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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Voodoo Doesn't Exist, My Little Experience by budaatum: 4:43am On Jan 13, 2018

tamethem:
I have just told you I can't guarantee you won't be disabled or loose your life.

I am a Christian.

You can't really guarantee this stuff works as you haven't been to Ile Ife yourself. You are just a bearer of false witness!

tamethem:
I have a friend who is not a Christian who grew up in Ile Ife and very close to the typical locals with some powers that don't exist according to you guys, I would just tell him to take you guys to Ife and straight to some babas who just by their words from a distance without touching you would make all of you go blind for the rest of your lives or even make you dry up on the spot.

But since it can be done from a distance, please throw your friend's rubbish my way and prove your point!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why People Are Atheists? by budaatum: 4:27am On Jan 13, 2018

Yawn

Christianity Etc › Re: My 2 Year Old Daughter Got Raped While My Dad Was Home. -HARDMIRROR by budaatum: 9:38pm On Jan 12, 2018

DoctorAlien:
I'm just gonna drop this here:

"We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one." 1 Jn. 5:19

Yep. The devil raped his daughter. God just did nothing.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why People Are Atheists? by budaatum: 9:24pm On Jan 12, 2018

pesty100:
tamethem should just make a video and paste it on YouTube i don't think he needs any nairaland atheists to prove his point.

Or he could just go put the spell on atheists anyway. Its not like we'd have to touch or eat anything, or would we? You just throw the juju and it catches whoever you want it to, no?

Christianity Etc › Re: Dear God, Why... by budaatum: 8:04pm On Jan 12, 2018

ScienceWatch:
Good !
To answer your question: Start by asking asking, "how do I find evidence of God's love for humanity?"
Then go bravely forward, work hard to find that evidence no matter where it may be found.

Make sure every good thing you see is claimed for god. And everything that is bad is from the devil. Switch off your brain when in doubt, it is the devil putting thoughts in your head! And follow the advise given to Alice:

"I can't believe that!" said Alice.
"Can't you?" the Queen said in a pitying tone. "Try again: draw a long breath, and shut your eyes."
Alice laughed. "There's no use trying," she said: "one can't believe impossible things."
"I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."

Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There (1871)

And you will be a believer, indeed.

Christianity Etc › Re: Dear God, Why... by budaatum: 7:52pm On Jan 12, 2018

ScienceWatch:
Your attitude towards your parents have everything to do with this. A selfish person tends to accuse others of selfishness when he cant get his own way.

Same way ignorant you project your ignorance on everyone else?

Christianity Etc › Re: Dear God, Why... by budaatum: 1:51pm On Jan 12, 2018*

During the testimony, the woman fell on her knees. She appeared to praise God, but in her mind was asking for forgiveness. The pressure had simply been too much. Her mother-in-law had threatened her with another woman, her sibling-in-laws had made snide remarks, her own parents had shown pity and sorrow, the entire community had prayed for her, that stupid house girl had tempted her husband, and time was running out. Was that not meno she saw pausing just the other day? Soon she will be Sarah's age. Surely, If God can bless Sarah, he can bless me too. So she had done what Abraham did. And God had blessed her.

O Lord my God just forgive me", she prayed that day, "do not let it be known that the child really belongs to Chukwudi".

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm An Atheist That Thinks That Premarital Sex Is Wrong. Is This Unusual? by budaatum: 12:52pm On Jan 12, 2018

urahara:
I'm sure if I were born abroad, i wouldn't have had this sort of conservative view

Decent view, you mean. What about being born abroad would stop you respecting women? Would your parents have taught you otherwise perhaps? Here's something to consider:

How are women treated in Nigeria?

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm An Atheist That Thinks That Premarital Sex Is Wrong. Is This Unusual? by budaatum: 1:57am On Jan 12, 2018

urahara:
No good reason

I just kind of cant imagine such a thing being done to my sisters. I start feeling guilty

It tends to be the view of those who have sisters. You treat every woman as if your ma gave birth to them. You would not want to do to others what you wouldn't want done to yours. Maybe there really is that "Vestiges of your pre-atheist religious nurture" NPComplete mentioned.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm An Atheist That Thinks That Premarital Sex Is Wrong. Is This Unusual? by budaatum: 1:51am On Jan 12, 2018

NPComplete:
Vestiges of your pre-atheist religious nurture. Trust me, if u had been raised in an environment or religion that lauds and rewards premarital sex you would be far less inclined to dislike it.

That's like saying the reason one does not steal is due to "Vestiges of your pre-atheist religious nurture", and that if one had lived in a den of thieves.........

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Christianity Etc › Re: Separate Conscious Entity That Transcends The Universe by budaatum(op): 1:39am On Jan 12, 2018

And here is Chopra’s woo philosophy:

It was only with the advent of quantum physics that scientists began to consider again the old question of the possibility of comprehending the world as a form of mind.
Indeed, the quantum theory implies that consciousness must exist, and that the content of the mind is the ultimate reality

The universe is a mind, and consciousness is the ultimate reality. Not surprisingly, a very Eastern philosophy, packaged nicely for a Western audience.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why People Are Atheists? by budaatum: 12:49am On Jan 12, 2018

Be careful what you wish for, Dr. Dossey, you just might get it

If there’s one thing about the so-called “complementary and alternative medicine” (CAM) movement that I’ve emphasized time and time again, it’s that its adherents have a definite love-hate relationship with science. They hate it because it is the single greatest threat to their beliefs system and the pseudoscience that underlies it. At the same time, they crave the legitimacy that science confers. They crave it not because they have any great love for science. Quite the contrary. It is simply that they recognize that science actually delivers the goods. Of course, they believe that they deliver the goods too, but they come to this belief not through science but rather through all the cognitive shortcomings and biases to which humans are prone, such as confusing correlation with causation, confirmation bias, not recognizing regression to the mean, and being fooled by the placebo effect. Whether it’s through a misunderstanding of science or less innocent reasons, they go to great lengths to torture it into superficially appearing to support their claims through a combination of cherry-picking of studies that seem to support them and misrepresenting ones that don’t, discussions of which abound right here in this very blog.

The other thing I’ve emphasized about the CAM movement is that, even more than scientific credibility, they crave legitimacy. To them, however, science is but one pathway to legitimacy, because, unlike practitioners of science-based medicine, they are more than willing to bypass science to obtain the legitimacy–or at least the appearance of the legitimacy–they so crave. If it means doing an end run around science by trying to hijack the Obama health insurance reform bill that is currently being negotiated to resolve the differences between the Senate and House versions, so be it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why People Are Atheists? by budaatum: 8:24pm On Jan 11, 2018

ScienceWatch:
But what if the observers were to have a different vantage point, for example from Mars. will they be able to see who the fool is? What if the fool dont use the word foolish?

You just trust them, or not, it doesn't really matter. They have independent minds of their with which they reason.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why People Are Atheists? by budaatum: 8:21pm On Jan 11, 2018

ScienceWatch:
I agree with you. I hope they dont think it is you.

They have independent minds. They will think what they will think.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why People Are Atheists? by budaatum: 8:20pm On Jan 11, 2018

butterflyl1on:
Even a dummy would see from what you posted that he is speaking from first hand experience.

budaatum:
But I know you'd come up with some invisible pool like rational to claim you were right.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why People Are Atheists? by budaatum: 8:18pm On Jan 11, 2018

pesty100:
I also don't think that the purpose is to determine who the fool is?

It isn't. But observers will see who the fool is, especially if the fool goes about calling others foolish.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why People Are Atheists? by budaatum: 8:03pm On Jan 11, 2018

pesty100:
there is absolutely no way I can win you when it comes to yapping nonsense. You win my friend

Please, don't think the purpose is to win. It's a public forum so people read what you write, and can decide for themselves who the fool is. It is rather self evident, to say the least.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why People Are Atheists? by budaatum: 7:59pm On Jan 11, 2018

butterflyl1on:
He is not asking you come to ife based on his friends say so but based on his own say so because he has witnessed it by himself. If he has not witnessed it would he be asking you to come?

Why are you afraid? Fear is all over what you are typing. Tell that fear to leave you alone so you can prove atheism in a concrete manner.

All talk and no action had always been the atheists way and you all are confirming it here.

See how the guy is seriously calling you all out and you are seriously giving excuses

Mr Orolu Kingdom, ile Ife is calling you o.

Really?

tamethem:
My guy many of you guys are empty bragging cowards.
I am a Christian and I guess I shouldn't be saying what I am about saying but the claims of your likes gets me annoyed and I think you guys need to be taught some life lessons.

You claim there is no God because you can't see Him and He would not reveal himself and you can't feel Him. But if you wanna feel the devil you will because he is cheap.

All you NL atheist should garther yourselves and get set to know if voodoo charms and witchcraft are real just pick a date and say bye bye to your families. I have a friend who is not a Christian who grew up in Ile Ife and very close to the typical locals with some powers that don't exist according to you guys, I would just tell him to take you guys to Ife and straight to some babas who just by their words from a distance without touching you would make all of you go blind for the rest of your lives or even make you dry up on the spot. And you may not return alive or may return half dead. Just make sure you have written your wills and give your last words before leaving home.

By the time you see the wonders of the devil in your lives no one would convince you to believe in God.

Please do a meeting reach a conclusion and get back to me. I mean this.

But I know you'd come up with some invisible pool like rational to claim you were right.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christ Is Not Under Attack, Christianity Is by budaatum: 6:29pm On Jan 11, 2018

I'm going to throw it out there that there is nothing particularly so bad about Christianity itself, since it's aim is to make people Christ like. So perhaps it is Christians who are under attack as there is nothing particularly Christ like about the louder ones. Many lack Christ's scepticism, for instance

(I confess that I have met many silent Christ like people.)

Christianity Etc › Re: Why People Are Atheists? by budaatum: 5:49pm On Jan 11, 2018

tamethem:
Lol

Coward

Go hide your face.

Continue to show your's.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why People Are Atheists? by budaatum: 4:40pm On Jan 11, 2018

tamethem:
My guy when I see a coward from a distance I recognize them.

Your Orolu kingdom voodoo is nothing but a scam.
this is one of the reasons why you don't believe there are potent charms. I will help you get true Kids of the Devil with undiluted powers of darkness. Trust me

Your friend's juju must have assisted you in coming to that conclusion I guess, since you yourself have not witnessed this juju you claim is real. Are you like sw perhaps, who posts what other people get to write for him?

Please go to Ile Ife to ascertain for yourself what you believe is true. I myself am not willing to go to Ile Ife on your friends' say so since I've already witnessed such stuff myself.

Christianity Etc › Re: Finally, To The Atheist/ Big Bang Guys. by budaatum: 4:33pm On Jan 11, 2018

tartar9:
All of mathematics which can be used to model and predict the outcomes within any sort of universe no matter how complex that universe or the mathematics used for its description could be,is itself derived from the most basic propositions which they call axioms.
That extreme complexity could be birthed out of extreme simplicity is itself the logical norm.
Does this displace the notion of a creator? Not at all!
God can work through means or without means.

All of ~~mathematics~~ the ideas which can be used to model and predict the outcomes within any sort of universe no matter how complex that universe or the ideas used for its description could be, is itself derived from the most basic propositions which they call axioms.
That extreme complexity could be birthed out of extreme simplicity is itself the logical norm.

Does this displace the notion of a [idea] creator? Not at all!
~~God~~ Ideas can work through means or without means.

Basically mathematics, and gods, are simple means of explaining the universe. They don't necessarily exist in their own rights as concrete entities nor may they necessarily be true axioms (though, in mathematics, they must follow established rules and are not subjective). One may mathematically add a simple 5 Naira to another 5 Naira, but it does not necesarily allow you to purchase anything worth 10 Naira or less.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why People Are Atheists? by budaatum: 3:17pm On Jan 11, 2018

There was a guy who promised to go prove juju existed. Said he'll post photos and video but never did so the thread got closed. If anyone finds the link please, so tamethem knows his juvenile challenge is not the first.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why People Are Atheists? by budaatum: 3:13pm On Jan 11, 2018

ScienceWatch:
Tamethem spoke only the truth. Do not be afraid.
I have sat down and listened to many shocking, personal, live testimonies of people of Ifon Osun and Ile Ife. The powers of Juju, Witchcraft etc are very real. There is no question about this. Atheists have been scammed by corrupt scientists to worship superstitious scientific theories about the reality of the spiritual world.

Well, at least you agree I don't have to go to Ile Ife to witness juju or witchcraft since we have enough of it in the Orolu Kingdom, which you know I've been to.

For fear of spoiling my people's business, it's a great source of revenue and will be so long as gullible people like you continue to exist. By the way, a recent visit showed they are evolving by incorporating Jesu Kristi and Muhammadu Rasulillahi into their incantations. My people no de discriminate.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why People Are Atheists? by budaatum: 2:41pm On Jan 11, 2018

And my point is you, actually, are the coward, as you simply fear what you have read but not observed.

Why don't you go to Ile Ife to witness what you are afraid of so you can have evidence yourself instead of relying on hearsay or what you read in a book.

I repeat, I am from the Orolu Kingdom, I don't have to go to Ile Ife to witness juju. We have it in Ifon Osun and its a good source of income for my people.

tamethem:
It's either you didnt get my point or you are trying as usual to be stubborn in your ignorance.

The fact that I believe the devil exist doesn't make me one of the worshipers. And that I believe charm works doesn't make me a charmer all I'm saying is you guys are Cowards.

I did not believe that charm works because someone told me but I believe because my Bible tells me. So get that understood.

I am a man of few words my guy.

Make yourselves available and I will proof to you guys Charm works just say your last words to your family members.

Since you don't believe it exists you need not to be afraid and telling me I should be the one to go to Ife shows how Chicken hearted you are. I am not the one claiming it doesn't exist you guys are.

Gather yourselves say your last bye bye and let's fix a date.

It's either you don't come back alive or you come disabled.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why People Are Atheists? by budaatum: 12:18am On Jan 11, 2018

tamethem:
All you NL atheist should garther yourselves and get set to know if voodoo charms and witchcraft are real just pick a date and say bye bye to your families. I have a friend who is not a Christian who grew up in Ile Ife and very close to the typical locals with some powers that don't exist according to you guys, .

You are the classical example for people becoming atheists. You have not seen voodoo or witchcraft but believe it because your friend told you it is real. I assume another friend told you god is real, which is why you believe it?

I suggest you go to Ile Ife and report back what you observe with your own eyes please. I myself come from the Orolu Kingdom. We are well steeped in juju and witchcraft. It is a huge source of revenue due to 419 scams.

Christianity Etc › Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by budaatum: 10:58pm On Jan 10, 2018

sonofluc1fer:
But would he? It wouldn't be in his nature. Those who litter his path with likes and shares are safe from his scrutiny. He fails to admit his wrongs, he is also reluctant to correct his comrades. Unity over truth, brotherhood over reason, he'd rather win an argument than learn something new.

I love him though.

I love him too. He's one of the very few semi-intelligent ones, he's not as obnoxious as some of his comrades, and the place gets boring when he's not around. As to whether he would, he has no choice. He either evolves or he becomes extinct.

Christianity Etc › Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by budaatum: 10:11pm On Jan 10, 2018*

KingEbukasBlog:
I have conceded that I was wrong a few times here - and the discovery was done my own self .

Your ability to discover you are wrong is highly honed I confess, you being one amazingly knowledgeable person. You have however not admitted you were wrong as many times as you have been shown to be wrong, I observe. Neither have you conceded you were wrong as many times as you have realised you are wrong, I assert.

You are like one who sees a thing but covers the eye hoping that thing will be unseen. Worse is that while you manage to convince yourself to unsee what you have seen, you convince yourself that others have not seen - or should want, must (to a much lesser and acceptable extent) or desire to unsee what they have seen. You must be tormented. If you are not, you must be unwell.

It is a pity that the more you dig yourself into your pit the harder it will be to come out of it. I guess you'd need to go to Damascus. I know you have had a change of name in the past. I'll have you consider KingEbukasPaul for the future. Or KingPaulsBlog, if you want to completely disassociate from your past. No one who sees the truth can return back into the darkness. And you, I very strongly believe, are glowing.

Please consider those who go forth with you but who may find it difficult if you were to change direction.

Christianity Etc › Re: Ayo Oritsejafor's Private Jet Grounded At The Airport (Photo) by budaatum: 1:52am On Jan 10, 2018

SalamRushdie:
Those who know know that Oritsejafors jet was mostly on time share rental then at 7000 dollars an hour are shared vost of 3500 dollars and hour but eith the way Buhari has mismanaged the economy there are very few businessmen that rent jets now so the explains why the the plane is wasting away in some airport ..This is actually another indictement of the poor leadership of Buhari and not some news to gloat about ..Please not I am not a fan of Oritsejafor but we must uphold the truth at all times

Its actually evidence that theft of government funds with which these thieves bought and funded their jets has been stopped under Buhari's regime. But who cared where the money came from, as long as you chopped you own, right?!

Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by budaatum: 1:04am On Jan 10, 2018

johnydon22:
Frosbel's case is really a very good case study here how dangerous it is for any religious person to encounter atheists no matter how strong they think their belief is..

frosbel is a good example

We all at one point were top notch core religionists and theists but along the line the thunder struck..

Frosbel was one top debater against atheists here on NL, we don't have anybody here now that can match that, his aggressiveness during his days.. He was a pain then, i only watched as a guest then though.

then slowly the emergence of reason started, the little seeds of doubt and question his endless encounters with atheists culminated and germinated into a tree..

even though they might sound aggressive and all that, it is expected for a dearly held idea to be aggressive towards a new contradicting one but some things never remain same.

some way along the line, it may take years but they will one day ask one question as an effect from the debates with atheists.

and from there the slow painful and lonely hard journey begins ...

thats why i always maintain: it's dangerous for anyone with a belief in deities to debate an atheist, it might take a very long time but that tiny mustered seed of doubt must be planted.

so when debating, do not argue to win an argument or argue endlessly, it is needless and infantile..

Simple make your points and be done with it, all needed is just 1 tiny seed of doubt, natural curiosity takes over..

the result is always ......... You know it

Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by budaatum: 12:45am On Jan 10, 2018

fashmania:
this really got me laughing. I was chatting with a female friend yesterday. they had a vigil in her church on Friday. so I asked her on Saturday if she remembered to pray for me too and she answered "maybe". so I asked her why maybe, she said she didn't know because she prayed in tongues. So I asked her the difference between praying in tongues and praying using normal languages. she said praying in tongues is better because the devil doesn't know the language. and I was like wtf? so I asked her, if the devil doesn't understand the language, how come you guys chase demons out with the same language? her response was "you can't understand". what's so difficult to understand in that?

She didn't understand angry

Christianity Etc › Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by budaatum: 12:37am On Jan 10, 2018

I am laughing my head off!

HardMirror:
CONTINUATION...
CURIORITY and DARING TO QUESTION GOD

The christian God is regarded as a FATHER NOT a SLAVE MASTER.
I took God as my father. I discuss anything and everything with him. He was a friend I loved so much. We had a one on one relationship.
This meant I could ask God any question
I am a practical person, I don't just hear the word, I do the word.
People in the bible had chats with God and He is my father and friend so why should I not ask God questions and why should he not answer?
So ask God sincere questions

1. My Number one problem: We are to preach to all nations and make sure people don't perish
I and many christians I know were trying our absolute best to depopulate hell as fast as possible. To make sure people don't just hear the word BUT they actually get saved.
Someone asked why I pray for at least 12hours. It was because of the burden I carried. The burden of soul winning. It was terrifying that many were going to end up in hell and burn forever! if you are a christian and you believe people will end up in hell and you don't preach and try to win souls everyday YOU ARE WORSE THAN BOKO HARAM. FACT!
How can you have peace of mind and sleep at night knowing you hold the secret to eternal life in your hands and you are comfortable? How dear you buy luxuries when you can put that money into soul winning? How can you be asking God for more money, when you should pick up your bag and preach. How can you be asking God to pick up your call so you too can drive Range Rover?
It started becoming apparent that even God was a wicked God. Why?

-so he is all loving, loves humanity more than any man could ever love another man. More than an earthly father would love his son. YET God would let people perish in hell for even telling a lie no matter why you tell the lie or how small it is?

- so the best a God can do is to send humans to preach His word?

Oh wait! Seems you don't understand Jesus died in Jerusalem for the sins of the WHOLE world and If anyone dies without christ he was going to end in Hell. Wait! Do you know how many People would have died in Africa, South America, Australia, China, India, europe, before the Gospel reached them? Do you know how many people die per day?
[b]
So all these people will go to hell? The clever answer will be NO, the won't go to hell because they did not know. Oh! So if they won't go to hell because they were ignorant, why preach the gospel to them and make them informed and now if they die with the tiniest of sin without christ they end in hell. Why not leave them ignorant so their souls can be saved based on their ignorance.

How long did it take for the gospel of christ to reach the whole world? Is god truely the God of the whole world or of Jews? [/b]

It did not just add up.
This whole gospel thing started to crumble the more I thought of it.

That is just a tip of the questions I began to ask God. Of course he had no answer. The same God that reveals other peoples issues to me could not answer this.

continued here: https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/17#45231153

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