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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 7:40am On Nov 24, 2017*

Call it what you like-It doesn't really matter to me, how you see yourself negative or scary, anybody that comes in his own name and claims to know Christ, and doesn't provide the evidence, is worth testing the Spirit, it works everytime.
Of course I didn't expect you would understand anything I had written, Jesus could never suit your standards anyway, Jesus is the forgotten God, and He could never match up to the Almighty Mighty God, now could He? And yet these both candidates Jesus and God carry the same authorised positions.
{Deuteronomy 4:35, 10:17} You yourselves have been shown these things so you will know that Jehovah is the true God, there is no other besides him. and again {Hosea 13:4} Besides God their is no savior.
And In {Job 36:5, Psalms 24:8 Isaiah 10:21, 43:10-11,} before me, no God was formed, and after me there has been none, and again, I-I am Jehovah," and besides me there is no Savior}
{John 12:44-50, Isaiah 45:23} A righteous God and savior, there is none besides Me. Jesus doesn't even come close to a mention, not in the NWT bible anyway? But Jesus is the savour of this world.
Again {Isaiah 44:8} Jehovah is called the Rock. {1 Corinthians 10:4} and that Rock meant the Christ.
If Jesus isn't God, then what does this say, {John 17:1} FATHER THE HOUR HAS COME. GLORIFY YOUR SON SO THAT YOUR SON MAY GLORIFY YOU.
{Isaiah 42:8} I am the Lord, that is My name, My Glory I give to no other.. If Jesus isn't God Who can glorify themselves?
We all know the JW's don't believe in the trinity, but yet the NWT have other idea's about the trinity?
{2 Corinthians 13:14} "The undeserved kindness of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God and the sharing in the Holy Spirit be with all of you.
And I will like to add, {John 1:1} never received a mentioned, and if you knew your bible, as well as you think you do, the KJV for instants, you would know everything about Jesus, is God that became flesh and lived among the people.
{Matthew 1:23} Immanuel means God with us..

lovingJehovah:
Do you get scared by the name? Jehovah's name must be made known all over the earth.
1 John 4:1 and when you tested my spirit does it read negative or positive?
I do not agree that Jesus is the almighty God and Jesus himself did not agree to that. He is referred to as the son of God not God almighty.
{1 John 5:20, Revelation 22:20, Matthew 1:23, and 1 Timothy 3:16} None of these verses prove Jesus to be the almighty God. You may be using a spurious Bible translation or maybe you require some assistance in parsing the sentences used in those verses for e.g if you had read the book of Revelation properly you could have noticed verse 16 of that chapter before going to Revelation 22:20. Verse 16 could have guided you to the right sense regarding the point you think that you have.
1 John 5:20 But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us insight so that we may gain the knowledge of the one who is true. And we are in union with the one who is true, by means of his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting.
You may well understand the emboldened above. If you have any doubt, get the Greek translation.
1 Timothy 3:16 Indeed, the sacred secret of this godly devotion is admittedly great: ‘He was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among nations, was believed upon in the world, was received up in glory.’
How does the above relate to proving your doctrine of Jesus being the almighty? It doesn't! You keep seeing a passive voice in the verse. He was made, he was declared, was preached about, was made manifest, was received etc. The question is, BY WHO? The almighty is not referred to in such terms. His name is "he causes to become" and that is Jehovah.
I accept that verse of the Bible but then it no way endorses Jesus as the almighty.
I am waiting for you to come up with John 1:1 because that is another threshold for trinitarians

Christianity Etc › Re: Higher Everyday — Making Wrong Right by brocab: 4:13am On Nov 24, 2017

I already know we believe in two different covenants, and you could never finish the race in time, behind door number {1} "Sin" behind tithing is used as the transgression of law {1 John 3:4} any law! 'And in the Bible, the use of the word "Sin" has to do with violating any law of God that God has given for people to observe.
God has given certain positive laws to particular people to perform as well as certain negative laws telling people to refrain from practicing particular deeds.
When one breaks any of these laws that God has ordained for certain people to do {things to perform or not to perform} that person is reckoned to be "sinning."
With this being the definition of "sin," {There are multitudes of preachers, priests, evangelists who are "sinning" on a daily basis in regard to their use} (or better yet, their misuse or their abuse) of the biblical tithe.
There is nothing more clear in the Bible than the teaching of God about the ordained tithe.
The Bible shows who were to pay the tithe, who were to receive the tithe, the types of products that were to be tithed, who was not to tithe, how the tithe was to be used, along with regulations that gave limitations and restrictions on its use, yet these laws of God are being violated wholesale by preachers, priests, evangelists and theologians who want a ready money supply for their religious or church work, In doing so, they are deliberately committing outright "sin," and its people like you who are supporting such..
The truth is, these religious men and women are often quite aware of what the ordained tithe of the Bible was designed to accomplish and to whom the produce or monies were to be paid, but these modern religious authorities have, in many cases, abandoned all sense of God’s directions and laws regarding the biblical tithe and they have appropriated those funds to themselves and for their own use in ways that the Bible never sanctions.
Indeed, it is common in ministerial circles and among the church denominations for the religious authorities to demand the full biblical tithe from church members.
Some authorities even threaten the plagues of God on those of their congregation if they fail to pay the tithe either in part or in full, 'other ministers use the tactic of producing guilt in people’s minds through their sermons in order to extract the tithe from their congregations, It even has become a common notion among many Christian denominational teachings that the matter of exacting tithe from the people is a cardinal responsibility of the ministry in order to "Gain Money" to operate the Church and its activities.
But this is wrong, It is not biblical, And worse, it is "sinful."
Now don’t crucify me yet, but It is perfectly proper to have funds given to religious organizations {even generously if people so desire} in order for them to perform the works God has given them to do.
People who are members of a Church or a religious group that is doing a good work in teaching the Gospel, or is providing a worthwhile service to the community, then the Church should be supported by some of its members.
The Bible has a clear and easily understood manner in which the teaching of the Gospel ought to be supported {and funded adequately} and all people who subscribe to those teachings should have their part in financing it, but in no way should the ordained tithe of the Bible be used {in the slightest capacity} in providing that support.
That is what we are talking about. In simple terms, the biblical tithe should not be the means that Christian and/or Jewish religious organizations obtain their funds with which to function.
Indeed, if a church or a synagogue uses such tithe, everyone who is party to such a scheme is sinning in the eyes of God!
These are strong words {And they may be shocking to someone like you who haven't studied the Scripture on the matter of tithing}.

OLAADEGBU:
Wrong. That was a teaching to those who were already in the Kingdom of God. You need to get into the Kingdom first to know your rights before you begin to become contentious about money matters.

Christianity Etc › Re: Higher Everyday — Making Wrong Right by brocab: 1:41am On Nov 24, 2017

Now since you mentioned it, I found this copy, and really it doesn't matter where your pastor preaches tithes-he preaches it.
And you can keep your bad advise to yourself, and enjoy your blessings from it..
I only offered to pray for these preachers, obviously praying for them, offends you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPT4U_aMrgA

OLAADEGBU:
You will never find him requesting for tithes and offerings at crusades, adherents can testify to the fact that multitudes are rather accommodated and fed during their 3 days retreat. My advice to you is to keep your tithes what God needs is that you rather listen to the videoclip you posted and get delivered from the power of darkness and be transported into the Kingdom of God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Higher Everyday — Making Wrong Right by brocab: 9:13pm On Nov 23, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQF0QYKsrEU
I pray one day these preachers will return everything they have stolen from the poor, before their judgement day..

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 7:30pm On Nov 23, 2017*

Are you not a loveingJehovah, and is Jehovah the name used as a witness?
{1 John 4:1} Does not the Lord tell us to test every Spirit"
And the scriptures I had written to you, shouldn't offend you, at the least, it would have been quite simple to answer if you had agreed, instead you felt to return my question back to me, which of course you left me posted, without your answer.
Do I test the Spirit, do you agree with these verses, {1 John 5:20, Revelation 22:20, Matthew 1:23, and 1 Timothy 3:16}? Is Jesus the Almighty God?
I can write to you until the sun go's down, but with a name you prefer to use as your calling name, will surely raises a few issues.

lovingJehovah:
Did I bring another gospel to you other than what is found in the Bible? If you agree with your doctrine in your comment, then, why does it contrast with your earlier comment (doctrine)? I emboldened your recent comment and I will paste the earlier when you quoted Luke chapter 10 and the recent for your reference. Do not go from "house to house" + in every "home" this gospel should be preached throughout the world.
Let me ask you the same question that you need answer for, if you were on the same track as the apostles were, you wouldn't come to preach another doctrine, do you agree?

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 3:22am On Nov 23, 2017*

You can find as many ways as you choose to solve your argument, again not even in these verses from different bibles, have anything to do with taxes, tithes and offerings.
It's about images and description, Give the things back to Caesar and the things back to God. Things is a go between, and still you haven't got any evidence "Things" is the answer to the scripture.
It doesn't matter which way you look at it, If you are not willing to give your "things" over to God, learning and spending much of your time studying the Word of God, you aren't giving to God at all.
I suppose being part of an organisation that loved money from the beginning of time, then the things of money will fall under the purgatory tithes and offerings act.

petra1:
Did he say people ? He said “THINGS” that belong to God . Which are tithes and offerings .let me show it to you in other translation bro.

Matthew 22:21 (HCSB Free)
21 “Caesar’s,” they said to Him.
Then He said to them, “Therefore give back to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

Mark 12:17 (WNT)
17 "What is Caesar's," replied Jesus, "pay to Caesar--and what is God's, pay to God." And they wondered exceedingly at Him.

What do you pay to God ? Tithes

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 1:19am On Nov 23, 2017*

Firstly if you were on the same track as the apostles were, you wouldn't come to preach another doctrine, do you agree?
{1 John 5:20} And you believe the Son of God has come, and He has given us insight" so that we may gain the knowledge of the One who is true. And we are in Union with the One who is true, by means of His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and everlasting. "Do you agree?
{Revelation 22:20} And the One who bears witness of these things says, "Yes. I am coming quickly."' Amen! Come, Lord Jesus."
And you do believe {1 Timothy 3:16} God was manifested in the flesh..
{Matthew 1:23} And they will name Him Immanuel. Which means when translated "With us is God.
You do agree this is the true gospel, and in every home this gospel should be preached throughout the world.

lovingJehovah:
I am glad that you mentioned the instruction given to the 70 in Luke chapter 10. Jesus gave these 35 pairs instruction to kick off this preaching campaign in 32 CE. You will recall that the earlier instruction was to preach only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew 10:6) which you can agree that you and I are not a part of. Regardless, he kept expanding the campaign and the opportunity for others to hear the preaching about his kingdom. In Matthew 10:11-12 “Into whatever city or village you enter, search out who in it is deserving, and stay there until you leave. 12 When you enter the house, greet the household"
You can see that he gave a clear instruction to enter houses and meet with householders. Moreover, the opportunity was extended to people of the nations which opened the door for you and I, who are not part of the lost sheep of the physical Israel, to embrace the hope of everlasting life in the kingdom of God. Do you recall apostle Paul on his way to Damascus? Well, he was given a special assignment to people of the nation(you and me). Romans 11:13 Now I speak to you who are people of the nations. Seeing that I am an apostle to the nations, I glorify my ministry.
Now, how did Jesus inspire Paul to handle this assignment? He was a missionary to many congregations and he wrote some of the compelling books in the Bible under the inspiration of God, through Jesus Christ, our lord. We can see how he handled the preaching assignment in the book of Acts 5:42 "And every day in the temple and from house to house they(Paul and other Christians) continued without letup teaching and declaring the good news about the Christ, Jesus"
Acts 20:20 slaving for the Lord with all humility and with tears and trials that befell me by the plots of the Jews, 20 while I did not hold back from telling you any of the things that were profitable nor from teaching you publicly and from house to house"
The above scripture clearly shows us how the Christians in the first century handled the work of preaching the Good news about Christ and his father, Jehovah God.
So, are you going to tell me now that they were misguided or disobedient to Jesus' instruction?
Are you going to publicly oppose the Christians in the first century?
One thing you also have to understand is, some of the pillars of the church built on Jesus, the apostles who walked and lived with Jesus gave apostle Paul the right hand of fellowship and accepted him as a fellow apostle (Galatians 2:9).
Are you going to be the one who rejects his inspired method of preaching that Jesus appointed him for?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 12:43am On Nov 23, 2017

So you are allowing the bible speak for itself-and then you decide to add and remove the written Word of God, you claim in your bible it actually say's Caesar demands taxes, and Jesus demands tithes and offerings?
Typical, it's easy for you to add and remove words, when it isn't scriptural to do so, it's a common thing with Catholic's.
The bible is speaking to those who are hearing, and you aren't hearing..
{Matthew 22:17-22} Tell us therefore what do you think, is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?
And Jesus perceived there wickedness, and said: why do you test Me, you hypocrites?
Show Me the tax money."
So they brought to Him a denarius.
And He said to them, whose IMAGE and INSCRIPTION is this?
And they said to Him Caesar's.
And He said: to them render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's {The coin} and to God, the things that are God's {The people} When they heard this they walked away.
Like you said: let the bible speak for itself...

petra1:
Truth doesn’t need much explanation . Let the Bible speak for itself .

What does ceasar demand : Taxes
What does God demand :tithes and offering

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 12:06am On Nov 22, 2017

{Luke 10:25} And behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”
{26} He said to him, “What is written in the law? What is your reading of it?”
{27} So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’[h] and ‘your neighbor as yourself.’”[i]
{28} And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; do this and you will live.”

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 11:52pm On Nov 21, 2017

Luke 10 New King James Version (NKJV)
The Seventy Sent Out
{10} After these things the Lord appointed seventy others also,[a] and sent them two by two before His face into every city and place where He Himself was about to go.
{2} Then He said to them, “The harvest truly is great, but the laborers are few; therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest.
{3} Go your way; behold, I send you out as lambs among wolves.
{4} Carry neither money bag, knapsack, nor sandals; and greet no one along the road.
{5} But whatever house you enter, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’
{6} And if a son of peace is there, your peace will rest on it; if not, it will return to you.
{7} And remain in the same house, eating and drinking such things as they give, for the laborer is worthy of his wages.
Do not go from house to house.
{8} Whatever city you enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you.
{9} And heal the sick there, and say to them, ‘The kingdom of God has come near to you.’

lovingJehovah:
If they had said the same thing to your mum, what would have been your reaction? Jesus gave us an assignment to preach the Good news about his kingdom but you, the one sitting in your comfort get laughing at someone who probably left his business for the day to obey the command of Jesus. How did your laughter glorify God?
Another thing is that you heard a gossip from a friend without making an attempt to confirm from the Jehovah's witnesses themselves yet you publicly announced it on a public forum. What does that speak of you?

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 9:53pm On Nov 21, 2017*

LETS GO BEYOND AND STUDY WHAT SORT OF FAIRY-TAIL BELIEFS THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES BELIEVE?
Fr. William Saunders
Recently a couple of Jehovah's Witnesses came to my door. Could you please explain to me their background and what they believe?—A reader in Springfield
The Jehovah's Witnesses were founded by Charles Taze Russell, a former haberdasher from Philadelphia, in early 1872 in Alleghany, Pa. Russell was born on Feb. 16, 1852 in Pittsburgh, and died on Oct. 31, 1916. He was baptized a Congregationalist, and was raised in a strict Protestant family. His later study of the Bible led him to deny the existence of hell and the doctrine of the Trinity, and to express Arian views concerning the nature of Jesus Christ, denying His divinity.

In 1879, Russell founded the journal <The Watchtower> and in 1884 formed the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. He traveled on preaching missions throughout the United States and Europe, organizing his followers, who were called Russellites, Millennial Dawnists, International Bible Students and finally Jehovah's Witnesses. During his missionary work, he faced several scandals including separation from his wife after 18 years of marriage, and the accusation of fraud for selling "miracle wheat" for a very high price.

Upon Russell's death in 1916, Judge Joseph Franklin Rutherford, a Missouri lawyer who had defended Russell in several of his legal battles, succeeded him as president of the society. Rutherford officially incorporated the group in 1931 as the Jehovah's Witnesses with the legal title, "The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society." Rutherford developed Russell's ideas into a formal doctrinal system. He also transformed the congregational structure of the sect as it was under Russell into a rigid theocracy. Rutherford laid the foundation for the sect as we know it today.

According to the Jehovah's Witnesses, there is one God, and since 1931, they have insisted that He be called "Jehovah." This is a corruption in the pronunciation of the Hebrew <Yahweh>, which occurred about the third century B.C. and was carried into the King James Bible's translation of <Yahweh> in {Exodus 6:3} The Jehovah's Witnesses say that Jesus is God's Son, but is inferior to God. They condemn the Trinity as pagan idolatry and accordingly deny Christ's divinity. Russell even claimed that the Trinity was the idea of Satan. Ironically, however, when they baptize, they use the formula, "...In the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."

Nevertheless, the Jehovah's Witnesses consider Jesus as the greatest Witness of all, inferior to no one except Jehovah Himself. Before existing as a human being, Jesus was a spiritual creature called the Logos, or Word, or even Michael the Archangel. He died as a man and was raised as an immortal Spirit-Son.

They believe that the Bible is the only source of belief and rule of conduct. However, their Bible aids seem to have more strength. They are only allowed to use their own translation of the Bible and other official publications. Unfortunately, many purposeful mistranslations exist in their version to support their tenets. For example, in the New Testament, "Lord" is translated <Jehovah> except where it refers directly to Christ. In the Last Supper account, they translate, "Take, eat. This is My body." To "Take, eat. This means My body." To affirm that Jesus was created, they add the word other to {Colossians 1:16} "By means of Him, everything was created...,"; "By means of Him, all other things were created in the heaven and upon the earth... All other things have been created through him and for him. Also, He is before all other things and by means of Him all other things were made to exist."

The Jehovah's Witnesses also deny the immortality of the soul, the existence of hell, and the seven sacraments. (Although they have ritual of baptism, they regard it as merely the exterior symbol of their dedication to the service of Jehovah.) They observe no feast—including Christmas—except the Memorial of the Last Supper, which they hold once a year after sundown on the 14th day of Nisan (a former method of computing the date of Easter and Passover) and during which only those who consider themselves as being among the celestial 144,000 may partake of the "emblems"—the bread and wine. They refuse blood transfusions. They also refuse to salute the flag, seeing this as an act of idolatry.

The Jehovah's Witnesses are also preoccupied with Armageddon—the final clash between the forces of good and evil. Here God will destroy the old system of creation and establish Jehovah's Kingdom. A group of 144,000 spiritual sons of God will rise to heaven, rule with Christ, and share their happiness with the others. However, the wicked will undergo complete destruction. Russell said that this Armageddon could not happen later than 1914. (He had given specific dates and times on three earlier occasions, but was wrong). From 1920, Rutherford proclaimed that "millions now living will never die"; he also expected the "princes of old"—Abraham, Isaac, and the others—to come back to life by 1925 as rulers over the New World.

After so many mistaken predictions, the Watch Tower Society of the mid-20th century no longer specified an exact date for all of this to happen; but it repeated that "this generation will by no means pass away until all things occur." More recently, Nathan Knorr, who succeeded Rutherford in 1942 as head, predicted that the world would end in 1974; the world itself did not end, but this world did for Knorr—he died in 1974. Nevertheless, Witnesses are deeply convinced that the end of the world will come within a very few years.

Each member is considered an ordained minister to give witness to Jehovah by announcing His approaching Kingdom. He may do this by door-to-door evangelization, by meeting with others for home Bible studies, or by standing at street corners to display Watch Tower literature. Preaching the good news is the only means of salvation. Ordinarily, the entry level Jehovah's Witness is called a "servant". A "publisher," attends five hourly meetings a week and is to devote 10 hours a month witnessing. A "pioneer" gives 100 hours a month to the society.

The main office is in Brooklyn, New York. The Jehovah's Witnesses are highly centralized. Branch offices in important countries supervise the work and channel the distribution of publications. District and circuit servants regularly visit local congregations to meet local servants, pioneers and publishers. Exact statistics are kept of all activities. As of 1994, about one million Witnesses belong to more than 22,000 congregations in some 80 countries.

Fr. Saunders is president of Notre Dame Institute and associate pastor of Queen of Apostles Parish, both in Alexandria.

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THIS IS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO STUDY UP ABOUT ANY CULTIST, THAT COME TO YOUR DOOR. YOUNG BELIEVERS CAN BE EASILY DECEIVED BY JW'S STANDING BEFORE THEM. THEY COME TO US IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING PREACHING TO US ANOTHER DOCTRINE, DON'T BE DECEIVED, JW'S CAN NOT SAVE YOU. {2 CORINTHIANS 11:4}

loving Jehovah:
If they had said the same thing to your mum, what would have been your reaction? Jesus gave us an assignment to preach the Good news about his kingdom but you, the one sitting in your comfort get laughing at someone who probably left his business for the day to obey the command of Jesus. How did your laughter glorify God?
Another thing is that you heard a gossip from a friend without making an attempt to confirm from the Jehovah's witnesses themselves yet you publicly announced it on a public forum. What does that speak of you?

Christianity Etc › Re: Higher Everyday — Making Wrong Right by brocab: 9:06pm On Nov 20, 2017

Did I bury them when they died? undecided

"No".

OLAADEGBU:
Did you bury them when they died?

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by brocab: 8:00am On Nov 20, 2017*

Anybody can read the bible, but without the spirit of the Lord the bible is just a book!
Catholicism claiming to have skills of excellence, impartial examination concerning the Bible, not having the Spirit, these are workers and braggers of righteousness like filthy rags before the Lord.

DoctorAlien:
Please click on the link below to see an excellent, impartial examination of the claims of the catholic church concerning the Bible.

www.bible.ca/cath-bible-attitude-towards.htm

Cc: Ubenedictus, easymancfc, analice107

Christianity Etc › Re: Higher Everyday — Making Wrong Right by brocab: 12:53am On Nov 20, 2017*

"Cremated" My parents had left me with memories, It makes no difference to those who are gone and buried without knowing the Lord, if you choose to respect the dead, what do you expect the dead to do for you?
I choose not to respect the Spirituality dead, I choose to respect the Spirituality living in Christ.
So what is my story telling you, Spirituality thinking let the dead, bury the dead.
{Revelation 14:13} And I heard a voice from heaven saying blessed are the dead, who die in the Lord from now on, Blessed indeed says the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours for their deeds followed them..{Revelation tells us blessed are the dead who are in Christ}
People come and go, now it's our turn to continual living, to the living we owe respect, but to the dead we owe only the truth.
{Philippians 1:3} I thank my God in all my remembrance of you.
{I am left with memories, that my parents had once lived.}

OLAADEGBU:
Did you bury them when they died?

Christianity Etc › Re: Higher Everyday — Making Wrong Right by brocab: 12:48am On Nov 20, 2017*

When my parents were alive I respected them, but now they had passed, leaving me with memories, they lived, and accomplish their purpose, and now it's my turn to live mine.

engineerboat:
you donts want to respect your parent.

if I may ask, did they offend you

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 12:40am On Nov 20, 2017

Call it as you like "insulting" The problem is "No one likes to hear the truth, and it's the Word of God, that brings the truth to them.
{Matthew 22:21} you are flying with the fairy's with this verse, you are way out of context.
This verse is about ownership and image-Caesar's image, and God's image, it has nothing to do with tithing or giving back money.
It's about ownership, and it go's like this, {Give back to Caesar, what belongs to Caesar and give to God what belongs to God}
This is not about money, this verse is about image and ownership, who's image is describe on the coin "Caesars" who owns the coin "Caesar" give it back to him, and who's the image of God, we are His image, God created us, He owns us-give ourselves back to God.
So petral you old religious comrade, when does Catholicism ever involved themselves with the truth anyway,?

petra1:
You don’t have to insult tithers and givers . Just because you don’t .

Matthew 22:21 (KJV Strong's)
Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Christianity Etc › Re: Higher Everyday — Making Wrong Right by brocab: 5:33am On Nov 19, 2017

No..I will not respect the dead.

OLAADEGBU:
Higher Everyday
SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 2017

RESPECT YOUR PARENTS
TEXT: EPHESIANS 6:2

"Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with a promise" (Ephesians 6:2).

He was so outwardly handsome that he was called, beautiful. He was a bold, talented, and celebrated prince. However, he had some terrible character flaws: he was malicious, crafty, had no regard for his father and harboured hatred for him for many years. He actually conspired with people and led a bloody rebellion against his father. His name was Absalom, King David's son. Yet, when he died violently in the battle, David wept like a baby saying, "O my son Absalom, my son, my son Absalom! Would God I had died for thee, O Absalom, my son, my son!" The depth of a parent's love is unfathomable.

According to Beecher, "There is no friendship, no love, like that of the parents for the child." God's command to children is to honour their parents, as seen in our text above. Considering the burden parents bear to nurture and nourish their children to maturity and the associated mental and physical pains they may suffer, children must honour them by obedience, diligence, and good behaviour. Children who are born again can respect their parents. Are you? .

• Challenge: "Please, respect your parents"

• Prayer: "Lord, forgive my sin of disobedience to my parents."

• Quote: "Children must honour them by obedience"

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Christianity Etc › Re: Higher Everyday — Making Wrong Right by brocab: 11:58pm On Nov 18, 2017*

{Psalm 118:26} Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.
Thanks to the organisation of QLAADEGBU-If I died with Christ, I shall live with Christ {2 Timothy 2:11}
Thank you for a well respected gratitude, my spirit was lifted with joy with words of encouragement below.
{Mark 16:15} Jesus said go out unto all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.
Nothing surprises me, people claiming they are Christians! "Damaging sites do cause our local communities problems, Facebook is known to do such, but not with you? Since you prefer to hang with sites such as these, than a little rumor here or there, wouldn't penetrate through your religious background, but you don't care, about that, even if it could do a lot of damage-especially around the youth.
So does this mean its a "No" you aren't going to share with me, what organisation QLAADEGBU actually stands for?
Does anyone in QLAADEGBU know the Word of God, because every page is copied, "one of your members still practices the watchtower, surprisingly that this organisation is focused on money in tithes and offerings, and plenty of it.
This will turn every bodies head around, this information is written out from the watchtower magazines?
Quote>It is good that we don't have to deceive ourselves. The fact that you said that you serve the lord (notice the lord with the lower case), that is definitely different from the Lord (with the upper case) that I serve. I again stress that you serve mammon who is your lord as you cannot serve the God (Lord) and mammon (lord).
This is watchtower information.
But I do like this one the most-Quote>Covetousness is the idol that prevents many religious people from serving the true God. Godliness with contentment is great gain. When God eventually conquers your heart let your wallet be conquered too, don't lose eternity because of it.
Tithers won't lose eternity because they tithe through the law, can the law save you certainly not. {Galatians 3:21}

OLAADEGBU:
My friend, find something better to do with your time. Why do you want to die before your time?

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 7:25pm On Nov 18, 2017

Do I have to repeat this, everyone knows through the Word, Jesus was under the law, but your understanding of {Matthew 23:23} as tithing Christians this scripture is used to lie against the truth. Plus {Mark 12:17} and this is another scripture being used out of place, just for the tithers greed.
If only you read the Word of God equally, instead relying on just one.
It makes life difficult for you, that you have many members on the same page, I understand why none of you learn anything-your job is simple, by the push of a button your page is solved.
I don't believe you are saved-one of your members is a JW.
{Galatians 2:21, 5:4} For righteousness comes through the law, Christ died in vain-You have become estrangled from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by the law, you have falling from grace.

Christianity Etc › Re: Higher Everyday — Making Wrong Right by brocab: 6:38pm On Nov 18, 2017

Of course I know you aren't informing me about this magazine, but to be honest If I couldn't get what I need out of the bible, then I wouldn't find it at all.
This may be out of your league, and obviously I am sure you know the ropes-but hopefully it may help you a little-everything that side tracks somebody away from the Lord, is idolatry.
"You mentioned Facebook do you realise this is as bad as M/B phones, even Television Can play the game, these are sure ways to draw believers further away from the Lord, the time these women spend on these suites, they haven't any time left in the day, to even think about the Lord, let alone read the Word of God.
They clean the house, they drop and pick up the Children from school, pick up the grocery's, and prepare meals from drawn to evening, and you are advertising the Mirror magazines, if the Word can't bring them closer to God, you have no chance, trying to arrange another way.
One may ask, do the Godly women live in Paper houses?
Is QLAABECBU a business organisation, so obviously its the Church. So if you don't mind sharing your name, what does it stand for?

OLAADEGBU:
To God be the Glory! We have the pleasure to present to you, the December 2017 Edition of the Christian Women Mirror magazine (IF YOU MISS IT...)! Make haste to get your copies! ...IT'S THE MAGAZINE THAT BUILDS GODLY WOMEN AND HOMES!

Source: https://www.facebook.com/Christian-Women-Mirror-Magazine-741596849232822/

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithing: Where Does The Money Go? by brocab: 4:54pm On Nov 18, 2017*

Well said.
It's so true, don't forget the handouts they get from Governments, and they receive a life time tax free membership, it all comes under the charity act.
Do I receive the Abrahamic blessings through law, or do I receive it through promise. {Galatians 3:29}

Bukolar1:
Honestly speaking, like some suggested tithes and offerings are just two of the numerous ways pastors get free money, when you attend a Church conference, convention or crusade , you are asked to SOWa particular amount of money to get either Abrahamic blessings or Isaac's blessings e.t.c. This doesn't stop there, if u re believing God for d fruit of the womb u pay a certain amount of money depending on the purse. Now apart from general SEED of millions etc. Have you not seen a church where all the salaries of the Church members for the the first month in the year belong to pastors(First fruits), apart from the hononaries from politicians and contributions from the business moguls in the society.
This is why so many people want to become a man of God
Now I can see why some pastors will go to any length including using local charms to draw plenty members to their churches. God is watching

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 1:32pm On Nov 18, 2017*

I have given you my answer to this same question before.
{Matthew 6:28} Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow {Seed} nor do they reap {The Harvest} nor gather {The Crops} into barns, and yet your heavenly Father keeps feeding them, Are you not worth, much more then they.
Do you ever read my answers, or is the Word of God a joke to you?
I have repeated this as well in the past, "In Israel the Jews don't pay tithes, and yet you pay tithes under law "Moses law?

OLAADEGBU:
The religious should first of all give their hearts to the Lord Jesus Christ and then pray whether they should start paying their tithes or not.

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 8:52am On Nov 18, 2017*

Well it seems you haven't moved towards the Word of God 'just a fiction, I have no-idea where you received your information, I have read the verses you have shared with me, but I have never managed to find how you understand them, and why people twist Malachi around to only suit an arguing need? I read my bible, and the Lord had already warned me about deceivers at work-I have answered you and shared with you the Word of God, but you haven't yet made any comments concerning His Word? Nor have you given anybody any evidence to prove how you understand your doctrine.
Jesus warned us of wolves coming in, as sheep, and false prophets have come and gone, they had deceived the world with signs and wonders, if possible even the elect, even through the gospel. {Matthew 24:23-25}
As I read the Word of God, I can see, how easy it is to be deceived, if Christians refuse to read their bibles, it is so easy for anybody to play the conman to deceive them.
If people were seeking after Christ, they would know how to recognise a discernment, especially around those prosperity preachers with corrupt minds, destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is their means to financial gain.
If people spent more time in the Word of God instead of doing their own agenda's in life, like idolizing their pastors or finding other agenda's other then God, they would understands the Word of God without being deceived in Church; they would listen to Jesus and withdraw themselves.
Does anybody realise Pastors are just men, they serve for a wage, they are neither the shepherd nor the owner of the sheep.
{John 10:11-14} Jesus said: I am the good shepherd, "The good shepherd lay's down His life for the sheep.
{But the hired man-who merely serves for wages, who is neither the shepherd nor the owner of the sheep, when he see's the wolf coming, deserts the flock and runs away, and the wolf snatches the sheep and scatters them}
This is a good description who the Pastors are in this day and age, just men serving for a wage, they are nothing like the apostles, the apostles served and preached the gospel freely. "It makes a difference to have a discernment, between the wolves and the sheep?

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithing: Where Does The Money Go? by brocab: 12:54am On Nov 17, 2017*

People always come up with the same old story, they make up heaps of excuses just to cover up their hidden agenda's in Church.
We have all been into a Church somewhere, and we know Churches have volunteers, and we know it's the very few that receives a wage, Churches are charitable organisations, no-longer is it used as the house of prayer-but a house of rich Pastors abusing the system demanding money in tithes and offerings.
Collecting donations, and expects handouts from Government organisations, "signing themselves over to a contract that allows them to claim a non paying tax free system that comes with a life time Government membership, which supports Schools, books and transport, and every other materials that's needed between the barriers.
Had anybody taken the time to understand what speciality the Church has in-stored for us today? Today's special we are in the end times, and with a little support from the Governments decision, is to rob the tax payers money to support these handouts and every other assignment the Government had in stored for each nation..
So we see, Pastors are living of the tax payers hard working wage, that supports their families, and the Pastors have no regrets, taken food from a child's mouth.
What happened to the Church where did it go wrong-Pastors waiting to be paid, while the apostles that walked with Christ preached the gospel freely and worked hard in tent making, and worked in fields to survive..
I remember the day's, when I myself attended Church, I would ask questions about tithes, and where do they place the money, just to be told it is none of my business, I would ask, does the Church supply the poor, I was told, no the Governments take care of them, I was told, tithes and offerings build Churches, I was told, tithes pay pastors, I was told, God allowed Pastors to collect tithes and do what ever they desire to spend it on, I was told lies, I now know through my experiences the Church robs God, and the people that's in them..
It takes time, before you may realised, the Church had chosen not obey the commandments of God, tithing is Mammon, it's not God's nor does it belong to the Church.
Read the scriptures, and ask the Lord to help you understand them about tithes-tithing was nothing like what the Pastors are preaching today, it's your choice, you choose, God sends the Church strong delusions, because the Church chooses to believe in the lie, rather than the truth.
{2 Thessalonians 2:11}
"We have heard that certain people went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, "You must be circumcised, AND KEEP THE LAW; to whom we gave NO SUCH COMMANDMENT..." {Acts 15:1 and Acts 15:24-29 in part}.
Circumcision came with the law. You tithe do you circumcise?
{Galatians 2:21, 5:4, 3:10}If righteous came through the law-then Christ died in vain? For whosoever of you are justified by the law, you have fallen from grace. For as many as are under the works of the law are under the curse.
Tithing was our tutor, and when Christ came, we are no-longer under that tutor..Tithing was under the law of Moses.

castroevans:
I'm sure u know there are workers in the church...
The Drummers, those who play the keyboard, piano, blow the trumpet, cleaners, and 90percent of them are paid. Where do u expect the money to come from, The Pastor's pocket?
I'm sure u know the church also needs maintenance, purchasing of diesel, repair of any faulty electrical appliances and u also don't expect that to come from the pastor's pocket alone.
Now, paying of rents, printing of bulletin etc all requires money, do u also expect that to come from ur pastor's pocket alone?
I used to live in such notion but i'm glad I don't think about it anymore.
Pray to blessed beyond ur expectation and such thoughts would be the last thing u would think of.

Christianity Etc › Re: Higher Everyday — Making Wrong Right by brocab: 2:14pm On Nov 16, 2017

Christianity Etc › Re: The Pentecostal Church Verses The Catholic Church. by brocab(op): 8:13am On Nov 16, 2017*

Did you write this all for me?
Are you mistaken, the bible was translated from the Latin language to every language across every nation. 1611 version..
You had named all these other bibles,to start some sort of an silly argument that you know yourself, they were written in other languages, that half the world couldn't understand, until the 1611 version was written in all languages.
This wouldn't have happened, if the Catholic Church wasn't secretive about their own agenda's.
Why is it Uben, you always seem to come at me, I am not here to argue with you, I am only here to tell the truth.
Anything about everything, that history had said about the past, is written everywhere, but still you are trying to prove me wrong about every thing.
The story about the Catholic Church, they weren't to interested in these other earlier bibles written back in time, the answer to this is easy, these old country manuscripts bibles were written in a different language, the Catholic Church didn't feel threaten by these bibles, only because they knew it took only the few to understand them in their own country, "Plus no-one in other countries could understand the different languages anyway, back then it was rare to see a child in school, let alone to learn bible literature , "unless the parents were rich, and a child could learn these different languages elsewhere.
To be honest try reading different languages back then is trying to understand the Latin language in Church now. Without the right teachings who can understand these many different languages from different countries.
The 1611 was written because they knew the Catholic Church disagreed with the Word of God, can't you see, the Church still refuses God's Word today, it was only the certain few that was taught who knew how to understand the scriptures, they themselves took their stand for Christ.
Can't you see, the manuscripts were written for all man kind, it wasn't their to be hidden away by Rome, these men risked their lives for you and I, so we could share in God's blessings, just as well as everybody else who chooses to believe in Christ.
Prayer opens doors, and God opened up a doorway so we can enjoy His Word and live the way He expected us to live.. Praise the Lord for evermore.
Think about it, would you do this to help save a nation in Christ, Uben?

Ubenedictus:
I remembered rebutting you about this before.

oh I am happy to show you lied, before the Protestant translation of Luther in the 16th century the Catholics had translated the Bible severally.

There are still approximately 1,000 manuscripts or
manuscript fragments of Medieval German Bible
translations extant.[1] The earliest known and partly
still available Germanic version of the Bible was the
fourth century Gothic translation of Wulfila (c. 311–80).
This version, translated primarily from the Greek,
established much of the Germanic Christian vocabulary
that is still in use today. Later Charlemagne promoted
Frankish biblical translations in the 9th century. There
were Bible translations present in manuscript form at a
considerable scale already in the thirteenth and the
fourteenth century (e.g. the New Testament in the
Augsburger Bible of 1350 and the Old Testament in the
Wenceslas Bible of 1389). There is ample evidence for
the general use of the entire vernacular German Bible
in the fifteenth century. [1] In 1466, before Martin
Luther was even born, Johannes Mentelin printed the
Mentel Bible, a High German vernacular Bible, at
Strasbourg . This edition was based on a no-longer-
existing fourteenth-century manuscript translation of
the Vulgate from the area of Nuremberg. Until 1518, it
was reprinted at least 13 times. In 1478–79, two Low
German Bible editions were published in Cologne , one
in the Low Rhenish dialect and another in the Low
Saxon dialect. In 1494, another Low German Bible was
published in the dialect of Lübeck , and in 1522, the
last pre-Lutheran Bible, the Low Saxon Halberstadt
Bible was published. In total, there were at least
eighteen complete German Bible editions, ninety
editions in the vernacular of the Gospels and the
readings of the Sundays and Holy Days, and some
fourteen German Psalters by the time Luther first
published his own New Testament translation.[1] An
Anabaptist translation by Ludwig Hetzer and Hans
Denck was published at Worms in 1529.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_translations_into_German

I remember you made such silly claims in another thread, I rebuted you and as usual you can't take corrections and you are back to making the same wrong argument again.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Pentecostal Church Verses The Catholic Church. by brocab(op): 6:56am On Nov 16, 2017

Then why don't you correct me, since you believe you have all the answers?
It really isn't me, you are angry about, its the Word of God that angers you, it fears you, and it should, haven't you sat down and thought things through to yourself, why is brocab still here, have you wondered why brocab constantly speaks on about the Word of God.
Have you wondered why you are having these compensations with other believers-people that love God outside your Church.
Had it ever, come to you in mind, why brocab uses the Word of God to fight all his battles, have you ever thought the bible must have some truth written in it.
Have you ever compared the Catholic bible to the KJV, have you wondered why different bibles written from different religions never seems to line up with the Word of God?
Maybe God's speaking to you through His Word, and maybe its time for you to open up your dusty old bible, and read the scriptures, have you ever wondered why you have kept your dusty old bible for so long, if truly, you don't believe it's the true Word of God?

Ubenedictus:
nah... what you've gat is your usual untruth and then pride which prevent you from correcting yourself.

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 4:58am On Nov 16, 2017*

So you are a JW now, they speak of the larger and lower L or l, is tithing mammon, I believe so, are you a tither, yes that is true too.
Do you preach tithing, yes you do, to you take tithing from the poor, yes you take that too..
You argue over tithes, you preach tithes, you collect tithes, your pockets are plenty, you lie against the Children of God, your riches are full.
I have shared the gospel, I have given the scriptures and still you haven't given any sign, the Word of God is the truth-you haven't tested the Spirit, What more can I say?
Maybe it will better for you, to go through my post, instead of looking at them as an attack against you, try reading the scriptures, ask the Spirit of the Lord to show you the meaning to each verse, maybe you should be asking yourself, have you wondered why brocab have spent so much time sharing these scriptures to you? Maybe it's time for you to test the Spirit, ask Him to give you the answers to every verse, brocab had shared with you..
Listen bro, I am here because I was sent here, to help you read and have some understanding about the Word of God, all I have been doing is sharing the Word to you, bro, sometime in our lives we were led down this very same old road, and it was a matter of time before we cried out to God, to show us in Word and in truth "is tithing today biblical. The answer I received is in my words, and I will share the gospel across every nation, until Jesus returns..
I could laugh at this below, because it is very hypocritical by you, you claim you don't worship money and then you write something like this. "But as I said: we once believed in the tithing gospel too, until the Lord had showed us in Word, we were set free, from the enslavement that you are trying so hard to lay the burdens of tithing upon our hearts.
Quote+first you say this-If you want to spend eternity with the Lord Jesus Christ you must first of all forget about giving your money. He needs you to first give Him a place in your heart. What is money if both the holder and the money is to perish in eternal fire?
{Isn't tithing given in money. and you say, don't give your money, and you say the people should tithe, you preach tithing, you preach money.}
And second you say this-Covetousness is the idol that prevents many religious people from serving the true God. Godliness with contentment is great gain. When God eventually conquers your heart let your wallet be conquered too, don't lose eternity because of it.

[/quote]So now you believe tithing money saves us-I will lose eternity with God if I don't give my wallet over to Him.
Do you actually believe, God will conquer our hearts over money, are you insane, do you actually believe God will punish us because we refuse to tithe, if you were to learn the scriptures clearly, you will see this doctrine does not belong to God, if prosperity preachers, acted upon the scriptures, no-one around the world will be hungry poor and destitute, but unfortunately they look after themselves.
Had it come to your mind, why your pastor lives in a mega home, drive fancy car's, wearing the best clothing, and living in the most expensive area, while you and your family, your Children are still living in the slums? When will it be your turn to receive 30, 60, 100 fold money back guarantee.
Allow me to pray--Lord you have sent me here to glide and support our lost brothers in Christ, I have tried Lord to reach out to these men and women, Lord forgive me, for I have not yet accomplish my tacks. I pray for QLAADEGBU Lord help this man see the light, open up his eye's and set Him free from these heavy burdens he had laid upon himself, caste these lies away from him he had chosen to believe. Amen..

OLAADEGBU:
It is good that we don't have to deceive ourselves. The fact that you said that you serve the lord (notice the lord with the lower case), that is definitely different from the Lord (with the upper case) that I serve. I again stress that you serve mammon who is your lord as you cannot serve the God (Lord) and mammon (lord).

Go through all your posts on it will be difficult to see you posting anything other than money matters and why Christians are not supposed to give to God. Your lord (mammon) has given you work to do and that is to discourage children of God from being obedient to the Word of God.

If you want to spend eternity with the Lord Jesus Christ you must first of all forget about giving your money. He needs you to first give Him a place in your heart. What is money if both the holder and the money is to perish in eternal fire?

Covetousness is the idol that prevents many religious people from serving the true God. Godliness with contentment is great gain. When God eventually conquers your heart let your wallet be conquered too, don't lose eternity because of it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholicism's SHOCKING Attitude Toward The Bible! by brocab: 4:03am On Nov 16, 2017*

Uben what is wrong with you, are you lying through your teeth once more, every time you are loosing an argument, to try and lay your guilt elsewhere, again it's me, fight your own battles.
I don't re-core I have ever spoken to you on this subject? As you claim to be a man of God, stand as one, don't keep on crawling back to no mans land, a true man of God would explain himself to God. Repent Uben..
Take note, this is one of my old sayings I had written back in time>Keep on lying-you will keep on dying..

Ubenedictus:
Jesus said his flesh is real not figurative food and we should eat it.

brocab say no don't eat it.{This must be a hobby of yours Uben, lying to gain respect from whom?}

weldone

Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings by brocab: 4:05pm On Nov 15, 2017

Thanks for being so honest, I was starting to panic, that had taken the weight of my shoulders, we aren't brothers..
God warns us-about the tithers that collect mammon of tithes and offerings, He warns us in Word, "Men of corrupt minds destitute of the truth who suppose that godliness is their means to financial gain. Did you know Jesus said: from such withdraw yourselves.
Are you listening to Him, or is tithing to much for you to bare that your only way in surviving is tithes, it gives the key to your success and security, without money you can't be blessed.
Well stranger I have news for you-lay down your life for Jesus, and He will set you free from tithes, taken those heavy burdens from you too.
Lets join together and come and spend eternity with the lord, stand with me, stranger that we may become brothers in the lord, and share the wonderful truths about the Word of God free of charge sharing the lord's blessings. 'Doesn't this sound great, we could rely on the lord to provide our needs as He promises.
All is this to much for you to bare?

OLAADEGBU:
We are definitely not brothers in Christ because you still have mammon as your god. All you seem to be preaching about is the love of money. The word mammon signifies "that which is to be trusted." You cannot trust God and money. It's either you trust God or you trust in money as your source of joy, great love, sense of security and the supplier of your needs. "Where your treasure is there will your heart be."

Christianity Etc › Re: Higher Everyday — Making Wrong Right by brocab: 3:38pm On Nov 15, 2017

Tithing is about money, that you yourself enjoy to preach out in the open. It seems you haven't been paying attention, why I am here, since it isn't written anywhere in bible literature, you seem to believe tithing is scriptural.
And we can't worship God and Mammon at the same time, but it doesn't stop you trying to put it out there, calling in the poor to tithe 10% every week from their last meal resort.
Do I have to explain it to you too-all my message are about Prosperity preachers, prosperity preachers preaching tithes across the pulpit, like you, and you call me out, claiming, I also worship after your mammon god in tithes and offerings..
Shame on you..

OLAADEGBU:
It is a pity that you can't see that you are the one that is fixated on money. All your message seems to focus on money. Jesus said we cannot serve God and mammon (Matthew 6:24), that is, we cannot trust God and money. Can't you see that your constant talk about money shows you how "covetousness makes a god of money"?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Pentecostal Church Verses The Catholic Church. by brocab(op): 3:05pm On Nov 15, 2017

I like this, You never be the one to tell any truth..
Quote" nope, there used to married bishops though, some centuries ago but the Church learnt from experience what the apostle Paul meant when he said a married man gets distracted by his family.
They get distracted alright, but not from their own families, nor their Church, but from other families priest molest their Children.
In all honesty the rest of your story doesn't line up, why the bishops priest don't get married..
God ordained marriages, Paul said: if we burn of passion it is best to marry, priest these days burn with passion for Children and gay men, it would be better for them to marry, so they don't deceive their wife's and Children etc..

Ubenedictus:
right now? nope, there used to married bishops though, some centuries ago but the Church learnt from experience what the apostle Paul meant when he said a married man gets distracted by his family.

you can't send a married man out as a missionary in dangerous places, you'll be uprooting his whole family and putting them in danger.... there is a long story there but the problem became worse since the married bishops tried to use Church funds to ensure their families were stable after their death, some gave church lands to their kids etc. as the years went by it became necessary to appoint Bishop from non married celibate men to avoid the wahala that came with married bishops.
so today you won't find a married bishop even though there are married priests. I think the last married pope was Pope st Felix III about 800AD some 1200yrs ago... married bishops may be more recent.

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