I'm beginning to wonder whether Nigerian women are better off being baby mamas rather than wives as there doesn't seem to be any incentive in being a married woman in Nigeria.

Your man can still cheat on you, bring home STDs, have children outside your matrimonial home, kick you out of the home if he gets fed up of the relationship and leave you penniless to bring up the children on your own.

Lesson to all women - Stand on your own two feet and understand that marriage is not the be all and all.
If I were to advise Toke Makinwa I would say - get a divorce, find someone who genuinely loves you and never place 100% of your happiness in a man. Toke take a leaf out of Karrueche Tran's book (Chris Brown's ex) see how quickly she dropped him when she heard he impregnated another woman (and they were not even married) check out Chris Brown's mental state since Karrueche gave him the boot

Finally, Toke save your love for those who are genuine eg your family, a good man who recognises your value and any future children you might decide to have.

So? If both of them are happy with each other getting married in those clothes , what is your business

So many jobless amebos on NL.

overrated, talentless fool.

tivta:
Women in nigeria of this generation just love to be right no matter how truly wrong they are, how can a married woman who is 30years old not have anything to show for her marriage except globe trotting? If she had a kid now I would call Maje a poligamous hegoat, but he has none. I still say just because a woman is working doesn't mean she can't raise a family, that's why I so much love Beyonce, despite her over working life style, she still has time to raise her daughter. She is not a super woman but a virtuous woman, I bet that all the so called women shouting Maje is this and that are all just kids from the early 90's, who are on their way to becoming lesbians. Family must always come first if not there is no way you would be alive. I still say it, Toke was just not ready for marriage, you can't eat your cake and have it. She should have just married her job just like Genevive. I really pity girls of this generation, always trying to eat their cake and have it yet don't have wisdom like Beyonce, what a pity.

So having something to show for a marriage is having a child with a man who cheats on you with his ex? What do you think those women tell their children when those children grow up? "Your dad regularly beat me up and gave me STDs but at least I have something to show for it"!!! You seem not to understand that children who grow up in abusive environments end up with a lot of emotional problems later on in their own lives.

You sound very naïve, I cant believe you are holding Beyonce's business marriage up as an example of a good marriage. For your information Beyoncé's "marriage" is a business arrangement with zero love or affection on both sides. They are in what is known as an open marriage and are only together because their profitability relies heavily on the image of both of them being a happily married couple with a fairy tale lifestyle. IN real life neither of them can stand each other and rarely spend time together. Its all about business, baby and in the western world money is king.

tivta:
. Nigga you are a ass licker not a guy, I wish you luck worshiping women, remember what happened to solomon, adam, samson, Napoleon etc why you refuse to see reason. Peace.

I bet you wouldn't "see reason" if this kind of thing happened to your sister or may be you would see it as normal. No wonder there has been a rise in lesbianism amongst Nigerian women

tivta:
. Nah, but from your statement its clear your dad and brothers are also serial cheaters. I pity your so called husband.

well im a bloke and im not gay. I also have sisters whom I love dearly and would not want any of them to end up with low lifes like you.

netizenbuzz:


You people think that is why their divorce rates are high? Na, I don't think so. Me thinks their divorce rates are high because while women have decided to sit up and stop taking shit, the men are still stuck in the stone ages. Maybe you all should move along with time and let's see whether marriages will still fail or not.

Marriage in the western world is all about money, rarely about love. Majority of women in the west want financial security for themselves and their kids and a lot of them will only marry you if this is on the cards (which I don't blame them for) Marriage in Nigeria favours men more than women because if a woman is unfortunate enough to marry a man who refuses to take care of her and her children, beats her up or emotionally abuses her she has only two choices, leave and face a life of hardship (unless she's from a rich family or has her own money) or stay and continue to put up with the abuse. She can not get a court order to force him to take care of his children or stop him from beating her up.

In other words there are no consequences of being an abuser of women in Nigeria. In the West men are afraid of getting married because if they abuse a woman they could lose everything they worked hard for. In Nigeria if a man abuses a woman everyone blames the woman and she is told to put everything in prayer. Knowing that she might lose everything including her own children she swallows her pride and continues to endure the abuse.

Until the law in Nigeria is revised to protect women and children in Nigeria, you will continue to hear of these kind of stories.

If this man knew that cheating on his wife could result in him having to give her a proportion of his wealth I bet you he wouldn't have gone back to his ex, not to talk of getting her pregnant.
Both women have lost out in this situation as the man is using both of them and probably doesn't love either of them. He is more concerned about satisfying his own needs and has been running two relationships concurrently whilst preying on their low self esteem and desperation to be married. Both women fell for the trick and as far as im concerned both women are victims as there is no guarantee that he will stay with either of them till the very end.

Nuhu's daughter is his carbon copy.
Hausa/Fulani women are the most beautiful Nigerian women, their beauty is natural - nice facial features and bleach free skin. They also tend to be tall and slim.

By the way what sort of woman has a kid for a man who dumped her and married someone else, that girl's self esteem must be in the gutter. I don't know what she's going to tell that child when he or she grows up, or maybe she hasn't thought that far ahead .

CFCfan:

The family laws may need to be revamped to make the country a haven for non-misogynists

I predict that if that ever happens, marriage will go down and divorce will go through the roof just like in the West.

Also wealthy Nigerian men will stay away from marriage permanently

Bobbyunitedfc:
ITS HER FAULT JARE,EVERYTIME TOKE BIN GOING FROM ONE PARTY TO ANOTHER FORMING TROPHY WIFE AND ALL THRASH,GET PREGNANT FOR UR HUBBY U REFUSE,SO NOBODY SHUD BLAME DIS NIGGA MAN,BODY AINT NO FIREWOOD

How about all these women who have loads of kids and their husbands still cheat on them, what do you have to say about that, let me guess - she's had too many kids, she's now old and fat and the husband doesnt find her attractive any more!

Nigerian women you cant win in a country full of misogynists

tivta:
. Including your dad and brothers?

ooh, did I touch a nerve?

If my statement doesn't apply to you why are you getting excited?
I bet you're one of those STD carrying losers who brag about how many women you sleep with in a day with legions of baby mamas all over the place - ode.

Only in Nigeria is a woman blamed when her husband cheats on her and impregnates another woman

This is why Nigerian men love marriage so much, who wouldn't love to eat their cake and have it too.

You can cheat and abuse her as much as you like and she will still be as kind and understanding towards you as ever.

You can even sleep with her friends without fear of a huge divorce settlement awaiting you, you can abuse and abuse her to your hearts content and you will still be allowed to have access to your children. I m sure a lot of men in the west will move to Nigeria in droves if they realise how much they can get away with in that country.
Real haven for misogynists.

He doesn't look like he wants to be there

just to add to the poster above me - Abiola was a coup financier, traitor, megalomaniac and CIA agent.
The man was vile and evil to the core and ended up being double crossed by his equally evil and vile partner in crime IBB who sadly has never been brought to book for the evil he perpetrated against the Nigerian people.

No big deal - east Germany, west Germany, what difference does it make?
At least he conducts himself like a head of state unlike some people.

PabloAfricanus:
@cap28
Blaming Shymexx or any other black for "consumerism" or materialism...while sometimes needed...I've discovered to be counter productive.
How do I mean?
There appears to be no visible alternative for black folks to idolize.
What is the alternative to the black man worshipping "shiny things and toys"?

There are many alternatives, but many are not visible within the white controlled corporate media, this is where knowledge of self comes in to play, imagine what it would be like if BET were to be owned and controlled by a conscious black person, imagine the kind of shows that we would be treated to. Rather than showing images of buck dancing wanna be white black people we would be shown educational documentaries about our glorious past, there would be regular shows about black economic independence and practical ways in which to achieve this, instead of watching crap like love and hip hop, the real wives of Atlanta and hell date we would be watching uplifting educational documentaries about our glorious past which would instill in us the pride and motivation to change our current situation.
Imagine how it would be if we were to be treated on a regular basis, to educational programmes about African history, our many achievements, our great empires, our creativity, our great artistry which every race in the world has hijacked and appropriated.

What black responsible role model can our youths look up to?

Muhammed Ali, Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey, Patrice Lumumba, Kwame Nkrumah, Thomas Sankara, Nelson Mandela the list goes on.

Our sisters are even damned ashamed of their hair and natural looks! Most black women vehemently defend their wearing wigs and weave ons like their life depends on it!

Because the dominant society (white supremacy) degrades and ridicules black women, also black men are willing accomplices to white supremacy, many black men prefer the physical features of the ugliest white woman to the most beautiful black woman, this has engendered terrible self hatred in many black women who feel that the only way they can get a black man is by looking like a white woman.

Black men know deep down the mediocrity and silliness that is "black culture". Yeah I said it.
Being social animals, they wanna belong too...to something perceived as "better". Can't fault that.

The majority of black men are cowards and are afraid to fight the system of white supremacy. There is nothing mediocre or silly about black culture, black culture is about the ability to survive the most brutal and barbaric system on this planet. What is "better" about a system that castrated, rap.ped and brutalised your ancestors?

But its never a solution to a self-replicating cycle of self-hate.
Its all about egos. We've not transcended or mastered our egos. To be honest, the whites are leading by far in ego mastery even if theirs leads to disfunctional personalities.

Its not about the black man's ego, its about his fear of the white man, black people are afraid of losing the little crumbs the white man throws in his direction, so they degrade themselves in order to have a little money in their pockets.

In my opinion, the root of the black man's "problem"...is the lack of what I call "beauty consciousness".
We blacks seem to abhor anything that is beautiful or orderly! Never mind the obsession with shiny things.
If we truly loved beauty...we would replicate such things where ever black people are found.
Take a good look at say a Mercedes Benz AMG S class car...the aesthetics, the attention to details, the refinement, the luxury and sheer beauty of it all.

The black man's concept of beauty has been distorted because he lives amongst his enemy. It is very difficult to grow up loving your black skin, your broad nose and your thick curly hair in a society that tells you day in day out that those characteristics denote ugliness.

Its interesting how you use the image of the white man's creation to portray beauty - says a lot about your own mindset . I mean if you are using the white german man's creation as a template that says it all.

The black man as we know it...has not demonstrated the ability to conceptualize or manifest such works.
Don't get me started about the pyramids or "african artifacts".
We seem to lack the mental depth and vision to appreciate such levels of beauty. It even had to take White stylists and designers to portray black models as "desirable"!

That's funny cos I could have sworn that black people built the pyramids of Egypt and Sudan. I can also remember that the Moors introduced such great technological advancements in areas such as architecture, literature, science and agriculture to the backward and barbaric people of Iberia (now known as Spain) Correct me if im wrong but these influences are still visible in Spain to date.

Summary : the solution I think to the black mans lack of values and aesthetics...is to cultivate a culture of beauty.
It needs to be embedded in our subconscious.
That's what would drive the Romans to build aqueducts over 2000 years ago, make them discover how to use electricity to light up their streets in the night, develop styles of architecture pleasing to the eye...
Drive out the blacks from Detroit and allow the whites to repossess the city once again...in no time they'll beautify it...clean up the mess and make it working. Do you doubt it?
The ugliness would not resonate with their subconscious...thus they would be driven to change it.
On the other hand, almost all that is associated with the black man is...you know what...
We need to master the art of learning from those who know how. The Romans learnt from the Greeks, Syrians, Persians.
The Greeks learnt from the Phoenicians, Egyptians.
The British learnt from the Arabs and Egyptians.
Its the way of the world...learn and improve.
The black man has refused to learn. This is what needs to be changed.

And the Egyptians who everyone learnt from were black Africans but your white supremacist history teachers have rewritten history so that you don't know that basic fact. We Africans taught the world what beauty is but they have stolen our ideas and pretended as if they are the originators of those same ideas. This practice of stealing from us is an ongoing practice - a simple example is hip hop - notice how the most visible hip hop artists are now white, whereas the originators were black. You need to be aware of the game, if you want to win.

Shymm3x:


That said, I think whenever you critique, you have this propensity to always take the face-value of whatever message is disseminated, without looking at the bigger picture. Once you start moving beyond letting the emotional side of things obfuscate logical translation in how you view things - you'll see that both Kanye West and Floyd Mayweather are great role models for black youths, when it comes to economics. Helping black people goes beyond giving folks crumbs and publicising it - we need to embrace structures that will make us owners, and not consumers. And that's why I rate both of them. Both are achieving greatness, without the need to compromise - and that's a lot in the current clime dominated by white supremacy/privilege. Not saying they're both perfect - far from it - but what they're both doing is laudable, in the larger scheme of things.

And you exhibit what is popularly known as herd mentality - a mindless and slavish adoration of what you perceive as the current trend without any thought as to why that thing is a trend in the first place.

You are a typical mind controlled negro, hooked on materialism and consumerism. You go crazy at the sight of flashy cars, expensive clothes and strippers and in your small mind you think that those things are what denote success. Success is not about any of those things, and as Farrakhan correctly said in one of the videos you posted one person can never rise above the condition of his people. The fact that Kanye West and Mayweather drive bugattis or wear designer clothes will not stop your boss at work from treating you like crap or firing you simply because he doesn't want to see your black face around him anymore. It also wont stop a police officer from stopping and searching you simply because you are black and it wont stop a white woman in the street from clutching on to her bag when you walk past her, so why are you still desperately trying to ride on the coat tails of two people who have done absolutely nothing for you, except remind you how rich they are and how poor you are?
I mean when was the last time that Kanye WEst used some of his millions to build schools in the black community or award scholarships to underprivileged black kids? We already know that Mayweather doesn't consider Africa as his ancestral home and feels more at home in strip clubs than around his own people so theres no point asking the same question of him. But what I cant understand is why you seem to think that individual financial success of two of the biggest slaves of the white corporate machine equates to collective success of the black man every where in the world.

Kanye West is like the modern-day 2pac, without the conscious side - while 2pac was the Malcolm X of rap (he owes that to his mum and Black Panther upbringing. What Kanye West is doing creatively alone in both the fashion world and entertainment industry is pure genius, and thus far, he has been able to carry a lot of black youths along. Yes, he does a lot of things that will make you scratch ya head, but you can't deny the fact that he's fearless and the creative control he has over everything he does. Wasn't that the same guy who went to prime time TV to critique George Bush for not caring about black people? How many people have the balls to do that? I believe Minister Louis Farrakhan took him under his arms for proper guidance cos Kanye West, based on how he's moving, will have the world at his feet soon.

Tupac the Malcolm X of rap? Er I don't think so. I don't remember Tupac openly denouncing the system of white supremacy, I don't remember Tupac sacrificing everything he had in order to uplift black americans and get them a better deal in life, infact all I remember Tupac doing was triggering a meaningless east coast west coast feud and getting into gun fights with other black men. Black men are very good at fighting each other but not fighting their real enemy. Malcolm didn't waste his time fighting other black men, he fought the white establishment which in my book is the real fight that blacks should be focusing on. So stop with the delusional fairy stories about Tupac being conscious - he wasn't conscious he was just out to make money, yes he sang about social ills and police brutality but that did not make him conscious, Chuck D was conscious, Akala is conscious, Talib kweli, Immortal Technique are conscious. Tupac messed about with white women, drugs and alcohol, disrespected black women in his music and rapped about killing his fellow black brothers - conscious? I think not . Comparing Tupac to Malcolm X is like comparing Lil Wayne to Marcus Garvey!

As for Kanye Waste he is the modern day version of a buck dancing, shucking and jiving minstrel, he loves white people so much he didn't mind marrying one of their cast offs. Kim has been run through so many times she cant even remember how many men she's slept with. This is a woman no white man in his right mind would date let alone marry but coonish west saw it as an honour to take her on as a wife.

Coonwest goes to Europe begging and crying the racist European designers to endorse his junk and when they laugh at him he throws temper tantrums like a little baby unhappy that massa doesn't respect him. This is the man you call a genius! God help us!

As for Floyd Mayweather, I'm still dumbfounded you can't see the genius in what he's doing. Is boxing not a professional sport? And isn't anything professional for making money? So why do you have a problem with him making money off his profession, and doing so without white people ra.ping him like a slave? You basically want the guy to spend his life working as a slave like Mike Tyson did, and end up broke acting like an Uncle Tom like Mike Tyson is doing these days to feed his family. Didn't you see the regrets all over Tyson's face in the interview I posted to you last week? You have a problem with white supremacy/privilege and white people dominating everything - yet you also have a problem with black folks creating wealth, becoming owners and not slaves - and cutting white domination. You sound confused. What do you want him to do? Turn to a slave and let white folks make money off his sweat, and start moaning 10 years after retirement - or the way he took the initiative and made money off his own sweat, by turning hate into wealth? How would black folks become owners with ya mentality?

As I have told you numerous times on other threads, without the white man ALLOWING Mayweather to become rich he wouldn't be. Its that simple. Does Mayweather own any tv stations, who markets his fights, who set up the PPV deals? He may have made some good business moves in terms of ownership but his relationship with the white owned media is a symbiotic one, both need each other in order to make money, therefore his success is less to do with business ingenuity and more to do with necessity. Tyson made over $400 m at the height of his career, the reason he has no money now is because he squandered it not because he wasn't making the money, so whats your point? Had he saved his money and lived a less flamboyant lifestyle he would still be rich. Mayweather lives an equally flamboyant lifestyle now, who's to know what his financial status is going to look like in 10 years time. Who's to know how much he spends keeping that "money team" entourage happy - cos im sure they're not hanging around him for his great conversation and fantastic social skills.
Mike Tyson is still better off than the majority of black people out there including you. Im sure you have to do a lot more degrading things than Mike Tyson has ever done in his lifetime in order to hold on to your 9 to 5 job that the white man lets you have.
Mayweather and WEst create wealth firstly for the white corporate money machine and then they get whats left over, they also make money out of professional followers like you who are dumb enough to buy their trashy products, Mayweather gets dumb nuts like you to spend money they haven't got on ppv to watch him run around the ring and West makes money out of you by selling you second rate junk clothing at inflated prices. They prey on your insecurity, low self esteem and desperation to be part of the "in crowd" but in your delusional mind you seem to think that what they are doing is worthy and groundbreaking. Tragic.

And what's wrong with the breakfast club? Apart from the fact that the radio station is owned by white folks and the excessiveness of Charlamagne sometimes - I honestly don't see anything wrong in what they do. They interview everyone, from musicians, to actors, to activists, to sports men/women etc.. If they can become their own bosses and start doing the show on a radio station or medium they own - that will be big. They already have a massive following all over the globe now, and it's time for them to go to a platform they own and become their own bosses. Aside that, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the breakfast club.

hahaha - you answered your own question - its owned by white folk!!
And guess what? he who owns the radio waves dictates what is broadcast over it. Charlamagne is a self hating, uneducated coon who hates his complexion so much he now uses bleaching cream, he salivates over white women and would do anything to be in a relationship with one. I will however give him credit for at least being quick witted. The other two are the usual self hating "team lightskin" drones who think that being lightskinned somehow elevates them above other "dark skinned" blacks, sadly the only thing the white man sees when he looks at all three of them are a bunch of buck dancing niggas.

Shymm3x:


Yes, he isn't a saint and he owes us an explanation on the part he played in the death of Malcolm X (since that was his mentor and the man who made him give up music to join NOI, with his amazing speech). And the links between FBI and NOI back then. However, what do you think about his message?

I don't think there's any "black leader" - dead or alive - who was/is a saint, to be honest. Hence I don't emulate the "man" - I take from whatever message they give, and assimilate whatever resonates with me.

Anyway, this is the 2nd part of the interview where he talked about black economics and he also praised Floyd Mayweather for his genius (loool):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcl6VVxFRFg

Farrakhan makes very good points in this second interview and black people not only in the US, but all over the world need to see this interview as I found it very educational and informative.

Shymm3x:


Yes, he isn't a saint and he owes us an explanation on the part he played in the death of Malcolm X (since that was his mentor and the man who made him give up music to join NOI, with his amazing speech). And the links between FBI and NOI back then. However, what do you think about his message?

I don't think there's any "black leader" - dead or alive - who was/is a saint, to be honest. Hence I don't emulate the "man" - I take from whatever message they give, and assimilate whatever resonates with me.

Anyway, this is the 2nd part of the interview where he talked about black economics and he also praised Floyd Mayweather for his genius (loool):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcl6VVxFRFg

Okay, so when is he going to dispel or correct the rumours about his alleged involvement in Malcolm's death because I think a lot of people would like to know the truth.
Also we need to start looking at why he is aligning himself to all these sell out black icons, the other day it was Kanye West now its Floyd Mayweather, neither of these black men are pro black figures and they do not give two sh.its about black people, they are the epitome of self hate, individualism, conspicuous consumption and mindless materialism. Kanye West sold his soul to the devil in order to become part of the white corporate money machine, he whines and cries when the European designers refuse to recognise his junk clothing and jizzes in his pants when he gets invited to their events, Floyd Mayweather is a fraud who went into boxing purely for the money and not for the love of the sport - what is iconic about that?

My theory is this - Farrakhan has never and will never be a threat to the white establishment, he was and remains the accepted face of black opposition, he is merely playing to a script possibly written by the FBI, they cast him as their bogey man but behind closed doors my suspicion is that he may be working for them.
Farrakhan talks a good talk but he was never going to put any of that talk into action, he talks dismissively about marching, but thats about all he ever does. This is not to diminish some of the NOI's acheivements as they have instilled a lot of pride in black American men and have encouraged clean living,self love, financial independence, responsibility for family and spurning of all the white man's vices eg drugs, liquor, pornography But when you take a step back and look at the bigger picture a lot of questions remain unanswered.

I find it really odd that a show like the breakfast club which constantly parades and champions artists who work for the white corporate machine would suddenly welcome a supposed black militant on to their show to voice views that white America does not want to hear. Lets not forget that this is the same man who is banned from making public speeches in many other so called democratic countries in the world including the UK.Has the white corporate media realised that he can now be used as a tool to reach out to disgruntled young black people who feel disenfranchised after all of the recent police shootings of young black men?

My views on Louis Farrakhan have changed a lot over the years and I am now getting to the point (after conducting a lot of research into his background ) that he may have had a hand in Malcolm X's death, that for me makes it almost impossible for me to accept him as an authentic black leader, having said that there is the possibility that he may have experienced deep remorse and may have decided to dedicate the rest of his life to the upliftment of black americans, however question marks still remain. AAinEqGuinea has raised a lot of good points about the modus operandi of many so called black groups in the US. Tariq Nasheed is a charlatan, misogynist and coon and refers to himself as a p.imp. Nasheed treats afrocentricism as just another way of hustling money out of black people, you only have to watch his back and forth videos with another youtube coon by the name of Tommy Sotomayor to know that he is a low life.

Farrakhan's past leaves a bad taste in my mouth, he may be a charismatic and brilliant speaker but for me his past actions overshadow his present deeds. I have also heard that he was a COINTELPRO agent - not sure how true that is.

Shymm3x:


Lmao!

Brother, I see you're trying to bring Dr. Marc Lamont Hill into this (thanks for the video) to win the debate. In case you don't know, Dr. Lamont Hill is my mentor. He has been my mentor since 2008, and we exchanged emails a few times while I was in Uni about career choices and academic progression. We've similar backgrounds, albeit in different countries, but can relate to each other's stories. And reading about Malcolm X changed his life, just like it changed mine. Free Mumia Abu-Jamal! Peace to Assata Shakur. And peace to the black gods.

That said: is Mayweather really insecure, lacks humility, and delusional? He isn't perfect and rather than say these things about the man - I'd wager that he has a chip on his shoulder due how he was raised, and where he's from. That comes with the territory and I can relate to that. You might want to feign ignorance, but both Tyson and Ali also had a chip on the shoulder when they were at their prime. Apart from being from a particular race and a background where most folks either die by age 21, or end up in prison - when you're at the top and you're brash as they both were - the media will always create the image of the good vs. bad to sell tickets. Both Ali and Tyson were also portrayed as "bad guys" at their prime, and they both had a chip on their shoulder, the same way Mayweather is right now. Yes, they're now down to earth in retirement - but that doesn't negate who they used to be. So, why critique only Mayweather for what they were also guilty of?

Err, just celebrate his achievements, especially what he and Al Haymon are doing for the sport of boxing and how much he has been able to make with his own company, employing black folks - while keeping the money in the community - than hate on the man. Carl Frampton just called Al Haymon the most powerful man in boxing a few days and he had nothing but praise for him. Ditto the biggest boxing promoter in the UK, Eddie Hearn, and how he has been sucking up to Al Haymon of late and how he's trying so hard to work with. Both Carl Frampton and Eddie Hearn are white. Also, almost all boxers are signing to Al Haymon now (he has over 100 boxers signed to him) and by the end of next year, I won't be surprised if every notable boxer out there is either directly under Al Haymon or with a partnership deal with him. Floyd Mayweather made that happen through his skills - and Al Haymon gave him the marketing/business blueprint.

Black brothers achieving great things unlike the Ali and Tyson era when they were slaves to white people. Don't hate, just celebrate greatness, black man.

Its good to know that Marc Lamont Hill is your mentor he is a very intelligent guy and I respect him for his acheivements. I have always marvelled at his quick and erudite mind, however you must remember that he is on the payroll of the western media, he used to work for Fox and I think he now has a permanent slot with Huffington post. So he is being used by the western media as a mouth piece. Having said that I still like him and I think he was very empathetic towards Tyson in that interview and showed him the kind of respect that a white interviewer wouldn't have.

Going back to Tyson and Ali - neither of them had a chip on their shoulder. Infact Ali had absolutely no chip on his shoulder as he grew up in a stable home with both parents and had a middle class (by black American standards at the time) upbringing. I would say that Ali was and is a well rounded individual with a very strong sense of self that only comes about when a child is brought up surrounded by love and security. This is why Ali's self esteem was so high. Ali used his extremely high self esteem to his advantage as he used it to psychologically defeat his opponents in the ring. If you watch Ali's tactics they centre around bragging, boasting and posturing, all of this came from his extremely high self esteem.

Ali made up for any shortcomings in his boxing skills by wearing his opponents down with his bragging, insults and posing. Tyson was not mentally as strong as Ali, but what he lacked in mental strength he made up for in physical strength. Also Cus helped to build his self esteem using affirmation, love, hypnosis and providing him with a stable loving home environment, all of these helped reinforce Tyson's self belief. If you check Tyson's fights whilst under Cus's influence you will see an invincible warrior who can not be stopped. Check Tyson after Cus's death and whilst under Don King's influence you will see a man who has stopped believing in himself due to the departure of the one person who made him feel worthy. Tyson has said many times that boxing is not necessarily about physical strength but mental strength, Cus used to tell Tyson " your mind is not your friend, you must learn to conquer it or it will destroy you".

If I am to agree that Ali had any grouse at all with the white establishment I would say that it would be that he was sick and tired of the daily humiliation and disrespect that was part and parcel of life as a young black man in the US in the 1950s. This humiliation and disrespect did not get better even when he became the heavy weight champ as he was regularly denied service in white restaurants and hotels . I would therefore say that he was more than justified to feel insulted and slighted after everything he had achieved. But I would not say he had a chip on his shoulder, Ali was a very up beat individual, cheerful, ebullient and charismatic. It is these very qualities that posed the greatest threat to the system of white supremacy and hence the decision by the white establishment to silence him with so called Parkinson's disease.

Tyson being a child of the 60s grew up in slightly different circumstances but he still had to contend with extreme poverty and racism, he was a victim of white supremacy and almost paid the ultimate price, however good fortune shone on him and he was saved from the terrible fate that awaits many black men in the western world ( ie early violent death or prison ) by Cus D Amato.

Bragging and posturing is what boxing is all about therefore Tyson's intimidating behaviour and Ali''s insults and psychological browbeating of opponents is all part of the weaponry that boxers use in defeating their opponents. Boxing is a dangerous and savage sport, you can not go into the ring and beat the sh.it out of your opponent unless you are psychologically psyched up, boxers HAVE to boast, brag and act in an intimidating way in order to defeat their opponent psychologically.

Many of Tyson's opponents were defeated even before they stepped into the ring with him.

Its so refreshing to see a wealthy, good looking black man marrying a beautiful black woman FOR A CHANGE!

Usually its a wealthy good looking black man with a plain or average white woman.

They are equal to each other in looks (both very good looking)

They look lovely together and their children are likely to be very good looking. Hopefully they are equal internally.

nice one

And you can see the racist scum aka british media praising this braindead i.diot and her accomplice Sowere.

I am sure that these two hungry id.iots are now on the payroll of british intelligence organisations who will simply use them and dump them when they are done with them.

Sowore you are a complete disgrace to sell your soul to the most racist set of scum bags on this planet aka the british media. You will come to regret this uneccessary embarrassment of a man who had the courage to stand up to the system of white supremacy.

Shame on you Sowore for being a cheap sell out, as for Adeola - I pity you, because after your handlers have finished with you, you wont even recognise yourself.

I've lost the remaining respect I had left for Sahara reporters, why is this stu.pid fool asking Mugabe when he's going to step down when her own country is in a mess?
I have no problem with how long a leader stays in office as long as he gets the job done, your own leaders who claim to practice democracy WHAT HAVE THEY DONE FOR YOU LATELY!!!!

Adeola - have you heard that your naira is in freefall? Have you also heard that your incoming president has no intention of probing the thieves who have been robbing your country blind for the past 15 years?

Don't focus on your own problems keep focusing on other people's problems in order to make yourself feel better.
Take a look at your own so called democratic nation where thieves hide under the umbrella (or umblella according to mama piss) of democracy and rob you blind,

Take a look at your own country which for the past 55 years has been run for the benefit of the British Empire and you have the nerve to challenge Mugabe who drove out racist leeches from his country.

Why don't you ask Obasanjo what he did with all of the money he stole, or ask Jonathan and his wife how they have been able to steal billions from their own people and still be given a heroes welcome by their braindead and re.tarded people.

Adeola - some advice for you - keep your mouth shut and focus on your own problems, if your country were so great you wouldn't have to run away to the US and live as a second class citizen.

Beautiful couple

This is just the beginning, the Buhari's will make the Abacha's look like impoverished church rats by the time they have spent 2 years in office.

Shymmexx - Thanks for posting that interview, I enjoyed listening to Mike as his views on life are always interesting.
By the way Iron Mike was just giving an objective professional opinion about Mayweather , deep down he can't stand insecure, delusional Gayweather. Gayweather lacks humility, is extremely insecure and uses money to cover up the gaping hole in his soul ,why would any self respecting person look up to him? Ali and Tyson are real, down to earth and genuine people who realise that money is not the panacea for happiness.

Here's Marc Lamont-Hill interviewing Tyson:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUQUs4JUbkA

So many sick bas.tards in Nigeria, I feel for the young girl, for those cracking jokes about the rape imagine if this were to be your younger sister or daughter, I hope those punks are caught and punished, sadly in Nigeria there is no such thing as justice. If you ra.pe a woman in the western world say goodbye to your future.

@martinosi

by the way Venezuelans pay less for petrol than Nigerians and as far as I am aware have not suffered petrol shortages.

The bug eyed bi.tch needs to be arrested for her multitude of crimes against the people of Nigeria.

martinosi:


I got to disagree with you on this one CAP28...having been privy to some of the conversation raging around the Oil Industry
External Operators, Local Operators, and the general direction of the industry..she just made sure that the
bus did not go backward while making some internal repairs....

The main fact that she averted a venuzuela episode of mass hardship due to the tank of the
oil price that is a plus...and when your Oil Minister is even making Agricultural deals happen
for Nigerian Businessman and woman as swap for Crude make you wonder what the heck was
the Agricultural Minister doing....she used her clout on the international stage to bring in the
foundational investment for other industries...i cant hate on this woman knowing what i know....

She is rotten and corrupt to the core, she rents private jets to ferry her family all over the world and spends extortionate amounts of money on designer clothes , jewellery etc . Her whole demeanour and attitude towards her own people stinks of contempt and gives off a vibe of "i am so much better than you". I am sorry but making a few minute changes which do not impact the average man on the street does not make her a good person. Should we really be praising people for doing what they are supposed to do?