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Zanas:
Yes that's how depraved you liberals have become. group of satanic blood suckers. What kind of beasts votes against a bill to preserve the life of infants born alive if not devilish people?

jesusjnr:
If the law and the prophets was the perfect Word of God, then why wasn't it able to make the rich young man who kept it perfect and to enter into into the kingdom of God?

jesusjnr:
I agree with you buda that the Word of God has always being perfect but only with respect to God, and not that of man. .

jesusjnr:
For instance the law and the prophets in the sense of the Word of God was not perfect .....

jesusjnr:
For the difference can be illustrated by the coming of John the baptist who represented the imperfect Word of God(law and the prophets), to prepare the way for the perfect Word of God, Jesus..

jesusjnr:
For the coming of the perfect Word of God represented an upgrade to the law and the prophets, if not there would have been no need for a John the baptist to prepare the way.

jesusjnr:
For although it was not in the perfect form as it was in the beginning, and hence unable to lead man to eternal life, it was yet the Word of God to some extent, and hence was able to grant man some access to God even before it was made flesh in Jesus.

jesusjnr:
And the coming of the Word of God in the human form, in the person of Jesus was meant to perfect that way that already was prior to His coming to Earth, so that it would lead to eternal life.

jesusjnr:
For the Word of God is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

Zanas:
Knowing how devilish you liberals are, I have no doubt you can do what your just described

Zanas:
Don't you know that they are occultic people? That's why they support infanticide. One of their usual rituals is the sacrifice of children

Akin1212:
You already shot yourself in the foot Buda.

Surely and certainly were the words used by God, so God specifically used those English words? Even with those English words, we can still say it means only. According to the fairy, they were not told about death until when instructed not to eat from a tree planted by the protagonist. If the tree wasn't there, they were surely not going to die. Any additional explanation is your own contribution to suit the narrative, which at this point is unnecessary. They would surely die, when they become knowledgeable, but you said ignorance leads to death. That's where you shot yourself in the foot. You honestly did a cognitive dissonance. You should stick with one path, I cannot be going round circles with you. You also said death is inevitable, so it means whether you're ignorant or not you'll die.

Choose one reason why they died.

1. Because they were ignorant.
2. Because they became knowledgeable.
3. Because death was inevitable.


Assuming the story was true.

oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!



YOUR FIRST MISTAKE IS YOUR IGNORANCE OF WHO IT IS WHO IS AUTHORIZED TO TEACH THE CHURCH.

[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN Spake Jesus to the multitude,
and to his Disciples,

2. Saying,

"The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe,
that observe and do; but do not ye after their works:
for they say, and do not.
4. "For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne,
and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works they do for to be seen of men:
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts,
and the Chief Seats in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings in the markets,
and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called 'Rabbi:'
for one is your Master, even Christ;
and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man your father upon the Earth:
for one is your Father, Which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye called masters:
for one is your Master, even Christ.
11. "But he that is greatest among you
shall be your servant.
12. "And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased;
and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye shut up The Kingdom of Heaven against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence make long prayer:
therefore ye shall receive The Greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees,
Hypocrites!
for ye compass Sea and Land
to make one proselyte,
and when he is made, ye make him
twofold more the Child of Hell
than yourselves."

ONLY LORD YESHUA IS AUTHORIZED TO TEACH THE CHURCH.

His Disciples had ONE JOB- that was to teach the World the things that he had taught them.

[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 24:14.

14. "And This Gospel of The Kingdom
shall be preached in all the World
for a witness unto all nations;
and then shall The End come."

[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 24:35.

35. "Heaven and Earth shall pass away,
but my Words shall not pass away."


[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 28:16-20.

18. And Jesus came
and Spake unto them,
saying,

"All Power is given unto me
in Heaven and in Earth.
19. "Go ye therefore,
and teach all nations,
baptizing them
in The Name of The Father,
and of The Son, and of The Holy Ghost:
20. "Teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I have Commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway,
even unto The End of The World."
Amen.

THEY BETRAYED THEIR LORD, SO THAT THEY COULD SEIZE POWER FOR THEMSELVES, AND RUN CHRISTIANITY THE WAY THEY WANTED.

The thought that they could do that- since he had bowed down to them once.

No one questioned it, because that was what was expected of a normal School.

No one knew that Lord Yeshua operated counter-intuitively, because the Disciples weren't telling anyone the REAL Teachings.

The Followers who knew too much- like STEPHEN- were betrayed to the SANHEDRIN, and allowed to be executed.

[color=silver].[/color] ACTS 26:8-11.

8. "Why should it be thought
a thing incredible with you,
that God should raise the dead?
9. "I verily thought with myself,
that I ought to do many things contrary
to the Name of Jesus of Nazareth.
10. "Which thing I also did in Jerusalem:
and many of the Saints did I shut up in prison,
having received authority from the Chief Priests;
and when they were put to death,
I gave my voice against them.
11. "And I punished them oft in every Synagogue,
and compelled them to blaspheme;
and being exceedingly mad against them,
I persecuted them even unto strange cities."

PAUL TRIED TO CHANGE THE GOSPEL, AND MAKE IT ABOUT BELIEVING THAT YESHUA ROSE FROM THE DEAD, AND CALLING HIM "LORD, LORD."

But that is not THE GOSPEL.

SALVATION DEPENDS ON KNOWING AND KEEPING LORD YESHUA'S TEACHINGS.

[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you, do ye even so to them:
for this is The Law and The Prophets."
13. "Enter ye in at the Strait Gate:
for Wide is the Gate, and Broad is the Way,
that leadeth to Destruction,
and many there be which go in thereat:
14. "Because Strait is the Gate, and Narrow is The Way,
which leadeth unto Life, and few there be that find it.
15. "Beware of False Prophets,
which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16. "Ye shall know them by their Fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17. "Even so every good tree bringeth forth Good Fruit;
but a corrupt tree bringeth forth Evil Fruit.
18. "A Good Tree cannot bring forth Evil Fruit,
neither can a Corrupt Tree bring forth Good Fuit.
19. "Every Tree that bringeth not forth Good Fruit
is hewn down, and cast into The Fire.
20. "Wherefore by their Fruits ye shall know them.
21. "Not every one that saith unto me, 'Lord, Lord,'
shall enter into The Kingdom of Heaven;
but he that doeth The Will of my Father
Which is in Heaven.
22. "Many will say to me in That Day,

'LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?'

23. "And then will I profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'

24. "Therefore whosoever heareth
these Sayings of mine, and doeth them,
I will liken him unto a Wise Man,
which built his House upon a Rock:
25. "And the rain descended, and the floods came,
and the winds blew, and beat upon that House;
and it Fell not: for it was founded upon a Rock.
26. "And every one that heareth
these Sayings of mine, and doeth them not,
shall be likened unto a Foolish Man,
which built his house upon the Sand:
27. "And the rain descended, and the floods came,
and the winds blew, and beat upon that House;
and it Fell: and Great was The Fall of it."
28. And it came to pass,
when Jesus had ended these Sayings,
the People were astonished at his Doctrine:
29. For he Taught them as One having Authority,
and not as the scribes.

THESE TEACHINGS WERE NOT RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC UNTIL AFTER CEPHAS AND PAUL HAD DIED.

People may have realized that they didn't have to let them hold the Church back- but the damage was already done.



[color=silver].[/color] PSALM 110:1.

THE LORD said unto my Lord,

"Sit thou at my Right Hand,
until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

IF YOU KNEW THE SCRIPTURES- AS A CHRISTIAN WOULD- YOU WOULD KNOW THAT LORD YESHUA CANNOT RETURN UNTIL HIS ENEMIES HAVE BEEN SUBDUED- AS PER THE FIRST COMMANDMENT:

. GENESIS 1:26-28.

26. And God said,
"Let us make Man in Our Image, after Our Likeness:
and let them have Dominion over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air, and over the Cattle,
and over all the Earth,
and over every Creeping Thing
that Creepeth upon the Earth.
27. So God created Man in His Own Image,
in The Image of God created He him;
male and female created He them.
28. And God Blessed them,
and God said unto them,
"Be fruitful, and multiply,
and replenish the Earth,
and subdue It:
and have Dominion over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air,
and over every Living Thing
that moveth upon the Earth."

THAT IS NOT HIS JOB TO DO- IT IS THE JOB OF HIS DISCIPLES TO DO!

[color=silver].[/color] LUKE 10:16-24.

16. "He that heareth you heareth me;
and he that despiseth you despiseth me;
and he that despiseth me
despiseth Him that sent me."
17. And the seventy returned again with joy,
saying,

"Lord, even the Devils are subject unto us
through thy Name."

18. And he said unto them,

"I beheld Satan as lightning fall from Heaven.
19. "Behold, I give unto you Power
to tread on Serpents and Scorpions,
and over all the Power of the Enemy:
and nothing shall by any means hurt you."
20. "Notwithstanding in this rejoice not,
that the spirits are subject unto you;
but rather rejoice,
because your Names are written in Heaven."

21. In that Hour
Jesus rejoiced in spirit,
and said,

"I thank Thee,
O Father,
Lord of Heaven and Earth,
that thou hast hid these things
from the wise and prudent,
and hast revealed them unto babes:
even so, Father;
for so it seemed Good in Thy Sight.
22. "All things are delivered to me of my Father:
and no man knoweth who The Son is,
but The Father;
and Who The Father is,
but The Son,
and he to whom The Son
will reveal him."

23. And he turned him unto his Disciples,
and said privately,

"Blessed are the eyes
which see the things that ye see:
24. "For I Tell you,

'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND KINGS
HAVE DESIRED TO SEE
THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM;
AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.' "

The Oyinbos thought that Christianity should consist of weakling Christians being chased around by the Mighty Devil and his Minions, because that is the Legacy Lord Yeshua's Disciples left behind.

It was not supposed to be like that- any more than ADAM AND EVE were supposed to be subject to THE SERPENT.

THAT was the CHOICE Adam and Eve MADE.

God did not make It for them- but He had to abide by It.



[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 22:9-11.

9. Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with divers seeds:
lest the fruit of thy seed which thou hast sown,
and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled.
10. Thou shalt not plow with an ox and an ass together.
11. Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts
as of woollen and linen together.

YOU ARE MISTAKEN IN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE SCRIPTURES USING THE EARTHLY PRINCIPLES INADEQUATELY.

THE GOSPEL changes our ability to dominate the Earth and everything in It.

rekinomtla:
Theres no need to provide qualifications when I already clarified what I meant.

Akin1212:
So, are you saying Adam and Eve were going to die anyway even if they didn't eat from the tree of knowledge, because of course thay had life? Even when they were specifically told that they will die only if they eat from the tree? So, death was a useless threat? I think you should check your argument Budaatum. You're threading a path where you'll shoot yourself in the foot.

Assuming the story was true.

Temple1288:


Jussie Smollett the Poet, the comedian, the philosopher and the incredible liar should've won an Oscar! They didn't even nominate him for that wonderful skit!

Viergeachar:
Are you sure

Do you know much he spent on this

ChngedChnges:
I don't think so. Death came as a result of sin and sin is just disobedience in a nutshell

SEGLIZ:
my bro I don't want to handpick or call names so as not be like attacking some selected personality.
but at times I don't feel like church as a result of our practices, I want to practice Jesus not religion - Jesus preaches Love nothing more but our pastors preaches religion.
they make us see non-Christian as what? Evil while they are not, do you expect a man you show hostility to return love for it? we tell a man to his face he is evil when he is trying to be nice and expect him to be happy with us?

Akin1212:
Was death inevitable for Adam and Eve before they ate from the tree of good and evil or was death a consequence of eating from the tree of good and evil?

Assuming the story is true.

jesusjnr:
Budaatum i'm embarrassed that it's this kind of zombie that I gave any manner of consideration to question your saying that it was 2 atheist down.

Such a waste!

harrymahn:
that's why we keep booing him!

frank317:
U must accept Jesus by blind faith. Just believe with no prove. Believe in ur mind that Jesus died for ur sins....

jesusjnr:
OK buda e do! I have heard you.

It two down but you have to stop complicating things unnecessarily, and be ready to portray so wherever you go, and to whomever you know, for if you say two down and then one and half it causes unwarranted confusion.

I was never trying to put you into a box, because as you can clearly see, I refused to be put into any box myself, except the box of my Master's saying which is the only necessary box as far as the church goes if you ask me.

It's okay for us to disagree on somethings but let's be united by the Truth, which is Jesus, and have Him be what we have in common.

Welcome again buda, welcome.

Sorry for not understanding you at first, but at least now you have cleared matters up, so that i'm now doubly sure that when you said it's two atheists down, it was actually two atheists down, and not one and half.

God be with buda!

jesusjnr:
And this.

My divisiveness indeed, just looking for any excuse to justify your error, if not why would you claim it was two atheist down instead of one, if you truly thought there was no difference?

Am sorry If i'm being hard on you, because I understand that it may not be easy to get a full grip on what it entails, hence my advice to you is that you first keep your conversion talk on the down low until you are completely sure about it. So that when you are completely certain about it, then bring it to the fore, so that you'll not find yourself confusing everyone inclusive of yourself.