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Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 1:21am On Nov 18, 2018

LordReed:
LoL! Destroyed by Budaa! LMFAO!

I'm not having that! We have only defined one sort of god, the human god commonly defined as the small 'g' god which we agree exists, and not the Almighty Creator of Heaven Yahweh God, Himself.

Could the Almighty God exist, Lord?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 8:00pm On Nov 17, 2018

LordReed:
Well, since we have observed no such beings within our local space, if they exist they must be somewhere else other than our local space.

Or they just don't exist.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 7:59pm On Nov 17, 2018

LordReed:
If we define local space as everything we can observe now, we still know there is more we can't observe and so it could be out there. Besides the only things we observe at great distances are world and star sized objects, human sized objects would be completely missed.

Kal El we welcome you! LMFAO!

Well, look up and see the sun. Some people have and called it God. You'd find references even in the Bible, if that's the God you mean.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Come We Did Not Hear Satan's Side Of The Story? by budaatum: 7:15pm On Nov 17, 2018

MuttleyLaff:
You havent come across Satan's account because there is nothing to deny
and also that's why Satan has never refuted the account nor call into question why he was chased away from heaven

How can we trust that Satan's account is not a denial that was suppressed?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 6:58pm On Nov 17, 2018

LordReed:
LoL!

Ones that we've not observed? Plausibly, simply because we have not observed much beyond our local space. We may encounter Kal El type creatures someday.

P.s. We have gone to the moon, sent probes to the outer limits of our galaxy, and peered much further through amazing telescopes, this is a lot more than our local space. Much more than was observed when we were developing the awareness that things were observable, the first act of consciousness the human mind achieved. Genesis is an 'as they knew it at the time' explanation. And Jesus with his spit on mud enhanced sight even further.

We observe a lot more than our local space so might be advised to change where we seek gods.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 6:43pm On Nov 17, 2018

LordReed:
LoL!

Ones that we've not observed? Plausibly, simply because we have not observed much beyond our local space. We may encounter Kal El type creatures someday.

Seems you hold the view that gods must be out in space somewhere. I can't say it's a view I share since there is no evidence for what the Greeks abandoned some 25 centurys ago. But if we do find living beings out in space, do you think they would be our gods? They'd have to have Jesus Christ tattooed inside them for this generation to worship them, not to talk the wine, gold and replacing hearts.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 6:13pm On Nov 17, 2018

LordReed:
LoL. Buda, I know what you trying to say but I want us to speculate for a moment, maybe even indulge in some steelmaning even. We are trying to consider a possibility not considering what has not been demonstrated (that a god has not been shown to exist).

Go on, speculate. The god you have so far defined though is a surgeon, and they exist.

Let me ask you a question, "could gods exist?"

Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 6:08pm On Nov 17, 2018

LordReed:
Of course, I will not deny that humans have made the effort towards enlightenment and I think no gods can take that away from us.

I posted some links in hustla's wonderful thread related to this.

Look around you. Do not underestimate the gods!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 6:04pm On Nov 17, 2018

LordReed:
I tried to formulate a broad spectrum definition of god that would encompass most propositions of god. One basic characteristic of god propositions is that gods are able to perform feats which may not have naturalistic explanations. One keen example I think is transmutation, transforming one substance to another with little intervening physical action. Midas was given the ability by a god, to touch anything and turn it into gold, even a human was turned into solid gold. Jesus simply asked servants to fill a jar with water, fetch it and bear it to the MC of an event and the water was turned to wine. Those are not explainable by any naturalistic explanation we know of now. Gods will be able to consistently do such acts.

We read that Midas touched anything and turned it into gold and that water was turned to wine but who says they are "not explainable by any naturalistic explanation we know of now"? Everyone doesn't know, or you don't understand yet?

I'll biblespeak it. "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God". Easy, you'd think, considering everything it's like. But what is it, and where should one seek? About not accepting open heart surgery as an act of god! Is it not greater than turning ones daughter into gold or getting everyone drunk?

Midas was a good moneymaker, perhaps a good dealer. He was so concerned with making money he sold his own daughter. As to Jesus, good thing he didn't drink any or we'd be calling him a drunkard. I happen to think the first open heart surgery was not explainable by any naturalistic explanation known at that time and surgeon gods consistently do such acts, though now, we do understand.

I'm agreeing with you Lord. Their acts may not have been understood when first performed, but even more so than they did is done now. The surgeon is a god.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 5:17pm On Nov 17, 2018

LordReed:
Definition of god: a being capable of doing acts that defy the laws of nature as we know it.

See the italics? It's evidence of enlightenment.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 5:12pm On Nov 17, 2018

LordReed:
LoL! No not like that, the surgeon is still bound by the laws nature because he has to cut open the chest, extract the first heart then put in the new one. Most propositions of god will have the god replace the heart without any physically apparent intervention. That's the type of breaking the laws of nature I mean.

I thought you meant your "propositions of god", and not that of "most". You a mind reader Lord?

Give me examples of gods breaking the laws of nature, maybe I'll get what you mean.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: New Parish Priest Paraded Through The Streets In A Porsche Pulled By 50 Children by budaatum: 4:40pm On Nov 17, 2018

kennypedia:
Wetin do the car engine? This is child labour. Anyway it's a nice car

Foreign Affairs › Re: Turkey Leaks Photos Of Jamal Khashoggi’s Dismemberment By Saudi Author by budaatum: 4:37pm On Nov 17, 2018

HarryDuce:
You never know. America, maybe. Europe, I doubt.

Turkey isn't gonna just stand by especially where Saudi is involved.

Yet, Turkey is powerless against Saudi Arabia protected by Britain and USA. Someone will bribe then. They'd eventually stand by.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 4:26pm On Nov 17, 2018

LordReed:
LoL! I trust you to politely eviscerate things and you do not disappoint.

I'm honoured you ask the question. Duty bound to try my best.

LordReed:
Definition of god: a being capable of doing acts that defy the laws of nature as we know it.

So, when the first surgeon defied the "laws of nature as we know it" by replacing someone's heart with another heart, that person was a god? I'd accept that. I've had recourse to lots of them recently, and know where to find them and would willingly bow down to worship them when I need to and have done so in the recent past, if that's what you mean by gods.

That's not what many mean by God, however.

Christianity Etc › Re: The True Identity Of Catholic Mary by budaatum: 4:14pm On Nov 17, 2018

blueAgent:
Lie. only the Bible is God's inspired word.

And yet, God, it is not! Nor is the Bible the only inspired word! Or are you suggesting deafening yourself by sticking your fingers in your ears so you hear no words of the Holy Ghost?

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Christianity Etc › Re: The True Identity Of Catholic Mary by budaatum: 4:09pm On Nov 17, 2018

Ubenedictus:
the woman who gave birth to the saviour didn't play a role in the salvation of humanity

sorry that sounds really dumb like you are running away from something that is starring you in the face. so giving birth to the saviour is not a role

abeg go and sleep, this is just really dull.

if you can't add one plus one it isn't my fault.

I think he is unable to see into the meaning of the Word.

Christianity Etc › Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by budaatum: 3:59pm On Nov 17, 2018*

falcon01:
or we educate then and they leave religion and invent Evil machines that will make the world to Develop the way devil wants it and to find cure for diseases so that the Devil will be happy.

So, when you educate your child and it leaves your religion, your child will "invent Evil machines that will make the world to Develop the way devil wants it and to find cure for diseases so that the Devil will be happy"?

Please hire a teacher to educate your child to become a doctor, a lawyer, a Messi and a fly to the moon child. You do not qualify to educate a child!

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Christianity Etc › Re: The More Intelligent A Child Is,the More Likely It'll Abandon Religion-newstudy by budaatum: 3:54pm On Nov 17, 2018

falcon01:
so we should stop educating our children so they wont leave our religion?

No. Educate your children so they can grow their intellect. They will leave your religion when they discover how irrational it is.

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Christianity Etc › Re: How Come We Did Not Hear Satan's Side Of The Story? by budaatum: 3:50pm On Nov 17, 2018

Righteousness89:
how does a senseless stuff pain?

You don't understand it?

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Christianity Etc › Re: How Come We Did Not Hear Satan's Side Of The Story? by budaatum: 3:30pm On Nov 17, 2018

Righteousness89:
[s][/s]

E pain you grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 3:28pm On Nov 17, 2018

LordReed:
@Budaatum @all
Do you think a god could exist? Leaving aside what has been or not been demonstrated, could a god or gods exist beyond our planet for instance?

Beyond our planet, lol!

When America was planning to go to the moon in the 60s, a lot of people got it into their heads that they would find God there. It was a hysteria at the time, funny to us in England who were more rational. We after all can't afford to cook things up in our heads with our siblings in Europe ready to shout, "it's a lie!" But America? Who get brain reach America around America? Leaders of the new order. Winners of two world wars! This was going to be televised. They were going to check if God was on the moon.

When they got to the moon and found no God despite their reading the bible and praying when they got there, they were deflated. They'd lost a war, Saudi Arabia strangled their necks showing them they weren't even the most economically powerful. They pretty much learnt their lesson not to build towers of babel and the stupidity of looking all over the place for God. They've evolved to 'the Kingdom and Spirit of God is within them', and to all intent and purposes, God blesses America.

So your question, could gods exist? I say yes. If buda cook up god in buda's head god will exist in buda head and if buda cook up buda god in the heads of other people buda god will exist in their head too. But in the minds of those in who's head buda cooking don't cook buda god cannot exist. You don't have to travel all the way to Sokoto to find what exists in your head.

So, let's look for God shall we. First question, What is God? One needs to know what God is before one can consider where to find God.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Believing In Jesus Without Obeying His Words' Like Building A House On Sand by budaatum: 4:31am On Nov 17, 2018

jesusjnr:
Do you mean Jesus or jesusjnr? If I hurt you, you don't have to take it out on my Lord now, but hit me that hurt you. Except you trying to get back at me by hitting at my Master, well that's not gonna work because if you know what has already been said about Him in the past, you would know that this is close to nothing!

I meant Jesus. And not in a bad way.

Politics › Re: Leaked Recording: We Left APC Because We Were Not Financially Rewarded - Saraki by budaatum: 8:28pm On Nov 16, 2018

The Countdown: 21 Nuggets on Muhammadu Buhari and 2019 Nigerian Presidential Election - My Take - Kayode Ogundamisi

Christianity Etc › Re: Believing In Jesus Without Obeying His Words' Like Building A House On Sand by budaatum: 8:04pm On Nov 16, 2018

Thunder Fire Jesus Amen!

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Politics › Re: Ex-npdp Spokesperson, Reveals Those Who Allegedly Wanted Buhari Dead In London by budaatum: 7:23pm On Nov 16, 2018

atikulated2019:
I hate talking to Indians with dot on their forehead.I feel like they are recording me í ½í¸í ½í¸

Lol

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Politics › Re: Ex-npdp Spokesperson, Reveals Those Who Allegedly Wanted Buhari Dead In London by budaatum: 7:22pm On Nov 16, 2018

With power, I decree we take brainless idiots to the bottom of the river and bash their stupid heads against a rock!

Christianity Etc › Re: This Generation Shall Not PASS, Till All These Things Be Fulfilled. by budaatum: 6:07pm On Nov 16, 2018

MrPresident1:
bls2u

buda lifts skirt to you

A sign of regard to those who do with their brain.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Come We Did Not Hear Satan's Side Of The Story? by budaatum: 6:00pm On Nov 16, 2018

Righteousness89:
then you don't want to tell URSELF the truth

Irony. Is the word that describes what you did there. Situational irony, to be specific.

What'd you think?

Christianity Etc › Re: How Come We Did Not Hear Satan's Side Of The Story? by budaatum: 5:54pm On Nov 16, 2018

hustla:
I am just curious

How come we did not listen to or havent come across Satan's account and circumstances of why he was chased away from heaven?
Who knows?

bls2u2!

Christianity Etc › Re: How Come We Did Not Hear Satan's Side Of The Story? by budaatum: 5:52pm On Nov 16, 2018

The Genesis theory of consciousness

Christianity Etc › Re: How Come We Did Not Hear Satan's Side Of The Story? by budaatum: 5:38pm On Nov 16, 2018

Research.

What really happened in the garden?

Christianity Etc › Re: This Generation Shall Not PASS, Till All These Things Be Fulfilled. by budaatum: 5:33pm On Nov 16, 2018

MrPresident1:
We were taking the roadblocks away one at a time. There were three major roadblocks before we arrived at the real deal. This thread and two others were roadblocks that needed crossing, Hallelujah!!! We crossed successfully.

Winter is coming

Tick-tock says the time

You are a doer, MrPresident1.

bls2u! kiss

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