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Soon time some small brain lazy fuq would tell us vat was removed from sanitary pad because its fulani who manufactures it and the smaller minded lazy fuqs will believe it.

Really? I don't think the MayorofLagos got the memo!

MayorofLagos:
If you oppose Amotekun you are pro fualnization and pro islamization of Nigeria.

If you are against Amotekun, you support the immigration of West African fulanis into ruga settlements and you are against Nigerians!

ItooWorWor:
Stupid bloodsucking bastard spotted, you are a bloodsucker giving birth to by a beast with a crocodile father

And you are a lazy fuq who's too scared to use his brain for fear it would run out of cells.

T9ksy:
Yeah right.................. And how many time have we heard this same old story before but in the end, no one is apprehended for the crime. I bet, the culprit is from mali or chad ........................or probably futa jallon.

Or even Deltans robbing one another under the guise of Fulani herdsmen since they know that's what everyone already believes.

The way some go on you'd think no one robbed anyone before Fulani herdsmen entered their psyche.

ItooWorWor:
Suspected fulani herdmen have attacked and stabbed a commercial motorcycle operator, Jamilu Umaru to death in Udjevwu Community in Udu Local Government Area of Delta State.

See them. "Fulani Herdmen Stabs Man To Death In Delta", but in the body of the post you downgrade to "suspected herdsmen". Who needs politicians to delude you when you are more than capable of deluding yourself!

I bet no one saw no herd, or Fulani sef. Just lets call all armed robbers "herdsmen" because that's what would get the 'herd' going!

Stoopid lazy fuqs, is all I can say.

younglleo:
Is like taraba pdp have exhausted there sense bundle? Other pdp groups for east didn't protest nd it will be a state of almajiri dat is protesting for ipob.. Dis is insane

They love them ni now. Look at some Ipobs and herdsmen supporting amotekun too. They have their agenda, most just do not realise it is the further destabilisation of our country Nigeria, and the others want that destabilisation so they can loot while the rest are occupied elsewhere.

[quote author= post=85940339]Lol

Atiku can now open his mouth to talk on this issue also.
Same thing he and his Oga never did for all the wasted and years of looting they were in power.
The era when the most popular song in Nigeria was Nigeria jagajaga!

A period that a sitting vice president has the company that import the largest numbers of generators in different shapes and sizes,
How will they ever want us to have electricity?
Why won't they want us to remain in perpetual darkness!

A nation that the same vice president and the sitting president both floated 2 private universities for themselves while the Federal and State universities were on endless strikes!
universities that they are still operating up till this present day!
There was a nation!
If only our Democracy started with a Man like Our darling Daddy, President Muhammadu Buhari......If and only If!

Supporters of evil and corrupt politicians you can now start quoting...
You have the floor now.............[/quote]Trust Atiku to support anything that destabilises the country so that he can loot with impunity. And those "Supporters of evil and corrupt politicians", think we are all too stupid to understand their evil plans!

They should dream on about their amotekun because that's the only place they'll get it.

saxha:
Being struggle to mention a comparable collection of books, makes it "the best book/library"?

That is my own opinion. You would note that it is number 5 on my list of 10, and those that preceed it are all fiction, with one set of books I described as porn.

Perhaps see the other books on the list before jumping to baseless conclusions.

saxha:
An hearsay can be considered " best book/library"?

The entire book is not hearsay, but even if it is, that does not, in my opinion, detract from the book.

saxha:
Your definition of scripture is just a religious book, but not holy book?

Not "just" saxha. I gave you one definition. The first definition for 'scripture' in Google actually comes up with wikis "Religious Text", which I did not use because it did not specifically mention the word "Scripture" at the beginning. And Dictionary.com is too narrow since it only mentions "Old or New Testaments".

Osagyefo98:
My brother...

This is the only loophole AGF and FG is using to hold them here and they are just busy shouting up and down instead of doing the right thing.

Now let me tell you those guys are mischievous with this Amotekun, they are trying to be smart by half to know if it will work for them.


This will clearly tell you who actually supports constitutional review, restructuring and the rest.


They smartly avoid the constitution but are trying to muzzle the FG to know if it will sail through... Imagine.

let their senators rally others and head for show for constitutional review in national assembly instead of all these.

It's a typical attitude of many. They rush for simplistic solutions to complex problems with no understanding of the problem itself, then when the problem persists, rather than take responsibility for their own lazy fuqness, I bet you they'd be here wailing "na bubu"!

saxha:
According to you, A Book that at least part of it was written through hearsay is considered " Best Book/Library"?
Did you consider Bible as a scripture?

One of, saxha. You'd struggle to mention a comparable collection of books, and the hearsay elements do not in any way detract from it

And it is scripture by virtue of being a religious text, which is what scripture means.

Osagyefo98:
Amotekun is already dying because the whole process has been suspended until clearance comes from Abuja.

Moreover the only clearance from Abuja is to wash it off.


If SW needs that they should rally others for thorough constitutional review.

See where the problems lies and you running around the bush instead tackling the problems head on.

I doubt they understand what the Constitution says about states forming police. If they did, they'd do as you suggest and have the Constitution changed insted of attempting to form an illegal state police.

saxha:
So, according to you, Bible is just another Book, not a scripture, but a fantasy and fiction like "Things fall apart"?

I never said "Bible is just another Book, not a scripture, but a fantasy and fiction like "Things fall apart", saxha. I in fact called it "best book", which I upgraded to "best library", which I never said about Things Fall Apart.

The following might help you understand, though also read this link where I took up religion.

budaatum:
My fifth book was an immaculate white book ma got given when she'd married which I'd stolen from where she keeps emergency money and jewelry. It was wrapped in velvet, placed in a box, wrapped in a cloth, locked in a suitcase in a locked cupboard in her locked bedroom from where I took it. A book thief was bad. Then a money thief took the money that had been there when I stole her immaculate white book and ma was on the rampage, thankfully, about the money, and not about her immaculate white book which I promptly returned least she find the book and I get accused of stealing the money too.

I got given my own copy in school a couple of years later and it served as my go back to book for the next three years whenever I had nothing else to read. In it did I learn the development of an idea as it shows how Yahweh evolved from some constantly angry tyrannical God to a loving merciful Jesus God, except those around me seemed to have a different understanding to mine, which I now understand is due to their believing the book without understanding it, a condition my fourth book had healed me of. If only I'd had more faith in my own ability to understand at the time!

Book Title: The King James Version of the Holy Bible

Author: Various

First Encountered: 1976

It was this book that did make me realise what "believing" meant, and showed me I wasn't one. And on reading it to the end I did become an atheist, as in "an unbeliever". My understanding of it has been a constant influence however, and now that I'm reading it again I can only thank God that I have always been an understander instead of a believer, and my prayer is that I someday become a Knower.

StaffofOrayan:
I forgive you
Yoruba's don't want to be IDP cases
Are you not worried about the "herdsmen from Libya" that massacre villages?
Slit open the throats of children and the govt tells you to give up your land? Or learn to be good neighbors?

Sometimes u gotta help people think,
People that think the head is for wearing caps alone

Government did not and can not make me give up my land. As I've stated already but which you seem to be ignoring, we are already fighting those who want to take our land, which should show you the extent we'd go to keep it.

No "herdsmen from Libya" or anywhere else can come take it from us or our amotekun wanna bes would deal with them and their herd. It's Yorubaland, after all. I wonder what you think Oro is for if not for scaring foreigners who refuse to know their place and be good guests.

StaffofOrayan:
My friend you people need Amotekun if you are truly from there,

You, who thought my Orolu Kingdom is in the North of Nigeria, are telling me what my Kingdom needs?

Please forgive me for endeavouring to use my own brain instead of borrowing yours.

saxha:
According to your own standard, for a book that you accepted was written/parts of it was written through hearsay, and which you chose to accept some parts and reject the other parts. Can that book be "the best book" as you once claimed here, or called a scripture; a holy book, a sacred writing, authoritative writing?

You are the one who refered to it as "scripture; a holy book, a sacred writing, authoritative writing", saxha, and not I. If you cared to note and follow this conversation you are having with me here, I've compared it to Things Fall Apart which no one calls "scripture; a holy book, a sacred writing, authoritative writing", and the initial impression I got was that you were accusing me of not seeing it as" scripture; a holy book, a sacred writing, authoritative writing" when you held me up on my "humans wrote it" statement.

As for it being one of the "best book", please upgrade that to "best library of books" by virtue of it being many books compiled and compacted in one bound book. For most, its the only library of books they know.

StaffofOrayan:
Amotekun Orolu vs Neighbors Amotekun
Hahahaha is that some kind of joke?
Now you are the one with preconceived wild ideas. Let you villagers shed your little hate and join the yoruba nation, this is bigger than your LGA

It may sound like a kind of joke to you, but it isn't a joke to us in the Orolu Kingdom. Our Orolu Kingdom Fulanis are relatively peaceful people. If they cause us trouble we will trouble their cattle. And the Orolu-Neighbour war is an ongoing real one in which people have died. It would be silly of me to be worried about that which does not cause me trouble while ignoring that which does.

StaffofOrayan:
You sound like the indigenes of Orolu are animals just waiting for weapons to descend of their neighbors.
Amotekun is not a LGA militia, they are registered with the state, no weapons would be distributed about, if Hausa-Fulanis, igbos and indigenes themselves are peaceful then why get worried?
I remember when the border was closed, the supporters had a simple question
"Are you a smuggler"
Ask yourself "are you a terrorist or a sympathizer?"

I advise you read carefully with an aim to understand instead of blinding yourself with your preconceived inferred ideas!

No, I do not "sound like indigenes of Orolu are animals just waiting for weapons to descend on their neighbors".

We, the indigenes of the Orolu Kingdom will descend on any one who refuses to dwell peacefully amongst us, and we already descend on our neighbours whenever they descend our land. And they too will have amotekun if it were allowed which would result in an Orolu Kingdom Amotekun vs Neighbour Amotekun's war and bloodshed.

saxha:
You do not reject any part of the Bible, and
at the same time, you do not accept the part where God killed children in the Bible?
Isn't that a confusion on your part?

You mean, you are confused that I do not "accept the bit where it is written that God killed children"?

My views regarding are extensive in this thread, and if you are a reader of buda you would know my antipathy to believing instead of bothering to gain understanding. To understand requires extensive work doing research, while believing is a lazy fuq thing satan is said to do and tremble, which I see no merit emulating.

Note how the reports of what God is alleged to have done are not in the first person a la "I, God, did so and so", but in the third person "God did" as reported by some third party. I guess I'm not naive enough to believe God did a thing just because I read it in a book, same as I wouldn't believe the tortoise borrowed feathers and flew to heaven.

StaffofOrayan:
So Orolu Kingdom of Osun State needs Amotekun ??
Abi the insecurity never tire you?
You want it to remain the same?
Explain pls

Orolu Kingdom of Osun State does not need Amotekun because no Fulani terrorises us or make us insecure on our fatherland! We have Fulani herdsmen, but nobody born their mama and papa for them to be causing trouble in the Kingdom! If they dare, our unofficial amotekun to bes will set up a new festival likely called Fulani Herdsmen which we will celebrate with their cattle! We too like meat to resist. Besides, our 'enemies' are our own neighbours, who we accuse and constantly fight for allegedly stealing our land. Any arming of my people will be to fight them, and not Fulanis who peacefully live amongst us, which is one reason I am against amotekun as it would be used to resolve old rivalries that have nothing to do with Fulani or herds of cattles.

For your information, Hausas have dwelt amonst us in the Orolu Kingdom for decades. The came to buy our kolanut and have literally become indigenes and use our old cocoa warehouses as depots for beans and maize from the North. Igbos have turned Agunbelewo along Osogbo-Ogbomoso Road into Aba market whilst living in the peaceful Orolu Kingdom. And Fulanis are plenty as they get to fatten their cows with the tall grass along the Owalla River before taking them to market.

saxha:
Perhaps I should use another verb, why do you accept/acknowledge some parts of the Bible that you consider a scripture, but reject other part

I do not reject any part. Rejecting parts would distort understanding.

As I've said, humans wrote it, and research shows some of the writings were not done by actual witnesses. C.f. Luke 1:2 - "just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word".

That however does not mean one can't learn from (understand) what is written in it as opposed to just reading and believing what is written in it.

We may not believe Things Fell Apart, but many have learnt a lot from reading Things Fall Apart.

Forgive my impatience saxha. I'm dealing with many today who seem to prefer what they have created in their heads and chosen to believe instead of checking the actual evidence that is in front of their eyes.

saxha:
Are you saying, you don't believe the part where Jesus was born by a virgin Mary in the Bible?

If yes, my question still remains, why do you chose to believe some parts of a Bible which you accepted as a scripture, but reject some other parts?

buda does not believe, period!

Please read about it here.
https://www.nairaland.com/5178192/questions-budaatum-how-follow-jesus

StaffofOrayan:
You Northerners need help,
All your villages are empty
All your youths have fled their cities and are driving Okada or fetching water in the south,
we would never allow you turn SW to one big IDP camp

The Orolu Kingdom of Ifon Osun is not in the North. I've highlighted it on a map for you so you can attempt to reduce your own ignorance.

saxha:
@bolded, 1. No it doesn't reduce those morals at all. 2. Men wrote it (at least, that's my own thinking)

Now, my question is:
This same Bible that was written by men and it's still a scripture, tells you two different stories, you accepted the story of Jesus, but rejected the part where God killed children.

May I ask why?

Do you mean buda accepted the story about Jesus being born without his mother having sex with a man and that after being crucified he now sits at the side of God judging the living and the dead? If so, I'm glad we are not talking about Chinua Achebe's Things Fall Apart, or you might claim buda "accepts" that the tortoise borrowed feathers from the birds so it could join them in a banquet in heaven and its shell cracked because it was greedy!

Please go through the thread and read Shepherd00's responses to buda to disabuse yourself of your illusions about buda.

Turantula:
It is because you are a Yoruba Muslim, we expect you to support your moon sighters. Please when we talk about omualabi(s) we don't expect you to participate.
Shalom

Shalom to you too.

Painting others with a label you wish they wore is a sort of blindness. It shows that the crap you create in your head and believe is more important to you than actual reality.

I wonder why you'd expect non-blind people to take you serious if you are willing to create crap in your head about a fellow human being of whom you can check your assumptions instead of making an ass out of yourself.

saxha:
I will assume, your answers are "Bible is not less of a scripture because it was written by men, and you get to know Jesus through Bible that was written by men".

Bravo!

saxha:
If so, going by your previous statement, it is safe to say it wasn't 'Bible' that tells us all the moral teachings of Jesus, but it was Bible that was written by men?

I don't know of any other book that "tells us all the moral teachings of Jesus" though you'd find those teachings in other books too if you read widely enough. The fact its all compiled into one book does make it easily accessible however, which is a good thing considering how few books are easily available in Nigeria on the topics Jesus is written to have taught.

Does the Bible being written by men (human beings, if you may), reduce those morals one bit in your opinion, and who do you think wrote it?

Tiasma:
A good book to teach you this lesson is one written by Ayn Rand (a woman like you but with a male hero) titled FOUNTAINHEAD.

Over a thousand pages in tiny print to learn about the "ideal man" and find your Randian Hero

Good thing is every page would help you consider your own self worth too.

Michellekabod2:
I just figured out i want to end the friendship, I don't know why. I am tired. I want to walk away. The passion is still there but i want to be away. I wanted to get a new SIM but my conscience will not. What has kept me from doing this is because i wonder how he will feel..

I want to walk away. Will i regret this?

Someone must have said something about village people doing you, but I'm afraid I can't read the entire thread to tell, so would appreciate if someone could point me to a few.

Some people seem not to like their own happiness and would find ways to destroy the little they have.

Will you regret it? Well, that depends. We humans are very adept at convincing ourselves to believe what we wish to believe, so you might not regret it at all. But, you know if you've regretted men you dumped in the past, and in this case, that might be very predictive of the future.

Trust me, he'll get over it. I just doubt you'd do, since you are expressing unhappiness here.

Tinubu too get sense for this one. If he speaks up for amotekun we would say he wants to set up his personal militia to intimidate his opponents and if he doesn't support it we'd say he's bought Presidency by selling us as slaves to the North.

Amotekun is a lose-lose for the bullion van Jaguda!

Riverstekun too? Seems everywhere is being tekunised! Police better be stopping this nonsense!

Realtord43:
Take a second and imagine Nigeria without fulani, just imagine it 4 a second. No miyetti Allah, No Buhari. wont that be peaceful?

I don't think Nigeria would be peaceful without Fulani. Yorubas and Igbos dislike themselves enough to create unpeacefulness on their own. I have not come across any miyetti Allah or Fulani or Buhari on here and it often isn't peaceful, and my own Orolu Kingdom is in battle with Ilobu with no miyetti Allah or Fulani or Buhari input.

In fact, it would not surprise me if the whole of Osogbo takes up arms against the new residents of Agunbẹlewo for supposedly turning their neighborhood into Aba market!