Amya: I've read through all the detail I could get my hands on, tweets, blog posts going as far back as 2008, emails e.t.c on this sugar belly and mustafa case and I've reached the following conclusions.
1. Their first sexual experience in the car was consensual by all accounts.
2. They became lovers and did the car screwing for a while.
3. After he took her home for the first time, it got kinkier seeing how agreeable and easy she was.
4. He took advantage of her love/infatuation and agreeability and introduced new dimensions to their relationship. Triple Sins, SinParties, gangbangs e.t.c
5. She really wasn't extremely into all that kinkiness, but she thought being agreeable will make her look cool and probably make mustafa love her more.
6. So she kept going back for more and more of that. But rather than love her, he despised her agreeability. He hated her for not standing up to herself and inflicted physical pain to go with it.
7. But she stuck around for the debasement till she left for college in the US.
8. While in the US, she 'd hoped that the relationship would continue, but it didn't. he hated her for what she was and gladly closed the page on her chapter.
9. She called persistently, sent loads of messages, texts e.t.c most of which he never bother to reply. She did all she could for 8 months to revive the relationship but the guy had lost interest.
10. And broke off with her officially to stem the flow of calls and messages. She was heartbroken.
11. Rather than move on, that incident brought in depression, humilation and extreme hatred.
12. A week after the break up, she wrote on her blog on how he dumped her and how she still loved him. There was also the first reference to emotional abuse on that post.
13. The humiliation of what she went through came back and started eating her up. Making her relieve the experience and recreate it to suit her current situation.
Did Mustafa take advantage of her? yes.
Did he abuse her physically and emotionally? yes.
Did he hate her? yes
Did he do gangbangs with her involved and his friends? yes
Was it consensual? yes!
The guy is a scum of the earth. He took advantage of an impressionable 17 year old and probably scarred her for life. But he didn't rape her.
And wait a minute, where did the guy's dad factor into all this? was he also part of the Group Intimacy. Especially since it was his death that excavated this brouhaha.
You might just be the only girl with some sense on this forum.
Darkchocolate: Every normal person who has been a relationship and no longer wants to be in a relationship would often tell the other person to stop contacting them. Or to move on with their lives whilst they move on with theirs. But to just simply ignore a girlfriend (or bf) and respond to her periodically in the positive is a bit misleading, don't you think? Especially for a 17/18year old! We are talking about a teenager. She was barely an adult. People that age often need things spelt out in black and white.
Remember ...ranging hormones and all...maximum infuation stage...
So he should have been very clear and made it crystal that he no longer wanted the relationship. There is nothing in the email that informs me that he drew a defined line so yes...it could be argued that ignoring someone who is clearly infuatued with you (or responding once in a while) is an act of 'keeping them sweet' and still making them think you are interested.
I'm sure some grown as3 guys still get this kinda treatment from girls they are trying to 'chyke'but don't know he has already been friendzoned. She doesn't tell him either as she wants to keep him as 'backup'!!! Ever heard of this before?! I'm sure you have. You don't think its a form of control?
It's interesting how women always expect Utopia grade propriety from guys. Are women not the worst offenders at ignoring male attempts at communication?
One of the frustrations guys whine about here, on this forum, is how girls respond to their chat attempts with "K".
Maybe "O" is really expensive in the market these days .
This is the real world, and no one really anyone infatuated with them 'niceness'. A 17/18 year old girl is not a baby anymore. 17/18 is freshman/sophomore year at the University.
You can take it to the bank that there were other guys she blanked because she found them less thrilling than the 'governor's' son.
And they didn't 'date', they fvcked. And you don't need a divorce to end that one.
In fact what's a better tell to gerrara here than your fuckbuddy banging other girls and throwing it in your face, then being unresponsive?
I can bet you that this was just another day at the office for this Mustapha, abi Muhammed guy. Girls tripping for the thrills and wanting more.
It's fvcked to accuse someone of rape because they didn't return your affections.
Well, that struck me more than anything else. Obviously a very intelligent girl. It's just sad intelligence isn't resistant to...the sort of feelings the Mustapha guy stirred up in her.
My brother, the part of the brain responsible for these things is literally another department from the intellect one.
TonyeBarcanista: maybe she can get a good oyinbo guy to marry but i doubt any naija guy will want to end up with her. except hes only after his own share
For where? She go still marry.
That girl that was fingered in one of those BBA things is married. COZA's babe too.
One can consent to have sex and still get raped along the line. The moment she says she has had enough and you keep going it becomes rape even if she consented initially.
And that seems to be what played out here.
If you are saying she enjoyed the violence then I don't get it perhaps you are saying she is a masochist.
In any case all these are accusations and all I stand for is further investigation as we cannot dismiss or affirm her case.
It is important that you note the timeline of these current messages.
They were all AFTER the supposed rape and 'abuse'.
Darkchocolate: He behaviour in the emails he posted are also classic abuser bevaiour where he has clearly lost his physical 'control' over the girl (as she was in the US) and he resorted to psycohological control (by constantly refusing to respond to her or being 'cold')....and making her admit all faults. He better get great lawyers sha.
Jesu!
So what are the signs that someone is not interested in you?
nduchucks: @OP, all you've done is shown that the accuser possibly lied about several things, but you did not prove that the accused (Audu) is not a liar or a rapist.
The fact is, even if the accuser lied about certain things, Rape is still Rape. None of you internet analysts has enough facts to prove that the girl was not raped. If by any chance this girl was ganged raped as alleged, you may very well be defending a rapists - that in of itself is shameful.
The onus then, is on the accuser to produce evidence.
This could be you man. So if your ex from 2007 comes up with tales of rape, we should all believe her - just like that - and term you rapist?
ccollins: what I know for a fact is the lady would not cry to be a rape victim with all the shame and ostracism that come from such experience if she wasn't really rape.. by the way,she is from a wealthy family so how can she be a gold digger or take all these dangerous risks for money sake
Beeches be crazy man...
A wealthy family can't give you fame or infamy.
And for a crazy attention-LovePeddler. No attention is really bad.
"Even when I'm railed at, I get my own quota of renown" --- Pietro Aretino
Bigprozzie: For someone that opened a thread differentiating between the attitudes of Nigerians based locally and Nigerians in diaspora, your attitude is funny.
I am sure that the law in most advanced countries states that you are innocent until found guilty by a court of law?
Shalom
It no longer appears so, in the West - especially when there's a crying woman involved.
BoboYekini: I think he means Stockholms syndrome. Or in this case, Mumu syndrome.
Yekini my man, no mind them.
Not that I initially held women in the highest of esteem. But when I really really finally gave up was after I read of them writing letters, LOVE letters to incarcerated serial killers - in the thousands...
Serial killers, not armed robbers.
What do serial killers do? They fvcking murdered tons of people, serially.
In cold fvcking blood.
They rape, torture and mutilate. And then you send them love letters?
Aude: You must be one of those men that feel that as long as you are in a relationship with a woman you can have sex whenever you want. If a woman says no and you go ahead and have sex with her it is considered rape. I hope you are in Nigeria because if you dare venture into the US with this kind of mentality there is a probability that you would end up behind bars like a lot of your African brothers.
I've been on NL since 2006. This is the first time I would be calling someone stupid, but you've earned it.
MathsChic: That's a difference between emotional and physical abuse. Clearly you don't understand the difference. While the latter sums up well what you have described, the former is more latent and can last for years, lurking the corners.
Aude: So drugging a person and having sex with them is now considered consensual sex? What about the hush money he paid to some of the women? He just felt generous. Why did he try to stop the press from releasing those court documents? Why was he stripped of his honorary doctorates? Why is he practically in hiding and his tour was cancelled? Please if it walks and quacks like a duck, it is a duck.
Quaaludes were popular in the 1970s as a recreational drug.
Now think of the possibilities...could these women not have taken it of their own volition.
Yeah, giving into blackmail must be admission of guilt. Who stands to lose more from negative publicity? A public icon, or some obscure woman, from Lord knows where.
Stripped of his doctorates? Of course, these are some of the things that would make one give into blackmail. Seeing that the court of public opinion has pronounced him guilty, until he is proven innocent.
Giving some attention seekers money (which they were after anyway) vs tarnishing his public image, he chose the option of lesser cost.
One would think that a thing like rape, as grievous as we've been made to believe it is, isn't something that money can assuage.
If one would take money from her rapist, does that not raise questions with you?
Toks2008: lol...i guess you can measure it from the base and tell her the erect and flaccid size...
Its so amazing how complex the maniless can be...
Some can measure 2inch while flaccid and 8inch when erect while some can be 5inc while flaccid and 6ain just an inch when erect...this is why ladies cant easily decipher the size just by looking at it in resting mode...God is great.
That's quite a hassle.
I'd rather stick in the receptacle specially designed for these matters.
Aude: Stop displaying your ignorance on the internet. Have you ever sat down with an abuse victim and listened to how abusers are able to manipulate their victims? Why would she be quiet? I have a feeling you are one of those teenage rapists that is why you want her to be silent. Look at Bill Cosby, he raped women 30 years ago and now he is under scrutiny. What about Roman Polansky, he ran away from the US and he definitely would never return to that country. There are so many cases in the UK and they date back to the 70s and 80s
Correction: Bill Cosby DIDN'T rape anyone. There are merely accusations.
ExInferis: My sister and daughter cannot lower themselves to the gutter level this girl descended to.
YOU ought to open your gaddamn sleepy eyes and read. No victim of rape keeps going back for more except if they enjoyed it. That stupid story of a sextape is crap. If she was abused the tape would be the least of her troubles. Indeed the tape would've been evidence enough to convict the rapist.
There is this psychological phenomenon called 'craving after your tormentor' found among some rape victims. Also, we have instances where victims fall in love with, and may want to protect, their raper. However, the emotional state post-rape doesn't reduce the enormity of the crime.
My oga, there's no 'psychological phenomenon' called "craving after your tormentor".
And don't believe everything oyibo talk.
If she goes for an evaluation, I'm certain her evaluation would be 'mumu'.
I really felt great pity for her earlier, when I thought she was gang-raped once.
The first obstacle a rape victim has to contend with is convincing the nearest person that she has been raped. This is usually an impossibility. So the suffering inside and outside goes on, endlessly.
Well, you will certainly have a very hard time convincing people if you claim to have been raped, repeatedly, by the same group, over a long period.
A period in which you returned to your rapists, of your own volition, countless times.