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Christianity Etc › Re: ' Atheist Professor ' Gets Embarrassed By Superior Logical Thinker by budaatum: 2:01am On Dec 26, 2017

We have more than enough to work with here without the swimming, so lets crack on. Oh, and I appreciate the suspension of the insults. Merry Christmas.

So your baby is a new born baby. I get you. As you mention, "Baby has zero knowledge as a baby and his observation is a mindless one as its actions are more automated than intelligent to start with."

Now consider the following: Baby has zero ~~knowledge~~ belief as a baby and his ~~observation~~ existence is a mindless one as its actions are more automated than intelligent to start with.

Why does the 'mindless new born baby' that has zero knowledge not have zero belief?

Does the 'mindless new born baby' require belief to perform its automated actions?

Or, in another sense, what belief does a 'mindless new born baby' have?

For clarity, could you post the definition of belief you are working with here.

butterflyl1on:
Wrong again.

Baby has no idea who mummy is and here is proof. Any other woman can place a tit in babys mouth and baby would gladly accept it. Baby asks no questions just has a hardwired set of commands such as eat, cry, shït and sleep (in no particular order).

Take a baby away from its birth mother and placed under the care of another who isn't and watch baby welcome mummy number 2 also without asking questions. Why do you think babies who are adopted at such a tender age never get to find our UNLESS they are told that they were adopted?

Baby has zero knowledge as a baby and his observation is a mindless one as its actions are more automated than intelligent to start with. THEY SIMPLY JUST HAVE A BELIEF OF WHAT IS NEEDED TO BE DONE. just like when in some traditions they toss a baby into water at birth and a baby instinctively begins to swim. They not only begin to swim but they also hold their breathe and open their eyes immediately while in the water. Care to share with me the observation that brought the knowledge of swimming and what to do while in the water upon a new born baby.

Christianity Etc › Re: ' Atheist Professor ' Gets Embarrassed By Superior Logical Thinker by budaatum: 9:32pm On Dec 25, 2017

butterflyl1on:
They hold beliefs not based on Knowledge but based on OBSERVATION.

Baby acquires knowledge (this is mummy) through observation (she puts tit in my mouth) and then forms a belief (I trust mummy) from that knowledge (mummy! mummy!)

Observation is of external stimuli. It is the knowledge on which a belief of trust is based on. If belief were wired in, a baby will not differentiate between mummy and stranger, but baby does differentiate.

Try to see what one is saying rather than seek opportunity to just insult. Someone might just learn from you!

OBSERVATION is a form of knowledge!

Christianity Etc › Re: ' Atheist Professor ' Gets Embarrassed By Superior Logical Thinker by budaatum: 8:23pm On Dec 25, 2017

You may think up things in your head, imagine it to be true and call it 'knowledge' just like I do when I imagine I have a million pounds in my bank account. I swear its there, waiting for me to spend it. External stimuli may not agree with me though.

So which comes first, the thing one believes or the knowledge that leads one to believe a thing? Does one acquire a belief without first knowing what to believe?

Your second question has no meaning! Knowledge is not triggered through belief!

All that is by the side. Beliefs are not inherited! If they were, you would not be a Christian!

butterflyl1on:
Google indeed can not even help you get a much needed intelligence boost. Gettier problem does not hold true and is simply an opinion. See me logically thinking for myself without recourse to google but you had to jump on someone else's opinion. Shows how illogical you lot are.

Question? How is knowledge acquired in the absence of external stimuli?

Question? How as a child can observation trigger knowledge through belief?

If you can answer these questions then your zero intelligence would rise up and shock you.

Christianity Etc › Re: ' Atheist Professor ' Gets Embarrassed By Superior Logical Thinker by budaatum: 6:16pm On Dec 25, 2017

JackBizzle:
What is this one saying?

How can beliefs be inherited? Whether religious or non religious beliefs, they can't be inherited. Did you inherit any beliefs from your dad?

Lol....you are making my Christmas merry with your entertaining foolishness.

He obviously hasn't heard of Gettier problem

Christianity Etc › Re: Egyptian Parliament (allegedly) Moves To Make Atheism A Crime by budaatum(op): 2:10am On Dec 25, 2017

johnydon22:
LOL.... I do not think people go around with the tag of "atheist" around their neck..

Especially not in a country where they are waiting to crucify one.

ScienceWatch did you notice the type of people who support your view!

Christianity Etc › Re: Merry Christmas Nairalanders - 2017 by budaatum: 1:55am On Dec 25, 2017

Merry Christmas Everyone.

Christianity Etc › Egyptian Parliament (allegedly) Moves To Make Atheism A Crime by budaatum(op): 8:44pm On Dec 24, 2017

The Egyptian parliament's committee on religion has announced plans to make disbelief in God a crime. Under the current law against "contempt of religions" atheists can be prosecuted for expressing their disbelief in public but the committee's proposal would go further and criminalise disbelief itself.

In 2014, little more than a week after Abdel-Fattah el-Sisi was sworn in as Egypt’s president, the government announced that it was preparing a national plan to “confront and eliminate” atheism. A few months later Al-Shabab, a government-linked newspaper, stated that atheists were “the country’s second enemy after the Muslim Brotherhood”, and quoted a psychologist saying that “atheism leads to mental imbalances and paranoia”.

As part of its effort to suppress the Muslim Brotherhood the Sisi regime began promoting a version of Islam that is often characterised as “moderate” – though “militantly mainstream” might be a better term. Theologically speaking it is middle-of the-road and relatively bland but, like the regime itself, it is also authoritarian in character.

The result of this is a kind of enforced centrism. While allowing some scope for tolerance – of other monotheistic religions, for example – it confines religious discourse to the middle ground. While the main purpose of this is to sideline Islamist theology, at the other end of the spectrum it has led to atheism, scepticism and liberal interpretations of Islam being treated as forms of extremism.

Saudi Arabia adopted a similar position in 2014 when “promotion of atheist thought” became officially classified as an act of terrorism.

Atheism in the Arab countries is generally viewed by the public with horror – so to some extent the Egyptian regime is playing a populist card. Small and relatively defenceless minorities such as atheists are an easy target and portraying them as a threat to the nation's well-being helps to divert attention from the regime's failings. A similar process was seen in Egypt recently with the moral panic over homosexuality and rainbow flags.

An article in Rose al-Yusuf quotes Amr Hamroush, a member of the parliamentary committee, as saying legislation is needed in order to close down all atheist websites since their ideas "destroy the values of society".

However, even in Egypt the proposal is proving controversial. The article goes on to quote others who point out that while laws can control people's behaviour, they cannot change people's beliefs.

Source
Further verification required.

Christianity Etc › Re: 22 Year Study States Atheism In A Mental Disease? by budaatum(op): 8:25pm On Dec 24, 2017

Don't you like your own medicine? You go about insulting everyone, trolling every thread thinking others can't do the same to you? Now you want to pass it off as humour? After making false derogatory comments about one all over the place?

No, I am not laughing! All you have to do to get me to stop is you just post excerpts from the response you claim you got from Google, or admit there is no study and that you posted unverifiable comments from some crackpot's site . And perhaps grow up a little? Or don't you really realise the 'whole world' can see what you do?

Merry Christmas to you too. My regards to your girl.

ScienceWatch:
It is festive season BudaAtum.
I wish you and your family a truly blessed Season. May all your dreams come true. May your elbows be greased !!

Oh my girl says thanks. Remember you told her that she deserves better.

ScienceWatch:
Hey you are here too BudaAtum. You are everywhere like authorized TROLLING.
AAaaaaaaaaaaaH ! Do you have a sense of humour?
Just a friendly reminder Sir, you are ducking and diving from Kingebukasblog's simple challenge. Man up and signup so we can witness the truth about you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is A Mental Illness :charles Darwin, Sigmund Freud, Thomas Henry Huxley by budaatum: 7:58pm On Dec 24, 2017

ScienceWatch:
Could there be any truth in the frightening results of the German scientific study of 18,000 atheists ?

Post the response from Google about your 22 year study please.

Christianity Etc › Re: ' Atheist Professor ' Gets Embarrassed By Superior Logical Thinker by budaatum: 7:39pm On Dec 24, 2017

JackBizzle:
Did you inherit your belief in God or Christianity from your parents?

Kingebukasblog ati butterflyl1on come and carry your dumb troll commot.

Cc felixomor

He has no shame!

Christianity Etc › Re: ' Atheist Professor ' Gets Embarrassed By Superior Logical Thinker by budaatum: 7:38pm On Dec 24, 2017

ScienceWatch:
He falsely claims that, "The first problem is that beliefs are not inherited traits. What a joke.

Do you want to challenge me on this BudaAtum ?

So, beliefs are inherited ko? Is that why you worship the gods of your forefathers?

We already have a challenge. Post the response from Google about your 22 year study please.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Do Christians Think Of Homo Neanderthals? by budaatum: 6:54pm On Dec 24, 2017

urahara:
Loooooool

I am starting to think that science watch is not an actual person

May be the account is a trolling computer virus.

Then the creator of the trolling computer virus should do us all a favour and switch the damn thing off.

Or perhaps I should practise ignoring it!

Christianity Etc › Re: ' Atheist Professor ' Gets Embarrassed By Superior Logical Thinker by budaatum: 6:50pm On Dec 24, 2017

ScienceWatch:
He falsely claims that, "The first problem is that beliefs are not inherited traits. What a joke.

You really need to stop insulting your parents. They cannot be responsible for the level of stupidity you exhibit!

Christianity Etc › Re: 22 Year Study States Atheism In A Mental Disease? by budaatum(op): 6:23pm On Dec 24, 2017

ScienceWatch:
Just look at yourself in the mirror. This is the same tactics you have repeatedly used on the esteemed Nairalander Kingebukasblog. Very distasteful to say the least. You have not provided any proof that I asked for.

ScienceWatch (sw), I strongly believe that you operate on the premise that people are generally stupid, or you wouldn't think others cannot see through your imbecilic charade on here. I advice you look over your own post and see what you sound like. Or better, imagine someone else wrote all you've written and ask yourself what you'd think of such a person. You are like a two year old throwing a tantrum in a supermarket because mummy would not let you have your way.

I do not think keb could agree with you that I've used any antics against him. He is way too intelligent to agree with statements that can easily be shown to be false. In fact, keb will be agonising that you mention his name so much as, in my opinion, you make him more ridiculous than any atheist can. If I were keb, I would have pmed you to shut up already as you are doing him more harm than good.

As a side, I have been requesting evidence for your 22 year study since October. Please post a link to your post where you asked me for proof of anything so people can see when and what it was that you asked proof for.

While many have humoured you, I expect by now you have exhausted their patience and they will tell you what they really think of you. We got to save a brother from killing himself after all, you poor sod.

Christianity Etc › Re: 22 Year Study States Atheism In A Mental Disease? by budaatum(op): 5:58pm On Dec 24, 2017

ScienceWatch:
You behave like the Gestapo..... shouting give me proof or else. Give me evidence or else.

Stop calling me a liar. Stop your Gestapo tactics and demand my Google emails.

No one with sense would say my behaviour is gestapo like. In fact, I believe people would see you as the gestapo with your incessant trolling and your unfounded allegations which you very well know to be false.

I repeat, you claimed Google responded to you when you wrote them. Show me evidence for your 22 year study or post the response you claim Google sent you please.

Christianity Etc › Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by budaatum: 12:37pm On Dec 24, 2017

ScienceWatch:
Reporting back on behalf of 4kings Sir !!!!

Report back on your own behalf. Provide evidence of your 22 year study or that you contacted Google about it.

Christianity Etc › Re: ' Atheist Professor ' Gets Embarrassed By Superior Logical Thinker by budaatum: 11:18am On Dec 24, 2017

superhumanist:
Are you this shameless?

Yes he actually is!

Christianity Etc › Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by budaatum: 10:54am On Dec 24, 2017

4kings:
But in any case, it's just hard to believe that your IQ is below 50.

You haven't engaged with him long enough. Read some of his postings and report back please.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 22 Year Study States Atheism In A Mental Disease? by budaatum(op): 10:48am On Dec 24, 2017

ScienceWatch:
You are praying to have me banned.

Go ahead BudaAtum, ban me. !

To be honest, I would love to ban you. You troll every thread and drag it into the gutter with your incessant imbecility and lies. But the site does not belong to me.

I will however check the rules to see if trolling and or lying are grounds for a ban. Nairaland will be a better place without the likes of you around.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Do Christians Think Of Homo Neanderthals? by budaatum: 2:33am On Dec 24, 2017

CandidSeeker:
Genesis 1:26 KJV
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

'God' seem to be telling the other 'entities'present about making a new kind of man (different from the ones they are all aware of) that will have his own 'likeness' and 'image'.

A more intelligent sort, with consciousness.

I like your reasoning.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Do Christians Think Of Homo Neanderthals? by budaatum: 2:21am On Dec 24, 2017

urahara:
na me mess up fah

I shouldn't have mentioned him.

Na mistake. A costly one, but don't beat yourself up. You now know for the future.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 22 Year Study States Atheism In A Mental Disease? by budaatum(op): 12:58am On Dec 24, 2017

ScienceWatch:
You will have better luck than me. Go speak to Google. Remember to ask if they got my emails. From this point on, Dont speak to me, speak to my attorney.

So, are you admitting there is no study proving what you claim a study proves, and that you have never been in touch with Google about the study?

Are you admitting that you are a liar?

Christianity Etc › Re: 22 Year Study States Atheism In A Mental Disease? by budaatum(op): 4:53pm On Dec 23, 2017

ScienceWatch:
Meaningful apologies is good. Listen up now. I have the email communication between myself and Google admin about that alleged 22yr clinical study that Atheism is a mental disease in my mail box. Meanwhile be satisfied that the entire internet is flooded with same "allegations."

I am not satisfied. You have shown sufficient evidence for any one with an ounce of sense to distrust anything you say.

Please post extracts of those emails from Google admin so I can be certain that you even wrote to Google at all.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 22 Year Study States Atheism In A Mental Disease? by budaatum(op): 4:49pm On Dec 23, 2017

ScienceWatch:
It is interesting indeed that you have made many claims on the web without proof.

Stop making false allegations. Show evidence for claims I make without proof.

Christianity Etc › Re: 22 Year Study States Atheism In A Mental Disease? by budaatum(op): 11:31am On Dec 23, 2017

ScienceWatch:
No problem BudaAtum. Before I send you my personal emails, it should be in order for me to ask you some proof of identity?

You do not have to include your personal details. I am willing to accept the body of the emails you received. Delete all personal details in the emails please and post here.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 22 Year Study States Atheism In A Mental Disease? by budaatum(op): 10:42am On Dec 23, 2017

ScienceWatch:
About Google admin, they sent me from pillar to post trying to track the removal of publication that ATHEISM is a mental disease.
After a few emails Google asked us to be patient as it is not a normal part of their public service.

The evidence will be ready soon.

Please send me evidence of Google admin sending you from "pillar to post". A copy of the emails they sent you would do.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Much Hell Do I Get? by budaatum(op): 1:48am On Dec 23, 2017

budaatum:
Socrates would not agree, and he wasn't expensive.

To discuss with the wise is seeking to know and become wise too!

To argue with a fool is stupid and a bloody waste of time.

Christianity Etc › Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by budaatum: 1:42am On Dec 23, 2017

ScienceWatch:
oK. Sorry.

There's no need for an apology.
Where's the stuff I ask you for please?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by budaatum: 7:51pm On Dec 22, 2017

Where's what I asked you for please?

ScienceWatch:
has actually managed to get a country to legalize

Satire /ˈsatʌɪə/
noun
the use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 22 Year Study States Atheism In A Mental Disease? by budaatum(op): 5:28pm On Dec 22, 2017

ScienceWatch:
Ok Sir, you have lost faith in me because Google is a pain in the neck. Their admin is slow to respond. Or is there another side to this?

You did say they sent you a response.
Post the response from Google please.

Christianity Etc › Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by budaatum: 5:27pm On Dec 22, 2017

ScienceWatch:
Ok Sir, you have lost faith in me because Google is a pain in the neck. Their admin is slow to respond. Or is there another side to this?

You may believe any reason you wish to believe.
You did say they sent you a response.
Post the response from Google please.

Christianity Etc › Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by budaatum: 4:18pm On Dec 22, 2017

ScienceWatch:
The post is a satire as Kingebukasblog said.

Wasn't that the point of posting it?

By the way, please post me a response you got from Google regarding the request you said you made. I've lost faith in you and need evidence you actually bothered to ask them.

And save the ass licking tirade.

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