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Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 6:41pm On Feb 15, 2019

kkins25:
Ohh buda dont tell me MuttleyLaff's prayer and fasting has finally led you to the charismatic cross of christ. Tell me muttley, what psalms did you read? Did you sing the songs of solomon, the cries of job, the lamentations? what was the trick, the spell, the magic, that hoaxed buda into walking through the narrow path of Christianity to meet sky daddy. Oh pray tell my friend, what did you do to my dear buda....

Hey jujusugar, Buddha denies sarcasm like a thief denies thievery. Haha...

Muttley? You kidding!? To be honest, Christianity is one step further than I've come though my Bible is one of my books, so I'll embrace that for now. I found it creeping on me awhile, then gbam! Got! I can't be dealing with the "only Christians are saved" bits yet though, as my God doesn't do bigotry like that, nor am I required to believe since that 'knowing' atheist thing is still in me. I guess, in the end, I went up with Moses, Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel as I said I would and the Lord didn't turn me to stone but said, "now you've seen me buda, you know". I could not deny what my senses perceived in true atheist fashion, I guess.

Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 3:41am On Feb 15, 2019

JujuSugar:
Thank you o
Its almost dizzying reading his posts.....and at this time.....
No offense, budaatum

No offence taken. I've enjoyed discussing with you. Your freedom of expression is refreshing and you tasked my mind, which I respect immensely.

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Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 3:38am On Feb 15, 2019

HappyPagan:
Well, half the board doesn't find you boring. The other half can't follow what you say, but they think it is interesting.. you do use a lot of words.

all I'm saying is, yeah, you do come off as sarcastic.

Interesting. The truth is, I do not have any contempt whatsoever for anyone whosoever except for sciencewatch who is way beyond contempt!

As for not following what I say, guilty as charged I suppose, despite all my attempts to be clear. I do find it sinks in when got back to, but not many would bother I guess.

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Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 2:46am On Feb 15, 2019

HappyPagan:
All these smart people giving me headache... una no dey sleep?

Happy, this juju is pissing me off!

Does buda do sarcasm?

Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 2:45am On Feb 15, 2019

JujuSugar:
Didn't I say that our epistemological framework was such that we can't understand God in my OP?..... Can you show me where I said otherwise?......

Yes you did! At least you did on clarification, and I paraphrased it as "Essentially, 'we know so much about pencils but nothing about God'", though you seem to be bouncing from "our epistemological framework was sufficient", to "it is insufficient", in other posts.

JujuSugar:
Going back to read all your posts and I'm just going to assume you're an agnostic deist......

If you go back further than a week, you will meet the atheist buda, who does not believe gods do not exist but the one who knew they do not exist except in the minds of those in whom they are created. This buda the new evolved buda is a Jesus is Lord buda because God has created buda a mind. Just so you don't get confused.

Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 2:33am On Feb 15, 2019

JujuSugar:
Ok
Budaatum when I said "God told me".......
It was a joke!!!!
Satisfied?

Oh my, forgive me! I did warn you that I cannot read between the lines. Sarcasm is between the line writing too and I don't do that neither.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God! Finally I Don Port! From Atheism To Jesus! Update* Conversion Story. by budaatum: 2:30am On Feb 15, 2019

1Sharon:
You were never a real atheist to begin with. A real atheist will never abandon atheism for Christianity.

Baby atheist.

Buda nko? Vaxx claimed buda was the only true atheist on here, then Jesus got buda!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God! Finally I Don Port! From Atheism To Jesus! Update* Conversion Story. by budaatum: 2:27am On Feb 15, 2019

jesusjnr:
One atheist down, how many more to go?

Tic, Toc...

Two, jesus! You missed out buda!

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Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 2:23am On Feb 15, 2019

JujuSugar:
I thought we were playing a game, weren't we?

A reasoning game? I'd agree. Consistency must be a rule of our playing though.

If I have heard evidence with my hearing sense I can not rationally claim lack of evidence to my senses. If you can, please explain how.

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Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 2:19am On Feb 15, 2019

JujuSugar:
You do know you didn't answer the question, right?

LordReed:
I know you said not to answer but I will for my own entertainment. Budaatum refuses to acknowledge personal sex but I like to think its a she, a sexy, long legged, well endowed, lithe female. LMFAO!

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Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 2:17am On Feb 15, 2019

IAmSabrina:
I find it quite bizarre that ones eternal salvation depends on believing that god exists based on poor evidence.

This is one of the greatest travesties ever perpetrated, that ones eternal salvation depends on believing God exists! Its a general view in Christianity that I am yet to resolve and have constantly written about "Lord Lordism", referring to a particular parable where Jesus was clearly saying believing is not sufficient for salvation, as far as I understand. That said, and since most start their God journey from when they were children who were incapable of no more than believing, I can now say that I perfectly understand that people start with belief, "when I was a child", and all. Buda's path was however different. You may read what buda did When the "Lord said to Moses, “Come up to the Lord, you and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, to fully understand.

In your's above, you seem to present salvation as something beneficial to God. It is not. It is humans who salvation benefits. But more important is this "poor evidence" for God, that you mention. Juju called it "human's epistemological framework". I put it to her that that epistemological framework may be highly comprehensively knowledgeable where shoes are concerned, but a mere patchwork where God is concerned, but I think it didn't go down well, though she did later confess that her framework was far greater that she first implied.

Is it the evidence that is poor, or your senses that are poor, Sabrina?

IAmSabrina:
Whats even worse is that belief or disbelief is something one has no control over. Nobody can force their minds to believe something that doesn't make any sense. Sure you can say that you believe something is true, but that is not the same thing as believing it with your mind.

Alice too said " I can't believe that", and I've previously posted this to show how absurd believing actually is. It is a constant bug of mine, and I still believe that claiming to believe in God is a burn in hell sin for buda, who ought to know!

However, now that I have carefully listened to the Queen's following advice,

‘I daresay you haven’t had much practice,’ said the Queen. 'When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There

And can safely say I agree with the Queen and insist you haven't tried believing hard enough. The alternative is to not believe or to know instead, but that latter is even more work than believing "as many as six impossible things before breakfast", so many opt for the lazier, 'believing'. The reward for knowing however is that much more immense than for believing, but do not take my word for it..

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TV/Movies › Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe by budaatum: 1:27am On Feb 15, 2019

IAmSabrina:
Apparently my previous one has been giving a lot of jobless men heart attack . I want to be able to post without some clown coming to ruin the discussion.

Now you see why buda is male and female.

Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 1:22am On Feb 15, 2019

JujuSugar:
Pick up a shoe.....

Now, if God really does exist and wants a relationship with us -- and if this relationship is the single most important thing to "get right" -- then why would God not give us more epistemic access to his own existence … than that of a shoe??. Doesn't this seem incompatible with the existence of a god who wants to have a relationship with us?

Why, do you say "God [did] not give us more epistemic access to his own existence", yet claim "He told me".

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Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 1:17am On Feb 15, 2019*

IAmSabrina:
For starters, are you a guy or a girl. I'm just curious

"So God creates buda in God's own image, in the image of God God creates buda; both male and female God creates buda."

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Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 1:11am On Feb 15, 2019

LordReed:
I know you said not to answer but I will for my own entertainment. Budaatum refuses to acknowledge personal sex but I like to think its a she, a sexy, long legged, well endowed, lithe female. LMFAO!

You dash buda banana, my Lord! More like short, ugly, bow legged, no tits and gross.

I would add pig, or dog, at the end, but then I'd be asking you to believe dogs and pigs talk too along with Juju's shoes, which is an ask.

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Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 1:05am On Feb 15, 2019

IAmSabrina:
Hmph. LordReed take it easy o
I do enjoy budaatum's posts. Even though I dont get what point he/she's trying to make half the time

Please ask when you don't understand. I shall gladly respond.

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Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 1:04am On Feb 15, 2019

JujuSugar:
He told me

So, you heard God's voice with your senses and you still suggest God should argue God exists as if God were your shoes? Is God's voice insufficient evidence for the existence of God that God needs to argue too?

JujuSugar:
I applaud the sarcasm there. I thought you said you dont do sarcasm

Juju, buda is not being sarcastic! If buda does sarcasm, buda is not loving buda's neighbours not to talk of seeing them as buda's brothers and sisters, which makes buda a liar!

Please remove the lense that makes buda sound sarcastic and you might see buda different.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Would Hell Fire Hurt A Spirit by budaatum: 10:47pm On Feb 14, 2019

Hermes019:
Weirdo,go and see a doctor

Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 10:38pm On Feb 14, 2019

LordReed:
LoL! Lemme help you, budaatum is not a christian (but apparently Jesus has converted her). LMFAO!

Thank my Lord!

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Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 10:17pm On Feb 14, 2019

JujuSugar:
Apparently, YHWH gives a damn as I've illustrated already. If he didn't, what is the point of salvation?

I don't see how you have in any way illustrated that YHWH wants to have a relationship with you! Has YHWH ever approached you and told you anything of the sort? Who exactly is it that wants to have a relationship, Juju with YHWH, or YHWH with Sugar? Which you hear begging please?

Point of salvation of YHWH, because YHWH will die if it does not relate with Juju? Or point of salvation of Juju?

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Mystical Life by budaatum(op): 10:04pm On Feb 14, 2019

When light shines all that is hidden is revealed in related books.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meKhfr_CjQ0

Thank the Lord!

Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 9:30pm On Feb 14, 2019

JujuSugar:
I can't make strong arguments cause I have no idea what your worldview is. So do me good and let me know.
I'm not exactly a fan of sarcasm & mental gymnastics. It stresses me out

You will have an idea of my worldview when you hear what I've written. I'll wait for you to become immune to my mental gymnastics (I have a book for it if you want).

I do not do sarcasm! If I do, I will most surely burn in hell!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Will Religion One Day Become History? by budaatum: 8:37pm On Feb 14, 2019

TATIME:
YES OOO! Let's atheisticalise just for once.
Each person should hold unto his/her personal ideas,without forcing our resolve on others. It's just a pity that most atheists on NL do go out of this boundaries and start insulting others for holding to certain ideas that supposed to be taken as personal!

That is how atheists want to be, if you don't like it go and pray and stop with the eye for an eye and turn the other cheek instead of trying to force your own resolve on them in return!

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Would Hell Fire Hurt A Spirit by budaatum: 8:22pm On Feb 14, 2019

Hermes019:
Well this is the understanding I have and I'm being honest
They say a human being is made up of spirit,soul and body
The body is the one we "wear", I'm not entirely sure what the soul means but they say it is the essence of the being,the spirit is the one that goes to the maker after death

Well, I don't know much about the death bit since I haven't died yet, but in the living human being in which their is a "spirit, soul and body", as you say, I know which bit hurts when I bang a hammer on my thumb and it's not the same bit that hurts when I fail an exam or do something that makes buda burn in hell. You'd have to sin like buda has to fully understand. But now that I am living, I assure you I was dead and my spirit was burning, though, in my dead state, I did not have a clue.

Christianity Etc › Re: Will Religion One Day Become History? by budaatum: 8:09pm On Feb 14, 2019

TATIME:
There are just three factors that implies brotherhood.
*Blood~ Where we're from the same family.
*Business~ Where we're partners by trade.
*Faith~ Where we think,talk and do things in common.
Anything short of these three means you're just a living being living closeby,remember a pet {animal} having a name could also be likened to a neighbour!

Tatime, I hear you. That is how it is for you, and I've told you my brother and sisters are all those whom God created, and "each person has the sole right to CHOOSE how they will think and live their lives". So, let us not "force his/her resolve on others".

Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 8:02pm On Feb 14, 2019*

JujuSugar:
I never claimed that sir. This is an excerpt from my OP....
Can you observe it with any OR all of your 5 senses? If you can, you are able to have as much certainty of this fact as anything else in the world. You'll never see two people debating the existence of shoes.
The point I'm trying to make is that a god who interacts with our reality does not need any argument for his existence

I have never seen shoes arguing with anybody about their existence, juju, where do you get your shoes? I've never seen gods arguing about their existence either mind. So, perhaps gods are like shoes after all, both don't give a damn if you wore them, or not.

JujuSugar:
Read between the lines sir

No! You are going to have to preach to buda because buda is not reasonable and intelligent! Sorry.

JujuSugar:
I can understand that certain people may feel like I took a jab at religious people there. I really didn't....
However, I want you to consider something.....
Christians believe that Atheists are fools for not believing in YHWH (It says so in the bible)
Some christians even go as far as to label atheism, "a mental illness"
They cannot understand how someone cannot believe in a deity

Anyone who does not understand that a super powerful force that is beyond the understanding of many who have limited capabilities to comprehend it but then claim that super powerful force does not exist, are indeed, "fools" and are "mentally ill". But even believers share these ailments in thinking their tiny ability to comprehend is sufficient for them to understand the super powerful force that is beyond the understanding of those who have limited capabilities to comprehend. It is for this very reason that believers exits, see. They believe because they do not know. If they knew, they would not believe. Yet some think they know but do not know. A toss of us fools.

JujuSugar:
So let me paraphrase that statement into a question for you, sir.....
What about those brilliant scientists and intelligent philosophers who don't subscribe to any religion? Why have they abandoned the faith?
Answer it and look if you can see where I am.....

There is no reason nor requirement that a brilliant and intelligent (and by this I assume, wise), person would subscribe to any religion. A brilliant and intelligent persons would have used their senses (there are more that five, by the way), to build their epistemological framework, and if they did their job right, they would know and not believe, since, religion would be a patch on their framework. They would have faith. Faith that tomorrow will surely come is sufficient.

JujuSugar:
Potato, Po-tah-to

Yes. Same thing, different names.

JujuSugar:
That's not what I said. At all.

These were your exact words:

"So the state of humanity is thus: we find ourselves in a world with an epistemological framework such that we are far more likely to know that a pencil exists than that God exists!

Essentially, 'we know so much about pencils but nothing about God'.

JujuSugar:
EXACTLY, SIR!
And this is where things get interesting....
a/ If we don't have any perfect method of observing the "spiritual", how are people so certain that this things exist?
b/ Why would a loving God want to hide himself from people?

First, or, a/ Why does our "method of observing the "spiritual" have to be perfect? Did our eyes have to be perfect to see the planets in the sky? Does God not love us just the way we are?

And second, for what reason do you claim, a/ That God is loving, and b/ that "God wants to hide himself from people"? Are we talking of the same God that "so loved the world" and the one screaming "love me" in Proverbs and found buda? If that's hiding, I thank you Lord for being a crappy hider!

JujuSugar:
It doesn't matter what he benefits from it or what he doesn't. The fact is (according to the bible), that's what he wants...

Revelation 21:3-4

And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them, and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away."

Clearly, God wants a relationship with man

Typical God! The astute everything. God creates all these things, including things that live and die, and then, for the love of that which the Lord God created, God insists, on telling you how to go about it so you live longer and with less pain!

My Lord God, you are Mighty for wanting a relationship with puny insignificant buda!

JujuSugar:
“If a man has 100 sheep and one of them strays, will he not leave the 99 on the mountains and set out on a search for the one that is straying?”
The lesson?....
“Likewise, it is not a desirable thing to my Father who is in heaven for even one of these little ones to perish.”—Matthew 18:12-14.

See, sheepie! Not hiding!

I'm beginning to think you want God to be a kidnapper, juju, so God would capture you. Just so you know, from what I've learnt, don't you dare put it past God.

JujuSugar:
And yours is the first to get me preaching. SMH

Yep, double lol. Captured!

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Christianity Etc › Re: God And Shoes.... by budaatum: 7:02pm On Feb 14, 2019

JujuSugar:
And yours is the first to get me preaching. SMH

First, a double lol on this! grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Would Hell Fire Hurt A Spirit by budaatum: 6:55pm On Feb 14, 2019

Hermes019:
Well that is what religionists say,its not my position

You still must have an idea of what they mean by spirit to ask if it feels pain! What is this spirit that feels pain?

Christianity Etc › Re: What Does It Mean To Be Called By God's Name? by budaatum: 6:53pm On Feb 14, 2019

Ubenedictus:
I know u dont believe in the HS, so ur post above leaves a bad taste on my tongue.

'Bad taste', remove from Uben's tongue! In the name of the Father, his Son, the HS, and by Mary's Grace.

Buda's belief is no determinant of the truth, Uben.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Would Hell Fire Hurt A Spirit by budaatum: 6:43pm On Feb 14, 2019

Hermes019:
I have heard this a couple of times,you are asked to imagine how it feels when a fire burns your skin,and then you are told that it would feel the same way or even worse to be cast into the lake of fire(hell). I have a problem with this illustration. When we are burned by fire or any hot object we feel hurt because we have a nervous system,if we didn't have a nervous system or if our nervous systems were not functioning we can't feel pain,even if your whole body is completely burnt u wouldn't feel any pain.Of course this is something we can relate to when you are giving an anaesthetic maybe during surgery and that body region becomes numb no matter the manner of injury you inflict to that portion of the person wouldn't feel any pain. Suffice to say it is not the fire that is really responsible for the pain,what causes u to feel pain is the reaction of your body(the pain receptors,brain and motor receptors) to the stimulus(the fire).
So having established this,we can say that no nervous system,no pain

So this brings us to my question

Does the spirit (if it actually exists as claimed)possess a nervous system or a replica of some sort ?
If it doesn't then how exactly will a spirit feel pain ?

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budaatum,
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What, exactly, is this spirit, that you "heard a couple of times", feels pain?

Christianity Etc › Re: Will Religion One Day Become History? by budaatum: 6:39pm On Feb 14, 2019

TATIME:
NEIGHBOUR differs totally from BROTHER Sir!

Yes, to you Tatime. Indeed.

Buda, on the other hand, lives in the digital world of heredom where, spiritually speaking, you have literally stepped into my home and eaten my food and into my heart. Or is it not the case that your spiritual self engaged with mine much more than you likely ever did with any other being on earth?

Such as they who engage with me are my neighbours no more but products of my Lord God and hence my brothers and sisters in spirit.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Mystical Life by budaatum(op): 6:32pm On Feb 14, 2019

vaxx:
You don't claim a fact that is hidden . That is not bibliography.

So, if buda find "a fact that is hidden" buda must not share it with vaxx? Is it by not bibliographing that they hide what they know, and more which they can't know so can't bibliograph anyway? Is it not so you do not know the little they do know that they don't bibliograph the little that they know? Is it not true if buda don't mention to vaxx what buda find buda will be hiding from vaxx, a sin for which is hell, for no one who finds a good thing shall hide it? If buda do not share with vaxx with whom shall buda share? Or do you assume that all that is known is bibliographed?

No, buda shall not wait for bibliographs before buda shares with vaxx what buda finds that might be hidden to vaxx! We will write what needs to be bibliographed so vaxx can see!

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