sisters in the name of Jesus, everything we do, is in His name-theirs is no other name that's greater above the Earth, on the Earth, or under the Earth. No-one not even Mary has that same authority God had given to Jesus, Mary doesn't sit on God right side in Heaven, Jesus is our mediator, "not Mary". Mary was made of flesh and blood a human being like us, Mary was born into sin, like we are. She received the Holy Spirit after she was found faithful to God to have His Child, God used Mary as the virgin to be the Mother of Jesus. After the birth of Jesus she had more children with Joe. Respecting ones Mother for having a child, is understanding, but to worship ones Mother kissing her feet, and praying to her, as you enter inside a church building totally shows the Catholic's had placed a sinner above God. Every child that is born, is one of God's creations? And every child that's born into the world, is born a sinner because of the fall of Adam and Eve.. And Mary was also born a sinner....... There's no place in the bible where it say's we are to worship Mary. Mary was not only Jesus Mother, she was one of Jesus disciples, men and women of God that spread the good news across the nations just like we do today.. 9inches: |
The bible doesn't tell us how the apostle Peter died. The most commonly accepted Church tradition is that Peter was crucifix up side down in Rome. Tradition say's when Peter was put to death, he requested to be crucified, on a inverted cross. The reason for this request was that, because he had denied the Lord, he did not consider himself worthy to die as Jesus Had. {Matthew 26:33-35, 69-75} Again this is only a tradition, and the bible doesn't confirm or deny his story. The bible describes Jesus was crucified on a a tree {Acts 5:30, 13:29-30, 1 Peter 2:24, Acts 10:39, Galatians 3:13} How ever some say it was a stake, but either way, His feet would have been nailed together, supporting His weight so the nails wouldn't have torn through His hands hanging. |
I just tell them I am a Christian, usually I give them a verse {Mark 9:38-39} Teacher we saw someone casting out demons in your Name, and he was not one of us, so I rebuked him. {Verse 39} But Jesus said, do not stop him, for anyone who preforms miracles in My name is not against us. Jesus said do not judge one another. I ask the JW's to look up {Mark 9:38-39} and come back with an answer? Do they come back? No my Home is black listed. |
In the bible it tells us to put God first {Proverbs 3:6} In everything we do, put God first. A man is head of the woman and Christ is head of the Church. {Matthew 6:33} But seek first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness. {Matthew 6:24} No one can serve to masters, he will either hate the one, and love the other. {Matthew 22:37} You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with or your soul and with all your mind, So you see, the only passages we find about honouring our earthly Fathers and Mothers is in {Matthew 19:19, Ephesians 6:2, Exodus 20:12} And continual's with Loving your neighbour as yourselves. And if Jesus used this prayer as a good example, it was a good one at that. And if were truly a man/woman in Christ, you wouldn't hesitate, this prayer the Lord had given us to pray. It says it all 'doesn't it... 9inches: |
The world is someday coming to an end, and the day's are coming quickly, at the blink of an eye, the Lord is coming. Time to seek, and the time to put away lying from our hearts, let each one speak truth to his neighbour, for we are members of one another, let no corrupt words come out of our mouths, nor give any place for the devil, and do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness wrath anger, clamour, and every foolish speaking be put away from you. Seeking the word of God for the truth to be revealed. Jesus Christ is the only name above all other names, the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords will be riding so every eye will see and every man woman and child will know, and every knee will bow that Jesus Christ is Lord. Amen... Many have been called, but few of those have been chosen. |
You are right about God having a Mother on earth and He became flesh and Blood, living amongst men. But praying to Mary-isn't the same as praying to God directly, but using Mary as your mediator between you and God, again isn't praying directly to God. Why do we need to seek His Mothers help, when we have Our Father in Heaven Hollowed be thru Name your Kingdom come, thru will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven, give us our daily bread, and forgive us our sins, as we forgive those who sin against us, and do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. Amen... Is this a direct prayer God had asked us all to pray, all have you another. That's not scriptural?... 9inches: |
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