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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 7:05am On Apr 09, 2022
benalvino3:
well, you have been arguing for months that people do not plead guilty for a crime they did not commit. you are making the case for the FBI that they are not coercing people to plead guilty.

stop acting like you have been sensible all this while.
Ben, stop telling lies! And learn to read and understand.


budaatum:
And as I said, sometimes. But assuming a Jan 6 insurrectionist pled guilty to an insurrection they did not commit is what a brainless person would claim because it just isn't the only reasonable thing to do.

You yourself have repeatedly claimed here that Jan 6 was not an insurrection, and I'd expect you to defend that thought till the day you die, but if you ever decide to change your mind and plead guilty to insurrecting on Jan 6, please do mention me so I don't miss it.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:22am On Apr 09, 2022
Ben, this is for you. Make sure to read the first few comments..The hope is that you value history more and become much more cynical.

https://wolfstreet.com/2022/04/08/after-robinhood-shares-collapsed-87-from-peak-and-70-from-ipo-goldman-sachs-ipo-lead-underwriter-cuts-stock-to-sell/

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:04am On Apr 09, 2022

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 12:04am On Apr 09, 2022
basilico:
Comparing apples to oranges.
Bottom line the rouble has not crashed. The global economy depends to a big extent on Russia for fertilizer, oil and grains. What's happening is political Everyone has forgotten about Joe Biden failures now.
The elite can go to any extent to preserve and maintain power.
I may not want Putin but I need petrol whose price is market driven without selfish political actors instigating wars,
IF Putin does not supply the Fertilizer and this is planting season farm output will be low.Food will grow up.
If you look at the map of Russia forces in Ukraine, the farming area has not been touched yet,
Your inability to reason shows. Is the new bamboo, Putin went to war so oil price would rise and strengthen the Rouble?

You'd be the same one shouting Biden's inflation, but sees the economy of Russia doing well. Do you expect Russia to be immune from inflation forced by sanctions on top of the world inflation, bas?

https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/russias-rouble-rebound-not-quite-what-it-seems-2022-04-08/

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 11:54pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
My typo was on soros and brexit which I have already corrected. What do you mean now? Buda you are the one who believed that the Whitmer case suspects were guilty.
Stop your games.
Your "typo" is actually on everything you say, bas. Only fools believe anything you write without cross checking with the facts.

I am waiting for you to provide evidence for "you are the one who believed that the Whitmer case suspects were guilty", please. The buda I know does not believe nor pass judgement on cases buda knows next to nothing about, and no amount of claiming the kraken you believe is in buda's head will ever change that.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 11:29pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
You believed they were guilty. The internet never forgets. Me and Ben have been vindicated. You were wrong
Approach issues with an open mind not from a liberal POV
There you go again with your "did not see that one Was a typo"!

Show us please what it was that makes you create kraken in your head and believe it.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 11:25pm On Apr 08, 2022
benalvino3:
you are not disputing me but spend hours going back and forth with me about pleading guilty. okay... at least we are on the same side. i just don't know why i was looking for cases to convince you when you were not disputing me. silly me.
You like arguing, Ben, even about things we should agree on. It seems you need me to be on the other side of every point so you sometimes start arguing even before my opinion is expressed. And when it's not, you'd argue anyway. I do find it rather amusing, I must say.

Imagine arguing that some people do not plead guilty to crimes they never committed, lol. Then imagine some trying to claim one who pleads guilty to crimes they are accused of is not guilty.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 11:18pm On Apr 08, 2022
benalvino3:
there is always a scope to my discussion. going far back falls out of the scope.

the FBI has been politicized and this happened around obama. during bush they were not targeting Right or Left wings. they targetted muslims... now they don't care about any group except anything they label right wing
I've included below what happens to those who let scopes be set for them. Just change government to scope and you'd hopefully realise you don't set scope for anyone else but yourself.

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/26/580677742/the-massive-case-of-collective-amnesia-the-fbi-has-been-political-from-the-start?t=1649455665192

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 11:06pm On Apr 08, 2022

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:22pm On Apr 08, 2022
benalvino3:
when racism in the US was at the forefront, Yes. BLM is not good for anything so is Antifa. the same energy they put on any group labeled right-wing should be put on those group that has caused so much damage than any group they label right-wing could ever dream of.

but its a shame you are going very far back. like i say, equal justice for all.
Ben, please know that I always go as far back as historical record allows me. Not doing so is tantamount to covering one's eyes and claiming one sees.

If antifa and BLM are found to be what you claim, I'm sure the FBI will get to them in due time. I'm just personally delighted they are currently directing resources to far right groups, since they are a bit more of a problem.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:18pm On Apr 08, 2022
benalvino3:
you are still holding on to this yeye train of thoughts. again, this case proves my point that the innocent plead guilty... Basilico also made it know to you of what happened to Michael FLynn
Ben, I am not in any way disputing you can plead guilty for a crime you never committed. Try South Africa under apartheid and you'd find tons. There is lots of evidence out there to show many do, and I believe I posted the story of people jailed for murders they never committed who would have been death sentenced if not for death sentence abolishment that the wrong person might be killed for a crime they pled guilty to but had not committed. You can't however use this as those pleading guilty are innocent, as you are trying to do, this is not lawless South Africa.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you plead guilty to a crime you never committed, you are either toying for a lower sentence having committed a crime, be insane, or must be prepared for the price you must pay for being weak.

Do know that pleading guilty to a crime you never committed is the same as confessing to a crime you never committed. It happens.

https://48hills.org/2022/03/an-embarrassment-of-injustice-innocent-man-pleads-guilty-to-crimes-he-didnt-commit-to-get-out-of-long-prison-sentence/

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 9:03pm On Apr 08, 2022
benalvino3:
except that's not the case. this entrapment started after 9/11, the FBI was using it against Muslims then their pattern was discovered and was stopped. Now they use it to manufacture political opponents and anti-trump agenda. they never infiltrate Antifa or BLM. they don't care
After they've been infiltrating black activists for decades, right?

I guess you are yet to learn that snakes sometimes bite their owners. It might make you resist owning one as a pet.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/fbi-targets-new-generation-black-activists
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 8:53pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
was a mistake ,I am sure even Ben understood it to mean Soros did not want Brexit. You specialize in finding out something to distract.
Thanks for noticing anyway.
You saying Ben understood the opposite of what you wrote, bas?

Forgive buda, but that is not a skill that buda has!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 8:52pm On Apr 08, 2022
benalvino3:
buda, one of those victims pleaded guilty. i hope you understand what i am talking about now.
If they were not guilty they shouldn't have pled guilty and should have fought to clear their names, and this just shows some are weak and some are string.

I do wonder though if they can now appeal.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 8:49pm On Apr 08, 2022
benalvino3:
ibime before you call person coon for saying entrapment is bad... come and see. us that know how the politics have infiltrated everything will talk... but you that know nothing but hate for anything the media calls right-wing will come and sound the loudest
This might have worked if they were Muslims. There wouldn't even have been a case while they rot in Quantanamo!

Entrapment is bad, and I'm delighted it's being recognised as such.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 8:27pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
Let me apologize. I did not see that one Was a typo. He is for EU. Totally against Brexit.
I have made correction,
It wasn't a typo, you liar, it was your usual kraken! You make many "did not see that one Was a typo", and whenever I check I find it to be a bamboo from qanon.

Perhaps you should check before posting kraken. It would reduce your "did not sees that one".
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 8:20pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
What was your understanding Soros saying wants a new FIN world order? why does he want a new order
The current order where the American dollar is so strong that it benefits Americans to buy everything from weaker China than make them in USA is not a world order that is sustainable nor is it good for America. Not only will its currency eventually suffer as other currencies appreciate against it because they produce and export while you borrow and buy, it's people too will suffer because they will be in unemployed and in debt to those they buy from.

You can't print dollars to pay debt, you see. If America turns up in China with boat loads of printed dollars to pay what they owe, China will tell them to fuq off. And If you know anything about economics you'd have seen this play out in Nigeria that produces little and so is constantly in debt.

Now show your understanding of the above by asking an intelligent question, please.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 8:03pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
Soros funds all these extreme left wing groups that promote their viewpoint eg BLM . He helps overthrow govts that don't share his values. He was promoting Brexit also,
Kraken, bas. And bamboo!

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/feb/11/george-soros-best-for-britain-pro-eu-100000

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 7:57pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
www.google.com

You deflected the topic like you always do with stoopid questions.
Of course asking you questions that show your lack of understanding must be "stoopid" to you.

It's why you so easily digest the qanon version instead of questioning what one of you says you all must believe.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 5:58pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
Answer me too. Why did he stop a pipeline construction benefiting 40k people.? So
He stopped it because it was against policies he campaigned and was voted on. As opposed to drumpthgf who policies benefitted the few 40ks everywhere but were not sufficient enough to get him reelected.

basilico:
He is just undoing almost every Trump policy. I l its manufacturers who want him to do it.
Really? No kidding! I wonder why we elected Biden if we wanted drumpfhhht policies!

So, you hear manufacturers want him to do it? Do you mean American manufacturers, or Chinese manufacturers? Why would that be, bas?

And if you heard it from American manufacturers, do they too want to destroy the America they'd be manufacturing in, or is it because they think they'd be better placed to compete?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 5:42pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
I gave 4 instances of Biden policies which I think are not helpful to the dollar/economy.
One of your examples was him lifting tariffs on UK and China! Did you ignore the reasons given in the article you posted in support?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 5:33pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
I put out the video. Watch it make your own conclusion. Those are George Soros views.
Though I have a feeling the dollar might drop in value once Russia dump the petrodollar, and Saudi accept the yuan
You posted the video to express a view of your own, bas, and it is your view and understanding that is being contested, and not the views of Soros that you have shown you do not understand, but we shall continue educating you with the hope that you will learn.

Please read Ibime above before the following.

budaatum:
"Orwellian" is an adjective describing a situation, idea, or societal condition that George Orwell identified as being destructive to the welfare of a free and open society. It denotes an attitude and a brutal policy of draconian control by propaganda, surveillance, misinformation, denial of truth (doublethink), and manipulation of the past, including the "unperson"—a person whose past existence is expunged from the public record and memory, practised by modern repressive governments. Often, this includes the circumstances depicted in his novels, particularly Nineteen Eighty-Four but political doublespeak is criticized throughout his work, such as in Politics and the English Language.

Download Nineteen Eighty-Four here.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 5:24pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
Whats wrong with you. Ask him what he meant I am not in his head.
So why are you claiming to understand what he said when you are obviously not in his head nor understand what he said?

Don't you think you should at least understand the meaning of the words he said it in instead of sprouting kraken to those more in his head than you are?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 5:21pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
You are asking me something clearly stated in that video. you are irritating. As for globalists why don't you check google.
What is not clearly stated is your own understanding, bas, or do you expect me to ignore what is so obvious about you?

Ibime:
He is responsible for what he said, not what you understand.
Anyway, here's some educating.

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/06/strongweakdollar.asp

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/051415/pros-cons-strong-dollar.asp

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 5:03pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
Soros says it in the video. You want me to write down what he said?
Stop your funny games.

Ben help me here.
And I'm now asking you what it means!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 5:03pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
Is it possible that could be the intention by globalists .Make China the global leader and weaken the dollar?
I suppose by globalists, you'd mean global financial investors all around the world working together to "make China the global leader and weaken the dollar", though I bet your globalist is something else.

And why would globalists do such a thing, bas, like make China the global leader and weaken the dollar?

Why can't it just be the intention of China to make China the global leader and weaken the dollar? Is China too dumb or unambitious in your own opinion, or are you just too full of kraken with no place for reality?

https://nhglobalpartners.com/made-in-china-2025/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_in_China_2025

basilico:
For example Soros is responsible for Russia invasion of Ukraine. And now Russia wants to be paid in roubles or gold.
This just shows how much I insult myself by reading anything you write. Thankfully, ignorance is not contagious, though I often wonder at how easily you are infected.

You have not answered my question by the way.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 4:49pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
Watch the video first
I already did. My response is, ease up on kraken!

Now, answer the questions please.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 4:17pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
Anyway Soros wants a new world order. The dollar has to be weakened so that China becomes dominant and America a drag to the world economy. His words not mine.
What do you think he meant by that?
Bas, could you explain what the bold means, please, in respect to China's Remnimbi?

What would a weakened dollar look like, and what would be the implication of it weakening?

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 4:11pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
What are you refuting? That Xibiden is not doing Soros job?
That the "job" was started decades ago, and is the result of long term American economic policy that placed the dollar as reserve currency above economic production. No nation can survive on money printing for too long, and it does not seem like US is printung anything else at the moment.

You can't say fuqu to your workers and customers (taxpayers) and expect them to go on saying God Bless America. Most are like you yelling, kraken, and Brandon, while the sensible ones are unionising to fight back.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 3:24pm On Apr 08, 2022
basilico:
Joe Biden is helping George Soros crash the economy....
I do not expect you to comprehend this because it's easier for you to ignorantly blame Soros and Biden than seek for the cause of the American economic crash.

Toyota was #1 for the first time ever on a quarterly basis in Q2 2021, largely because it still had access to chips, while others didn’t, and it blew everyone away.

But in Q1 2022, Toyota was #1 again. This time it also suffered from chip shortages and its sales were also down from a year ago. But it sold lots of those hated sedans, including lower-priced sedans that cost a lot less than SUVs and pickups, that the others have walked away from.

And Toyota is now rubbing it in publicly.
https://wolfstreet.com/2022/04/07/after-gm-ford-fca-abandoned-cars-toyota-becomes-1-in-the-us-rubs-in-their-monumental-blunder-publicly/
Politics › Re: Tinubu Emerges As APC Presidential Consensus Candidate by budaatum: 3:17pm On Apr 08, 2022
Ahmed0336:
Source or this will be regarded as a fake news
It is now news, it's an opinion. And it's intention is so you believe it instead of reasoning for yourself.

This then makes me pose the question, is it working at all?

Will Tinubu be our next president?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 1:06am On Apr 08, 2022
BBC: Government defeated over voter ID plans in House of Lords.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61017998

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