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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:12am On Aug 11, 2017

No one is lying about the Pope-if you weren't naive, maybe you would know how the world see's the facts, it's written across the four corners of this planet-word of mouth, the news, Radio's, newspapers, and the list keeps on going.
God see's everything-No-one can hide from sin, it always comes back to haunt us in the long run.
It's the same old story, when someone writes about the Pope, a priest, anybody in this matter, it spreads that fast-soon all the planet knows the sinners secrets.
Yes we all know-the secrets the Roman Catholic Church had involved themselves in-the world knows about the secret society act.
Thank you-for your honesty, 'you know I am right' your heart belongs to the Church-before it belongs the God.

blackbriar:
May be you are right about my heart.May be.
it does not still give you the right to lie about the pope, or does it?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 12:32am On Aug 10, 2017

I have repeatedly-wrote about Pope Francis-or over the net, the news is flying in all direction about this mask man hidden inside the Vatican.
The differences we are having between us-is your heart is constantly learning about religion-then you are learning about Christ.

blackbriar:
LOL........no comment

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 3:21pm On Aug 09, 2017

My version is on the net.

blackbriar:
I have heard so many versions.....i want your own version.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 3:08pm On Aug 09, 2017*

You call yourself a Christian, and you haven't the slightest idea-what this means?
I do believe the Catholic's believe: once you are baptised-you are instantly changed.
The New Testament describes Christians as growing in Holiness while also we are struggling with sin, once we had accepted Jesus-we aren't instantly changed-we struggle through life. This means we come against the principalities and the darkness of this world.
Yet our struggle with sin doesn't undermine our firm standing before God when we have trusted Christ for salvation {Romans 5:9-11} because of our new identity in Christ, we are called to be Holy, because God is Holy {1 Peter 1:16}
Becoming a Christian requires turning from sin to God {Repentance is the key word} But repentance is not a one time event.
It defines the lifestyle of the believer, God changes us radically at the moment of salvation by imparting new life to us, But this is followed by a life time of changing into the image of Jesus Christ {2 Corinthians 3:18}
A changed life stems from the transformation that God works in us through the gospel, as we put of the old life, are renewed in our minds and put on the new life in Christ.
But what is sad-you only believe in half truth of the bible-because the Catholic Church teaches you the other half. So how will God work through you, if you half believe.

blackbriar:
LOL first u say we are all sinners the nu say once u believe u are good to go. am confused.....help me here.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:31am On Aug 09, 2017

Look up on the net-its full of truths about Pope Francis.
Pope Francis believes the atheist will go into heaven, by their good works.
That sucks-and you had to turn your life over to the Church-before the Pope even recognises you..

blackbriar:
lets hear them.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:24am On Aug 09, 2017

Yes once you have become a born again believer you are good to go.
It's as easy as that.
But first you must believe.

blackbriar:
TO BE CLEAR YOU ARE SAYING ONCE I ACCEPT JESUS, I AM GOOD TO GO.
I AM BECOME A ROGUE POLITICIAN, A CHEATING HUSBAND, A WICKED BOSS ,A KIDNAPPERS?
COS ALL DIS CASES I MENTIONED WE SEE DAILY AND THEY ALL CLAIM TO BE XTIANS.
SO PLS COME OUT CLEAR...JUST BELIEVE IN JESUS AND FORGET GOOD WORKS?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:21am On Aug 09, 2017

We are all sinners-either we sin, or we don't sin-we are all sinners.

blackbriar:
IF YOU DON'T UPHOLD YOUR END OF THE BARGAIN,DUDE YOU ARE A SINNER.
WHICH IS WHY AT BAPTISM YOU ARE ASKED.......
Renunciation of Sin and Profession of Faith
Do you reject Satan?

Reply: [I do.]

And all his works?

Reply: [I do.]

And all his empty promises?

Reply: [I do.]

Do you believe in the God the Father, almighty, creator of heaven and earth?

Reply: [I do.]

Do you believe in Jesus Christ, his only son, our Lord, who was born of the Virgin Mary, was crucified, died, and was buried, rose from the dead and is now seated at the right hand of the Father?

Reply: [I do.]

Do you believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting?

Reply: [I do.]

Is it your will that [Name] be baptized in the faith of the Church, which we have all professed with you?

Reply: [I do.]
The celebrant and the congregation give their assent to this profession of faith:

Celebrant: This is our faith. This is the faith of the Church; we are proud to profess it, in Christ Jesus our Lord.

All: Amen.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:18am On Aug 09, 2017

Do you worship Allah?[quote author=blackbriar post=59294259][/quote]

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:15am On Aug 09, 2017

I said:anybody you accepts Jesus won't keep on sinning.
Nice one finely we found a Catholic who admitted after Jesus's death, Peter went back fishing-instead becoming the first Pope.
And besides what had this got to do with Peter going back fishing, did Peter sin while catching fish? Don't forget Peter did become a fisher of men.
Anyone who defrauds the public-isn't Christian, not only pastors-but priest.

blackbriar:
so the pastor that defrauds his members of 500 million naira?
wait hw about st.peter who went back to fishing after Jesus's death?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:06am On Aug 09, 2017*

Yes I do believe in the Holy Spirit.
No I don't believe in the holy Catholic Church.
Yes I do believe in Jesus Christ-and He sits on the right hand of God.
No I don't believe Mary's sits on His right side.

blackbriar:
IF YOU DON'T UPHOLD YOUR END OF THE BARGAIN,DUDE YOU ARE A SINNER.
WHICH IS WHY AT BAPTISM YOU ARE ASKED.......
Renunciation of Sin and Profession of Faith
Do you reject Satan?

Reply: [I do.]

And all his works?

Reply: [I do.]

And all his empty promises?

Reply: [I do.]

Do you believe in the God the Father, almighty, creator of heaven and earth?

Reply: [I do.]

Do you believe in Jesus Christ, his only son, our Lord, who was born of the Virgin Mary, was crucified, died, and was buried, rose from the dead and is now seated at the right hand of the Father?

Reply: [I do.]

Do you believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting?

Reply: [I do.]

Is it your will that [Name] be baptized in the faith of the Church, which we have all professed with you?

Reply: [I do.]
The celebrant and the congregation give their assent to this profession of faith:

Celebrant: This is our faith. This is the faith of the Church; we are proud to profess it, in Christ Jesus our Lord.

All: Amen.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:00am On Aug 09, 2017

Actually No, I have heard enough about Pope Francis.

blackbriar:
ABEG this issue is now very stale.
First it was pope john paul II as he was d pope during the y2k era, Karol wojtyla died in old age.
Then it was pope benedict xvi, because he was from a former Nazi country, the old ratzinger resigned.
we are still waiting for una excuse with pope francis...

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 8:54am On Aug 09, 2017

Even the Pope believes in God-believing he is God on Earth.
All religions aren't true-[Allah isn't the same God of the bible]
Pope Francis say's atheist can do good and go to heaven. And what good works can atheist do-without believing in God?

blackbriar:
All religions are true, they all believe in a supreme being,GOD ,who is the creator of the universe, the issue has always how to worship him. our fore-fathers believed in God, until the missionaries brought Jesus.The Jews believe in God. Moslems in God(ALLAH).
That isn't papal infallibility.the pope did not pronounce a dogma.
before even the pope pronounces a dogma,he calls a council,last one was vatican ii, where all the bishops of the catholic church worldwide and theologians debate over such a dogma and give their definitions based on bible teachings and sacred traditions. it is on that authority that the pope exercises the power of papal infallibility.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 8:45am On Aug 09, 2017

Anybody who accepts Jesus-won't keep on sinning. But rather obey His commands.
How about you?

blackbriar:
TO BE CLEAR YOU ARE SAYING ONCE I ACCEPT JESUS, I AM GOOD TO GO.
I AM BECOME A ROGUE POLITICIAN, A CHEATING HUSBAND, A WICKED BOSS ,A KIDNAPPERS?
COS ALL DIS CASES I MENTIONED WE SEE DAILY AND THEY ALL CLAIM TO BE XTIANS.
SO PLS COME OUT CLEAR...JUST BELIEVE IN JESUS AND FORGET GOOD WORKS?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 1:45am On Aug 09, 2017*

Between Catholic's, and the Evangelical's believe in some similarities, one of the most important disagreements is about how we can be accepted by God.
Evangelical's believe that if someone has faith in Jesus, if they trust Him with their lives and follow Him, than they are made totally acceptable to God. {Romans 3:23-26}
The bible say's that this happens apart from works" {Romans 4:6}
In other words, the Evangelical's believe, it doesn't depend how good of the life we live, but only on our trust in Jesus, if we follow Jesus, we are guaranteed a place in Heaven when we die {Luke 23:43}
Catholic's on the other hand, believe that our acceptance by God does depend partly on the life that they have lived, the Catholic's believe if they aren't good enough by works, they won't make it to heaven.
Another big difference is that the Evangelical's believe that in the bible God speaks through His Word.
The Catholic's believe God also speaks not only through the bible, but God speaks through the Catholic Church and the Pope.
But Jesus said: only the bible is the Word of God, not the additional teaching of religious leaders {Mark 7:1-13}
Having similarities-isn't good enough-we either believe in the truth-accepting Christ fully into our lives-either be Hot for God, or Cold for God, not knowing God at all.
Having similarities is Lukewarm, half believing in the bible, and half believing in a man made religion.
Catholic's believe the bible have errors, the Catholic's believe the Word of God, encompasses, not only the bible, but also the Apocrypha, the magisterism {The Churches authority interpret divine truth}The Pope's cathedra pronouncements, and an indefinite body of Church tradition, some formalized in canon law and some not committed in writing.
Where as Evangelical protestants believe the bible is the ultimate test of all truth. The Catholic's believe the Church determines what is true and what is not true, in effect, this makes the Church a higher authority than scripture.
This is the many reasons why Catholic's believe they are above all Churches.
Jesus said:{Revelation 3:1} So because you are Lukewarm neither Hot or Cold I will spit you out of my mouth.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 7:54am On Aug 08, 2017*

Rome as we know it to be, and the start of the Vatican-which happens to be right in the centre of it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4wv--q0AEY
And if this doesn't bite the dust-Constantine, and the start of the Church will.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: the only true religion? by brocab: 1:04am On Aug 08, 2017*

Is this what you believe-we are arguing the scriptures-it isn't the people we are against-its their belief, and organisation, this is our focus, to open up their eye's, and read the Word of God-watchtower imagines-doesn't have the answers, but the bible does.
Every time we mention the bible-to other religions organisations-there first reactions are, they go straight to the offence.
Every true believer knows, the bible holds all truth-and God speaks through it. Jesus said: I and the Father are One.
Jesus even prayed: {John 17:20-24} I am in you, and you are in Me, may they also be in Us.
Is this not to hard to understand-God's spirit is in all those who believe, "do you believe this is truth, do you believe Jesus is in the Father and the Father is in Jesus, and both the spirit are in those who believe.
How does anybody connect to the spirit of God-if they had falling away from the truth, in the beginning.

Acebrain28:
johnw74 you are very correct.. The true church is not physical or an organisation. It is born and composed of spirit and truth from God.

I studied and associated with Jehovah's witnesses for more than a year and made alot of friends. I was so devoted to the religion and exalted it above my career, interests and family. Then, Whenever i stumbled on posts/articules against Jw's, i tagged it satanic. Infact it made me more convinced i was in the right path. During this stern period my relationship with my family was so poor. Infact i wanted to leave my father's house because everyone opposed the faith. I also had this heavy burden in my heart always not to fall off jw standards. A pang of guilt feeling followed me all the time for very littly thing like buying a gift on my mum's birthday, admiring a non-jw lady. However as God did it i came to realise everything spoken against the Watchtower Society has truth in it but this didn't just happen all of sudden. It took prayer, time and effort on my own part fop things to get clearer for me. The scales plastered on my eyes by the watchtower society through their un-ending indoctrination had to fall off first and this happened when i saw the hyprocisy and conditional interest they portay to people. They are imperfect but better than anyone else. You see It's a really long story. However as i questioned the religion i became more inclined to make numerous researches over every single bit of information/doctrine/history about the religion. However this time i did it all with an open heart and humbled attitude. As i made more and more findings and truth about the whole Jw organization, i before offically awakened. I made a big mistake to openly declear my new convictions to the Jws i know and guess what? They all blocked me on social media! Nothing spreads faster than bad news among Jws. Till today of over 100 friends i made ranging frow elders to baptized publishered both far and near during my stay with them 0% communicate with me. Am not yet baptized but alreadly having my share of the shunning policy Jw practise. My point is it is a religious cult using the bible as a shield of defense against critism. Activist should focus more on helping Jw to first see some light on a subject matter and not outright arguing on doctrines with Jw's because you will harldly go anywhere with that approach. I recommend http://www.4jehovah.com to all Jw's reading this. Jehovah loves you but he won't come down from heaven to commend the Watchtower $ociety. He will only use men on earth just as he has always done in the bible. Stand neutral and Pay attention with an open heart!

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 12:15am On Aug 08, 2017*

If you had opened your eye's up in the first place-you would have seen the written Word of God, telling you to get out from amongst them.
{2 Corinthians 6:16-17} What agreement can exist between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God, As God had said: I will live with them, and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be My people.
Therefore come out from among them, and be separated, say's the Lord, touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you.
Is this not the description the Word of God-had described of Rome-1500 years the Catholic Church, had stood, and 1500 years and still it is full of dead mans bones, full of idols-of images of Mary and the saints.
Listen to God-He said: come out from amongst them, separate yourselves, and follow Him and He will set you free.

obiw24:
No be lie u talk o! Na me find trouble.

Imagine say I dey try reason with person wet think say e sabi me pass as I take sabi myself.
So tey e wan tell me wetin dey my mind.
I never see this kind thing before.
I'm done sha cos clearly some people just like to dey post epistle for NL
The Lord be with you Biko . I've had enough of this comedy show tonight.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 3:03pm On Aug 07, 2017

Did you know-my interpretation is not my own-but the Word of God is.
Do you realise every scripture we write comes directly from the bible.
Do you not understand the Word of God and not recognise the truth.
1500 years you say-means nothing-it just means a stone building called the Vatican-that stood in Rome before Christians came to pass.
Is this your Church, you believe that stands mighty above all Churches? Is this something to brag over-one stone was laid upon the other-and the corner stone was rejected by the Church builders.
{Isaiah 29:13} The Lord say's these people came near to Me with their mouth, and honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me, their worship is based on merely human rules, they have been taught.
Does this sound like the Catholic Church, they were taught by their rules-they honor Christ with their mouths, honor Him with their lips, but their hearts are far from Him, 'Whom do you seek-Mary and the saints, whom do you honor, Mary and the saints, whom do you pray, Mary and the saints.
Is this my interpretation-or is this somewhat the truth?

Patheos:
Where did Bible interpret no be your interpretation again

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 2:18pm On Aug 07, 2017

IS THIS WHAT YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THE BIBLES INTERPRETATION IS A LIE?

Patheos:
You mean your truth and interpretations mtcheeew

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 2:13pm On Aug 07, 2017

Don't you realise by reading the bible-the truth will set you free.
All are you prefering the bible to be a lie?

Patheos:
You mean your truth and interpretations mtcheeew

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 1:59pm On Aug 07, 2017*

Patheos:
obiw24 you are a learner oo why argue with people who have made up their mind that the Catholic Church who has been the only Christian Church on earth for 1500yrs before all these mushrooms churches is evil and they are the one that is right and are the true Christians making themselves infallible even tho they don't admit it .If they are not infallible why should i risk joining them when they might be wrong? Nah those who get una time sha......mtcheeeew

If they are not infallible why should i risk joining them when they might be wrong? Nah those who get una time sha......mtcheeeew undecided

Do you realised what you have written, and said: we might be wrong? Does this mean-you aren't sure?
Does this also mean-you are afraid of the truth-and the truth is not found in you, and the truth still maybe out there to be discovered.
Don't you realised-every Word we have preached is the bible written Word of God-is this what you are so afraid off-that-you may change your ways from religion, to God Himself.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:06am On Aug 07, 2017

Yes and we do have our personal relationship with God-serving and obeying our God' only to spread the Word of God across the nations as far as the Lord allows us to go.
The Lord see's our passion-He see's our love-He had given us His wisdom, His knowledge, and His support, His blessing's-His anointing-to preach His anointed Word to the Gentiles.
True Christians love the truth about God-Claiming to be a Christian' and not loving the Word of God is another matter-now look at you, "we always find it's the atheist that winches?

obiw24:
Everyone should learn how to focus on what's important...their personal relationship with God.

Stop trying to force your beliefs down anyone's throat. You don't see Catholics going trying to force you to worship as we do.
Ask yourself what the real source of your vex with the Catholic Church is...maybe even speak to God about it.

The God I serve is a God of love and peace not one of bitterness and name calling.

I wonder the God you serve...

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 8:34am On Aug 07, 2017

God knows where your heart is-we also know where your heart is-and we know it isn't where you think it is-fully with the Word of God-the Bible say's one must be a born again before he can enter into the kingdom of God.
Are you born again, are you saved, were you filled with the Holy spirit, is Christ living in you-is the spirit teaching you, Who is your mediator, whom do you seek.
Can Mary save you, can she pray for you, can the saints pray for you, who is your mediator, whom do you seek.

obiw24:
The image part has been dealt with previously. God knows exactly where my heart is when I pray so I don't need to defend it to humans who only see what's on the outside and draw the conclusions they desire.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 8:12am On Aug 07, 2017*

Isn't this true-the Catholic's feel we are pushing the Word of God down there throats. Praise God for that-at least someone is listening.
It took it's toll brother-but hey-the Word of God is alive and active, sharper then any two edged sword.{Hebrews 4:12}
These scriptures below are unrecognisable to the Catholic's, they wouldn't have a clue how the Word acts-it is quick and powerful, the Word penetrates as far as separation of soul and spirit, joints and marrow, it is a discerner of the thoughts and intends of the heart..
And you my friend-praise the Lord forevermore-you are a blessing-to us all.

johnw74:
Yes bro rc's hate God, and of course they don't believe God who said so:
(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Exo 20:5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 12:21am On Aug 07, 2017

And Jesus is our savior-He is also our mediator-which of course the Catholic's has many mediators.
There is no room for other doctrines, where the Catholic's seem to rely upon another-our job is to bring the truth to the people-Jesus said: one must be born again, before he can enter into the kingdom of God-Baptising them in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Next question-are you willing to know the bible-second question are you willing to be saved?
Pushing it down your throat as you call it-doesn't cover it, witnessing the truth does.
The truth is the Catholic's have there own doctrine, which of course it doesn't line up with the Word of God-we are here to show you-there is only One doctrine, the bible-and if it isn't written-it isn't the truth.
In love-we are challenging you, to become a lover of God-as we are.

obiw24:
I'm not entirely sure this Vatican extract proves your point because it clearly states that Jesus is the savior.
No Catholic has ever said that Mary was there in the beginning and she gave birth to God so I'm not sure the "God has a mom" arguement has a place here. Same as her being placed above all including Jesus.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 11:25pm On Aug 06, 2017*

Its always the case-you can only see us pushing the Word of God, the truth about our Father who art in Heaven-Hallowed be thy name-your kingdom Come your will be done on Earth that it is in Heaven, this is the written prayer, you Catholic's can't seem to come to terms with.
We are Christians witnessing His Word across the nations, and because of Him, we will push the truth across the four corners on the Earth, as far as God allows us to go-we will be there.
If this is the case you are feeling we are pushing the truth down your throats, praise the Lord-someone is listening.

obiw24:
Everyone should learn how to focus on what's important...their personal relationship with God.

Stop trying to force your beliefs down anyone's throat. You don't see Catholics going trying to force you to worship as we do.
Ask yourself what the real source of your vex with the Catholic Church is...maybe even speak to God about it.

The God I serve is a God of love and peace not one of bitterness and name calling.

I wonder the God you serve...

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Christianity Etc › Re: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by brocab: 1:59pm On Aug 06, 2017

Today I started to watch Jimmy Swaggate, I turned it off-as soon as he mentioned, Bring all your tithes to me.
More and more, everywhere we look-every TV channel we watch, it doesn't matter where we go-what Church we enter-pastor after Pastor preachers "Tithes.
Member after member-falling deeper and deeper-led by evil men and women, preaching there tithing lies, against God.
{Matthew 25:40} And the king will answer and say to them, "Assuredly I say to you, Inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren-you did it to Me.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by brocab: 1:34pm On Aug 06, 2017

My reaction would be if the a JW knocks on my door "is don't open it.
I would prefer to open my door to someone else, who knows the Word of God, at least I would know, where they stand..

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 2:12am On Aug 05, 2017*

"First" We read them all-but none of what you claim are facts-and you expect us to agree with you-Mary sits on Jesus right side-or she was found with no original sin.
We need the evidence from you-but you can't seem to produce it-because your evidence isn't written in the bible.
The Catholic Church teaches outside the written Word of God-"sample" The bible teaches Jesus sits on the throne of God-the Catholic's teach Mary's sits on her Son's right side of the throne. Even if Jesus is sitting on God's right side-this doesn't prefer to Mary sitting on Jesus right side.
{Revelation 3:21} To him who overcome will I grant to sit with Me on My Throne, even as I also overcame, and sit down with My Father on His throne.
So where did you say-Mary is sitting? It doesn't matter what the Catholic's believe-the fact is, the Word said: we all sit with Jesus on His throne, and His throne is His Fathers throne.
Mary either sits on His throne-or she doesn't sit on One at all.

Now lets start with Original sin. The bible states this.
{Romans 3:25} For all have sinned and all fall short of the glory of God.
Original sin is also known as ancestral sin, is the Christian doctrine of humanity's state of sin resulting from the fall of Man, stemming from Adam and Eve's rebellion in Eden, namely the sin of disobedience in consuming of the tree of knowledge of good and evil
Now the Catholic Church states this.
Adam and Eve transmitted to their descendants human nature wounded by their own first sin and hence deprived of original holiness and justice; this deprivation is called "original sin"..
The Catholic Church teaches that every human person born on this earth is made in the image of God..
The Catholic's also believe God's first covenant with humanity, through Adam, was broken through the original sin, God had created a covenant in Jesus Christ, the prefect sacrifice.
Jesus had given us away to enter into the new covenant. through Baptism. Baptism removes original sin. and any personal sin, and cleanses the soul making it new and fresh.
It makes one a new creature in Christ, God invites into His covenant with Him freely and it is up to us to choose to enter into it, and uphold our end of the bargain..

Now me-What if we don't hold up our end of the bargain, then what? A we still sinners.}

blackbriar:
all you wrote up there just confirmed that you did not read any of our post.you were all but just criticising all the way.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 1:04pm On Aug 04, 2017

We actually feel the same about you, you had refuse to give us the truth about anything you claim it's true.
Every verse you have produce, just doesn't line up with the Word of God, Jesus sits on His Fathers right side-but where is Mary?
Guessing isn't good enough-we need to evidence-But as usual when it is time to lay your evidence out on the table-everyone of you-hide behind each other, hoping the heats claim.
None of you have come up with scriptures that matches your theories! The bible isn't a guessing game-its full of facts-truth-that God's Spirit had inspired apostles to write a super natural-Spirit filled book called the bible.
You aren't any different to any other religion, the JW's do it, the Mormons do it, the Muslims do it, "all" claim to know Christ and yet, all of you-turn your backs against His Word, playing the guessing game-making up stories-that none of them line up with the Word of God.

blackbriar:
CHAI..........NA WA, I dont even know how to respond to you.
Isn't the most holy blessed trinity,GOD?
What is the "Pater Noster"?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 5:52am On Aug 04, 2017*

Yeh-I have seen this priest on the news, they have been wanting this man for long enough-finely the Vatican had turned him over to the law-to front these crimes he had committed against children, there a hundreds of priest involved in this sort of behaviour, so Cardinal Pell-isn't the first one who was caught, and spent his time close to the Pope.
It just shows the globe-Catholicism have their own laws-just to suit themselves.
Children all over the globe, are ever sexually assaulted, and as sad as it sounds-these so called men and women of God, claim they are Christian.
I have heard stories about the Nuns, they have had their fair share-in child molesting too, it is really an insult to God-these so called men and women of God-burning with passion, refusing to marry, just for the sake to destroy a child's life.
How does the Catholic Church-believe they are the guardians of the bible-when we know God is against such acts.
What are the 10 hail Mary's-anyway, this is how a rapist priest would pray?
One hail Mary thanks for the children.
2 hail Mary-thanks for their unclothed bodies.
3 hail Mary's thank you-allowing to explore them with passion.
4-5-6-7-8-9-10 hail Mary's, and "One" our Father, thank you I am finished.
This is, what the world see's?

johnw74:
another rc priest is to face the court over sexual assault of minors,
this time a cardinal, cardinal pell, personal adviser to the pope

with the rcc being rife with priests comitting sexual assault on children
it's clear that their god-their originator of church doctrine which goes against God's word, is satan.

satan loves to put God last, and he has rc's praying to mary more than to God
10 hail marys to 1 our Father

satan has rcc honouring mary a creation, more than God the creator etc. etc.

one only has to search online to learn all the evil of rcc,
clearly anyone who belongs to satans church, it is because he-she want's to

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 2:36pm On Aug 03, 2017

This doesn't answer Johnw74 question? There's nothing in this scripture that backs up your theories about Mary.
What is the problem? Why can't you Catholic's answer any bible knowledge we have asked?
This isn't the secret society-we all claim' to be believers, don't we.
The JW's, the Mormons have their own bible, the Muslims, the Catholic's have their own bible-all 4 religions claim to know Christ-and yet, none of you seem to believe how the bible is written.
It leaves a person wondering-don't you think?

Ubenedictus:
Jesus 3:12
If I have told you earthly things, and ye
believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you
of heavenly things?

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