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LordReed:
What do you call someone who knows the truth but actively avoids telling it?

A liar.

Why do you assume someone who tells a lie knows the truth and is actively avoiding telling it?

Ranchhoddas:
Another attempt.

Jesus expressly admonishes:


Matthew 6: 19- 21

Do not lay up for yourself treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourself treasures in heaven where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is there your heart will be also.

What is meant by treasures?

How does one store the meant treasures where moths nor dust can't destroy it and where thieves cannot break in and steal it?

MuttleyLaff:
Another angle and attempt buddatum

"Why should a fool have money in his hand to buy wisdom when he doesn't have a mind to grasp anything?"
(i.e. It does a fool no good to spend money on an education, because he has no common sense.)
- Proverbs 17:16

Hear in KJV:

"Wherefore is there a price in the hand of a fool to get wisdom, seeing he hath no heart to it?" Proverbs 17:16

No heart to getting wisdom, or no heart to pay the price of getting wisdom? The same wisdom that crieth out in the public square, "please simple, have some?"

Nice try.

Difrent:
Nigeria is not a zoo.

Thanks op. Only caged animals call their country zoo.

Michellekabod2:
Not again,Buda.....who is my mentor?!
I don't know why I have a feeling you are kinda paint theists the victim....

PS:post modified

You know who mentored you! And I do pick you out. From ported to deported, I kind of hope you read some Gospel during intermission. And I do not paint theists the victim. The distinction is not so obvious, and you are as bad as one another. I'm sure I read where you'd changed 09. Are we two year olds?

While you, 09 and my Lord may differ, the rather unappealing disregard for each other is so disimilar that I'm inclined to tie you all down and flog you with a Jesus whip except I lack the might. Imagine a discussion, argument even, without the personals or bogey threats, would one not see the Light?

I will pray instead, that the Lord God breath through the nostrils of Michelle, my Lord and 09 et al for what ever reason God will.

Say, "Amen" if thou wilt.

Banned4truths:
**The stories I read in Quran about the prophets(thousands years before prophet Mohammad) e.g Noah,John,Zacharias, Mary,Jesus ,Abraham etc are far DIFFERENT compared to the ones in the Bible.

My questions is this;which of these stories are true the one in Quran or Bible? Am so confused.

Have you read your Bible? Did you not find contradicting stories in it? Are they all not true?

Heres some reading on inconsistencies in the Bible and in the Quran.

Explain to me why your attitude to one is different to the other.

A reminder.

Liekiller:
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

From: http://www.evilbible.com/Top_Ten_List.htm

hakeem4:
I still do not understand how god a spiritual being can have contact with we material beings. If you claim he can create life that means he can have contact with us then god should be measurable

Indeed, you do not understand, and your honesty, for what its worth, is commended.

I'd admit, "then god should be measurable". But have you the instruments to measure a god, if such a thing exists, I'm wondering.

Michellekabod2:
Don't expect a sane response from theists....

Seems you took more from your onetime mentor than one thought. Pity its the wrong bit. For some reason, I expect better. And from you too 09, with your hell! Did you just write off your neighbours as insane because they know different to you?

You, my Lord. I guess it depends on the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills, which one might lack, or have and not know one has. Imagine an advocate of evolution refusing to evolve and you'll get what is meant.

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LoJ:
It is true, I learnt English as a fourth language after German French and Spanish. Still, let people read the following quotes:

Let each one read the aforementioned quotes, and see for themselves who is the fool here.

Greetings.

Isn't it funny how I who asked you the question is satisfied by your response. Incidentally, the post that makes up this thread was in response to the same individual!

I should pay £50 for answers because that was a clue.

joseph1013:
WHY CREATIONISTS TELL LIES

When you believe lies, you may have to use lies to defend your beliefs. But you know you are doing this, right?

Instead of calling creationists ignorant, you wrongly misrepresent them as liars. How can I be lying by believing only what I know? Creationists are not liars, they are just created in the image of their creators and are one stage in the long process of evolution. And unless they be born again, they shall not see the Kingdom of God.

If you yourself are honest, you would have mercy upon my mind. If you yourself are honest, you could even make me evolve from the believing liar you perceive me as though ignorant I am, to a knowledgeable individual who believes not but knows.

So, thank the Lord that the Evolutioner was sent, or humans would have remained in primate stage.

Don't you dare "Com'on buda", me! Its you! I know you only care what God thinks of you, but don't you know you have a reputation? You are impatient. Its not an accusation, just my observed opinion. It means you are restlessly eager, and everyone knows no bullshit on buda thread except you. And as Bush once said, "bite me once I bite you first and more", or something with a similar meaning. I wouldn't say turning the other cheek works with you.

Your answer is noted.

Deep down in the vaults of thought, Earth lives, so technically, even things that sprung up from the Earth, like plants, animals, humans, you, indeed came from a living earth. We are after all discussing a text written so far in the past translated many times in which we read a report of what God is supposed to have done. Or they were there, my Lord, recording what God did?

I'm seeing strawpeople my Lord!

Informer155:
butaadum answered my number two question this way(see screeshot).
but I need more light on what he said....how do you mean.budaatun? empiree help him pls

Tell me what you understand from what I have said so far.

jesusjnr:
Lol!

That was supposed to be my answer.

No wahala, just try and reveal the answer at some point.

You only answered an hour ago yet see your impatience!

This post has so far raised £7734. The answer will be revealed when someone gets it right or when I'm ready.

jesusjnr:
I Want To Be The Richest Man On Earth

I want to be the richest man on Earth, but by distribution and not by accumulation of riches.

For I believe the richest man ever in the history of the world by distribution is Jesus, considering the amount of wealth that He distributed to the poor and needy either directly or indirectly via His most influential teachings which was so emphatic of giving of alms to the poor.

The extent of emphasis Jesus placed on distribution of wealth to the poor and needy, was such that it became synonymous with His person while He was on Earth, that a times some rich men instead of giving of their riches directly to Jesus, they would instead distribute it to the poor and needy knowing that in giving to the poor and needy that they had done it unto Him.

Therefore Jesus had made giving to Him not mean just giving to Him directly or making donations to His ministry, but also giving to the poor and needy, for it also meant giving to Him.

Matthew 25:40 (KJV)

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

I honestly believe that if you truly do what you described above, even your neighbour will say the Lord God Almighty enriches jnr!

I'm wondering if you are approaching the point of 'go, and sin no more'. Are you reflecting yet jnr?

Rashduct4luv:
I think this is understandable as the scripture from Almighty God would not be written by men.

True. Women were involved too but "men" of those days were tyrants. How dare anyone reduce the immense influence [url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary%2C_mother_of_Jesus?wprov=sfla1]of[/url] Sayyidatuna Siddiqah Tahira who "[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%201:27-2:34&version=KJV]spake[/url] to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever". We often forget she read while Joseph was off hammering wood. There should be no doubt she taught her son to read so I propose her the source of injeel.

Rashduct4luv:
We are talking about the Scripture Jesus preached to his disciples and the lost sheep of Israel. Or did he preached the Gospel of Matthew or Mark or Luke or John or the letters of Saul/Paul?

No, Jesus did not preach "the Gospel of Matthew or Mark or Luke or John", since they are autobiographical, written after he died. In Luke, we specifically read "they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word".

Some make a similar erroneous claim that Moses wrote Genesis - Deuteronomy, when the latter describes him dying. It a thing those who used words must be aware of, and that's a beauty of the book. It allows those who see to separate wheat from chaff and think better and write effectively.

Scripture (Books!) is good writing. Allowing them to transform the mind is what is meant by "There is God". As to Prophets? Thousands, unless you prefer malnutrition!

Here's one. The power of words.

jaxxy:
Yes I agree with u bt that doesn’t mean in such low places of service u shud exercise ur civil rights in protest when things above u are going wrong. I can not keep quiet in the face of wrong doing and intentional and continuous bad governance. Protests is part of governance for those who can get any lower positions in government, businessmen, civil servant etc..

Protest is the way u correct or express ur disaffection to bad policies of government in democracy. It is legal and ur right.

I love protesting. When I drive, all my paper is correct so I sit on my bonnet and read a book whenever police stop me and hold on to my particulars. I'm protesting. When dem tire dem go kuku let me go. Even when I'm breaking the law driving a right hand UK registered lorry full of books from Lagos to Osun, I just wave book in their face. Protest! In my frequent areas police know me as protester and don't even bother, and I know my battle is not against flesh and blood.

Here, where I live, I protest. I go on marches and I bother people. I guess its the advanced democracy we practise here, my local MP holds walk in surgery once a month and I can always write her and get a response. That, is how enlightened people, which we need to become, protests, and not by aluta in the streets a la 80s they still seem to teach in our schools!

Bloggers will soon post contact details of our representatives, then we'll start bugging them. We Nigerians need to practise the art of holding our representatives to account, and by my bubu's end? We'll run things. Or be closer than we currently are.

jesusjnr:
The knowledge is his and anyone he revealed it to.

So you don't know. What are you doing here jnr if the answer has not been revealed to you?

jesusjnr:
It depends on the 40 year old.

How? Why?

jaxxy:
Can we all be presidents, Governors, Senators at thesame time? So we shud be sitting and looking while thing go bad to worse until we each get our chance to lead?? Are u kidding me??


Infact we need to ask did Buhari and others commit treason by protesting against Jonathan government back then

Do you have to be "Presidents, Governors, Senators" to effect change? Can you lead in big things if you have not led in smaller things first? Is leadership a given chance or an opportunity taken?

No, I kid you not. Give yourself time to develop and you will leader.

jaxxy:
I want to think Nigerians are easily intimidated that’s why we have been in same situation for so long. Even rwanda and Somali have overtaken us in many ways cos they where ready to stand up for their rights and demand change.

Buhari who came with a change mantra has refused to change anything and yet still sleeping on the job.

He protested for change bt has refused to allow Nigerians now to protest for better governance.

You should not be protesting for better governance. You, should be working at governing better.

Or are you ineligible?

Aonkuuse:
He expected Buhari he knew before as an extremist to fold his hands and watch revolution protest to take place. Sowore is really a joke

Dem no sabi say im bi soja!

Blabbermouth:
He came and said, "well, we also don't know, we could only theorize".
I laughed so hard on seeing the statement, LOGIC ITSELF HATH REALLY FAILED THEM. We then said unto him " What theories do u have that is logically sound". He said "The big Bang" . Even the originator of this theory would have dropped a disclaimer. We said "Okay, Okay, let's assume your theory is Right, Then Big Bang should be God". He felt like taking his statements back, as crude as it sounds, we were right. He began to fret, and we decided to remove the pressure off him, and show him more.
TBC....

I like that. Refutes none of what davien said above though.

davien:
Your logic doesn't work... So you can't say a god/gods exists based on it.

A rebuttal, proof or even a reassessment of your argument was not provided.

To be honest, it's nothing but false equivalence and misrepresentations.

Something always exists..

You group everything that does into the term "eternal something"

You impose it has no needs not already met by itself and yet again impose a will that requires it to have wants.. Thus not only contradicting yourself but conjuring an unsubstantiated claim that can't be logically proven but require evidence.

You claim all things that create/produce other things are in of themselves greater than their creations while ignoring things like atoms, people, DNA, matter, the gases that form our atmosphere, electrons, protons, that form/produce things greater than themselves through cause and effect.

Then add a gender to which your "eternal something" can be addressed and then finally landing on your preconceived bias and terming it God.

If you have to go to such great lengths of bad logic to believe in god, is it worth the mental loops.. Since it doesn't make sense, why not use faith instead of dishonesty?

Lol!

Me Too them!

Empiree:
You seen his confusion too. I was wondering what he's reading in his own thread when I saw that, and he still doesn't understand himself.

In Christianese, we say clay has not been rubbed in his eyes and he has not washed in the pool of Siloam. I'm certain there is a Quran equivalent.

Informer155:
Ohhh!! Not true?? Do Allah lie?? Empiree help.

يٰيَحْيٰى خُذِ الْكِتٰبَ بِقُوَّةٍ  ۖ وَءَاتَيْنٰهُ الْحُكْمَ صَبِيًّا
"[Allah] said, O John, take the Scripture with determination. And We gave him judgement [while yet] a boy"


Who said that words up isn't it Allah talking? Is it true or lie?.......my batrry why are you down na? See you tomorrow sir.

Why do you ask if "Allah lied", when Allah has never spoken to you? Did Allah lie to you? Did John not take Scripture with determination? Was Christ not judging at 12?

Is it not the truth that you read it in a book that was written by someone that "Allah said"? Are you impoverished because they wrote it? Do you really think the world would be a better place if nobody had written "Allah said"?