₦airaland Forum

Dhumancanvas:
You i don't even know what to do with you lol.
Mystery is something unknown. If you wanna say God is a mystery then yes I agree. But you probably won't stop there. You'd go on to give details about this mystery as if you knew what you were talking about and you'd say this mystery created the universe which amounts to 'i don't know how the universe was created' but once again you'd say it as if you knew what you were talking about.

"It's a mystery but I can explain it to you.
Just believe me!"

shadeyinka:
It's a prove of design

In design we Reuse, adapt and modify existing templates to form new ones. In creative activities we don't reinvent every time do we?

Prove of evolution of design, surely.

shadeyinka:
Your argument is like saying:
All earth vehicles (from bicycles to trailers and other articulated vehicles) are anatomically similar hence a proof of evolution and not design!

But it is proof of evolution. Below is an example of the evolution of the S-Class.

johnydon22:
No more physically qualitative than chance.

I wonder!

johnydon22:
I think for truth to make sense it has to be absolute.

A non-absolute truth by definition cannot be true.

Some years back most people believed the earth was flat - this doesn't mean it is true that the earth is flat.

I also do not like absolutes but truth as a concept must be absolute or it is not truth.

So, an idea, or concept (the earth is not flat) can be an absolute truth even though humans think it's flat.

Absolute truth is therefore not subject to opinions?

Neither had I until this!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uMjLKNf4ic

What you make of the concept of "absolute truth"?

I know salt is getting very bad press, but would you enjoy living in a place that lacks the salt of the earth?

“The rigid low-sodium diet is insipid, unappetising, monotonous, unacceptable, and intolerable. To stay on it requires the asceticism of a religious zealot.”

Lucasbalo:
You are spot on about Steve King. He's been an avowed racist for 18 years in the Congress and RepubliKKKans never care about his racism and bigotry. He's still in Congress as we speak and the RepubliKKKans wouldn't even censure him. Leave it to the Orange pig idol worshippers on Nairaland to be foamibg in the mouth about Omar. if Hitler was alive, he would be a card carrying member of the Republikkkans Party just like the Chief Racist in the White House is.

MAGA

LordReed:
Maybe special within the ambit of feats men are capable of but nothing supernatural or spiritual.

So, men with at least the ability to write?

Are these men who saw God?

LordReed:
Men

Men with special powers - Angel Gabriel, "god's command or directive", "divine imperative"?

I was going to add 'ability to write' as a special power, and 'ability to recall', but figured I should ask first if they could be considered "special powers", or abilities, at least.

obixcel:
To a Demonrat, being a Republican is a reason for impeachment and prison.
“To conquer a nation, first disarm its citizens.”
“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”
The art of leadership... consists in consolidating the attention of the people against a single adversary and taking care that nothing will split up that attention.
These are quotes by Hitler, and is exactly what the liberals are doing to Trump and America.

Sounds like a description of what Trump’s doing, to me, lying about almost everything and consolidating your attention on a single adversary.

You got any more Hitler quotes to see if they fit too?

LordReed:
I don't believe any such thing as spirits or angels exist so no.

So, let's go back a bit then. Who wrote the Bible?

[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+8%3A22-25&version=NIV]Luke 8:22-25[/url]

Inspired by ochibuogwu5


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLy8ksqGf9w

In Christ Alone
By Stuart Townend

In Christ alone my hope is found,
He is my light, my strength, my song
This Cornerstone, this solid Ground
Firm through the fiercest drought and storm.
What heights of love, what depths of peace
When fears are stilled, when strivings cease
My Comforter, my All in All
Here in the love of Christ I stand.

In Christ alone! - who took on flesh,
Fullness of God in helpless babe.
This gift of love and righteousness,
Scorned by the ones He came to save
Till on that cross as Jesus died,
The wrath of God was satisfied
For every sin on Him was laid
Here in the death of Christ I live.

There in the ground His body lay,
Light of the world by darkness slain:
Then bursting forth in glorious day
Up from the grave He rose again
And as He stands in victory
Sin's curse has lost its grip on me,
For I am His and He is mine
Bought with the precious blood of Christ

No guilt in life, no fear in death,
This is the power of Christ in me
From life's first cry to final breath,
Jesus commands my destiny
No power of hell, no scheme of man,
Can ever pluck me from His hand
Till He returns or calls me home
Here in the power of Christ I'll stand.

Proverbs 24 Amplified Bible (AMP)
Precepts and Warnings
24 Do not be envious of evil men,
Nor desire to be with them;
2
For their minds plot violence,
And their lips talk of trouble [for the innocent].

3
Through [skillful and godly] wisdom a house [a life, a home, a family] is built,
And by understanding it is established [on a sound and good foundation],
4
And by knowledge its rooms are filled
With all precious and pleasant riches.

5
A wise man is strong,
And a man of knowledge strengthens his power;
6
For by wise guidance you can wage your war,
And in an abundance of [wise] counselors there is victory and safety.

7
Wisdom is too exalted for a [hardened, arrogant] [a]fool;
He does not open his mouth in the gate [where the city’s rulers sit in judgment].

8
He who plans to do evil
Will be called a schemer or deviser of evil.
9
The devising of folly is sin,
And the scoffer is repulsive to men.

10
If you are slack (careless) in the day of distress,
Your strength is limited.

11
Rescue those who are being taken away to death,
And those who stagger to the slaughter, Oh hold them back [from their doom]!
12
If you [claim ignorance and] say, “See, we did not know this,”
Does He not consider it who weighs and examines the hearts and their motives?
And does He not know it who guards your life and keeps your soul?
And will He not repay [you and] every man according to his works?

13
My son, eat honey, because it is good,
And the drippings of the honeycomb are sweet to your taste.
14
Know that [skillful and godly] wisdom is [so very good] for your life and soul;
If you find wisdom, then there will be a future and a reward,
And your hope and expectation will not be cut off.

15
Do not lie in wait, O wicked man, against the dwelling of the righteous;
Do not destroy his resting place;
16
For a righteous man falls seven times, and rises again,
But the wicked stumble in time of disaster and collapse.

17
Do not rejoice and gloat when your enemy falls,
And do not let your heart be glad [in self-righteousness] when he stumbles,
18
Or the Lord will see your gloating and be displeased,
And turn His anger away from your enemy.

19
Do not get upset because of evildoers,
Or be envious of the wicked,
20
For there will be no future for the evil man;
The lamp of the wicked will be put out.

21
My son, fear the Lord and the king;
And do not associate with those who are given to change [of allegiance, and are revolutionary],
22
For their tragedy will rise suddenly,
And who knows the punishment that both [the Lord and the king] will bring on the rebellious?

23
These also are sayings of the wise:
To show partiality in judgment is not good.
24
He who says to the wicked, “You are righteous,”
Peoples will curse him, nations will denounce him;
25
But to those [honorable judges] who rebuke the wicked, it will go well with them and they will find delight,
And a good blessing will come upon them.
26
He kisses the lips [and wins the hearts of people]
Who gives a right and straightforward answer.

27
Prepare your work outside
And get it ready for yourself in the field;
[b]Afterward build your house and establish a home.

28
Do not be a witness against your [c]neighbor without cause,
And do not deceive with your lips [speak neither lies nor half-truths].
29
Do not say, “I will do to him as he has done to me;
I will pay the man back for his deed.”

30
I went by the field of the lazy man,
And by the vineyard of the man lacking understanding and common sense;
31
And, behold, it was all overgrown with thorns,
And nettles were covering its surface,
And its stone wall was broken down.
32
When I saw, I considered it well;
I looked and received instruction.
33
“Yet a little sleep, a little slumber,
A little folding of the hands to rest [and daydream],”
34
Then your poverty will come as a robber,
And your want like an armed man.

TheShopKeeper:
The vote was 427 in favor, with 23 against and one member, Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, voting "present." The 23 lawmakers who opposed the resolution were all Republicans, many of whom wanted a measure that focused solely on anti-Semitism.

Talk about loading the gun that shoots them. Lol.

LordReed:
Yes

Did Angel Gabriel tell them what to write?

Anas09:
You want to be a Christian Mystic or a follower of Jesus? What are you abt?

How come mystic (a person who practices mysticism, or a reference to a mystery, mystic craft or the occult) when my aim is to demystify and understand? If I practise that which is hidden have I followed Christ?

LordReed:
god's command or directive

Like Angel Gabriel telling them what to write?

LordReed:
One of the reasons I became any atheist was when it hit me that none of it is defensible for a supposed god who is love. Yes the implication is, the writers were using "divine imperative" to narrate their side of the tale.

What is "divine imperative"?

Anas09:
Reading all of these makes me wish we can learn to abide by them. Oh Lord.

But one can learn. Can't you?

LordReed:
The defense I used to give back when I believed was that the atrocities were in the past which actually is a weak defense because of the nature of the god but I was uncomfortable exploring the implications of those actions. If I had I probably would have become an atheist much sooner.

Did you ever explore the implications of how you saw it Lord? Who's atrocities were in the past, that of the god or that of the writers whom you read about god?

johnydon22:
Secular morality makes moral conclusions without basis.

Really? The bolds sound like quite a lot of basis

Secular morality is the aspect of philosophy that deals with morality outside of religious traditions. Modern examples include humanism, freethinking, and most versions of consequentialism. Additional philosophies with ancient roots include those such as skepticism and virtue ethics. Greg M. Epstein also states that, "much of ancient Far Eastern thought is deeply concerned with human goodness without placing much if any stock in the importance of gods or spirits."[1]:45 An example is the Kural text of Valluvar, an ancient Indian theistic poet-philosopher whose work remains secular and non-denominational.[2][3][4] Other philosophers have proposed various ideas about how to determine right and wrong actions. An example is Immanuel Kant's categorical imperative.

finalboss:
It comes down to the fact that the only real reason people believe in gods, is because a lot of other people believe in gods. It’s social proof - the ‘evidence’ of god is that a lot of people believe in god…or appear to believe in god.

It comes down to the fact that the only real reason people learn mathematics, is because a lot of other people learn mathematics. It’s social proof - the learning of mathematics is because a lot of people learn mathematics…or appear to learn mathematics.

Do you not see the merit in learning mathematics?

Lent (Latin: Quadragesima, 'Fortieth') is a solemn religious observance in the Christian liturgical calendar that begins on Ash Wednesday and ends approximately six weeks later, before Easter Sunday. The purpose of Lent is the preparation of the believer for Easter through prayer, doing penance, repentance of sins, almsgiving, and self-denial. Lent this year started yesterday, Wednesday, 6 March and ends on Thursday, 18 April.

For penance, I'm reading, or rather, listening to the Bible, and for almsgiving copies of it to you. My prayer will be what it always was, reading, and my repentance will be the reduction in sin. Gonna need you alls help with that last one please you all know I sin. If anyone knows where I can upload for free download let me know. My onedrive, dropbox, googledrives are all full.

buda is preparing for Easter.

EdifiedHebrew:
I don't celebrate it because is pagan customs

If you don't mind, do you observe lent?
What's your religion? Church?

A man is walking home late one night through a dark alleyway in Belfast when he is accosted by a paramilitary wearing a balaclava.

“Are you a Protestant or a Catholic”? demands the paramilitary.

Terrified, and not knowing which side the paramilitary belongs to, the man thinks quickly: “Uh, I’m Jewish”, he says.

The paramilitary pauses for a minute, taken aback, and then snaps: “Alright, but are you a Protestant Jew or a Catholic Jew?”

Proverbs 23 Amplified Bible (AMP)
On Life and Conduct
23 When you sit down to dine with a ruler,
Consider carefully what is [set] before you;
2
For you will put a knife to your throat
If you are a man of great appetite.
3
Do not desire his delicacies,
For it is deceptive food [offered to you with questionable motives].

4
Do not weary yourself [with the overwhelming desire] to gain wealth;
Cease from your own understanding of it.
5
When you set your eyes on wealth, it is [suddenly] gone.
For wealth certainly makes itself wings
Like an eagle that flies to the heavens.

6
Do not eat the bread of a selfish man,
Or desire his delicacies;
7
For as he thinks in his heart, so is he [in behavior—one who manipulates].
He says to you, “Eat and drink,”
Yet his heart is not with you [but it is begrudging the cost].
8
The morsel which you have eaten you will vomit up,
And you will waste your compliments.

9
Do not speak in the ears of a fool,
For he will despise the [godly] wisdom of your words.

10
Do not move the ancient landmark [at the boundary of the property]
And do not go into the fields of the fatherless [to take what is theirs],
11
For their Redeemer is strong and mighty;
He will plead their case against you.
12
Apply your heart to discipline
And your ears to words of knowledge.

13
Do not withhold discipline from the child;
If you [a]swat him with a reed-like rod [applied with godly wisdom], he will not die.
14
You shall [b]swat him with the reed-like rod
And rescue his life from Sheol (the nether world, the place of the dead).

15
My son, if your heart is wise,
My heart will also be glad;
16
Yes, my heart will rejoice
When your lips speak right things.

17
Do not let your heart envy sinners [who live godless lives and have no hope of salvation],
But [continue to] live in the [reverent, worshipful] fear of the Lord day by day.
18
Surely there is a future [and a reward],
And your hope and expectation will not be cut off.
19
Listen, my son, and be wise,
And direct your heart in the way [of the Lord].
20
Do not associate with heavy drinkers of wine,
Or with gluttonous eaters of meat,
21
For the heavy drinker and the glutton will come to poverty,
And the drowsiness [of overindulgence] will clothe one with rags.

22
Listen to your father, who sired you,
And do not despise your mother when she is old.
23
[c]Buy truth, and do not sell it;
Get wisdom and instruction and understanding.

24
The father of the righteous will greatly rejoice,
And he who sires a wise child will have joy in him.
25
Let your father and your mother be glad,
And let her who gave birth to you rejoice [in your wise and godly choices].

26
My son, give me your heart
And let your eyes delight in my ways,
27
For a prostitute is a deep pit,
And an immoral woman is a narrow well.
28
She lurks and lies in wait like a robber [who waits for prey],
And she increases the faithless among men.

29
Who has woe? Who has sorrow?
Who has strife? Who has complaining?
Who has wounds without cause?
Whose eyes are red and dim?
30
Those who linger long over wine,
Those who go to taste mixed wine.
31
Do not look at wine when it is red,
When it sparkles in the glass,
When it goes down smoothly.
32
At the last it bites like a serpent
And stings like a viper.
33
Your [drunken] eyes will see strange things
And your mind will utter perverse things [untrue things, twisted things].
34
And you will be [as unsteady] as one who lies down in the middle of the sea,
And [as vulnerable to disaster] as one who lies down on the top of a ship’s mast, saying,
35
“They struck me, but I was not hurt!
They beat me, but I did not feel it!
When will I wake up?
I will seek more wine.”