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ScienceWatch:
Ok I get it. Allow me to paraphrase. You are saying that the phone I am using was built by medical science. Therefore it is foolish of me to call medical science a scam.

We should get to a point where we agree to vehemently disagree. Nevertheless, I will continue reading your posts without your permission.

A person who writes nonsense would also make no sense of what they read. Both go hand in hand, because in order to write, one must be able to comprehend what is written too.

You don't need permission, but please do continue to read what I write. Practice, after all, will improve your competence. And you know I put in a lot of effort for your sort's sake.

ScienceWatch:
It reveals bad character when a man pats himself on the back (commends himself) for his "utter regret" at ignoring a humble man's posts.

Let me rather commend you BudaAtum.
I Sciencewatch hereby commend BudaAtum for effectively ignoring my posts.

All the best !

Trust me, it's usually very easy to ignore you once one realises one can't possibly be the only who sees how juvenile your posts are. It's just that on slow days like today when I have gotten through the important stuff, boredom sets in and you get a tiny bit of my time.

The good things is, however, that it's at times like these that I look for something worthwhile to be getting on with. Your sort must not be allowed to take up much of one's time.

You sit there writing this stuff? O, my bad, of course you don't as that would require the use of technology built by scientists! I'm most certain you don't even think and by gott, it appears before us all. It would explain why it's nonsense.

ScienceWatch:
I can repeat it for those that are hard of hearing. MEDICAL SCIENCE IS A SCAM.

I do admire how you pull the right names out of a hat to make your point. Well done.

Now go get Buhari to reveal his deepest secrets about his million dollar experiences with medical science.
Buhari will wisely say to you, "These bastards got me hooked with no effective solutions to my problems. They do many extremely painful operations at great cost to the country with no results. They refuse to refund the money even though they fail each time."

Buhari quickly gives BudaAtum the Oath of Secrecy and continues to lament, "Buda old buddy, it is sad for a man in my position to say that I trust my cellphone dealer more than my doctors. Let me tell you the truth BudaAtum, my Huawei cellphone failed but no problem Buda, they refunded all my money. But those crooked doctors fail all the time and have refused even one refund. Please keep this secret Buda, the country pays millions of US dollars for things that don't work.""

MEDICAL SCIENCE IS A SCAM.

johnydon22:
Is there really any need to reply that fuckery of a comment?

To be honest, not really. There's in fact no need to even bother reading anything he posts, and I commend myself on mostly not bothering. Just that sometimes, and to my utter regret, I can't help myself, and so wish there was an ignore button so I don't even see how stupid he often is.

ScienceWatch:
It is well known that medical science is a scam.

You all heard him. When you are ill, don't bother going to the doctors. They are "a scam".

(You got to wonder why the likes of Buhari bother travelling abroad for healthcare though!)

superhumanist:
It is funny how some clowns are rallying behind the nonsense video.

If only they knew how many Christians become atheists

I think we have come to expect no less from the op. He doth protest so much that rather than edify, I see God being belittled by every post of his that if I were to bow down to his version, I will surely go to the hell he imagines is reserverd for atheists. I would expect his supporters to go to the same hell just for refusing to use their supposedly God given minds, except not all would supposedly be judged by the same standards.

If anything, op is an insult to his almighty, who just appears to be altiny when he describes it.

Note that we observers are learning from the engagement in this thread, so thank you for your time and effort. What is being discussed is your individual 'beliefs', with hopefully, scripture in support. It is a rather poignant topic and no one can truly claim to 'know'.

So please tire not! With time, and patience, all will become clearer. Only the dead in spirit would not be further enlightened by the engagement.

MuttleyLaff:
Bud, I think it's like a case of fancying brunettes, that are tall and with heavy bazookas and bacca
but settling for a shorter one with just bacca, and get committed, faithful, honest to a lifetime long lasting relationship

In a sense, they're attracted to both sexes,
but become committed, faithful and honest once a particular plunge has been taken

Not quite. It's like fancying both at the same time. Once you settle for one, you're no more "b".

MuttleyLaff:
The B in LGBT, I personally think, is about trying to have your cake and eat it too

One can't have it both ways, that is just pure "ojukokuro, afẹjumọ" greed

I used to think the same way. But concluded that where other people put their bits is none of my business as long as they weren't putting it into me or I wasn't putting my bits into them.

Ishilove:
So you were alive in '84??

Thanks, we had to put him down eventually. He was in too much pain

Sorry bout your dog Ishilove. Funny how one can feel so much for them.

My 84 dog was my second. My first, Skippy, died when we moved and I had to send it to my grandma in the Orolu Kingdom where I'd got it from. My uncle, the Basorun bought it for me for 50kobo, but three weeks of caring for it in Lagos, some man tried taking it off me for 100Naira, which I wasn't having, even though that 100 seemed like a million at the time. It felt like I'd be selling my only friend!

I wasn't let out in those days. But we had this long wraparound balcony up on the third floor where my dog and I could hide for hours and watch the world go by or read and play or listen to radio broadcasts from all over the world which was great as I wasn't quite into tente my siblings enjoyed. We eventually moved to a no-dog place which was why Skippy had to go to grandma. Sending that dog away sent me into deep depression that lasted years.

Grandma sold Skippy for 10Naira, but I was told it jumped out of the cage it was being taken away in and got run over by a bus. I was glad it died. She'd sold it to Ogun worshippers who were going to eat it! I had many memorable years with that dog, much longer than the second - to add to your computing of how long I've lived, Eagle Eyes, lol.

Been watching you by the way. I'm so impressed that I've let you drag memories out of me that are like very ancient indeed. So here's one for the price of two. I'll be 13 on the 20th.

xpmode:
Why should they be allowed if they have not repented of theirs evil ways. why should they polute the congregation of the Lord. Allowing them to -come inside the church is against Biblical Principle (Act 2v41-47). If they wanted to come in the door is open, as long as they are ready to repent.

As at today, there are non LGBT who are yet to repent from their old ways, we see them causing troubles in the church

So, only those who are sinless should be in your church? Only the "righteous" should be in your congregation? While I wonder how you intend to check for this sinlessness and righteousness, I wonder if you wouldn't end up with empty pews singing aleluya. I guess you wouldn't need stones as there'd be no one to stone with them. You probably wouldn't have anyone to do the stoning either, with those empty pews.

superhumanist:
What about people born into atheist homes?

My home was atheistic when I arrived in it. Though both had Bibles, neither parent went to Church or prayed at the time, as they were too busy learning and earning their way. Ma was a nurse. Double pay on Sunday was more important than Church. And Pa a lawyer, was prepared to reason any illogicality out the park. You mentioned ordinary Father Christmas and you'd get books to read on the topic!

I was introduced to God when I arrived in Nigeria. Everyone did God! It was alien to me, but going to Church was the only way to get out of the house on a boring Sunday. So I became a church junky and reading the Bible just became the next logical step being that I am a reader anyway. What else after all does one do when the transformer in front of the house blows up and we got no power for three months. I began to understand how people around me reasoned when all my mates swore blind that oyinbo rats talk.

I think being born into an atheist home is similar to being born into a religious home except your ideology would be atheistic as opposed to religious. You get taught the path you should trod, and only the brave depart from it.

superhumanist:
Fake news

An 'atheist' who is concerned he'd go to Lol!

I just wonder why some people have to ridicule their gods by posting such crap as evidence for said gods.

shaybebaby:
50 shades of gay

With muttley? The guy who refuses to write straight sentences?

I pass thanks. He'd have to bend!

9inches:
The use of the word catholic with a small "c" does not mean the Catholic denomination. It is an older usage (from which the denomination drew its name) meaning "universal". Anglicanism is often called the "via media" or "middle way" between Catholicism and Protestantism.

As in antecedent to the 'C' use, used prior to the 'C' usage, derived from a previous usage? It does imply there were Christian churches before the "Universalism".

The first churches were disorganised pockets of Christians. It was some of these that were grouped together to form the Roman Catholic Church. Doctrinal differences kept some apart, but some still joined up despite the differences. If they were in the Roman Empire, they pretty much had no choice in the matter. These differences, along with the decline of the Romans, however festered into the splits that created the different protestant sects.

MuttleyLaff:
PS: If not that you clammed up, I really was looking forward to catching up with you, in camera, that failed to happen

I'm sure if you'd tried hard enough, you'd have got me.

MuttleyLaff:
Strange, a Brit, changing my written "offence" to "offense"

We all grown, and no ones deliberately slung any insult at you on here or elsewhere
If any had done, then reproduce it here, word for word, verbatim here or elsewhere
Copy and paste the insult slung at you here, and the perpetrator who did it
I can bet my bottom dollar, it's not how you're taking it
Apologies can be sincerely tendered, if you still feel aggrieved

Did you miss the bit about my age? Or the offense being at myself for engaging with people who lack manners?

I don't need anyone apologising to me mutt. I've said my bit on the issue and moved on, and it would seem, so too has the person concerned. It could after all have not been on purpose, and that's the stance I'm willing to take on the subject barring evidence to the contrary.

Could you move on too maybe?

MuttleyLaff:
Geriatric is still a few year more away too

You're very quick to take offence today.
What happened bud? Kilode, ki lo shele padi mi?.

You are spot on with the "quick to take offense", but wrong with the "today". We might be online, and not face to face, but manners still don't cost much. Still, people can be asses if they wish to. I however have regard for myself and don't have to engage with one. And age has nothing to do with it. I am 12, but that don't mean you get to insult me and get my time.

MuttleyLaff:
Put some humour in your life fam. It's good for the skin
Orisa37 was only teasing you nau

I'm not some kid you do humour with by slinging insults!

And please, could you consider minding your own skin instead of licking others? You got me wrong so I'd assume you got orisa wrong too.

I'm not ignoring the other stuff you wrote, just can't get my head around it.

MuttleyLaff:
literally meaning I AM fill in the blanks sent you.

Whatever one says God is is what God is? Gods made up by the individual?

Is that why there's as many Gods as humans have bothered to create?

MuttleyLaff:
Budaatum doesnt like to be told to zip up his cake hole

buda doesn't mind actually, though buda does wonder whom you think buda is, or more importantly, whom you think you are to assume to tell buda what to do. Are you going to remove buda's posting rights, or throw buda in hell perhaps?

What buda minds is buda conversing with people who resort to insults. They show they haven't got much of intelligence, and buda insults buda by responding to such people.

orisa37:
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I know you haven't seen the pictures of Children slaughtered like chickens in Plateau. Very sickening. If This Government doesn't restructure before December this year, Buhari doesn't need to campaign to win. And The Fulanis will come back to teach Tinubu and Akande some bitter lessons in Fulani/Arabian Politics. The people are really mad, uncivilised and illiterate.

I hope you've began manner lessons. I find it difficult to converse with foul mouthed people. They come across as "uncivilised and illiterate" to me.

So, how is this government responsible for the atrocities of the Fulanis? Are you aware that those who suffer most from these atrocities are the Hausas in the North? Have you wondered why they have not come down to the South of Nigeria to blow people up?

9inches:
The apostles were the first Christians and their version of Christianity is what the Catholic Church teaches. When saying the Creed, we say "I believe in one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church...." The name Catholic is used to differentiate between us and the other sects. Apart from that, it's simply the Christian Church or the Church of the Apostles.

The Church of England's creed, which is Anglican reads as follows:
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church,
the communion of saints

The more detailed Nicene Creed, also read in the Anglican Church of England, reads as follows

We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.

They don't say "catholic" to "differentiate between us and the other sects" but to show the opposite, joint communion.

Every church claims to teach the version of the early Apostles. It also seems every church wants to claim their's is more godly than anyone elses.

orisa37:
Yes. You're right. God allowed Nigerians to choose Buhari to teach us the Leason we are now learning. And if we don't learn well, The Fulanis are anxiously waiting to enslave the likes of Daniels, Shadracks, Mechaks and Abednegoes of Nigeria.
The ways of God is not that of Man. The same God that sent Moses to Pharaoh hardened the Heart of Pharaoh against Moses. And He is deafening Buhari and his 46 Hench-Senators and Cabals against Restructuring. Schizophrenia is The Mark of every Dictator. Only God can change him to Restructure. And with Prayers, nothing is imposible.
So Oga Atheist please shut up.

The lessons you need to learn are, in times of plenty (crude oil at $150 a barrel), you should save up because famine might follow. The second is manners, and the dishardening of your own heart.

Please don't leave that last one to God to restructure you. With a little effort on your own part, your manners can improve. It is not impossible.

9inches:
What do you mean by one of the earliest? Every other denomination I know came out of it. And yes, you're right, I'm Catholic.

They say, "History is written by the conqueror", and that is what you have, history according to the Catholic Church. They were many Churches before the Catholic Church consolidation. Wiki has some good writing on the topic.

But I was referring to those in existence now, which mostly do, as you say, "came out of the Catholic Church". Every Church claims authority from God, and subjectively interpret scripture.

One could claim there permission to do so was established by Christ. The 'Church' in his day could be said to be the High Priest and synagogue of his time, who's authority was 'given by God'. Jesus however challenged their authority by claiming his came from God too. I guess the fact that he had studied a different doctrine in Egypt had something to do with it.

MuttleyLaff:
You can see Jesus today before midnight.
Look out your window right now,
or go outside your house, this moment, you'll see Jesus.

Guess he could be the girl with the extra short skirt I see outside my window. I wonder if the daughter she's playing with is the Holy Spirit.

Pity. I know you're much wiser than you're showing lately.

Oh, hold on. Here comes her father. I wonder if that's God himself.

orisa37:
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I see Christ whenever I value, not want, to see Him. I see Him not only in Trinity but sometimes in Thirtinity. He is a good God. We are watching Him handle this Buhari Autocracy Powerfully. God will disgrace Satan soon.

I see nothing of the sort! What I hope is that you all go and register to vote for whomever you want to be the President. It's the people who elect the President, and not Gods!

That said, you all are very lucky you voted Buhari and not give PDP the freedom to continue to loot the nation! If you had, you'd have by now be screaming much louder than you are now.

orisa37:
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If you sincerely call Jesus Christ,you 'll see Him before midnight.

Sincerely, you say. Guess that would be your excuse when I don't see him before midnight.

You show me anyone who has "seen Jesus.

orisa37:
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You are not an atheist if you can say Amen.

Lol! I wonder what I'd become if I said, "Jesus Christ Holy Lord!" Muttley's comments deserve that much.

Some of them would leave church on Sunday and visit babalawo too looking for solution to their problems. Then they will tell me to accept Jesus into my life!

orisa37:
Lord help us.

Even I, an atheist, have no choice but to say, Amen!

9inches:
I understand where you are coming from, but the Holy Spirit does not sow confusion. And no, Christ did not give permission to forge one's own subjective interpretation. That's the reason he made his apostles (the early Church) the custodian of his Word and additionally promised them his Holy Spirit to guide them in the light of truth. The Church is the pillar and foundation of Truth. Truth is not guaranteed outside the Church (1 Tim 3:15). That's all I'm saying.

I think only a Catholic would make such a claim, as they were one of the earliest! (Are you Catholic?)

All the other churches would like to claim the same authority, but would have to explain their defiance of the Popes authority.