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Christianity Etc › Re: Waging A Bet Against An Impossible Statistical Odd by budaatum: 10:10am On Feb 21, 2021
BassReeves:
1. Was that a wise or foolish thing that the woman did?
Eve refused to believe what she was told, and decided to use her own senses to test for herself like a true scientist would, only to find out she had been lied to and she did not surely die on the day she ate it but her eyes opened and she gained Wisdom and she stopped working in someone elses garden and became self employed on her own land and went on to live 800 or so years and have many children and grandchildren.

Does that sound foolish to you?

BassReeves:
2. After eating the fruit that was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, was the woman joyous about what she had done or was she sorrowful over eating it?
I'd say she was joyous, I mean she found it pleasing to the eye and she gained wisdom and asked her man to eat too. Yep, pretty joyous indeed I'd say, though likely not so much about her punishment, but then some will rather be free people than joyous subjugated slaves, so I'll understand if you disagree.

BassReeves:
3. Are you shocked or not, that the tree of knowledge of good and evil doubled up as the Tree of Death?
No Reeves. I am not shocked that you would claim white is black. You've been doing that all along, hence Woe!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum:
BassReeves:
There is no shadow of doubt, you are a turncoat. this coming from, seeing your notable flop, of you, on the verge of changing your opinion and went over to the opposite party and, after crossing 'enemy' lines, you fired shot at your 'comrade', from there.
Turncoat? buda? You know half the story. buda turned from being the only true atheist on Nairaland for like 12 years, according to some, to Christ is Lord. The Word can be powerful like that. What I am flipfloping on is my defense that the Word does not enslave and subjugate, but you are putting doubt in my mind because you are most definitely subjugated and enslaved to believe Adam and Eve surely died after eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge despite it being written they went on to live 800 or so years.

Please know that buda does not have enemies. The Word says "Love your neighbours [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205%3A44&version=NIV]and your enemies moreso[/url]", and one can obviously not love those one sees as enemies.
Christianity Etc › Re: Waging A Bet Against An Impossible Statistical Odd by budaatum: 2:44am On Feb 21, 2021
BassReeves:
E shock you that the tree of knowledge of good and evil doubled up as the Tree of Death. The tree of knowledge of good and evil was not for getting wisdom, .....
Really now? So, despite "When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it", you claim otherwise and then convince yourself that I am shocked, lol!

Of course I am shocked, though I should not be. If you can claim that "on the day that you eat you shall surely die" means that day shall come 800 years later, why should I be shocked that you would claim a Tree of Knowledge is the Tree of Death? Have you not provided sufficient evidence for me to think if you say "black" I should expect white?

Woe, Reeves! Woe!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 2:31am On Feb 21, 2021
BassReeves:
What a turncoat and court jester you turn out to be. Are you licensed?

Stay real. Stay loyal or stay away from me. In life the turncoat, is never trustworthy by either side. The one that he betrayed will have disgust for him and the other that benefited from his treachery will distrust him.
Stay away from you? Like I said, you are funny. You say stay away from you and expect that is how it works as if it is not the truth that you must eat of the Fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil so that when you say "stay away from you", and if it were true that I am as you claim, I will depart from you and you will be ministered to by angels. But see, buda is still here.

No, Reeves. buda will not be loyal to you, for it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and God only shall you serve.’”

Let us now see who does the departing.

Ref: https://www.nairaland.com/6404876/waging-bet-against-impossible-statistical/8#99270106
Christianity Etc › Re: Waging A Bet Against An Impossible Statistical Odd by budaatum: 12:57am On Feb 21, 2021
BassReeves:
Let me give you a brief hermeneutic of Genesis 3:22. Eating of the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, that also doubles up as the tree of death,....
Really now? A tree of knowledge of good and evil that is good for getting wisdom and that makes one "become like us", kills 800 or so years after one eats it?

You are not giving hermeneutics, Reeves. You are telling me what you have been made to believe because you are afraid to accept what you clearly see with your own eyes and you are asking me to accept what you look at with your eyes shut. That is why you cannot see it as so pleasing to be eaten if one wishes to live eight hundred years before dying. Many of us will eat of it to live just one of those 8 centuries!

I hope you can hear the sadness in my laughter and the hope I have for you and the gratitude too for tasking my mind so. You will be blessed a thousand fold more than you bless me. Amen.
Politics › Re: Insecurity: Why We Couldn’t Defeat Boko Haram – Ex-Service Chiefs by budaatum: 11:28pm On Feb 20, 2021
HellVictorinho:
There are battles meant for certain people.
I don't stand any chance in any political battle because I have no support towards it.
If I say I want to become the governor of Benue state,who will support me?
Dude! We are two small people doing lyrics and book and you are talking governor of Benue State!?

As we say in China, "A journey of a thousand miles starts with one step", but we must not let the many steps to our destination overwhelm us at the start and before we take that first step.

Abeg, let us do the small small we can do at the moment changing one mind at a time and one day we might be big enough for super or chairman in one tiny local government and from there we might grow.

Romance › Re: Narialanders Let Be Truthful When Commenting In Threads. by budaatum:
Sixfeetbelle:
Exactly my thoughts on the matter.

There are three things wrong with this picture.

1) The boy was disrespectful. Disrespectful being the operative word here. Some carry on the rudeness they were born with into adulthood and somehow expect everyone to be okay with it. Your brother's wife is not your brother who has never cautioned your lack of manners before and so going with the "my brother's house" stance while misbehaving will not end well.

2) The husband is a wimp. He's a docile human who lets things slide. Cause for the woman to go over her husband's head to throw the brother out shows the complete 'lack of presence' the man has in that family.

3) The wife is quick to anger: If she felt disrespected by him inviting a friend over, it means she wasn't exactly thrilled with his presence in that house and this was long in coming. Some may pretend to 'visit' their siblings only to turn it to permanent live-in situation. And while some wives are accommodating, others aren't. If she couldn't wait for the husband to return before carrying out her action, it means she probably knows he wouldn't do anything and decided to take matters into her own hands.

All I see here is three wrong people in an explosive situation. This matter could have been averted if the head of the house had stamped his authority sooner, but these days, head of the home, na for mouth dem dey tok am

In conclusion, If he deserved to be thrown out so he can go back home to his parents house and learn manners, I don't see why we're castigating the woman for being the one to bell the cat grin
grin cheesy

Family › Re: Enugu Witch Doctor Dies In Grave While Exhuming Body Of ‘Maltreated’ Housewife by budaatum: 11:10pm On Feb 20, 2021
kkins25:
budaatum, any ideas??
Are you seriously asking buda what buda thinks of spirits with memory?

Go here and read how buda reacts to the supposed spiritual death of Adam and Eve.
Christianity Etc › Re: Waging A Bet Against An Impossible Statistical Odd by budaatum: 11:07pm On Feb 20, 2021
BassReeves:
You see how daft you are making yourself look, all from quoting Genesis 3:22 in halves. If you had quoted it completely, you wouldn't be asking this laughable question.
You are amusing. I'll indulge you.

And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.

So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken."


I repeat, did Adam and Eve become like a dead God but know good and evil then get banished from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken so he may not reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat and live forever?
Christianity Etc › Re: Waging A Bet Against An Impossible Statistical Odd by budaatum: 10:11pm On Feb 20, 2021
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 10:07pm On Feb 20, 2021
Livelystone01:
SMH.
Now I see why people ignore you here.
Trying to select and deflect from the issue under discourse.

I won't bother engaging you anymore, you comment incoherently on different paragraphs.
I think I'm going to insult you and can not help myself.

Really? Lol! I'm going to burn in hell.
Christianity Etc › Re: Waging A Bet Against An Impossible Statistical Odd by budaatum: 9:54pm On Feb 20, 2021
BassReeves:
Did you see above and read how from the preface of RSV, the translators of the King James Version that you are besotted with and whose Bible, you hold as the most standard of all Bible versions, are lambasted by the Revised Standard Version? I am sure you even don't know that translators of the King James Version, actually had it printed solely to compete with the Protestant Geneva Bible..
You assume a lot. You claim buda holds a book in high esteem after buda repeatedly ridicules those who think a book is the God that they should believe and bow down to, and you think buda who studied the origin of the Torah all the way out of Egypt does not know the history of English translations of the Bible. Easy errors I guess, so I'll overlook it. What amuses me is how you seem to be saying I should acquire knowledge but with the same breathe claim eating the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil kills as if we are talking about the fruit of the tree of ignorance.

Do know that I am very aware that you do not fear knowledge or you would not be mentioning the immense knowledge you have exhibited here, which you can only know if you have sought knowledge, but if you do not want to become like God, that is very much okay, but "Woe" to you, said Christ for not letting others know that "Ye are gods" as is written in the law, for that is the only reason you would want to keep others ignorant and you tell them what they must believe.

When Adam and Eve ate the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us". Is God dead that you then claim Adam and Eve too died "like us", or do you want to scream Hebrew and tell me "like us" means something like different different?

Please know that they told Christ what he too must believe, even wondering who taught this ordinary carpenter's son to read, and crucifying him, yet here we are today, Christ is risen, He is risen indeed. Amen.
Romance › Re: Narialanders Let Be Truthful When Commenting In Threads. by budaatum: 9:06pm On Feb 20, 2021
Godoverevery:
I hope you are enjoying your parent house...... your mum need to stop buzzing my phone.

Have told her why I sent you packing...
My mother will not go behind my back and be calling you so do not be silly and insult my mother. She is not the one who said "I do", and is not the one to tell you I do not do anymore. You did not send me packing. I sent your sibling packing and I would do the same if you can not bring yourself to respect me! I was not in my parent's house when you married me so I would not be returning there when I dump your irresponsible ass. My industriousness and education and desirability was what made you propose to me so stop making it sound like you married a market woman!

Your children asked me to say hello to you but I suggest you call them and say hello to them yourself. Be aware that they might ask you for next term's school-fees, they are still your children though I dumped you.
Romance › Re: Narialanders Let Be Truthful When Commenting In Threads. by budaatum: 6:21pm On Feb 20, 2021
Godoverevery:
like I said earlier humtty dumtty....you don't command respect but rather earn it.....if you are well behaved and your character is good you won't be crying to be respected.
I think you should have thought about my behaviour and character before you married me but I'm absolutely certain you don't know what it is which is why you'd marry someone you disrespect.

Do note that I'm not crying. I kicked your sibling out of our home.
Politics › Re: Insecurity: Why We Couldn’t Defeat Boko Haram – Ex-Service Chiefs by budaatum: 4:22pm On Feb 20, 2021
HellVictorinho:
Rubbish!
Only devils and demons are relevant in political competition in Nigeria!
You not taking part makes it so. Your job is to be victorious over the hell they live in but you giving up already.

Please consider changing your name to something like HellWonYouLost as it seems more appropriate to you at this moment. You can change it back to what it is when you are prepared to fight and your victory is assured.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 4:16pm On Feb 20, 2021
salford1:
Someone wants and is begging for my attention, unfortunately for 'it', I do not talk to wild animals that belong in the jungle, and I will keep ignoring it.
You my number one man!
Politics › Re: Insecurity: Why We Couldn’t Defeat Boko Haram – Ex-Service Chiefs by budaatum: 4:13pm On Feb 20, 2021
HellVictorinho:
Do they really need your votes when elections are nothing but acts of people like me spending money on getting voting materials and transportation to polling units so many times so that I will choose between demons and devilshuhhuh??
So, because you waste your money on doing what does not work, my vote is not needed? Not needed by whom? Don't I need it, or are you suggesting I just not vote and let demons and devils win? Sounds like the Republicans suppressing votes in my opinion, and I'm far too intelligent and responsible for "your vote don't work" to work on me.

I suggest you learn from Stacey Abrams: The woman behind Biden's biggest surprise if your current strategy is failing instead of giving up.

All that other stuff below is worthless senseless dribble of a lazy fuq!
Romance › Re: Narialanders Let Be Truthful When Commenting In Threads. by budaatum: 3:55pm On Feb 20, 2021
JONNYSPUTE:
....Are you guys not tired?.
Both husband and wife deserves respect inorder to make the family a happy home.
I keep saying it that the only way that woman will exhibit such actions without giving a damn about her husband was because the man has already failed to take charge.
Me I no de tire. Covid has locked me down and I have plenty food for house so nothing much to do but eat and explain to this individual that he should not assume I am "such women" and if he had sense, he would not have married me but here we are.

Perhaps he will learn to take charge one day but so far he has failed in his responsibility to maintain a peaceful home and will fail again and again until he dumps his "such women" ideology and shows some respect.

Romance › Re: Narialanders Let Be Truthful When Commenting In Threads. by budaatum: 1:17pm On Feb 20, 2021
Godoverevery:
well am not surprised with this submission..... that why single mother full everywhere.....it must be about me mentality.

You don't command respect dummy....you earn it......if my sibling offend you and you feel the best decision is to throw his things out without informing me then am a foolish man who is wife has no regards for.
If you were a good husband, you would have dealt with the ops complaint of "whenever she sight me", which implies it has been going on a while and you should have noticed either because your sibling told you or your wife told you, but useless home manager that you are refused to deal with it and are now complaining because I refuse to put up with your ineptitude no longer. And to further show how irresponsible a man you are, you are blaming me for the breakdown of the home you are meant to be in charge of? It's not your fault. I should have valued myself more and not married a man who has so little respect for me that he refers to me as "such women"!

Be there making out my single motherhood is a bad thing when the truth is you made my existence worse. Now I've gotten rid of useless you and your sibling baggage, I'm much calmer and able to bring up your daughters so they will marry a man who will respect them a lot more than you respect me.
Computers › Re: Is It Possible To Upgrade This Samsung Laptop RAM, Graphic Card, And SSD Or HDD by budaatum: 11:29am On Feb 20, 2021
I should ignore you for not posting model number! angry

https://www.memorystock.com/memory/SamsungR519Notebook.html
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 11:08am On Feb 20, 2021
Amujale and Martian

Please know that I am beginning to feel that you both might be correct about people being enslaved and subjugated.

Evidence for your claim in this thread.

I however think it is Christianity that does the enslaving and subjugating and not the book itself.

I will apologise if I find otherwise.

budaatum
Christianity Etc › Re: Waging A Bet Against An Impossible Statistical Odd by budaatum:
BassReeves:
I dont give a toss about your evolution, yet I insist that the understanding you need to get, is that, what you've learnt and ascribed to mean 'surely die' actually means, you will begin the process of dying. If you dont believe so, then, paste here the original Hebrew text that 'surely die' is translated from so we put it under the microscope and subject it to peer examination to find out what information the remark genuinely is passing on.
"The understanding I need to get", BassReeves? As in, as opposed to using my own eyes to read the text myself and my mind to understand what I read, I, buda must get an understanding that you give to me? Why please?

And why too must I provide "the original Hebrew text that 'surely die' is translated" from? Are you of the opinion that the translators of the King James Version do not know how to translate what they translated?

You will forgive buda, but I can not let you be the one who tells buda what buda needs to get when buda has eyes of her own and a mind to understand what buda can clearly see and read herself. And stop being lazy! buda is not required to provide the evidence that you need to prove your point. You "paste here the original Hebrew text that 'surely die' is translated from so we put it under the microscope and subject it to peer examination to find out what information the remark genuinely is passing on" if that is what you need to prove your point.

Meanwhile, below is the English version. The one with the "for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die" that we have been discussing all along that to you means, "you will begin the process of dying".

Genesis 2:16-17 King James Version (KJV)
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 3:54am On Feb 20, 2021
raumdeuter:
When he messes up, I will be here to drag him. I live here and his policies affect us directly
And I trust you will be honest and fair.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by budaatum: 2:56am On Feb 20, 2021
raumdeuter:
It marks 1month of Biden presidency and he looks to be doing the right things on most front

His policies so far have been good and he is also not bowing to the extreme left.

I hope he keeps it up for the rest of his regime, and pray for his success

1month in, I have no complaints on President Biden
You must be respected. buda respects you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Waging A Bet Against An Impossible Statistical Odd by budaatum: 1:36am On Feb 20, 2021
budaatum:
I agree Max, "you need wisdom to discern what happened is written in the Bible", but I guess some people need to lie to themselves so they can continue to believe what they want to believe but they can't or should not expect everyone to believe their lies.

We read in the Holy Book of Truths that when Adam had lived one hundred thirty (130) years, which was after he was supposedly meant to have died in the Garden of Eden, he became the father of a son in his likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth. Thus all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred thirty (930) years; and he died". [url=https://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gen+5%3A3-5&version=KJV]Gen 5:3&5[/url]

So effectively, at least 800 years after eating the forbidden fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil which was supposed to kill him if he ate, Adam finally died. Isn't it sort of odd for you to claim the eating of the fruit at least 800 years ago killed him? I mean, does that not seem like a very ineffective poison to you or that at least the person who forbade them eating the fruit lied to Adam for some reason?

Instead we read that Adam's eyes opened and he saw that he was naked. And he and his wife stopped being slaves and got their own farm instead of working for the owner of the Garden of Eden whom some think is their God!

If we teach this to the Adams and Eves in the North of Nigeria would alimanjeri not be eliminated through education and be freed from the slavery they are kept under?

Is it not the truth that the entire teachings of Christ is "Eat fully of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil so thy days may be as long as Adam's?

In fact, can it not be said that for Christians at least, the closest we have to the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil is the Word in the Holy Bible, which we are advised to imbibe daily so that we may acquire understanding and live?

Yeah, I know it's not what they teach you but I know some are capable of wisely discerning. So, did the so called serpent lie?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12801994_20201207132706752_jpeg_jpeg3b88d4034df2f571d8553ffd31bdb18c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOFu6b3w6c0
Christianity Etc › Re: Waging A Bet Against An Impossible Statistical Odd by budaatum: 1:34am On Feb 20, 2021
MrPresident1:
buda for eartum aka budaatum, You have the effrontery to challenge me frontally yayayayaya, I shake my head vigorously for you, This is surely counting against you in a very bad way I assure you.
Count against me with you, like your opinion of buda counts for anything?

You should try comedy. You do make buda laugh.
Christianity Etc › Re: Waging A Bet Against An Impossible Statistical Odd by budaatum: 12:44am On Feb 20, 2021
shadeyinka:
But you made yourself the devil's advocate.

What was the advantage of eating of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil to Adam and Eve?
Their eyes opened. They acquired Wisdom. They discovered they will not surely die. Is that not good enough?

shadeyinka:
It is contradictory of the scriptures to ask people to eat of the fruit that produces Death! The overall plan of the scriptures is REDEMPTION, your theory fail to account for that!
Really? Is Scripture your God now that it must have plans for you?

Hear, O Shadeyinka, the Word of God according to Scripture.

Exodus 20

1 And God spake all these words, saying,

2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.


Tell me please where it says bow down and obey Scripture.
Christianity Etc › Re: Waging A Bet Against An Impossible Statistical Odd by budaatum:
MrPresident1:
buda for eartum aka budaatum, has the serpent employed you as his advocate ni? Why are you trying to rigmarole the serpent out of his guilt?
Shadeyinka, look. One of your supporter has arrived expecting buda to converse with a person who can not tell black from white or good from evil.

If only he was brave enough to reach out and pluck the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, we might ask him to eat of the Tree of Life too and live, but I'm certain he is afraid of the Cherubims with their flaming sword which turn every way to keep him away.

Now, if only he knew Christ.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by budaatum: 12:01am On Feb 20, 2021
Christianity Etc › Re: The Garden Of Eden - A Child's View by budaatum(op): 11:44pm On Feb 19, 2021

Christianity Etc › Re: Waging A Bet Against An Impossible Statistical Odd by budaatum: 11:41pm On Feb 19, 2021
shadeyinka:
It is a free world to believe whatever you will.
The lie was this!
Gen 3:4:
"And the serpent said to the woman, You shall not surely die:"
Really? Adam and Eve live 800 or so years after being told they will "surely die" and your own understanding is the serpent lied, and to justify your belief you change the definition of death to "another kind of death" to make the lie the truth?

I guess the majority believe as you do, but when or if you decide to open your eyes to the truth and accept what you see and can read with your own eyes please hola at me because I would be very interested indeed to learn how you blinded yourself.

Until then, please know that I am not able to believe a word you say because I have no faith in your ability to see, or read.

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