₦airaland Forum

Gandollar:
Partly because stupid was educated into them through holding on tight to the archaic religious beliefs which are no longer viable in the 21st century and partly because even those that had ventured out refused to imbibe acceptable global realities of the present century.

Thank you. Though I get to see very many who have imbibed "acceptable global realities of the present century", where they find them acceptable.

I think those who educate stupid into them have been very effective to date and it's about time the curricula changes, and it's those who know better that could achieve this. And if we aren't in charge already then perhaps we go back to school to learn how and be better. Evil must not thrive where lampholders stride! And we should love our neighbours and have no enemies or love them more. At least those who read a Bible should. For though we may separate the wheat from the chaff after it grows, the chaff still reduces the wheat yield if they grow together. And I don't mean kill their religion, but perhaps understand better. The stupid some are being taught is no way godly, and it's definitely not a fruit of Islam.

Maximus69:
You're confusing yourself girl!

You formerly asked 'Why aren't Jehovah's Witnesses salt of the earth?'

Now you're saying this again!

Well i hope you're been watched closely because i can feel something is definitely wrong somewhere!

Salt of the earth, in my own opinion, should be out there making sure the evildoers change their ways, is what I think, which is what Jws and just about every other religion is out there doing. Let your fruit glorify the Lord, is it written. But I guess some would need to focus on the Word too.

Go see a doctor for your wrong feeling max. You know buda is very well thank you.

Treepower2000:
They won't make to ask rock unless there is a revolution.
Imagine what happened in Ekiti, Osun, Rivers and other states where the will of the people were put under serious threat and some citizens of those states were in support of the reprehensive actions because of their selfish interests.

I'm from Osun State. We voted APC to my utter amazement after that useless Aregbe. And as far as I'm concerned, even if they rigged it they only succeeded because they were smarter than the loser.

Solution? Education, I'd propose.

Gandollar:
Now take it upnorth, the story is very different. The rich can only throw crumbs to the poor for the poor to chorus rankadede ........

The question is, why? Is it because they love their rich so much? Or because they like being poor and shouting rankadede? Or because stupid isn't educated out of them. Or because stupid is educated into them?

Maximus69:
If you've found the SALT, then you don't need to bother about JWs again since you're sure that THEY'RE NOT THE SALT OF THE EARTH!

You said JWs weren't the salt of the earth max!

Maximus69:
Jehovah's Witnesses aren't thinking of going to live in heaven Ma, 99.9% of Jehovah's Witnesses globally have the hope of living forever in Paradise on earth when all evildoers are no more! Psalms 37:7-11, Proverbs 2:20-22, Isaiah 35:6,65:21-23, Matthew 5:5

And to be honest, I don't believe you. I'm sure there's quite a lot of JWs out there being salt of the earth as there are Muslims, Pagans, Hindus, Buddhists etc too. Just that when you say the evildoers are no more, I can't help wonder what is going to happen to them. And I can't help think rain don't fall on one person's house either. You might have a big umbrella, I suppose.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiCbX7lncxc

Treepower2000:
The whole crisis in Nigeria is intentional. The politicians want to cage and controlthe citizens and the best way to achieve that is to arm criminals who terrorise the populace.
It is only when you are alive that you will talk about looting of your state resources. The total number of politicians controlling Nigeria are not up to 5000 persons and they determine who gets what hence the Godfathers won't tolerate any deviation from their so called stooges and recycling of failed and dying old men when we have young technocrats who have made it all over the country.

I think Happy would say if "we have young technocrats who have made it all over the country", why is it that they haven't made it to Aso Rock yet?

Education perhaps? "Made it" might not be the main criteria for winning elections. Did you know Dan Fodio's Jihad was against the same oppression?

Might you consider they were intentionally kept ignorant so they could be controlled with religion? I'm suggesting they are victims and not willing compliers in their own exploitation.

Gandollar:
. No I'm not. These realities were there even before I was born.

Religion made them reject education.

Religion made them reject immunization

Religion made them reject integration

Their elites used religion to prevent them from reasoning for themselves.

Religion made them breed like rats because religion told a man it was ok to marry many wives

Religion made them take up arm's against the state. If you know what goes into the rebuilding of these communities ravaged by terrorism, you would marvel.

I can go on and on...

Maximus69:
Go as many times as possible for blood transfusion buda, nobody holds you back from saving your life in anyway you deem necessary! 2Thessalonians 3:2

Its not a pint of Guinness max, and I'm not dying.

budaatum:
What will happen to the evildoers max?


Why aren't JWs the salt of the earth?

Have they left yet?

MuttleyLaff:
I dislike when people upload audio without option to read, just like one site my missus too always gives me to listen to, and I literally going and am screaming what of those having hearing challenges but can read. FOLYKAZE, might like and enjoy the link

Prof Sophie Oluwole RIP would be smiling in her grave at the mention of Africana Philosophy

My eyes are not what they used to be so listening is the new book. You can pop it on phone and listen as you walk or pop it on stereo and listen in car as it's read to you. Besides, you'd never read this if it was a book. I'm taking my speaker to the park to get some sun today and blasting it starting all over again after getting to HAP21. This is so good I'm thinking of paying people to listen to the first five or I'll give you money back. Just ask!

This is 28mb everyone. Cheaper than youtube and worth a lot more.

LoJ:
It takes fools to Oppose Jesus and Buddha.

When you know both schools of thought, and when you read the gospels carefully, it is very obvious that Jesus has been influenced by Buddhist thought to a great extend. I don't know if this exposure to Buddhist thought came as a result of a trip to India (as suggested by some archeological evidence) or if it is from his initiation in Egypt or from his essenic training or some other source. Still, many of his sayings, teachings parables and event healings have a Buddhist/ hindouist background.

More like similarities, and not background, I'd say. They seem to be of different sources to me with Buddhism originating from Hinduism and Jesus from what's seeming like Egypt. I'm finding out quite a whole lot came out of there! Everyone had a brain!

History of Indian and Africana Philosophy HAP 01 - Something Old, Something New - Introducing Africana Philosophy

emilas1979:
Watch your head sir
They are coming for you

Nobody is coming anywhere for my head emilas. My head is way too heavy for anyone to come for and I don't do fear. Besides, the problem the op points out affects us all. If you look carefully, you'll see "the children in our very own communities who don’t go to school, who spent their entire lives in the wild, dragging cattle from Timbuktu to Calabar, had become possessed", except perhaps the cattle is missing, but even the cattle possessed kids are terrorising as far as Calabar even though I personally insist it is the locals in disguise. And we all know those he describes as "northern politicians are really all Nigerian politicians.

I do disagree somewhat with Hassan Stan-Labo on one single point though. Where he says "The north has to lock the tap. Mops wont do", I can't help wonder how he plans to go about it. Does he plan to neuter some and castrate others I had to think, or doesn't he see the mop is education. It made all you reading this have smaller families and without it we'd be bunny rabbits like our parents were, though in their defence they had to hedge for losses. I can bet a penny you'd all likely have fewer kids than siblings when you're done.

42.54% of the population of Nigeria is currently between the ages of 0-14. That's a lot of school kids with potential for lots of alimanjeris so if they cannot go to school in Taraba why should sense not be mopped into their heads in Calabar or anywhere else in Nigeria? The laws that say they must be in school ought to be enforced, is what I think. They'd have fewer kids if they were educated, as difficult as it might seem, and the benefits are immense.

A WAKE-UP CALL AND BLUNT TRUTH TO MY FELLOW NORTHERN BROTHERS.

Written by Hassan Stan-Labo

Bᴀɴᴅɪᴛʀʏ ᴀɴᴅ Bᴏᴋᴏ ʜᴀʀᴀᴍ : Tʜᴇ Nᴏʀᴛʜ sʟᴇᴘᴛ ғᴏʀ ᴛᴏᴏ ʟᴏɴɢ!

"The north must wake up now. It must not murder sleep.

The north saw nothing coming. Population was deemed strength. But it should have watched when others slowed down in breeding. It bred too many children and didn’t do much to care for them. They roamed the streets. Yet, it bred more. They forsook schools. And took to begging . Yet, it bred more. Those children, many of them, have gone feral. Now,the north cannot sleep. The north slept for too long.

Northern politicians lived in bubbles, in distant cities. Some governors literally ruled by ‘Wifi’. When they bothered to return to their state capitals, unemployed youths lined the streets to cheer them. In their narcissism , they said it was popularity. The naive jobless youths in their ignorance, considered them their own share of national big men.

So the northern politicians were safe and happy. They lived like lords, harvesting political rents. Their political estate was the large benighted population of the north whose votes made them national heroes. All they bothered about was winning elections and cornering privileges for their family and their friends.

The north is waking up. But it’s waking in fits and starts.

While it was asleep, corrupt politicians treated education as western adulteration of cherished conservative culture. The north lacked schools and teachers, and lacked hospitals and doctors and nurses. But their leaders couldn’t be bothered. The welfare of the poor was an abstract concept mouthed in campaign speeches.

Young doctors went for national youth service in the north and came back with tales of horror. Children and women died needlessly. Labour got obstructed and prolonged and the nearest hospital with a doctor was hundreds of kilometers away. Youth corps doctors were forced to do caesarean sections. We screamed when we shared the stories amongst ourselves those days.

The governors preferred playing emotional religious politics to building productive human capacity. So while some other parts of the country focused on education, some governors made sharia a project and built a large population of illiterate Almajiris.

And I think the north was pushed into deeper somnolence by tranquilizers like quota system and federal character. You can disagree with me. But I know competition would have awakened the north much earlier.

The north is rising. But it is still groggy.

The traditional institutions and the politicians underestimated the long term consequences of their fixation on electoral contests. Political power brought roads and more local government areas. The Federal Government built a refinery and sited federal institutions in some northern cities. But there was almost no attempt to educate the poor. Children roamed. Schools weren’t properly staffed. The three tiers of government left the smaller towns and rural areas in abject poverty and utter hopelessness. The private sector was absent. There was literally no man power for anything meaningful.

The politicians and retired soldiers cornered positions and oil wells. They rode in their big cars and flew in jets. They built big houses and sent their children to foreign lands for education. They let the ignorant poor to worship them and let them flourish in their ignorance. It all seemed peaceful at least. The rich in Kaduna , Kano and Abuja, played their polo. The poor children in Gamboru couldn’t get vaccines. They had to rely on Bill Gates and foreign charity to get, when they got. Poverty and disease and desertification battered and bruised them. The poor , illiterate and hopeless, in the slums of the big towns, in small towns and in the bushes in the hamlets found solace in religion. Radical preachers sneaked in and taught them comforting extremism.

The chickens are coming home to roost.

Banditry has taken over the parts of the north not ravaged by Boko Haram. Zamfara had once toyed with religious extremism. That former center of religious activism is now the devil’s workshop. Evil became so rife the former governor was ready to negotiate with demons who massacred and burnt whole villages. Children who didn’t go to school, who spent their entire lives in the wild, dragging cattle from Timbuktu to Calabar, had become possessed. They have forsaken religion and embraced the devil. And Zamfara is now thinking a mass literacy programme.

Kaduna, the center of the north has not been spared. Ethnic fault lines have been sharpened by frustration and hopelessness. Politicians had driven wedges between the poor to feather their political nests. Millions of unemployed youths are now finding guns and finding devilish impatience. Violence has mushroomed. And Kaduna is fast acquiring the character of Lebanon.

Our law enforcement agents are working hard. But they are overwhelmed. Law enforcement was designed to check and correct an exceptional few. And not to contain an epidemic of madness. From Benue to Taraba, from Katsina to Zamfara, it’s been violence after violence.

The north is waking up. I believe. But it has to find mental clarity, quickly. The north must institute a comprehensive population control measure. The north has to lock the tap. Mops wont do. The north lacks the resources to care for the children that it is currently producing on an industrial scale. It can’t abolish child malnutrition , Almajiri culture, high infant and maternal mortality until it puts a leash on its birthrate. Until the north checks its population growth rate it cannot check the wild fire of poverty that is ravaging its communities.

The north must wake up now.

Boko haram and rampant banditry have stabbed the north into wakefulness. But the north is waking up only in bits. The north is still sleepwalking.

The north left the tap running for too long. It is now flooded with problems that teeming illiteracy and joblessness create. The north must turn off the running tap first. The north must institute immediate population control. Yes, it will have to curb Almajiri by democratizing education. But it must shut the tap first. Without an effective and immediate population control policy , the north and the country is doomed.

It’s unfortunate it had to get to this. It’s unfortunate it had to take banditry for the north to think mass literacy and abolition of almajiri culture. Yobe has no existing factory. A bulk of the population of the Northeast lives in IDP camps. The future looks bleak . And there is no sense of urgency yet.

Northern billionaires must think industrialization of the north. It must be intentional. The potentials abound. There is a strong youthful population. They can’t wait for Bill Gates and Jimmy Carter.

The north must wake up now. It must not murder sleep again.

EmperorHarry:
Technically that would be you jnr but I still don't get it

I'll mail you.

jnr is GodWrites lol!

StrikeBack:
Jesusjnr.

Get your acts together and get a job

Maximus69:
Jehovah's Witnesses aren't thinking of going to live in heaven Ma, 99.9% of Jehovah's Witnesses globally have the hope of living forever in Paradise on earth when all evildoers are no more! Psalms 37:7-11, Proverbs 2:20-22, Isaiah 35:6,65:21-23, Matthew 5:5

What will happen to the evildoers max?

Maximus69:
It's the misinformed Churchgoers that are thinking of going to live in heaven without knowing what exactly is happening there, as for Jehovah's Witnesses we know that humans weren't created for heavenly life, God made the heaven for himself and his spirit sons! Psalms 115:16

Sounds life tooth fairy and father christmas lol.

Why aren't JWs the salt of the earth?

JeromeBlack:
My guy, who has time to read the epistle you posted

Those whom it concerns of course.

People should fire themselves if Malians are coming to their state and stealing the jobs the indigenes should be doing!

true2god:
Can you read what you just spend over 10mins to compose and type and see how irrational it is, all in a bid to defend a blind argument? At times it is better to ignore instead of creating an irrational rebuttal.

Sometimes, instead of just admitting ones own ignorance and lack of understanding some will completely fail to take a dose of their own medicine and "ignore" what is way beyond their ability to comprehend and will claim it is others who are irrational.

Its a pity tru2. Thankfully, the person whom it is a response to has way more information on what has been an ongoing conversation over many threads and is not ignorant like you are.

dollynnn:
more reason why we need a new,people -drawn constitution

You need people who can draw one, first.

Pizza! Yummy. Here's one I made earlier.

The single pathology that has held Nigeria down for decades is the ignorance of it's people. It is the single reason that we have the constitution that we have, one designed by we the people within our very own limitations.

The Panacea To Nigeria's Stunted Growth is an increase in knowledge and it's use. With knowledge and an understanding of its use even our constitution would be much better if need be, or we'd adhere to it better.

Yet, scholarship, which I'd presume to mean learning, which is what dispels ignorance, and about God, is what seems to be promoted here.

How would you reconcile the two op? Can one be ignorant and Walk with God?

Abdulgaffar22, my own dispute with you was your sin of [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+18%3A9-14&version=NLT]hubris[/url]. Is it not written that Among His signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth and the diversity of your languages and your colors. Verily, in that are signs for people of knowledge. Surat al-Rum 30:22

And yet here you are professing to worship Allah and yet joining in doing that which Allah abhors! Or did you think you would not be known by thy fruits? How can you say to another, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?

Verily, the greatest liar among people is a man who insults another man by disparaging their entire tribe (or religion, or race etc).
Sunan Ibn Mājah 3761

You might want to consider the following:

Islam is against racism and prejudice!

tintingz:
Lol.

It seems you didn't get my premises well.

As for run is run, it's not about maybe one should run fast or slow but changing the statement into another thing, like saying "oh believers run" in a verse and they interpret to "oh believers increase in your faith or to think fast." That is what I meant by interpretations.

Context, and individual understanding, is what determines meaning. In particular contexts, "oh believers run" may mean "oh believers increase in your faith and think fast." You know this tingz. It's the only reason you'd even suggest it. I'm absolutely certain we'd argue if anyone interpreted it as "oh believers sit on your ass and refuse to use your brain". It's all about intention see. For scriptural interpretation to be right it has to abide by certain principles.

Let me try out an interpretation on you. Genesis 1:28 reads:

God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

Pretty straightforward you'd say. Now try this: Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground. And God will bless you.

Would you argue that my interpretation is not true or that that is precisely not how things actually work? Is it not true that if one does not "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground." No God will bless one? If you think not, you try it and see. It's however not how many see it though, with most thinking they can sit on their ass and feed on manna.

Let's try another more controversial one.

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

One would think eating the fruit of a tree of knowledge of good and evil ought to make one know what good and evil tastes like and help one know the difference between the two. But here is God allegedly stating that if you remain ignorant you will live. Imagine if I claimed that's not God speaking and what's happened here is:

A group among them have twisted their tongues with the book, that you may suppose it to be from the book. But it is not from the book. And they say, “It is from God,” though it is not from God. And they knowingly speak a lie against God. Sura 3:78

After all, we go on to read that they did not certainly die, and "when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

Now tell, would you not claim I am advocating the worship of a snake?

Yet, hear Jesus himself stating:

"Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves. John 14:11

Essentially, if you can't believe what you read at least do not deny the evidence that is before your eyes.

So, let's check the evidence. Did Adam and Eve's eyes not open when they ate of the fruit of a tree of knowledge of good and evil so they saw they were naked? Did they die?

Now imagine I twist the meaning of words to such an extent to imply that Adam and Eve's eyes did not open and they died when they ate of the fruit of a tree of knowledge of good and evil, would I not be lying, or at the very least, be twisting God into my own ignorant understanding? Yet I bet you that's the understanding many get from the text, which if you doubt can be tested by posting this in the Christian section and watch how many stone me.

And yet here is Jesus parroting Satan and [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+82%3A6&version=KJV]Psalm 82:6[/url] saying:

is it not [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+10%3A34-38&version=NIV;KJV]written in your law[/url], I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Sounds like what a snake said to me. Or is there no similarity between the above and "when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

Or would one argue that one can be like God if one does not know what good and evil tastes like? Jesus sure went about opening [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+20%3A29-34%2CMark+10%3A46-52%2CLuke+18%3A35-43&version=NIV]eyes[/url] and teaching the difference between good and evil!

I've repeatedly pointed out to you, God did not write the Quran. The Angel Gabriel told the Prophet Mohammad who could not write who then recited it to his followers who eventually wrote it down on camel bones. You're going to have to forgive me for assuming a snake who could meddle with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden would not have meddled with whatever we may understand to be the Word of God. For in truth, that which we call God's Word is no better than mere mud until one breaths the breathe of understanding in to it. It is for us therefore to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil so we can determine the difference between the two or our understanding would be wonky to say the least and we remain stupid and ignorant and most certainly die!

As to what the fruit of a tree of knowledge of good and evil might be, I just love how Christ put it, or rather, my own interpretation of how Christ put [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+4%3A4&version=KJV]it[/url]:

Thou shalt not just accept one single view that some people give of things or one will be malnourished!

It's why we have brains tingz. And it's why I discuss with you too. For in all honesty, "use your brain" is what you are asking people to do in just about every post of yours that I've read and its why most treat you as we treat Jesus Christ. Except you yourself are not as smart in your doings thank God. Or we would have crucified you by now and made you god tingz!

3Ceagle:
Buhari can never be half of the nationalism in Trump. Trump is all for America and Americans, can you say Nigeria is for Nigerians. Who is a Nigerian, does it also include herders from west Africa? I expect more from a leader.

Try expecting more from yourself. You're going to have to unless you wish to remain a moaner all your life.

HeyCorleone:
How tho'? How does an average Joe make his country better without basic opportunities? No security, power, food, no access to basic things without connection. How does someone lead a change?

There was a picture posted recently of refuse on a Nigerian street and someone blamed the government and I shook my head and agreed with them but reminded them that we the people living in that same filth watching our very own children playing in it are the government. But I guess this isn't the Nigerian way of thinking. Our way of thought is a Messiah will be sent from God to clean up our streets so God forbid we clean our streets ourselves.

We are collectively irresponsible, and that's our problem numero uno! It makes us selfish such that our individual salvation is our sole goal and no one cares for their neighbours. Pity is one's neighbour is oneself but we don't see that way. If we take collective responsibility we would make a difference in our own communities. But I waffle. Your question was how, and to answer I'd going to go Jesus on you, but please know this applies to all.

Get 12 people together and discuss amongst yourselves how to make a change in your community with the collective strength you have. You may only accomplish the cleaning of filth off one single street, but from tiny acorn seeds doth huge oak trees grow.

As to leading, "humble thyself and be exalted".

P.s. I've written this knowing I must do much better so would set my goal a thread and hola at you when. But if you would, try the Gospel of Luke without the believe junk, as in read it rationally and not as a religious text, and you might understand how change is made by one single individual.

porka:
Very good.

They should include asset seizure and forfeiture to tne government of the United States.

The new government of PM Boris Johnson in Britain should also take decisive actions against these and others - including the entire INEC leadership and some military personnel.

The ICC should be pressured to start immediate actions on those who murdered Nigerians who were exercising their right to participate in elections.

£2m and UK will make you citizen!

Sai bubu does a Trump! If you no like Naija go to your country or get off your lazy asses and make it better!

MrPresident1:
Are you from America?

Are you from America?