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basilico:
So how is Trump a racist. And I qualified my statement that when a progressive does not like he bands you a racist .

How could you possibly be asking me that question? Did you miss me saying, "Not that I'm claiming Trump is racist, mind" ?

Proverbs 20 Amplified Bible (AMP)
On Life and Conduct
20 Wine is a mocker, strong drink a riotous brawler;
And whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise.
2
The terror of a king is like the roaring of a lion;
Whoever provokes him to anger forfeits his own life.
3
It is an honor for a man to keep away from strife [by handling situations with thoughtful foresight],
But any fool will [start a] quarrel [without regard for the consequences].
4
The lazy man does not plow when the winter [planting] season arrives;
So he begs at the [next] harvest and has nothing [to reap].
5
A plan (motive, wise counsel) in the heart of a man is like water in a deep well,
But a man of understanding draws it out.
6
Many a man proclaims his own loyalty and goodness,
But who can find a faithful and trustworthy man?
7
The righteous man who walks in integrity and lives life in accord with his [godly] beliefs—
How blessed [happy and spiritually secure] are his children after him [who have his example to follow].
8
A [discerning] king who sits on the throne of judgment
Sifts all evil [like chaff] with his eyes [and cannot be easily fooled].
9
Who can say, “I have cleansed my heart,
I am pure from my sin?”
10
Differing weights [one for buying and another for selling] and differing measures,
Both of them are detestable and offensive to the Lord.
11
Even a boy is known and distinguished by his acts,
Whether his conduct is pure and right.
12
The hearing ear and the seeing eye,
The [omnipotent] Lord has made both of them.
13
Do not love [excessive] sleep, or you will become poor;
Open your eyes [so that you can do your work] and you will be satisfied with bread.
14
“It is [almost] worthless, it is [almost] worthless,” says the buyer [as he negotiates the price];
But when he goes his way, then he boasts [about his bargain].
15
There is gold, and an abundance of pearls,
But the lips of knowledge are a vessel of preciousness [the most precious of all].
16
[The judge tells the creditor], “Take the clothes of one who is surety for a stranger;
And hold him in pledge [when he guarantees a loan] for foreigners.”
17
Food gained by deceit is sweet to a man,
But afterward his mouth will be filled with gravel [just as sin may be sweet at first, but later its consequences bring despair].
18
Plans are established by counsel;
So make war [only] with wise guidance.
19
He who goes about as a gossip reveals secrets;
Therefore do not associate with a gossip [who talks freely or flatters].
20
Whoever curses his father or his mother,
His lamp [of life] will be extinguished in time of darkness.
21
An inheritance hastily gained [by greedy, unjust means] at the beginning
Will not be blessed in the end.
22
Do not say, “I will repay evil”;
Wait [expectantly] for the Lord, and He will rescue and save you.
23
Differing weights are detestable and offensive to the Lord,
And fraudulent scales are not good.
24
Man’s steps are ordered and ordained by the Lord.
How then can a man [fully] understand his way?
25
It is a trap for a man to [[a]speak a vow of consecration and] say rashly, “It is holy!”
And [not until] afterward consider [whether he can fulfill it].
26
A wise king sifts out the wicked [from among the good]
And drives the [threshing] wheel over them [to separate the chaff from the grain].
27
The [b]spirit (conscience) of man is the lamp of the Lord,
Searching and examining all the innermost parts of his being.
28
Loyalty and mercy, truth and faithfulness, protect the king,
And he upholds his throne by lovingkindness.
29
The glory of young men is their [physical] strength,
And the honor of aged men is their gray head [representing wisdom and experience].
30
Blows that wound cleanse away evil,
And strokes reach to the innermost parts.

basilico:
I've not seen a racist who has been pictured with successful black people like Mike Tyson whose bouts were held at Trump casinos.
I have not seen a racist who was hosted by Oprah Winfreymany times.
I have not seen a racist who has a photo shoot with Oprah, Tyson, black people.
I have not seen a racist who Kanye West supports.
When an Alinsky type liberal progressive like leftist does not like you instantly become a racist.

Then you been walking around with your eyes closed or you're just so easily fooled by the "I got black friends so can't be a racist". Not that I'm claiming Trump is racist, mind.

TheShopKeeper:
The 7 Most Bewildering Moments From Trump’s CPAC Speech

How dare you give me so much eyeache?
Or rather, thanks!

Chidorx60:
My post was never a show inteligence just facts that I discovered from research.
Guy you are very funny,

You need to do some more research. The gaps in your op are glaring.

OLAADEGBU:
Are you saying that all that have been made righteous by faith can no longer be made unrighteous whatever sin they indulge themself in afterwards?

Was going to ask the same question. It kind of contradicts the Lord Lordists who would gnash their teeth.

UyiIredia:
The ghost of Mivart still bedevils Darwin. He can very well explain the survival of the fittest but not the arrival of the fittest.

Do you know St. George Jackson Mivart, Ph.D., M.D., F.R.S., V.P.Z.S.,F.Z.S. was at first buried on unconsecrated land before his friends pleaded insanity on his behalf and he was reburied?

Full text of "The Roman Catholic Church and Dr. St. George Mivart"

No one wins. Not the atheist nor the theist. For in truth we are the people of Babel suffering from confusio linguarum. (It's at this point that the theists should mutter, "Come Jesus. Come soon", but in the past have pitiably resorted to stupidity. May the Holy Spirit restrain them).

Fools. That is what atheists are, for they abandon entirely the Power of God. While the theist refuses to commit the sin of Adam and Eve and become naked, the atheist plucks off the fruit and eats and yet dangles about naked, the eating - nay! gorging, on the fruits of trees of knowledge of good and evil nourishes them not. If it did, they would understand that they argue with those who read only bread and are undernourished unlike them.

Fools. And even moreso in fact, are the theists, their measure being the Lord God Almighty. Is it a lie that the Peaceful are Blessed? Is it not by your fruit that you are known? Yet one finds many of God who would claim to have Jesusglasses and wear them yet be blinded to the forest in their own eyes. Slap them, and instantly would they slap back twice as hard and on both your cheeks - their other cheek they would not turn. Some even slap first and claim they do so in the name of God! They claim to have gone to the Jesustician to get Jesusglasses so they can see, but more blind do they become for they think they see in Spirit but they see not at all.

No, no one wins when people suffer from confusio linguarum except the Lord of Babel. If jesusj.nr had proposed this as the imperfect Word of God in the beginning and prior to the arrival of Jesus the Christ I would have understood, though I would insist that the Word of God is perfect, it is we humans who lack understanding.

Imagine "the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech". Does that not sound like a blissful world where the lion and lambs live in peace? They'd even learn to subdue the earth and "make brick, and burn them throughly and had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter". So what do they do? They decide to "build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth".

Say we decided such a thing in a city in our homeland. The traffic would have to flow well, water run to everyone's home, electricity twenty four seven, no one starving no one homeless no one stupid because we are busy building a Godly City. Then, "the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which we children of humans built. And the LORD said, "Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech."

What? You did not say, "What the fuq God?" You should! Peaceful people, all "is one", getting along nicely, building something together, then some God decides to infect them with confusio linguarum so they are restrained. Is it not the Spirit of God that is within them that this text is telling us God decided to restrain? God will make us not miss the guises of satan and bow down and worship evil! Yea, I insist that it is not the Word of God that is imperfect, but the understanding of we humans, both theists and atheists!

No one wins when people refuse to try to understand what the other is saying. No one wins when the intention of your words are not to be understood and to inform and to educate, but to be believed. In fact, the devil alone wins when people are infected with confusio linguarum and there is division between atheists and theists. You could easily tell this by noting how confounded and scattered and fruitless and unBabelic we are upon face of all the earth.

So, Come Jesus, come now and turn us into perfected salt so that we will be unconfounded and unscattered and fruitful and Babelic so we may build towers and win to the Glory of the Lord God Almighty.

The Spirit within you (be it theist or atheistic) is your guide in understanding.

P.s. Op, I hate "us or them threads". This one though, somehow!? Thanks very much for it.

Everyone else. The temptation will overcome you such that you assume to perfectly understand what you just read without feeling the need to have specific bits of its imperfection explained to you. My advice is, resist temptation and request clarification first. You will be blessing buda.

Proverbs 19 Amplified Bible (AMP)
On Life and Conduct
19 Better is a poor man who walks in his integrity
Than a [rich] man who is twisted in his speech and is a [shortsighted] fool.
2
Also it is not good for a person to be without knowledge,
And he who hurries with his feet [acting impulsively and proceeding without caution or analyzing the consequences] sins (misses the mark).
3
The foolishness of man undermines his way [ruining whatever he undertakes];
Then his heart is resentful and rages against the Lord [for, being a fool, he blames the Lord instead of himself].
4
Wealth makes many friends,
But a poor man is separated from his friend.
5
A false witness will not go unpunished,
And he who breathes out lies will not escape.
6
Many will seek the favor of a generous and noble man,
And everyone is a friend to him who gives gifts.
7
All the brothers of a poor man hate him;
How much more do his friends abandon him!
He pursues them with words, but they are gone.
8
He who gains wisdom and good sense loves (preserves) his own soul;
He who keeps understanding will find good and prosper.
9
A false witness will not go unpunished,
And he who breathes lies will perish.
10
Luxury is not fitting for a fool;
Much less for a slave to rule over princes.
11
Good sense and discretion make a man slow to anger,
And it is his honor and glory to overlook a transgression or an offense [without seeking revenge and harboring resentment].
12
The king’s wrath terrifies like the roaring of a lion,
But his favor is as [refreshing and nourishing as] dew on the grass.
13
A foolish (ungodly) son is destruction to his father,
And the contentions of a [quarrelsome] wife are like a constant dripping [of water].
14
House and wealth are the inheritance from fathers,
But a wise, understanding, and sensible wife is [a gift and blessing] from the Lord.
15
Laziness casts one into a deep sleep [unmindful of lost opportunity],
And the idle person will suffer hunger.
16
He who keeps and obeys the commandment [of the Lord] keeps (guards) his own life,
But he who is careless of his ways and conduct will die.
17
He who is gracious and lends a hand to the poor lends to the Lord,
And the Lord will repay him for his good deed.
18
Discipline and teach your son while there is hope,
And do not [indulge your anger or resentment by imposing inappropriate punishment nor] desire his destruction.
19
A man of great anger will bear the penalty [for his quick temper and lack of self-control];
For if you rescue him [and do not let him learn from the consequences of his action], you will only have to rescue him over and over again.
20
Listen to counsel, receive instruction, and accept correction,
That you may be wise in the time to come.
21
Many plans are in a man’s mind,
But it is the Lord’s purpose for him that will stand (be carried out).
22
That which is desirable in a man is his loyalty and unfailing love,
But it is better to be a poor man than a [wealthy] liar.
23
The fear of the Lord leads to life,
So that one may sleep satisfied, untouched by evil.
24
The lazy man buries his hand in the [food] dish,
But will not even bring it to his mouth again.
25
Strike a scoffer [for refusing to learn], and the naive may [be warned and] become prudent;
Reprimand one who has understanding and a teachable spirit, and he will gain knowledge and insight.
26
He who assaults his father and chases away his mother
Is a son who brings shame and disgrace.
27
Cease listening, my son, to instruction and discipline
And you will stray from the words of knowledge.
28
A wicked and worthless witness mocks justice,
And the mouth of the wicked spreads iniquity.
29
Judgments are prepared for scoffers,
And beatings for the backs of [thickheaded] fools.

If only buda were perfect like you are, jesusjnr.

jesusjnr:
One thing I've clearly gotten from you thus far is that the level you intend to walk with God is that which buda will have a say in and determine a few things herself.

For that's the reason that in spite of you knowing what Jesus said concerning perfection, you would yet hold on to what you want to believe.

That's clearly what distinguishes us, for at the level of my walk with God, I can't afford be like buda, for if I could, then I wouldn't be a true disciple of Jesus.

For saying of Jesus is sacrosanct to jesusjnr, therefore whatsoever Jesus says, jesusjnr does it!

And that's final, for whatever I think about it don't matter, for it's not my own will but God's Will be done.

No wonder the emphasis of an adult humbling herself and becoming as a little child, for her to be able to enter into the Kingdom of God.

For just as it is with little children having blind trust in their parents to be able to catch them when they are falling from a high place, it requires such a trust in God for anyone to be able enter into His Kingdom.

For that's was how I was able to enter into the Kingdom of God, and hence the distinction of my results and fruits in Nairaland thus far.

And for anyone to be able to understand my language, the person must follow suit otherwise it would only be a case of disconnection and disagreement.

So I perfectly understand where you're coming from buda, and why we can hardly agree to this extent.

Thank you Jesus for accepting imperfect buda just the way buda is. Forgive me Lord for I shall always be a sinner.

vaxx:
miss you budha. how is life at your end?.

check this below

Too good! Missed you. Where you been?

I left my laughing buddha in the Orolu Kingdom. Considering I almost died, I'd not trust it brings goodluck. Buddha never said such things would, and that particular buddha is the glutton buddha. I kept mine to remind me to not get fat.

jesusjnr:
Yeah! I already went back there!

Remember "thunder fire Jesus"! Yeah, your attitude after your said conversion, made me go back there because i already knew by such a reaction then, that it was an expression of your disapproval for my thread "the truth about atheism", even long before you confirmed it by your saying that it irritated you at the time.

For in spite of your denial of that truth, of all time that was the first time that such a reaction had come out from you, and I was also able to trail the footprints of your irritation to one of your threads that had to do with favorite heretics, and so it wasn't farfetched that that was the first time that Jesus name happened to be brought up by you as one of your favorite heretic, with the conclusion that you would have stoned Him yourself had you been there.

So what does that make of the trustworthiness of your words(persistent denial)?

Hence when you began to get back to me, as you made it seem, with all your unvented irritations and fury that you'd held back all these while, concerning not just that thread but others as such with the opportunity my consequent welcoming and opening up to you, seemed to avail you, it cast my mind back to "thunder fire Jesus"!

And i'm yet seeing this as an attempt to yet get back at me, but it's all good for if it be that it's because I had welcomed you with genuine intentions that you're repaying me with such evil, then it's not your fault.

Two people under skirt. Only two. One say buda 'scratchy face'.

Disagreeing with a person is not "get back at you". Besides, you've done me no harm for me to get back at you. And not turning the other cheek is a go to hell sin.

jesusjnr:
No!

Only Jesus could die for the sins of mankind, no one else!

If no man else could be perfect, then Jesus would not have said, "Be ye perfect, as your Father in heaven is perfect!"

It's possible with God.

There is one thing I know absolutely certainly. It is that the death of 100 Jesuses will not make buda perfect in a billion years.

Thank you Lord for accepting me in the imperfect way that I am and will very likely always forever remain.

jesusjnr:
Or maybe I should go back to similar things that had to do with you, dig them up and like them. Smh.

People do, often. In fact, UyiIredia, thank you very much. I appreciate the time you took to consider liking some of my past posts recently and much more the opportunity you took to improve me. By liking them, you made me go back and reread them which helped me reflect which made me evolve and grow.

Jnr, if you can please do what you say above, I buda will willingly pay for your service if you request that I do. I will endeavour to continue to interest you since the benefit is entire all mine.

jesusjnr:
Only you can do, what no man can do, Jesus!

Is that perhaps because no human is perfect?

amyblessed:
Zither and jesusjnr. Please I think we should end all these accusations and counter accusations. The unbelievers are watching, and as the Bible says, we are a living epistle, they read our character just like you read the Bible.
Let no one seek anyone's approval. If you are truly a Christian and you are sure you are working for God, forget about man's approval of you but instead seek to be approved of God. Once you are approved of Him, forget about anybody's approval because your reward is not tied to any man's approval, but God's.
Only God knows those that are truly His, and He's the one to judge, not man. So let's stop judging one another here. Let's act like the brethren we are.
If any of us writes anything that is inconsistent with the Word of God, and you point it out and he or she refuses to be corrected. That is no longer your business. But that should not make us enemies, or make us taint or destroy each other's image, otherwise, what are we teaching the world watching us?

Like!

Goldenventures:
The story in genesis was not designed to teach history and facts. It is an allegory meant to convey mystical / spiritual truths.

The garden of eden is all about the constitution of man from the outer to the inner man.

Till date, even the African secret societies in our villages teach truths to their adepts using symbols and stories.

Thanks for this. Maybe if Akin1212 would take note and stop taking it as historical fact he might comprehend what I've said.

Proverbs 18 Amplified Bible (AMP)
Contrast the Upright and the Wicked
18 He who [willfully] separates himself [from God and man] seeks his own desire,
He quarrels against all sound wisdom.
2
A [closed-minded] fool does not delight in understanding,
But only in revealing his personal opinions [unwittingly displaying his self-indulgence and his stupidity].
3
When the wicked man comes [to the depth of evil], contempt [of all that is pure and good] also comes,
And with inner baseness (dishonor) comes outer shame (scorn).
4
The words of a man’s mouth are like deep waters [copious and difficult to fathom];
The fountain of [mature, godly] wisdom is like a bubbling stream [sparkling, fresh, pure, and life-giving].
5
To show respect to the wicked person is not good,
Nor to push aside and deprive the righteous of justice.
6
A fool’s lips bring contention and strife,
And his mouth invites a beating.
7
A fool’s mouth is his ruin,
And his lips are the snare of his soul.
8
The words of a whisperer (gossip) are like dainty morsels [to be greedily eaten];
They go down into the innermost chambers of the body [to be remembered and mused upon].
9
He who is careless in his work
Is a brother to him who destroys.
10
The name of the Lord is a strong tower;
The righteous runs to it and is safe and set on high [far above evil].
11
The rich man’s wealth is his strong city,
And like a high wall [of protection] in his own imagination and conceit.
12
Before disaster the heart of a man is haughty and filled with self-importance,
But humility comes before honor.
13
He who answers before he hears [the facts]—
It is folly and shame to him.
14
The spirit of a man sustains him in sickness,
But as for a broken spirit, who can bear it?
15
The mind of the prudent [always] acquires knowledge,
And the ear of the wise [always] seeks knowledge.
16
A man’s gift [given in love or courtesy] makes room for him
And brings him before great men.
17
The first one to plead his case seems right,
Until another comes and cross-examines him.
18
[a]To cast lots puts an end to quarrels
And decides between powerful contenders.
19
A brother offended is harder to win over than a fortified city,
And contentions [separating families] are like the bars of a castle.
20
A man’s stomach will be satisfied with the fruit of his mouth;
He will be satisfied with the consequence of his words.
21
Death and life are in the power of the tongue,
And those who love it and indulge it will eat its fruit and bear the consequences of their words.
22
He who finds a [[b]true and faithful] wife finds a good thing
And obtains favor and approval from the Lord.
23
The poor man pleads,
But the rich man answers roughly.
24
The man of too many friends [chosen indiscriminately] will be broken in pieces and come to ruin,
But there is a [true, loving] friend who [is reliable and] sticks closer than a brother.

Temple1288:
The policies won't even cross the Senate.

But one that says I can rip out your fetus the hour before you give birth can cross the Senate? You better wise up. We need some meat to go with your mom's 'fufu' and farming pregnant women would more than provide.

Zanas:
They should have terminated you at birth if the aim is to keep the number of fools down, you are full of nonsense

I must have passed the "are you a fool" test at birth, obviously.

Anduku:
[s]It's like they inject you liberals with some kind of evil serum for you to be this sadistic. just take a look at the ridiculous things you just wrote up there. How can a normal human being think like this? SMH[/s]

Modified: on a second reading and after going through your earlier posts, I believe you were just being sarcastic, if that is the case, please accept my sincere apologies

Anduku I warn you very very seriously. Do not spoil my fun please with your very high intelligence!

But on a serious note, while so called liberals are for abortion, nobody is planning to extricate anyone's foetus on the day before the baby is due. But if someone did plan to, I would personally be condemning the foetus carrier or wonder why, instead of throwing the "they are just evil" mantra stupidly around, as some are appearing to do.

jesusjnr:
But the quality of the fruits remains the same.

The quality of everyone's fruit cannot be the same since some know not what they do.

jesusjnr:
Why not also quote it and you would see why I chose to stick with the king James version.

Stop needlessly testing my patience! Nothing stops you quoting it yourself when you respond.

jesusjnr:
Now you deliberately contradicted Jesus saying, by your saying that God is not after anyone's perfection, so do I need to say anything more here?

Jesus showed that that was the essence of Him the perfect Word of God, being made flesh was for man to become perfect as God in heaven is.

And maybe you could afford to say the otherwise of the saying of Jesus, but being His disciple I must say in consonance with His saying that there's nothing that would bring God as much glory, than a descendant of sinful and Imperfect Adam, becoming perfect as God is.

At the beginning of that chapter, it says: "His disciples came to him, and he began to teach them." Could you tell me which of Jesus disciples came close to perfection?

Humans are just not perfect by design. God could have made us perfect on creation, but it seems God chose not to, and I'm not claiming we cannot be perfected through Christ. The issue with perfection is that some assume they are more perfect than others just as you have alluded with your "but being His disciple I must".

The point however is not whether human perfection would please God or not, nor is it about the perfection of humans, but about the perfection of the Word of a perfect God from the very beginning though ever imperfect human has always misunderstood it. If perfected human beings were the only ones allowed into the KoG, there'd be a tiny few in heaven. Hence Grace, as they say.

obixcel:
Little did we know that you were the devil in our midst. Be gone!!

As if you had the power, lol.

jesusjnr:
I don't consider that saying to be a genuine translation of the gospel of Jesus, so please if i'm going to be involved in this, you'd have to use a version that's in consonance with the king James version of the Bible, and not one that has been twisted and turned to favor one's own inclination and beliefs.

If not no deal!

[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19%3A16-24&version=KJV]Matthew 19:16-24 King James Version (KJV)[/url]

"On your thread". On this Nairaland?

Make me laugh please.

jesusjnr:
The rich young man was not perfect because the standard of the law and the prophets even the Word of God which he kept was not perfect, and hence could not make him perfect.

The other of the rich men said to him "Master, what good thing shall I do and live?" He said to him "Man, perform the law and the prophets." He answered him "I have performed them." He said to him "Go, sell all that thou hast and divide it to the poor, and come, follow me." But the rich man began to scratch his head, and it pleased him not. And the Lord said to him "How can you say 'I have performed the law and the prophets'? seeing that it is written in the law 'Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself,' and look, many of your brothers, sons of Abraham, are clad with dung, dying for hunger, and your house is full of much goods, and there goes out therefrom nought at all unto them." And he turned and said to Simon his disciple, sitting by him, "Simon, son of John, it is easier for a camel to enter through the eye of a needle than a rich man into the kingdom of the heavens."

Can you see in the text above where it was perfect then and no more perfect when Jesus said it?

Have you read what the showerhead said to buda? Now that I think of it, it's like a burning bush and Balaam's ass maybe.

God is not after anyone's perfection. And I say that despite Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Come, just the way you are, is part of a hymn that makes the same claim, and is in fact the entire embodiment of "by grace, and not by your fruits" (though, the importance of works should never be glossed over).

God's Word was perfect in the beginning when God said, "Let there be", and is in fact what is meant by "and there was". It has always been perfect and will always be perfect, even down to Paul adding his bits to it and some corrupt people changing some meanings. We imperfect human beings will continue to strive to understand it with out imperfect minds. It is how we become perfected.

As to the standard being the same, I read somewhere that to whom more is given, more is expected. I think its in one of the holy books I read.

jesusjnr:
The rich young man was not perfect because the standard of the law and the prophets even the Word of God which he kept was not perfect, and hence could not make him perfect.

For a person can only become as good as the standard of the Word of God which he keeps, and hence if he had kept the Words of Jesus, the perfect Word of God, he would have become perfect, but he didn't and so he remained at the level of the Word of God which he kept which was imperfect.

And that imperfect level of the Word of God is not enough to make anyone enter into the kingdom of God, for it must be the perfect level, which Jesus the Word of God is, and hence He must be obeyed for anyone to be able to be perfect and hence gain entry into the kingdom of God.

For He's the only perfect way!

And the standard is the same for everyone!

Well, I think the rich man did not follow the perfected Word of God which began at the very first "and it was good" in Genesis 1.

God does astounding quality control and therefore cannot create imperfection, in my opinion.