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shadeyinka:
I've heard the argument of the bible being changed and edited from the original that I had to take an independent study. What I realized was that the proponent of this theory seem confused about who they are really accusing.
Is it the Tanakh that has suffered the change or the Bible?

It is not about accusing anyone, Shadeyinka, but first finding out if the editing and changing had at all occurred, and only then can we go looking for a culprit who done it if at all it was done.

Fact is, The Bible is significantly different to the Tanakh, and the Bibles we read today differ to the Septuagint. The later we know from the persecution of Martin Luther, and the former can be easily found through research.

shadeyinka:
Forgive me for being too religious BUT Jesus used this same Tanakh and quoted from some of them without raising the question of editing and change. Then who am I to insist that the scriptures we used have been doctored away from the original when my Master Jesus didn't raise such objection!?

Forgive you for believing the Gospels we read were not all written after Paul's letters, and not that anyone actually recorded what Christ said or did during his lifetime?

Trust me Shadeyinka when I say I have no choice but to forgive you for not knowing all this since it is not what you have been made to believe, though I will not easily forgive you for not asking and knocking and seeking with all your heart and soul and mind and being so you may know the truth instead of merely believing what you believe. Good thing however is that buda is not God, so buda's forgiveness is irrelevant. But do remember that we already did discuss how beliefs make some refuse to learn and claim the living died.

shadeyinka:
I will take such objection to the changes in the Torah seriously if it can be shown that changes occured after the death of Christ.

You will live long enough to be empowered to ask and knock and seek for yourself in Jesus Most Mighty Name.

shadeyinka:
This is why as Christians we must sometimes consult Interlinear Hebrew and Greek Translation of the bible.
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/1.htm

As in, [url=https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+8%3A3&version=NIV]we must not live by bread alone or we shall become malnourished[/url]?

Do know that I buda 110% agree with you most completely.

LordReed:
Thankfully no or else I won't have been able to see or respond to your post. LoL.

Meanwhile Jesus said to gouge out your eye if it causes you to sin and cut off limbs for same reason, to clarify this will be part of living in this Christ teaching ruled world, yes?

Let me know if you think this person will not be better off if he took the advice of Christ and cut of the parts of his mind that cause him to suffer so.

HellVictorinho:
What makes your statements true

Why should I accept your statements as that which is true

When did you demonstrate why your statements are true

The problem remains since you keep defending yourself by claiming to be saying the truth.

I will rather die than accept your statements as true.

HellVictorinho, are you not dukkha like one who burns in hell fire?

Is the samudaya of your dukkha not due to your taṇhā?

Is the nirodha of your dukkha not attainable by the renouncement of this taṇhā of your's?

And is magga not the path that will lead you to renounce your taṇhā and cessation of dukkha?

I guess you shall never know, Hell, because instead of asking and knocking and seeking with all your heart and your soul and your mind, you "will rather die than accept your statements as true" despite the fact that you are the one who is already burning in hell.

Watch this:

basilico:
Some interesting stuff on covid-19.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9629563/amp/Chinese-scientists-created-COVID-19-lab-tried-cover-tracks-new-study-claims.html
Dailymail.

An explosive new study claims researchers found 'unique fingerprints' in COVID-19 samples that they say could only have arisen from manipulation in a laboratory
DailyMail.com exclusively obtained the new 22-page paper authored by British Professor Angus Dalgleish and Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Sørensen set to be published in the Quarterly Review of Biophysics Discovery
The study showed there's evidence to suggest Chinese scientists created the virus while working on a Gain of Function project in a Wuhan lab
Gain of Function research, which was temporarily outlawed in the US, involves altering naturally-occurring viruses to make them more infectious in order to study their potential effects on humans
According to the paper, Chinese scientists took a natural coronavirus 'backbone' found in Chinese cave bats and spliced onto it a new 'spike', turning it into the deadly and highly transmissible COVID-19
The researchers, who concluded that COVID-19 'has no credible natural ancestor', also believe scientists reverse-engineered versions of the virus to cover up their tracks
'We think that there have been retro-engineered viruses created,' Dalgleish told DailyMail.com. 'They've changed the virus, then tried to make out it was in a sequence years ago.'
The study also points to 'deliberate destruction, concealment or contamination of data' in Chinese labs and notes that 'scientists who wished to share their findings haven't been able to do so or have disappeared'
Until recently, most experts had staunchly denied the origins of the virus were anything other than a natural infection leaping from animals to humans
Earlier this week, Dr. Anthony Fauci defended US funding of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, saying the $600,000 grant was not approved for Gain of Function research

All those words I made bold will conspiracists ignore and some will even present the above as conclusive evidence that "COVID-19 WAS created by Chinese scientists who then tried to cover their tracks with 'retro-engineering' to make it seem like it naturally arose from bats" instead of the baseless evidence lacking claim that it really is!

HellVictorinho:
It seems you can never understand.
I never blamed you for anything except the problem between us.

Don't you know what I mean by the problem between us?

The problem between us is your refusal to accept the truth Hell, which is the reason you are burning in hell instead of gaining victory over the hell that is burning you.

Instead of confronting your hell you even make it sound as if it is buda who put you in hell and buda who is pouring petrol on your body when the truth is you are pouring petrol on yourself and are setting yourself on fire.

Trust me when I say that there will continue to be problems between you and buda for as long as you continue to irresponsibly burn yourself in hell fire whilst trolling buda, as I've said to you before.

budaatum:
We will continue repeating the same things until we learn and evolve, unfortunately Hell. Its called Turning the Wheel of Dharma.

Until we understand the Four Noble Truths and learn to walk the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_Eightfold_Path#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DThe_Eightfold_Path_consists_of%2Cmeditative_absorption_or_union%27%29.?wprov=sfla1]Noble Eightfold Path[/url], we shall continue to turn the Dharma Wheel of Life and Death I am afraid, and there is no escaping it.

Tdotbluejays1:
To my UK friends. Ibime, Budaatum and co.
Congrats on BoJo's wedding.

The first Prime Minister to marry in office for nearly 200 years.

Thanks.

Delightfully amusing that he married in secret and without the fanfare.

HellVictorinho:
When will you understand?

When you decide to confront the hell you live in instead of just pouring petrol on yourself so you burn more!

HellVictorinho:
Concerning the problems in the world,I said they won't cease because people like you ensure that they don't cease.

In Yoruba we say "if hell fire de burn you and fire de burn ya neighbour you must to first put out the fire that is burning you before trying to save your neighbour from burning in hell fire".

Its like the steward warning in an aeroplane. Please save yourself first by putting on your oxygen mask before attempting to put an oxygen mask on others.

I think you have enough problems of your own that you ought to be concerning yourself with and therefore should not really be concerning yourself with the problems of the world yet, but I must be wrong because if your pain was hurting you'd be seeking solutions to your problems instead of irresponsibly blaming your burning condition on others.

HellVictorinho:
Exactly.

You keep accusing but you don't want to be accused.

That ensures that the problem between us doesn't cease.

I don't really care if you accuse me of whatever you accuse me off, please knock yourself out and accuse to your hearts delight. Just know that all that energy you are deploying to accuse buda and the whole world and the gods for whatever condition in life you may find yourself in might be better deployed in educating yourself out of the hell you might currently be burning in.

HellVictorinho:
You have decided not to stop accusing me of several things ......

Please read my post below to see that I have just accused you of being irresponsible! And unable to see and count.

HellVictorinho:
I never blamed anyone for anything.

Really? Let us see if you can responsibly count how many different entities you irresponsibly blamed in your post below. And when you are done counting in that post then count how many different entities you blamed in your post I quoted just before it.

HellVictorinho:
I write to FatherOfJesus and others that have rightly decided to condemn the Bible to inform them about the false accusations by budaatum towards so many people.

Budaatum just wakes up to accuse people of being lazy or/and neither reading nor understanding the Bible.

LordReed's brain is under the influence of budaatum's statements which are worse than acts of terrorism!!!

I have decided not to do anything except what is right and the right thing to do is to condemn the Bible!!!

Pastors and other christian leaders make money by quoting scriptures like budaatum but that's wrong!!!!!

Ultimately, anyone that agrees with budaatum towards false accusations is wrong!!!!!

basilico:
Its a Sunday. No name calling

Thank you Sir.

Tdotbluejays1:
Call me names now. Don't be scared. You know I would give it to you double.

Please don't.

Sunday Basilico is not the same as the during the week basilico, so he must be treated with regard and respect on Sundays please, because on Sundays he either reasons or respectfully disagrees.

basilico:
I wont call you names, ....

We don't call people names on Sunday, Basilico. We agreed, remember?

Tdotbluejays1:
Budaatum. I did not even see this post before I replied Basilico.

That's what happens when you are telling the truth. You post it then find you are not the only one posting it.

Firstorderwizard:
They're observing sit at home

For a day? A month? Months? When a constitution that we do not like nor approve of is written we will then decide to become ugm, ba?

I thought this was important and a thing we have been clamouring for for years, so how can we be observing sit at home instead of participating?

basilico:
Falling for the media again about shooting
He and I watched said he is seeing such great positive response to his agenda that if he shot someone in broad daylight, his supporters would not desert him.

Maybe you can explain why news of the vaccine to covid-19 was released after Joe Biden was declared the disputed winner.

You keep avoiding my questions and changing the topic of discussion. Do you not see how inept your drumptf must be if as President of the USA he could ​not even get departments he presides over to release news of the vaccine to COVID-19?

All he had to do was call a press conference to show himself receiving the vaccine, but did he not receive it in secret whilst telling his magas not to receive it at all even, because Gates was trying to chip them with 5G and they should do something with bleach instead?

Go on, remind me of the kraken you were peddling for him at the time because I sure have difficulty keeping up with all your conspiracies!

She is fighting for change, and I will not be surprised if she finds support amongst her peers and gets that change eventually.

I now accept her as a suitable successor in my mind for my darling Serena.

Go, Osaka! Go Girl!

Any reason given why?

basilico:
An insurrection is a violent protest. Jan 6 there was only one death , a protester shot by a black. I repeat a black cop.
Cops allowing protesters in..

And how many deaths were there at the Kavanaugh protests again, shot by any cop, I forget?

basilico:
Who did not know that Trump made profanity laden speeches long before he won.
Fault his ideas herein a 10 year old speech. Not his f bombs please

https://youtu.be/en tZMVV-X6o

Because he is the incompetent fool that he is half a million Americans died on his watch bas, and that is enough for me to not vote for him apart from everything else I found disturbing about him even before that many people started dying.

A person who boasts that he can get away with killing people on the streets of New York should not get a second term nor get away with it, and America have thankfully decided at the ballot box that he definitely shouldn't and wouldn't and isn't getting away with it by kicking his orange turdy ass out of the White House, which must be hurting him like hell because he only got to serve half the amount of time his nemesis Obama served.

HellVictorinho:
Am I the one that introduced her to the person that lied to her when she was a teenager so that she will marry him and give birth to seven children amidst poverty?

Am I the one that made all her brothers, sisters,uncles,aunts and in-laws incapable of helping her??


Am I the one that threatened in the name of wickedness to evict her from the symbol of wretchedness she calls an apartment last month?


Do you know the hardship I have also experienced since the day I was born?


What if I tell you that I,my mum,my dad and my siblings live apart

My family has foundational issues.


Your posts have not been helping matters.

I have responded to you in the appropriate place so as not to derail this thread with your hell. https://www.nairaland.com/6476995/what-prefer#102201541

HellVictorinho:
Am I the one that introduced her to the person that lied to her when she was a teenager so that she will marry him and give birth to seven children amidst poverty?

Am I the one that made all her brothers, sisters,uncles,aunts and in-laws incapable of helping her??


Am I the one that threatened in the name of wickedness to evict her from the symbol of wretchedness she calls an apartment last month?


Do you know the hardship I have also experienced since the day I was born?


What if I tell you that I,my mum,my dad and my siblings live apart

My family has foundational issues.


Your posts have not been helping matters.

Your posts are not seeking solutions to your problems, Hell. They are in fact posts where you ignore your problems and blame buda and everyone else instead as if it is buda who introduced our mother to the person that lied to her when she was a teenager and gave her belle for seven of us children to pop out amidst poverty etc!

You must do the work to lift yourself from the curse of Hell and not just succumb to burning in hell!

Originalsly:
He feels all alone ...... relationship with 3 older women... the oldest 55 years old.... old enough to be his mother.... he 2an5s to have relationships with his age mates..... and you gather from this that he feels accepted? He said it is not bad as a communist country compared to North Korea. We need to listen carefully to people who lived in these countries to try to understand what you as a Black are likely to experience.

I noticed ThePianoGuy is posting to "help you pay your suppliers on alipay and 1688", and "Normal and Express cargo available we also waybill to different state".

He listed a number with +861 code, which I checked and found is for somewhere in China, so I will insist that ThePianoGuy is not only accepted where he is but is now becoming comfortable enough to do his business from there as I always had faith in him that he would by making himself acceptable first to the women he had relations with instead of leaving his fate in the hands of China.

So let me say that you, ThePianoGuy, will continue to grow and be accepted in the land that your Lord God has provided for you. Amen.

MaxInDHouse:
You're not getting it, disagreement leads to separation in case having to do intelligent humans but war in the case having to do with unintelligent creatures.
So if you and i disagree it's normal all we have to do as intelligent beings is separate and go opposite direction!

Disagreement does not necessarily lead to separation, Max, you know that husbands and wives disagree, parents and their children disagree but neither leads to separation, and even if you and I disagree in this thread we will still remain a part of this one single community called Nairaland.

What is unintelligent and that may cause war is when one goes about labelling mad those one disagrees with because by labelling them mad you have decided already that you have no intention of resolving your difference with them and have resorted to insulting them instead which is a thing Christ taught one not to even consider doing!

Janosky:
You refused to participate in the charade going on back then.
You were not "spirit filled" (whatever it means)

I definitely refused to be filled by whatever spirit they were filling people with, that's for sure.

basilico:
Amplified by media. Here is the video in full. In context he was saying what most stars do, try to get into as many pants as possible, then go bragging about it to their friends. Human nature , men have done this for eons.
Media had the tape for years and chose the most opportune. time do damage Trump


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhsSzIS84ks


And when you are star they let you do it. You can do anything. Whatever you want.. Grab them by the pusßy...

Does that change anything? Generally stars especially wealthy people have hundreds of ladies wanting them.

"I moved on her and I did try and fuq her", is drumptf talking about what most stars do basilico, or about what he said he did?

Remember now that it is Sunday, our one day of being honest with each other.

basilico:
During Kavanaugh inquisition, BLM stormed the capitol., Got into offices, etc.
Was that an insurection or is an insurrection the act of protesting voter fraud?

Here at the supreme court.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRnmnxVtDqg

Here they swarm the hearing. Insurrection No?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfWJGTwiP28

Do you see the Police standing at the door? See how threatened they seem to you and how those protesters are not attacking the police nor the door?

Now post me those at the door on Jan 6 so we can compare please and decide if we are seeing something similar or if one seems more like an insurrection than the other.

Meanwhile, and while you are doing the above,
https://abcnews.go.com/US/false-equivalency-black-lives-matter-capitol-siege-experts/story?id=75251279

shadeyinka:
Except you want to make the admission that the Christians ADOPTED the Editing done by the Jews in the practice of Judaism.

As I said, and as you'd find by following the links and asking and knocking and seeking so you see and know for yourself.

budaatum:
Not all! And it has definitely been corrupted since it is in no way in its original form it started out as.

The Torah is the result of a long process of editing (or redaction, as it is called by scholars). This means that there is no one date that one can be pointed to as the date of composition. Most scholars think that the final major redactions took place after 539 BCE when Cyrus the Great conquered the Neo-Babylonian Empire.
https://member.ancient.eu/Torah/

The books of the Christian Bible were arranged in the sequence one finds them in today to tell the story of the creation of the world by a supreme deity, the fall of man from paradise, and humanity's redemption by the Son of God but these books were not written in that sequence nor would the original authors of the Old Testament works have had that particular story in mind.
https://member.ancient.eu/bible/

..the Hebrew Bible did not begin as a single book; rather, it developed over time through the compilation of many Judean texts. The texts, though, were not always understood as divinely inspired, authoritative, holy texts; the role of Judean texts in religious expression developed between the 6th century BCE and 1st century CE.
https://member.ancient.eu/article/1139/early-judaism/

You'd find there are subtle changes even in translations that are enough to make a difference. A prominent historical one was the result of the Protestant uprising, which was due to differences in translations, the significances of which are lost to us modern readers.

MaxInDHouse:
TERRORISTS don't negotiate with their victims so i know exactly what i'm saying!

I am not terrorised and nor am I a victim, so this is irrelevant to me.

MaxInDHouse:
People that raise up weapons do so for just one reason: DISAGREEMENTS
So when you view a Boko Haram as "Mad" he/she also view you as "Mad" the only chance you have to continue breathing in his/her presence is the laws that forbids him from killing those he view as "Mad"

Why are you doing this?

Please show me where I said people who disagree with me, are mad! Are you just going to insist on ignoring where I said we should start, with the forest in our own two eyes first?

MaxInDHouse:
So how do we stop the wars and killings in the future?

Start small small please Max, for we are but mere human beings and should start with:

How do MaxInDHouse and budaatum stop warring and killing one another in the future?

Because warring and killing one another is exactly what we do to one another on here in thread after thread where we fail to love one another just because we do not worship under the same roof.

And the [url=https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+6%3A27-36&version=KJV]answer is here[/url], Max, as written to have been taught to us by Christ.

basilico:
Who the hell said Trump is a through and thru conservative. He knows that great societies were built on conservatism not liberal nonsense
China is autocratic, conservative and diabolical.
What is conservatism by the way?
A continuation of old held values .

Is pussy grabbing on your list? And perpetual lying? Just for starts!

MaxInDHouse:
I don't know what you mean by intelligent but i'm sure that residents in villages where Boko Haram comes in the night to kill their people can explain better if truly those hoodlums do talk before touching their House with fire and killing those who ran out for safety!

I do not live in the community you are describing, Max, and neither do you, I bet.

MaxInDHouse:
Exactly what i'm saying, you view some as "mad" due to disagreement....

This is not true Max. You do not agree with me but I'm sure you will agree that if I thought you were mad I too will have to be mad just for trying to discuss with a mad person.

I do not view people who disagree with me as mad. It is people who "raise up weapons and kill for whatever reason" that I said may be mad. Please note the difference instead of arguing with yourself.