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“Where is NNPCL getting the crude to sell to Dangote and other refineries from? This goes to tell Nigerians why the local refineries have not worked for 35 years.

I have always found it amusing when Nigerians claim Nigeria is rich because we have oil. The above shows how poor our nation actually is.

Dangote should buy crude oil wherever he finds it. His refinery is after all large enough to sell outside Nigeria, so getting foreign exchange should not be a problem.

He also should sell in Nigeria at a profit. Sorry folks, but that does mean at likely twice or triple the current price. He after all did not build it as charity to feed anyone.

Brendaniel:
For telling you the truth?

I don't think so

I'm not suffering Brendaniel. So I guess I'll leave you to the "truth" of you wailing about you suffering instead of you being responsible for alleviating your suffering and expecting a messiah to save you.

Brendaniel:
Then why tell me about your wealth in the first place?

Daniel you are becoming boring and pointless.

Kudducini:
I’ll try to do that, I just can’t stop thinking about the backlash and the abusive words I’ll receive esp from his second wife

Don't be blackmailed by her. Her husband likely spent the money he should have invested in his first wife's children to marry her.

Call her children. They too should care for their father!

Kudducini:
I did not call my dad for a week cos I felt there was no point calling when all I would ask is how is your health (maybe I was wrong)

You were wrong not to call. You should have called to show you cared as money is not everything.

You should also have called your siblings to discuss how you'd all raise the money to pay for his healing since you are not the only child and their care is not your sole responsibility. If he died today you wouldn't bury him alone.

Now, apart from that, I so have little regard for parents who did not invest in their children but expect those children to care for them in their old age. Its like planting cocoa you don't tend but expecting a bumper crop. The cocoa tree don't care if you blackmail it with "I planted you", but I guess its not so easy for a child to say to their parents, "you did not invest in me!"

Do not hide from your family how difficult life is for you, and do what you can.

Brendaniel:
Proof?

You must think quite a lot of yourself to think I owe you evidence of the legitimacy of my income.

Brendaniel:
Is 2024 Lexus exclusive to only legitimate hustlers?

Did someone tell you I did not earn my Lexus legitimately or is that just another pointless baseless opinion you've created in your head?

Brendaniel:
You are giving people advise you have never practiced....

Deceit & fraud

My 2024 Lexus says otherwise.

Brendaniel:
Did Nigerians ask you any advice, why are you acting like you owe them?

I repeat, advice is not something owed that one pays. I am advising you and its not because I owe you. Its simply advise you can heed or ignore. The choice is entirely yours.

This is good news. Nigeria not selling crude oil to Dangote in Naira is like not selling me gari in naira.

And while I wouldn't exactly mind if they insisted I buy gari in dollars, just pay me my wages in dollars too please.

LordAdam16:
Vance does not know who he is, but transgenders and drag queens do.

Transgenders and drag queens are not exactly running for vp last time I checked. If they are or were, we'd judge them on their own merit.

Brendaniel:
If you didn't owe the guy anything, then why did you give him advise?

Are you confused ?

Advice is not a payment one owes. Its simply advice that can be heeded or ignored.

Same way I'm advising you to be responsible. You can take my advice and be responsible, or ignore me and continue wailing that you are suffering.

I owe you nothing, and I am definitely not going to come and save you from your suffering.

Brendaniel:
In your words you said everyone has his own portion of part to play in the development of Nigeria, I never asked you to come take my portion accrodinf to you....

And that starts with each individual educating themselves and empowering themselves.

You after all can not solve any problem Nigeria may have without first solving your own problems now, can you?

So, learn to be responsible for yourself please, instead of asking buda to come be your messiah and save you.

buda owes you nothing.

Brendaniel:
It is simpler now, just come to Nigeria and do what you are telling him to do or you remain a liar. A cheat, a fraud, a deciet and a coward...

Your blackmail is woefully failing.

The irony of you begging me to come to Nigeria to come and solve the problems you face when I am telling you to be responsible and solve your own problems for yourself does not elude me.

Please suffer more. It can only make you take responsibility for yourself in the end while you continue wailing that buda is not your messiah.

Brendaniel:
Come and do what you are telling Nigerians to do....

I already do that where I am, thank you very much.

No one is tied to Nigeria. You can chose where you want to suffer, unless you are irresponsible and powerless of course.

Brendaniel:
I told you earlier on that I am not calling you for protest, just come and do what you are telling Nigerians to do or you remain a deceit, a fraud, a liar and a coward....

The Nigerian I responded saved up to buy a Lexus ES 330 2006 for 3.6m that is now 9m.

My advice is, invest in an education instead, so you can earn a better income anywhere in the world so you can afford to buy a brand new 2024 Lexus.

Hopefully, he doesn't reason like you do, or he'd be wailing when a Lexus ES 330 2006 is 18m.

Brendaniel:
My opinion or not, you are like a person trying to teach someone how to drive when you have never driven a car before....

You mean like I've never lived in Nigeria before?

You're welcome.

Brendaniel:
If you cannot come to Nigeria and prove it to us as Sowore is doing then you remain a liar, a cheat, a fraud, a coward and complete deceit....

Perhaps try being responsible for alleviating your own sufferings instead of trying to blackmail others to be Messiah Sowore for you.

Brendaniel:
Come to Nigeria and prove it to us or you remain a liar, a cheat, a deceit, a coward and a fraud....

Your opinion of me does not in any way solve your problems I don't think, but you're very welcome to them.

I don't need to prove anything to you Brendaniel, since I am not your messiah and nor am I responsible for you, which is what I've been pointing out to you but which you refuse to accept despite you being the suffering one.

Brendaniel:
Why don't you come to Nigeria by taking your own portion?

No one's portion is suffering in Nigeria, and there's many in Nigeria who are not suffering with you.

You asked about kidnappings. One can very easily solve that problem by hiring security people to follow and guard one everywhere one goes in Nigeria, which will surely reduce kidnapping from any portion one may have, please note. I have after all invested in my own education so I can afford to be responsible for myself.

Not every Nigerian is crying ẹbí n'pawa. Some are even eating more than ever.

Brendaniel:
So you are telling the guy what is good for him even when he is telling you that it is not good for him, .......

No, I am not telling anyone what is good for them. All I did was point out one persons sorrow at a Lexus ES 330 2006 costing 3.6m, and the benefit to others now it's 9m. And you then went off on one.

The problem we face in Nigeria is a lack of understanding of our duties and responsibilities, and I can very easily teach those wherever I may be. I also do come to Nigeria so those around me may learn, which they thankfully do. I am not however teaching anyone to solve the problems of Nigeria, and didn't in my initial post here. Even you couldn't admit to being kidnapped, so I don't see how that is your problem.

Please know you are free and welcome to have whatever opinion you like about me and I don't need to hold that opinion with you. But you asking others to come solve issues and problems you face is irresponsible of you, in my opinion, and you will continue to face those issues and problems until you become responsible for reducing your own sufferings.

I repeat my self below, but find it necessary since you seem to have missed it.

KnownUnknown:
It’s clear in the previous the behavior of yours that is akin to a typical Christian; not the straw man you are arguing against.

I disagree with you and many here would disagree with you too, but you are entitled to your opinion.

My own opinion is that any one who relies on any god for their daily bread or salvation is very ignorant and stupid and would likely starve. And anyone who serves gods is a slave to the figment of their imagination.

KnownUnknown:
Here’s another one. By “use your own senses”, you indicate that Eve is engaging in some critical thinking when it’s obvious she isn’t.

She goes wherever the wind blows. The first guy says something and she believes. The second guy says something else and she believes.

Eve not engaging in critical thinking is your understanding. You likely don't see through the introduction of a talking serpent neither.

If Eve believed she would die if she ate the fruit of knowledge, she wouldn't have agreed to eat it unless she wanted to die, but just the fact she's willing to consider what she's told is admirable, in my opinion.

If the op did the same, as in, first believe his Christian teaching, which he did, and then consider the Quran as suggested, he'd eventually discover believing anything without first checking with one's own senses if true or not is very stupid indeed.

KnownUnknown:
Kant or Heidegger had opinions but don’t just assume that he can’t understand them. Also, Kant and Heidegger are not in the same class of literature as the Bible and Quran. The Avesta, Odu Ifa, Baghavad Gita are the other works you should have recommended along with the abrahamic stuff. You could have also recommended the Book of Mormon and Dianetics. Chinaua Achebe’s works are not akin to religious lore.

This goes without saying, and anyone who understands their Bible would know not to live by one book alone because the Quran has it written in it that all the trees and all the oceans multiplied 7 times can not complete the words of the gods. Any one who attempts to understand those two expressions will seek for other books to read and may land where you've suggested.

One does after all need to disabuse oneself of belief so one can understand whatever one reads, and the fact the individual is searching for a local god to replace a foreign god does show primary level of Bible and Quran, if you asked me.

KnownUnknown:
Also, why are you comparing those fairy tales to Nollywood when you can compare them to indigenous fairy tales?!

Same reason we are discussing and writing in a foreign language instead of our indigenous languages I suppose. But I did mention our indigenous fairy tale by Chinua Achebe, note. If you can read that without believing it, you'd hopefully not believe any book you read, which is the intention of recommending the Bible and the Quran which present contradictory beliefs that can't be held at once.

I do not desire that the op be enslaved to any god or religion, be they foreign or local. I want the op to be free. And the Bible and Quran serve that purpose in our Nigerian culture, unless one reads them with closed eyes, which, by mere asking the question the op asked, the op does not have because he sees enough to seek.

KnownUnknown:
Twisting yourself into a pretzel to justify the unjustifiable. Like a typical Christian; when the implication of a sentence is obviously unacceptable, they start changing the meaning of the word.

KnownUnknown, I really thought you and I had gone past the point where unknown you would know buda, but it seems we still have a very long way to go.

Does a "typical Christian" tell anyone to read the Bible and the Quran?

Do you seriously think your mind reading skills are so good that you quite understood the implication or intent of my initial post?

You should put in more effort in to trying to know the unknown instead of assuming you already know things about buda that you obviously do not know.

Brendaniel:
That means you are telling Nigerians to do what you a Nigerian cannot do for Nigeria and is unwilling to do for Nigeria....

Not exactly. I am not telling "Nigerians to do what you a Nigerian cannot do for Nigeria". In fact, I'm not telling anyone to do for Nigeria, though I recognise that's been your argument and where you've taken our conversation.

If you go back to my very first post in this thread you will see I was specifically telling the individual what was good for himself. I'll post it below to remind you.

budaatum:
Meaning, if you sell it today you'd make profit of 5.4m minus depreciation, which sounds good to me unless you are a consumer and not an investor.

Imagine if you were one of those who bought 10 Lexus ES 330 2006 in January last year. You now be sitting on a cool 54m profit and would be praising agbado.

Nigeria is far too big a country for any one individual to make it better, but everyone making their own portion of it better by investing in their own learning and education will make the nation better one day.

Just our conversation here has contributed to that betterness, I reckon. You might not have learnt something, but there's others who might have.

KnownUnknown:
You should have just kept your advice to yourself. Why the Bible and Quran? The guy said he’s tired of foreign fairy tales and nonsense but you just double down with the nonsense.

Well, I obviously didn't keep my advice to myself, so there.

The Bible and Quran because they are the two most ubiquitous books in Nigeria and are good for understanding the written text. Also the contradictions in the two would create a dissonance that makes believing either most impossible, and will create a passion for understanding and circle squaring.

Foreign fairy tales because they are far more advanced than Nollywood, and feed the mind with quite a lot to nibble on.

I would have prescribed other books like Kant's Critique of Pure Reason, or Heidegger's Time and Being, but they might be far too advanced for a person struggling with the two I did recommend, especially if they are the believing sort instead of the understanding sort.

I do not consider fairy tales to be nonsense. Chinua's tortoise story being a case in point.

Brendaniel:
Why did you leave Nigeria in the first place, why don't you come back and do everything you are telling people here to do, are you not a Nigerian?

What is stopping you from spearheading your suggestions?

Don't you love Nigeria anymore?

I left to educate myself because I love myself more, and because I am not the messiah of Nigeria and felt no need to save you since you the proles would just end up yelling crucify buda. There's far too many people who reason like you do, who don't see reason for accepting responsibility for the current situation of our nation, and opposing your sort of view mostly receives the sort of response you've been giving me here.

Take your example of "violence that happened in Kogi state for Ododo" for instance. You make it sound like Martians arrived from outerspace to cause violence in Ododo, and can't seem to see that it is people of Ododo causing violence in their own community.

I am spearheading what I can by educating you here, but I am fully aware that some seeds will fall by the roadside and wither in the sun while a few will see reason in the sown seeds and learn to pick up their own cross and bear it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOFu6b3w6c0

Brendaniel:
Please don't get me provoked, I've been wondering why your comments were so out of touch with realities about Nigeria, please don't just get me provoked, any suggestion you give that you yourself will not come down to Nigeria to spearhead yourself will not be taken seriously, please don't just get me provoked, I'm actually controlling the words I am using on you now....

Please be responsible for your own emotions.

If you can't be responsible for your own emotions, you can't possible have any influence in the society you live in.

A40:
Ohh dear Russell got DQd? Damn

Poor him. He ran that car to its bones.