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butterflyl1on:
You are clearly missing the point so let me narrow it down for you in a simple way.

butterflyl1on:
Can there be any objective evidence without a subjective presentation?

butterflyl1on:
Can objectivity [things] exist on its own without a subjective interference or inclusion?

butterflyl1on:
Let me specifically focus on your tree analogy here.

Can your objective tree that fell bear witness of itself without a subjective viewer?

butterflyl1on:
Can all subjective viewers offer same narration of how this objective tree fell if they were all viewing from different angles?

butterflyl1on:
IF THERE WAS NO SUBJECTIVE VIEWER IN EXISTENCE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD WOULD OBJECTIVITY EXIST?

butterflyl1on:
Objectivity is a product of a subjective source. Take it or leave it.

hopefulLandlord:
There is resemblance and you don't get to wish it away on a whim, its you that needs to study your reply to my first question and see how you unsuccessfully tried to move the goalposts when I asked the next

Q: is it possible to be 6ft tall without having a dick?

vaxx: No!

Q: are you saying there are no 6ft tall females?

Question 2 does follow from the answer to question 1 or do you need your fellow theists to explain this to you? cuz I notice you guys tend to agree and disagree based on who's saying something rather than what the person is saying

butterflyl1on:
You are the one talking about proof for a fallen tree when no observer or listener was present. While I am telling you that the observer need not be present to witness or hear the tree when it fell and that regardless of this, it is still the subjective observer who would still see the aftermath of this tree that fell to know that ONCE UPON A TIME a tree fell in that forest, in that very spot and if it was a large tree trunk then it must have made a hell of a noise on its way down.

I only agree with you that a tree fell not because I witnessed it but because I saw its aftermath so whether I saw it or heard it, the subjective end has justified the beginning.

Fvcknames:
Can the Christians in the thread not disagree with anything sciencewatch says.
Because he's a Christian, you are Christians and are arguing against atheists, that doesn't mean you'll agree with everything he says.
There's no way you can't at least find a few statements he makes ridiculous.

ScienceWatch:
But you have to understand that I am trying to find objective evidence of your remembrance that Vaxx reminds you of a tree that fell in the forest.

butterflyl1on:
No! A tree fell and I never saw or heard its fall so as to describe

1. What made it fall

2. How many branches broke off while falling and in what order.

3. How long ago it fell.

However I got to the forest and saw tree trunks littered everywhere as proof that this object actually fell.

I the subject gave credence to the object. So as vaxx said, objective evidence is a subjective process. ONLY the subject can validate or invalidate the object.

hopefulLandlord:
I wasn't talking to you sir

ScienceWatch:
I refuse to believe that a tree fell in a forest, if I cant see it falling myself. There must be another reason why it is lying on the ground when I finally got there. No Sir Seeing is believing, hearing is no evidence.

butterflyl1on:
The presence or lack thereof of an observer does not alter the fact that a tree fell in the forest. You may not have witnessed or heard the falling of the tree but the evidence of trees lying all over the floor of the forest is proof of an experience you never witnessed.

butterflyl1on:
The presence or lack thereof of an observer does not alter the fact that a tree fell in the forest. You may not have witnessed or heard the falling of the tree but the evidence of trees lying all over the floor of the forest is proof of an experience you never witnessed.

vaxx:
A non believer of GOD to me is worst than an ingrate

vaxx:
As far as I can tell, there is only subjectivity. Objectivity evidence is a hypothetical state of knowledge that is impossible to verify.

butterflyl1on:
The olodo rabata is actually you (as always).

If you check definition 4 and 5 on what religion is you will see how atheism is a religion.

Number 4 says "any practice that someone or some group is seriously devoted to.

Are you devoted to atheism and the practices they come with like

1. No harm in premarital sex
2. Deception is cool if you can get away with it.
3. Life is nothing but to live and die since there is no after life
And so on. Are atheists devoted to these things,

solite3:
This thread is not for atheists.
U want me to answer your questions, open a thread.
This thread is to save souls

frosbel2:
This article is further proof that Christianity is a SHAM.

None of the so called followers of Jesus can control themselves from cursing, judging, insulting and hating. This sort of behaviour is in total opposition to all Jesus stood for.

These dumb sheep will attack anything in 'skirts'. They attack Muslims, atheists, former Christians, other denominations, sects within their own denomination and almost anyone and everyone who comes out, such as Daddy Freeze, to attack their MYTH, FABLE and rampant theft of the money belonging to the poor in the name of the TITHE.

ScienceWatch:
Yes ! The leaders are mostly Atheists.

felixomor:
The worst u could come up with is not even up to the number killed by atheism in Cambodia alone.....
Let alone China....

Shame on your atheism.
You are on a mudslide my dear .....
Atheism is really devastating

felixomor:
Dont go too far most mass murderers in history were atheists.
The list is endless.....
You are on a nihilistic mudslide

Repent before u become a disaster.
Sorry dear
No wonder the mental devastation

ScienceWatch:
The topic is about Young Christian Vs. Young Atheist: Who Is Really Mentally Weak Let me help you here for the benefit of the youth. Not one Niaraland Atheist has an Atheism membership card because they are too selfish to pay and support something they claim they are willing to die for.
Nairaland Atheists are a lousy bunch of unregistered, non Tithing/fee paying, Religion TROLLING, NO-god worshiping, Dark Matter marketing and Black Hole selling dudes. I think I got my point across to the unwary youth. What do you think.

felixomor:
Atheism has been linked to mental devastation.

You are a full proof
Sorry

felixomor:
If u cant counter the thread,
Shift your atheistic foolishness


NEXT PLEASE!

felixomor:
You assume atheists are mentally stronger than Christians.
Abi? Good

And I said demonstrate it.
Period.

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KingEbukasBlog:
You are mixing up so much . I sense so much confusion . The existence of God is one thing and if God inspired the bible is another thing . If all theistic religions are false , it does not in any logical way question God's existence . It simply means God did not inspire the writing of any religious books or the supposed messengers .

butterflyl1on:
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Yet I am the one demanding for the evidence he has?

Don't hold your breath.

salvation101:
r u more knowledgeable dan d examiner? D person who posted the question knew wat he wanted and made it clear here dat he meant it in d literal sense

johnydon22:
This is called the Omnipotence paradox, a nonsensical paradox that shows people the absurdity of nonsensical concepts like Omnipotence

hakeem4:
don’t mind them, they’re just trying to put fear in people’s mind that’s all