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KingSango:
A Black Jesus sounds just as crazy as a Black Santa Claus. Black people think that a lie is okay if we paint it white, but Jesus is an lie, and painting him Black isn't going to change he never existed.

I see you are aware of the evils of the Catholic Church, then how come you're still Christian? Don't you know all Christian demoninations come from the Roman Catholic Church via way of history?

Everything the Whiteman tells is a lie. Until you understand that you won't ever win an argument with me. But only lose my interests. Love, Sango.

KingSango:
The Bible and Quran were written by the perverted Vactican. The creator is Ololodumare and his other manifestions od Olorun and Olofi. There is no Jesus Christ, no ball shaped Earth, no planets, and the Euroasian has never set foot on the moon. No Abraham and no Muhammad. Nearly all of what the Euroasian has imposed on us as education is an outright lie. Worshipping the Euroasian has brought us untold suffering. I live in America, besides the infrastructure, like 24/7 electricity, it is a nightmare for poor and powerless African Americans. gay Nigerians, ran out of Nigeria and other parts of Africa, they are here, and they side with the European. But all the gays who oppose African Liberation are coming from the Christian Church. These are demasculated males, sodomized and brutalized, they oppose the truth because it suits their perversion. If you are in league with them you are a traitor. Christianity, Islam and Judiasm shall die soon as Africa will be free before 2063. Ase.

KingSango:
The Bible and Quran were written by the perverted Vactican. The creator is Ololodumare and his other manifestions od Olorun and Olofi. There is no Jesus Christ, no ball shaped Earth, no planets, and the Euroasian has never set foot on the moon. No Abraham and no Muhammad. Nearly all of what the Euroasian has imposed on us as education is an outright lie. Worshipping the Euroasian has brought us untold suffering. I live in America, besides the infrastructure, like 24/7 electricity, it is a nightmare for poor and powerless African Americans. gay Nigerians, ran out of Nigeria and other parts of Africa, they are here, and they side with the European. But all the gays who oppose African Liberation are coming from the Christian Church. These are demasculated males, sodomized and brutalized, they oppose the truth because it suits their perversion. If you are in league with them you are a traitor. Christianity, Islam and Judiasm shall die soon as Africa will be free before 2063. Ase.

KingSango:
What truth you speak of? Sometimes I think you guys be drunk, high or something. Speak what you mean? Get the nouns out. Ase.

KingSango:
There is no Jesus CHRIST. Love and raise up your daugthers so we can build up our males. Our men have become demasculated punks, most of these Black Masons are punks, most of these Pastors are punks, most of these Imams are punks, being the knights of European civilization. How disgusting. Treachery.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoDe31HUOyA

wapadunk:
We all know which one is really the religion of peace.

johnw74:
^^^
that's an interisting thread bro

https://www.nairaland.com/3504524/2016-remain-loyal-jehovah-regional#51684996


ChristianFreedo has more threads on jw here:

https://www.nairaland.com/christianfreedo

adajoe555:
Any jw here?

Nelson21:
What is this one saying?

spiritually and naturally

Please, thats your own PERSONAL VIEW of the bible.
Keep that believe to yourself.

NB: Am not a Jehovah wikness or witness or whatever.

CANTICLES:
U dont even understand urself .. u said Jesus is the SAME as the Father , YET contradict urself again by sayin the son is not the Father ! Hw can u teach people what u urself dont understand ?

johnw74:
shudder to think

johnw74:
ha ha, you was lying again when you said you Love me
wasn't you lie lie mall

Jessicha:
Show me where Jesus asked you to celebrate his birth ?

Show me where Jesus did his birthday in the bible?


Show me where the Apostles gather together to celebrate Jesus birth ?

johnw74:
ha ha, dum mall of no sense, this is a good one

@blue, how many times have you talked with me since then

dolphinheart:
You are the biggest liar I've ever met, just because you don't want to talk about that prophecy which spans more than one verse, you had to lie.


Your thoughts are running wild again, thinking someone is laughing.


You are quick to make statements that cannot be verified, probably because it's a lie.



You will do anything so as not to tell us about that that prophecy, what Isaiah said and why he said it.

themall:
The LIFE of Jesus is enough for me, and Christmas to me is NOT a sign of any God-given birthday. If any one says Easter (and other given Holidays) really doesn't matter, that will not be new in today's Christianity of do-it-the-way-that-suites-you.

Although giving is about Love, what matters most is NOT what days you would like to celebrate, but OBEDIENCE to how Jesus will wish to be celebrated. The point is, it is best to celebrate for a purpose-based only on how one is commanded. It is either one respects Jesus that we love by obeying him or ignore him and create a custom that he did not command. That's the spirit of submission and obedience.

And yes God is love (can anybody disagree with God).....and whenever you place sacrifice ABOVE obedience then you are no more with your loved ones-and HE is no more there!

themall:
@brocab @johnw74 @Septre @IlesanmiG @Hairyrapunzel to TO ALL RIGHTEOUS ONES, UNRIGHTEOUS ONES, HEAVEN-BOUND, HELL BOUND, APOSTATES, ANTICHRISTS, EXCOMMUNICATED, RESENTFUL-ONES, SPIRIT FILLED CHRISTIANS, PENTECOSTAL THEOLOGIANS, RESEARCHERS, JWs, MFMs, COWARDS, COURAGEOUS and everybody on NAIRALAND

Can you all make sense of the link sent to me by a Nairalander...

1. As a general event Christmas is driven by commercialism

2. There is the question of why Christmas is nowhere mentioned in the Bible

3. Some observe that Jesus wasn’t born on or near December 25

4. For many orthodox schools-of-thought the Christmas holiday is largely a recycled pagan celebration

5. Many believers in Christianity and Islam and Judaism says God condemns using pagan customs to worship Him (Deuteronomy 12:30-32, 2 Corinthians 6)

6. Many people are saying that Christmas is worshiping God in vain ((Mark 7:6-9)

7. You can’t put Christ back into something He was never in

8. The Bible nowhere tells us to observe a holiday celebrating Jesus Christ’s birth —but it clearly does tell us to commemorate His death.

9. Christmas obscures God’s plan for mankind.

a) Passover, has enormous significance in God’s plan for humanity. The Old Testament Passover, described in Exodus 12, was symbolic of Jesus Christ’s future role and sacrifice.
Paul alluded to this great truth when he wrote in 1 Corinthians 5:7 that “Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.” Similarly John the Baptist, speaking under divine inspiration, said of Jesus, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!” (John 1:29).

b) Peter wrote that we are redeemed “with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot” (1 Peter 1:19)—a clear reference to the Passover lambs (Exodus 12:5).

c) A central key to God’s plan for humanity is Jesus Christ’s sacrificial death on our behalf. He is “the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world” - Revelation 13: 8 —meaning His death for our sins was planned before the first human beings were ever created (1 Peter 1:18-20). Only through His death to pay the penalty for our sins can human beings receive God’s gift of eternal life (John 3:14-17; Acts 4:12; 1 Corinthians 15:20-22).

Christmas, in contrast, teaches us none of this. Regrettably, because it is a hodgepodge of unbiblical customs and beliefs thrown together with a few elements of biblical truth, it only obscures the incredible purpose of Jesus Christ’s coming—as well as why He must return to earth a second time!
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10. Would you not rather celebrate the Holy Days Jesus Christ and the apostles observed?

johnw74:
mall, oh confused one, I haven't discussed Pastor D.K. Olukoya, or Mountain of Fire Ministries,
or Christmas, here, or on another thread

I recall saying to bro:
"just about anytime is good to celebrate Jesus birth", and I believe it.

and I understand how antichrists like you don't believe it's good to celebrate Jesus birth.



As far as Christmas and 25th dec. goes, I don't know the date of Jesus birth
and a fat man in a red costume has nothing to do with Jesus birth

but celebrating Jesus birth, I sure would, at anytime, unlike you antichrists

dolphinheart:
brocab, tell us about the prophecy of Isaiah
what was the background to the prophecy?
what caused isaiah to give that prophecy?
who was isaiah directing the prophecy to?
was the prophecy fulfilled in Isaiahs time?

though I know you will not answer those questions, but I know others will examine them and come to a better knowledge about that prophecy and it's fulfillment.

dolphinheart:
what was the background to the prophecy?
what caused isaiah to give that prophecy?
who was isaiah directing the prophecy to?
was the prophecy fulfilled in Isaiahs time?

though I know you will not answer those questions, but I know others will examine them and come to a better knowledge about that prophecy and it's fulfillment.

I really don't know, in what way are you trying to prove your point

dolphinheart:
continue, I'll rather follow the words of the psalmist
Ps 83:18 May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth.

And to God himself
Isa 42:8 I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, Nor my praise to graven images.


YOU CAN LIE!!
I did not tell you to answer Luke 1:31 , look at what I asked you to do below:
"Go and read the 1611 edition of the KJV, post what luke 1: 31 says here, tell us how that translation spelt the name of the son of God in that verse and why you , a defender of that 1611 translation do not spell the name in that manner!



I do not wish to give you any extermination.


show me the question you asked that I did not answer.

Are you saying I've never talked about these verses?


in what way do I currupt your page, do you have a page?


you have not read the prophecy, go and read it again, you are just stating the sign associated with the prophesy, go and read all that Isaiah told the king. not just one verse.



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But the scriptures say he will be called by the name Immanuel, so are you now saying no one is called by that name?


Good, do you also know other prophecies of Jesus by isaiah, Jehovah called Jesus his servant, he will guide and approve him, he will exalt him.



Your falsehood becomes more evident every time you mention the scriptures let's look at the verses you mentioned

1.jer 23:5“Look! The days are coming,” declares Jehovah, “when I will raise up to David a righteous sprout. And a king will reign and show insight and uphold justice and righteousness in the land.

brocab, look at what the verse says, Jehovah is saying he will raise up to David a root. A person with a sincere mind will realise that Jehovah, who is talking their is not the root that will be raised. It is clearly evident that Jehovah is talking about about someone else, not himself. This fact is surported by the following scriptures below:
Isa 11:1A twig will grow out of the stump of Jesʹse, And a sprout from his roots will bear fruit.
Isa 53:2 He will come up like a twig before him, like a root out of parched land. No stately form does he have, nor any splendor; And when we see him, his appearance does not draw us to him.
Jer 33:15, 16 In those days and at that time I will cause to sprout for David a righteous sprout, and he will execute justice and righteousness in the land.16In those days Judah will be saved and Jerusalem will reside in security. And this is what she will be called: Jehovah Is Our Righteousness.’”
Zec 3:8“‘Hear, please, O High Priest Joshua, you and your companions who sit before you, for these men serve as a sign; look! I am bringing in my servant Sprout!

HOW CAN YOU READ ALL THIS PROPHECIES FROM JEHOVAH AND SAY JEHOVAH IS THE ROOT OF DAVID.
There are even more prophecies about jesus in which jehovah called jesus his servant!

The issue of kingship is mentioned in that verse, let's look at what the KJV says about that
King James Version
Lu 1:32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Brocab, whichever name you call the Lord God, watever the argument is about the name, it is cLear that the "Lord God " who will give jesus the throne of his father David is not the same person as jesus!, therefore jesus is not the Lord God.


look again at another part of that verse which talks about upholding justice and righteousness in the land. If we examine the prophecies of isaiah, we will see that jehovah cannot be the root of jesse, the root of David.
Isa 11:1A twig will grow out of the stump of Jesʹse, And a sprout from his roots will bear fruit.
Isa 11:2And the spirit of Jehovah will settle upon him, The spirit of wisdom and of understanding, The spirit of counsel and of mightiness, The spirit of knowledge and of the fear of Jehovah.
Isa 11:3And he will find delight in the fear of Jehovah. He will not judge by what appears to his eyes, Nor reprove simply according to what his ears hear.
read also
Isa 53:2
Re 5:5
Re 22:16

did jesus fufill this prophecies? Yes!
JEHOVAH'S SPIRIT SETTLE UPON JESUS
[b]Isa 42:1 Look! My servant, whom I support! My chosen one, whom I have approved! I have put my spirit in him; He will bring justice to the nations.
Joh 1:32John also bore witness, saying: “I viewed the spirit coming down as a dove out of heaven, and it remained upon him.
Ac 10:38about Jesus who was from Nazʹa·reth, how God anointed him with holy spirit and power,and he went through the land doing good and healing all those oppressed by the Devil, because God was with him.

HE FINDS DELIGHT IN THE FEAR OF JEHOVAH
Heb 5:7 During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear.

JESUS IS THE ROOT
[b]Re 22:16“‘I, Jesus, sent my angel to bear witness to you about these things for the congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David and the bright morning star.’
BROCAB, YOU READ ALL THIS VERSES AND YOU STILL HAVE A CONSCIENCE TO SAY JESUS IS JEHOVAH?


2. Jer 23:6In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel will reside in security. And this is the name by which he will be called: Jehovah Is Our Righteousness.”

if you read the scriptures, you would have understood why he was called "jehovah is our righteouness".
Isa 54:17No weapon formed against you will have any success, And you will condemn any tongue that rises up against you in the judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of Jehovah, And their righteousness is from me,” declares Jehovah.

A further understanding comes when we examine it's use in jer 33: 14-16
[b]Jer 33:14 “‘Look! The days are coming,’ declares Jehovah, ‘when I will fulfill the good promise that I have spoken concerning the house of Israel and the house of Judah
Jer 33:15 In those days and at that time I will cause to sprout for David a righteous sprout, and he will execute justice and righteousness in the land.
Jer 33:16In those days Judah will be saved and Jerusalem will reside in security. And this is what she will be called: Jehovah Is Our Righteousness.’”
hope you can see that "jehovah is our righteousness" Is not the name of any person. There is a reason a person or place bears that title!


jesus was not called yahweh/jehovah because he is not yahweh/jehovah, it's as simple as that. jesus brought people to the the almighty God who is Yahweh/jehovah and not to himself , he is the way to God, his father, jehovah , almighty God.


The underlined is false.


Jesus was a god, a mighty god, but he became flesh and dwelled with mankind. He was a man when was on earth. If jesus was God while he was on earth, it would have proven Satan to be right, that no perfect man can serve God till death. because jesus will be more than a perfect man.



Go and read the whole prophecy of Isaiah, not just the sign.

you responded go my post, but you refuse to answer the questions asked :
" go and read the 1611 edition of the KJV, post what luke 1: 31 says here, tell us how that translation spelt the name of the son of God in that verse and why you , a defender of that 1611 translation do not spell the name in that manner!

your refusal to quote that verse from the 1611 version and explain why you don't spell the name in like manner will show how deep into falsehood you really are!"

YOU HAVE REFUSED TO DO SO, YOU AGAIN SHOW DEEP IN FALSEHOOD YOU ARE ANYTIME YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER CUS YOU KNOW IT EXPOSES YOU.

The questions one needs to ask you is 
. where did the scripture say Abraham built an image.?
even if God's name is not jehovah, would that make it right for Abraham to build and image for worship?
did Abraham build an image for worship?

jworg:
My friend the truth is that the bible teaches that Jesus is a God even in the book of isaiah 9:6 calls him mighty God and Jehovah's witnesses do not dispute that at any time. But the area of interest is, Is Jesus equal in status to the almighty God? That is were we Jehovah's witnesses say No.. First of all in the book of Isaiah 9:6 i quoted earlier called Jesus a mighty God if Jesus is refered to as Mighty God then who is Almighty (remember comparative and superlative in english language). Secondly Jesus on so many occasion refered to himself as having a father matt 6:9, 10 (he said our father in the heaven which includes himself otherwise he would have said Your father in heaven) on the night he was killed he prayed to a higher God begging that he be spared the agony that was coming to prove the fact that he was talking to a superior he said, "Let not my will but yours take place" . Also in John 14:28 Jesus said that he is going to meet a father and that Father is greater than he is. So please don't get it twisted Jehovah's witnesses do demote Jesus or promote Jesus we preach Jesus exactly for what he is, that is he is our Redeemer, the king of kings enthroned in heaven as king of God's kingdom, the only begotten son of God (John 3:16) and so much more. But one thing we do not accept is that Jesus is same and equal to the almighty God. For more info visit jw. Org got to bible teachings for more answers

dolphinheart:
and I can bet he will never tell you, cus he had told you through his word in the scriptures, yet you disagree.
no wonder you could not pick up your 1611 bibLe and answer the questions below, even after it has been asked numerous times. when facts expose you, you resort to an unverifiable source.

" like I said, I was beginning to suspect you know little about the name jehovah, you just confirmed it. I will not teach you further , but I will leave a clue, go and read the 1611 edition of the KJV, post what luke 1: 31 says here, tell us how that translation spelt the name of the son of God in that verse and why you , a defender of that 1611 translation do not spell the name in that manner!

your refusal to quote that verse from the 1611 version and explain why you don't spell the name in like manner will show how deep into falsehood you really are!"

YOU HAVE REFUSED TO DO SO, YOU AGAIN SHOW DEEP IN FALSEHOOD YOU ARE ANYTIME YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER CUS YOU KNOW IT EXPOSES YOU.

The questions one needs to ask you is 
. where did the scripture say Abraham built an image.?
even if God's name is not jehovah, would that make it right for Abraham to build and image for worship?
did Abraham build an image for worship?

again you still refuse to answer that question, then I'll assume you are trying to lie against a faithful servant of God.

achorladey:
What else will your sort turn to. It all began with (-0) Please is there anything like negative zero in simple arithmetic, Simple number line you can't comprehend. Junior secondary school 2. Perhaps you need to read new general mathematics jss 2. It will come handy. Perhaps you have my score in computer language continue!!!!

dolphinheart:
fortunately, the scriptures never gave us that probability, it identifies who Jesus is:
The angels told Mary that Jesus the son of the most high and his father would give him a kingdom
Those who believed in jesus call him son of God
The disciple confirmed jesus as the son of the living God
God from heaven confirmed that jesus is his son three times.
The apostles confirmed that jesus is the son of their God
The scriptures confirmed that jesus was told by God to sit at his right hand
the scriptures tell us that the God of jesus is our God, the one God, Almighty God.


there is no probability, it has been proven Paul never said those words either personally or through inspiration. Those words were false additional to the bible by those who were fustrated that their is no direct support to their false doctrine in the scriptures. The word "theos" cannot be found in the best and oldest manuscripts.

brocab, read isaiah's prophecy, what you quoted was just a small part of the prophecy , read it and tell us if that prophecy Isaiah gave to the king was not fulfilled then, then tell us is that first Immanuel is God.

dolphinheart:
fortunately, the scriptures never gave us that probability, it identifies who Jesus is:
The angels told Mary that Jesus the son of the most high and his father would give him a kingdom
Those who believed in jesus call him son of God
The disciple confirmed jesus as the son of the living God
God from heaven confirmed that jesus is his son three times.
The apostles confirmed that jesus is the son of their God
The scriptures confirmed that jesus was told by God to sit at his right hand
the scriptures tell us that the God of jesus is our God, the one God, Almighty God.


there is no probability, it has been proven Paul never said those words either personally or through inspiration. Those words were false additional to the bible by those who were fustrated that their is no direct support to their false doctrine in the scriptures. The word "theos" cannot be found in the best and oldest manuscripts.

brocab, read isaiah's prophecy, what you quoted was just a small part of the prophecy , read it and tell us if that prophecy Isaiah gave to the king was not fulfilled then, then tell us is that first Immanuel is God.

dolphinheart:
another evidence to show that you will do anything to avoid answering those questions, I asked you a question, you are trying to convert it to a statement.
which names did God directly tell you "this is my name"?

" like I said, I was beginning to suspect you know little about the name jehovah, you just confirmed it. I will not teach you further , but I will leave a clue, go and read the 1611 edition of the KJV, post what luke 1: 31 says here, tell us how that translation spelt the name of the son of God in that verse and why you , a defender of that 1611 translation do not spell the name in that manner!

your refusal to quote that verse from the 1611 version and explain why you don't spell the name in like manner will show how deep into falsehood you really are!"

YOU HAVE REFUSED TO DO SO, YOU AGAIN SHOW DEEP IN FALSEHOOD YOU ARE ANYTIME YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER CUS YOU KNOW IT EXPOSES YOU.


broad is this (below) the verse you are referring to? if it is ,then you confirm more and more that you know little about jehovah!

The questions one needs to ask you is 
. where did the scripture say Abraham built an image.?
even if God's name is not jehovah, would that make it right for Abraham to build and image for worship?
did Abraham build an image for worship?

again you still refuse to answer that question, then I'll assume you are trying to lie against a faithful servant of God.