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thamesmead you are spot on - this journalist below was threatened by another western journalist with DEATH!!! if he didnt stop reporting THE TRUTH of what is actually going on in libya!!! the western journalist (who was a CIA agent posing as a journalist) was staying in the same hotel as him in tripoli and was eavesdropping on the honest journalists conversations, the dishonest journalist then went back to his masters in washington and reported the guy - the guy was threatened, at one point he thought he would be handed over to the rebels to be tortured and killed - i still dont know whether or not he was tortured as he seems traumatised in his recent videos.

here he is while still in tripoli, the hotel he was staying in was surrounded by the rebels and he was terrified that he was going to get killed, fortunately for him he happens to have been born in canada and was able to get out of tripoli by boat to malta - he is now back in canada:

thamesmead - listen very carefully to what he says about NGOs and various other so called human rights organisations.

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Nigeria - you are well and truly under attack from the CIA - now you will begin to understand what it feels like to have your nation totally and completely hijacked the way libya was hijacked by NATO terrorists and their traitor accomplices.

anyone who still beleives that boko haram is an islamic outfit run by northern nigerians needs help - this has CIA written all over it.  do you want to tell me that a nigerian terrorist outfit would dare threaten to attack the nigerian defence headquarters?  remember how libya's fake uprising started?  was it not military barracks and police stations that were the first to be attacked? it was only much later that the british boasted in one of their newspapers (the telegraph) that they were on ground in libya as far back as January this year fomenting all of the chaos that precipitated the ongoing turmoil in libya.

its time to wake up - nigeria is under attack from the west - this is no longer a joke.

this is bull sh.it as owobokiri said NATO are engaged in a massive disinformation campaign (psychological warfare) because they are not in full control of Tripoli, not to talk of sirte, and other pro gadaffi strongholds, to make matters worse many of the NTC officials are frightened of moving permanently to Tripoli and i even read a report that said that at the moment "its too dangerous for them to move to Tripoli permanently"  why?? i thought they captured it, why is it too dangerous for them to remain in a place they claim to have captured?

this rubbish about gadaffi's troops crossing the border into Niger and now nigeria is pure garbage, i know that gadaffi has a lot of supporters in Niger and burkina faso has also offered him political asylum but he has not fled libya - these NATO scum are trying to make his supporters (of which there are many in libya) beleive that he has given up.

Dont forget that gadaffi's entire army remains intact, it will regroup and launch a counter attack against these rebel scum this is what NATO are terrified of, lets see how NATO will be able to finance a permanent presence in libya when their nations are crumbling into bankruptcy.

we Africans need to unite and drive out these european satanic forces as they intend to remain on the african continent permanently in order to "secure" our resources away from the hands of the chinese.

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You are so on point

why are we so heartless and uncaring towards our own - no wonder its so easy for people to exploit us - imagine what it must be like for those poor women in that camp, imagine the trauma of their husbands or boyfriends knowing that every night a gang of thugs will force their way into the camp and ra.pe their own women in front of them, imagine the feeling of powerlessness and dehumanisation the men and women must feel being at the mercy of these gangs every night with no one to protect them.  Have you noticed how low key the western media's response is to this situation?  do you think they would treat this in the same way if white women were being rap.ed by these criminals?

Goodluck Jonathan is a failure on so many levels but his recognition of these racist criminals makes him look like a fool, it shows that he is weak and powerless, he is basically telling the world that nigerians are fair game for anyone to trample on - if a president of the so called giant of africa can sit back and allow racist thugs to r.ape and kill his own citizens and his response is to recognise that same govt that is committing these heinous acts then that means that Jonathan is indirectly telling the world that we are rubbish and anyone can do what they like with us, in a nutshell he is really saying to the world - i dont give two shits about my people, you can kill them, rap.e them and brutalise them all you want - for me its all about getting my own cut of the oil revenue, everyone else can go to hell.

this is not the first time the nigerian govt has abandoned its people to racist mobs in libya - in 2000 a race riot broke out following clashes between some nigerian migrant workers and some libyans - the riot claimed the lives of hundreds of nigerians and some tried to run into the nigerian embassy to seek refuge - apparently the doors were slammed shut in their faces by the nigerian embassy officials who claimed that they did not have "legal documentation" , many of these unfortunate nigerians were then abducted and lynched by the libyan lynch mobs.

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YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ABOUT BLACK NATIONALISM BECAUSE YOU ARE A BRAINWASHED HOUSE NEGRO, ALL YOU DO IS MAKE EXCUSES FOR THE TYRANNY OF YOUR OPPRESSOR - GET OFF YOUR F.CKING KNEES AND LEARN TO BE A PROUD BLACK MAN NOT AN APOLOGIST FOR WHITE SUPREMACY.

Biko found black men like you totally repugnant - thats why he described them as men in form only - he was talking about you.

Ever since i have debated with you all you have ever done is defend capitalism, defend privatisation, defend the free market - policies which have brought africa to its knees - every free thinking black man knows that capitalism is destroying the world but you think its the best thing ever invented by your white master - Biko wanted aparthied south africa to redistribute the wealth it had stolen - when i debated this issue with you you defended the white minority and said they had every right to hold on to their stolen wealth, remember?  YOU ARE A LIAR AND A TRAITOR TO THE BLACK RACE - YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF BLACK PRIDE.

Capitalism is not a consequence of racism - capitalism CREATES racism - capitalism enables those who own the means of production to control the lives of those who produce wealth, it allows a small powerful elite to exploit and hoard wealth and divide people along racial lines - the slave traders in america used their wealth to consolidate themselves in power and subjugate and oppress black african slaves, white south africans used their wealth and power to consolidate themselves while keeping black south africans in a position of permanent subjugation - this model has been repeated all over africa.


By the way black nationalism is about securing the interests of BLACK people first NOT black and white people - its about putting the well being and interests of blacks BEFORE the interests of any other race - THAT IS WHAT THE WHITE RACE DOES AND THAT IS WHY THEY ARE SO POWERFUL.  Only brainwashed blacks talk about including people of other races, why didnt the chinese talk about integrating with europeans in order to develop as a people?  

you are so far gone that whenever a proud black person speaks out about the necessity to unite and develop as one people you call it "black extremism" - thats a sign of inferiority and subservience to the white man's social conditioning.

Biko saw capitalism as a form of white supremacy whose aim was to keep black south africans in perpetual mental and economic bondage  and he railed against it  and advocated WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION OR SOCIALISM - capitalism EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD creates inequality not just in south africa but that is not the only reason why biko rejected it - his major reason for rejecting it was because of the evil that manifests from it - this is something that you are yet to understand because you have been brow beaten by the white man's educational system to think that it is the only viable economic model to follow - this is why you defend it even though you are a victim of it.
I can see taht you are now backpedalling and have now resorted to denying that you are an apologist of capitalism - what a shame!

i can also see taht you are trying to make things up as you go along - what is a black free thinker?

is that your own way of saying you dont know what you are talking about?

what ideology binds a black free thinker - can you define what that ideology is?

what do you term black extremism and why?

on the one hand you say black extremism is not based on anything  then you confuse yourself further by saying that the black extremist beleives that the answer lies at the extreme point of an ideology? what on earth are you talking about.

the truth of the matter is this - black nationalism is an ideology based on the ability of the black man to have total control over his destiny which means control over his own politics, education, entertainment, employment, food, law and order, religion, media and defence - once the black man is able to totally control all of those things he is no longer a slave and a pawn in the hands of other races - the white race have total control over all of these things thats why they are in a position of power, the black man has no control over any of those things thats why he is under the heel of the white man - but in your book a black man having control over his own destiny equates to BLACK EXTREMISM - do you see why i call you an uncle tom??

GET UP OFF YOUR KNEES TOM AND GROW A PAIR OF BALLS!!!

THE GREAT MAN HIMSELF!!!!!!


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Oh and by the way morpheus - F.CK you - Farrakhan is here to stay, he has many loyal followers and is a well respected black nationalist, intellectual and leader in the african american community - you on the other hand are

Morpheus

I have no idea why all of a sudden Biko has become one of your heroes - you support everything that this man hated.

Biko did not beleive in capitalism which you are a staunch supporter of, he wanted a total and complete overhaul of the aparthied structure because of the inequalities it had created and advocated socialism - but you are an advocate of free market capitalism, neo liberalism and privatisation.

Biko hated the way blacks had been degraded in their own land and recognised that it was due to 300 years of "deliberate denigration and oppression - you on the other hand do not even admit that racism exists and instead claim that these are excuses used by blacks to make up for the failures in their lives.

Biko beleived in black consciousness - you dismiss it as black power garbage - it is for this very reason that you criticise farrakhan.

You are not mentally, psychologically or politically aware of the black struggle against white supremacy - you actually stated on one thread that america is not an imperialist nation and that imperialism does not exist!!!

How then can you make such a gigantic u turn and start claiming to be a fan of  Steve Biko who was one of the most vociferous critics of imperialism and racism ??

On numerous occasions you have referred to black nationalism as extremist and yet, and yet here you are getting excited over a man who had this to say about racism and oppression:

"The logic behind white domination is to prepare the black man for the subservient role in this country. Not so long ago this used to be freely said in parliament, even about the educational system of the black people. It is still said even today, although in a much more sophisticated language. To a large extent the evil-doers have succeeded in producing at the output end of their machine a kind of black man who is man only in form. This is the extent to which the process of dehumanization has advanced.”


or this:


"The basic tenet of black consciousness is that the black man must reject all value systems that seek to make him a foreigner in the country of his birth and reduce his basic human dignity."

when i read the above quote it reminded me of your desperate attempts to defend the ongoing economic rape of africa by the international financial institutions and multinationals.

I think it is quite obvious that Biko was a man who very clearly understood what white supremacy was and sought to fight and expose it, you on the other hand DENY that it exists and yet you are now seeking to allign yourself with a man who shared the same ideology with Louis Farrakhan - a man you abuse out of pure ignorance.

YOU ARE VERY VERY MUDDLED IN YOUR THINKING, MAKE UP YOUR MIND AS TO WHETHER YOU WANT TO REMAIN  A MAN IN FORM ONLY OR A PROUD BLACK MAN WITH A DEEP UNDERSTANDING AND APPRECIATION OF THE BLACK STRUGGLE AGAINST WHITE SUPREMACY!!!!!!

Tell me something i didnt know

his past is chequered but not chequered enough to stop the americans supporting his presidential campaign and ensuring that he won the elections - he's a stooge, the americans like their stooges weak, cowardly and dumb - so he's ideal as far as they are concerned.

Beaf:
Libya has only 6 million people, but has more oil than Nigeria. At 150 million, our population is 25 times the size of theirs, therefore, it is logical to conclude that Libya should be at least 25 times better than Nigeria, but it isn't. Just like us, they import everything and the Gaddafi clan lived in obscene opulence.
Libya should really look like Dubai, but comparatively it looks like shiit instead. its not the money alone, there were massive human rights violations going on, eg several hundred Nigerians were executed for simply being in Libya illegally, his own people too, died like flies at his hand (for example when the uprising was just rioting, Gaddafi chose to use bombs and fighter jets on civilians).

. . .Thats why Gaddafi is being chased by his own people the way they would chase a rat or a stray dog; people even shipped in from far of places in Europe to join the fray to get the mudafuka out. It shows you the strength of feeling against his regime.

nigeria has the second largest oil reserves in africa after libya and yet life expectancy is 48 years while libya's is 75

nigeria generates on average $35 to $50 billion from oil revenues per annum and yet most of its infrastructure is in a permanent state of decay, its people live on less than a dollar a day and have to leave the country in order to make ends meet.

incidentally there are thousands of nigerians in libya as we speak who ran away from the grinding misery and poverty of nigeria  to libya where many of them were living and working and had access to libya's free health care facilities, something they could only dream of in nigeria

nigerian politicians like goodluck jonathan have nothing to offer nigeria except mass looting of the state treasury - even before he became nigeria's head of state he along with his wife had already looted over $30million dollars from the bayelsa state treasury and now that they are in office jonathan and his wife have one of the world's biggest entourages with hundreds of freeloading sycophants occupying meaningless govt positions.

gadaffi used libya's oil revenue to provide free education and free health care to its citizens

the nigerian govt has spent the last 25 years cutting spending on education and healthcare and is responsible for lowering the living standards of the average nigerian - the majority of nigerians live in abject poverty while the useless nigerian leaders live in unbeleivable opulence as is evidenced by the numerous palaces belonging to undeserving theiving politicians.

as if  nigerians havent suffered enough jonathan and his world bank stooge are currently getting ready to plunge nigerians into even more poverty and desperation by removing the subsidy on petroleum products.

goodluck jonathan is a paid and trained house negro who dances to the tune of his white supremacist masters while gadaffi is  a pan africanist freedom fighter and revolutionary - no nigerian leader  to date has achieved one zillionth of what gadaffi acheived for his people

human development rank for nigeria - 142  for libya  - 53 - i think the difference is clear

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Cap28 leave these ignorant Idioootas.


I already replied the dunce making fun of immigrant workers. Spambot got me.

He's making fun of hard working people who contribute more to society than most of them ever will. These same idioots ridiculing hard working day jobbers will be here next time to praise a lazy credit card scammer and yahoo yahoo criminals.

Nigerian immigrants remit over 10 Billion dollars USD to the Nigerian economy annually.

Hopefully the spambot will release my Ealier post soon. Too Many children on NL sha  [/quote]no worries bro, people like him are forever lying to themselves, but these are the same people that are forever camping outside foreign embassies pleading and begging for a chance to escape the supposed heaven they claim to live in in nigeria - they are complete losers.

publisher:
@cap28: i want to asume that u live in the uk? Good. Please tell me,out of all the chinese,indians and pakistanis who own shops,restaraunts and other businesses in london,how many of them have university degrees? If they do,how many times do they make reference to it? U see,its blacks like u with deep inferiorty complex that spoil the image other other progressive blacks who travel abroad in order to expand their frontiers,and bring business back to Africa. Why wont oyibos maltreat your type? your type are always liabilities with nothing to offer your host communities except cheap labour unlike Asians and some smart Nigerians. The Nigerian group psquare and mohits crew recently had successful concerts in london,did u attend any? Did any white group or persons molest them? Didnt they just jejely make their money and return to Nigeria? And u are there sweeping subways and washing toilets with your Bsc in Economics from Ife. Nna stay there o, mugu!

yes i do live in the uk and no i dont sweep subways neither do i wash toilets as i was born here and have two university degrees. I have nothing against people who do those jobs though because without those people our cities would be stinking cesspits just like the ones you live in over in nigeria.

Funnily enough the people who do those jobs earn far more than educated illiterates like yourself who live on less than $1 dollar a day, they also live far beyond the age of 45 which is the life expectancy for adult men in nigeria and they do not die from minor illnesses unlike the average nigerian.

In addition the average menial worker in the western world enjoys good healthcare, clean and sanitary accommodation, 24 hours of electricity, a secure environment and a reliable and affordable public transport system. Apart from your worthless piece of paper which you call a univeristy certificate but which i would rather call toilet roll you have absolutely nothing to crow about in nigeria.

Now i can see that my comments about you being an educatd illiterate really burned you - well tough - if you cant stand the heat stay out of the kitchen, there is no need to get defensive about university degrees when you were the same person who referred to those of us here in the west as as security guards, dishwashers and adult diaper changers, sadly your own condition is far worse than the lowest menial worker in the western world and therefore you are in no postion to sneer at anyone who is doing any of those jobs here.

I am not even going to try to educate you on the struggles of black people against institutionalised racism in the western world because you are too ignorant and it will be a waste of my time and your time, instead i will leave you to continue to wallow in that deep fog of ignorance which you seem to be inhabiting quite comfortably, i suspect that its even too late for someone with your level of deep seated ignorance to learn - as it is almost impossible to teach an old dog new tricks.

by the way i am the complete opposite of someone with an inferiority complex, i have no reason to have one as i see through the entire facade of western civilisation unlike you who would wish for nothing more than to get a visa to come here and probably do the same menial jobs you are pretending to turn you nose up at.

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thanks bro

you are absolutely spot on about african americans - There is a documented case of an african american man who was walking down the street in his army uniform with his wife.

both he and his wife were accosted and racially abused by a mob of whites who said he had no right to be wearing the uniform , both the man and his wife were then lynched in the street by this mob - that was america in 1919.

whites have not changed in their feelings towards blacks -they've just suppressed their feelings because now such demonic acts attract very harsh penalties.

publisher:
Its high time Nairaland moderators find a way of banning Nigerian dishwashers,security guards and adult diaper changers based in Europe from making comments on serious issues concerning Nigeria. Their levels of frustrations has probably melted certain sections of their brains.
I'm serious o!!!

nothing could possibly be worse than an educated illiterate.

An educated illiterate lives in a cocoon of ignorance where he exists in fog of self importance and delusions of grandeur, the educated illiterate is a creature to behold as his limited "education" has misled him into beleiving that he has an understanding of the world he lives in when nothing could be further from the truth.

The only time the educated illiterate gets a wake up call is when he leaves the shores of nigeria and gets a kick up the backside, it suddenly dawns on him that all these years he has been in nigeria he has been like a deaf, dumb and blind man staggering around in the dark, only then does he realise that he has been cocooned from reality.

its at this point that he realises that his so called nigerian certificate is worth about as much as a used piece of toilet roll in the western world.

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@ Builder,
Thank you for your last post. I keep on saying that the reason why Africans are suffering everywhere is because they have been placed where they are by their fellow wicked black men but people are quick to point finger on the white man. If we are fine in Africa, will anybody think of going abroad? To get job in Nigeria, preference is given to foreigners by a black boss. When a black man is in thesame position with a white man in Nigeria, the white man is paid far more than the black man, but if a black man is in thesame position with a white man in a white mans country, they are paid thesame amount.
Why do we treat the white men like a god? That is the basis of the problem. People run abroad to face racism and lack of human respect because their country doesn't have anything better to offer them. Africans need to come together and think of how to make their life better rather than looking up to Europe/America/China for solution because that is the only way we can get respect from other race.
Have you notice that Haiti, the only solely black country in America is as poor as a typical African country and they got their independence from France as far back as 1804, just 28yrs younger than the United State(1776) and we can see the difference in both countries

the problem with you is that you do not analyse problems from a world perspective - you look at things from a very narrow perspective and as a result you present a distorted picture with a lot of missing pieces - you can not analyse nigeria's problems accurately unless you look back in history because nigeria's past has a lot to do with why nigeria is in its present predicament.

nigeria is not a sovereign nation - it is still controlled externally by britain and america - economically via the imf and the international oil companies.

politically -nigeria does not have an independent leader that makes decisions that benefit its citizens, instead nigeria's leaders make decisions that beneift western oil interests.

militarily - nigeria relies heavily on US and british military aid to keep its army operational

economically - nigeria's economic policy is dictated from washington and london and its economy has been restructured to suit the dictates of the international financial institutions -

all of the above leads to - MASS POVERTY, MASS UNEMPLOYMENT AND A COMPLETE COLLAPSE IN THE LIVING STANDARDS OF THE AVERAGE NIGERIAN.

with all of the above in play nigerians are nothing more than glorified slaves in their own land - this has been done DELIBERATELY TO KEEP NIGERIA IN A STATE OF PERMANENT ECONOMIC BACKWARDNESS.

it has all been made possible by the west's total control over the nigerian ruling class and the removal of any group of nigerians who might pose a threat to this plan - thats why no progressive nigerian has ever been allowed to lead nigeria - from all of the above factors it is clear to anyone with common sense that the west has and continues to work actively to keep nigeria in a permanent position of economic and political subservience.

this is the reason why nigerians leave the country - if there are no jobs, no prospects and no hope in nigeria the end result will be mass migration.

nigerians place the white man above their own people because the majority of nigerians have no political or historical understanding of how the world works - many do not understand anything about racism or imperialism, this ignorance leads many nigerians to see the white man as their friend, notice that blacks in the west have a completely different understanding of the world because they have lived at close proximity with whites for a longer period and they understand how white people's minds work.

the nigerian educational system does not help as it brainwashes nigerians to look up to and respect whites and at the same time look down on their own. christianity teaches the nigerian to worship a white god and look upon his own african gods as primitive and heathen - what you get at the end of this is an african who has been educated to feel inferior to a white person -  that is why a white man in nigeria can come into nigeria and get a better job and live in better accomodation than a nigerian - no nigerian immigrant can dream of competing for the same job as an indigenous white person and expect to be paid the same amount of money - the whole idea about western recruitment of immigrants is that they are a source of cheap labour.

finally Haiti is the only black nation in the world to have defeated three imperial armies - france, great britain and spain.  they were also the only black nation that succceeded in freeing itself from enslavement.

the reason that haiti is poor is because after it sucessfully fought and defeated its former slavemasters  -  france, america and the imperial powers of europe  ganged up on them and imposed a 60 year trade embargoe on them which caused their economy to collapse, this was to be their punishment for having the guts to free themselves from slavery.

go and read up on the haitian general Toussaint L'ouverture and Dessalines who were both black african slaves who led the defeat against the imperial powers.

in addition haiti was forced to  pay france compensation for their loss of slaves and territory - all of these economic burdens crippled and destroyed Haiti.  as if that wasnt punishment enough haiti was invaded and occupied by the united states in 1915 for 20 years, its economy was hijacked and american sponsored dicators were then imposed on the people of that country who systematically looted the country before absconding to live in opulence in france (all with the tacit approval of france).

There is no where in the world where africans/blacks are treated with respect - this war in libya should now serve as a warning to all black people all over the world that we are not safe - especially where we are in the minority amongst europeans or arabs - if there is to be a breakdown in law and order in europe or america, blacks will become targets of racially motivated attacks just like in libya because europeans also nurse the same feelings of hatred towards blacks that arabs do, the only thing restraining them here in the western world is law and order.

this is a tragedy and the nigerian govt must act now before all of those people are murdered by those rebel gangs - the lady in the video clip has no idea what she is up against - the UN will never lift a finger to help any african person - what she doesnt understand is that the UN are the same people who gave the go ahead to NATO to go in and drop bombs on innocent men women and children in libya, they dont want africans in europe and they certainly wont be lifting a finger to help the ones stranded in libya to cross into europe. They're only interest is in securing libya's oil reserves for america, britain and france's oil companies  - they couldnt give a sh.it if all the africans in that country are wiped out by these rebels, after all this ethnic cleansing of blacks has beeen going on since march when the rebels took over benghazi but no western media reported it even though they knew about it.  The western powers do not respect africa or africans and this is why they have totally ignored the pleadings from the AU to resolve this war peacefully.

The only way out for these nigerians is to keep on appealing to the nigerian govt to evacuate them and those of us out here need to shame the nigerian govt into moving into action as fast as possible -if not these people will die like chickens at the hands of these rebels.  Remember Rwanda ?  how come the UN didnt intervene then  ? america was fully briefed of the situation on the ground there and they knew that the hutus were rounding people up and cutting them up with machetes but they did absolutely nothing, the same thing will happen here if the nigerian govt continues to do nothing.

NATO would never have succeeded in doing what they did to libya if africa were united, if we africans had formed our own army like NATO these gangsters would be running scared by now- africa now needs nuclear weapons and a united african army made up of all 53 countries in order to be able to defend itself from these satanic europeans.

black libyan govt soldiers:


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Gadaffi's many achievements for libya, long live muammar gadaffi and death to NATO and their collaborators:

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more nigerians and ghanaians being arrested and clamped in jail by libyan racists thugs:

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The only thing that nigerian politicians are good at doing is speaking big grammar - using words like "truncate" and generally blowing hot air like the empty vessels that they are. When it comes to actually doing anything constructive to help their own citizens these imb.eciles begin to faff around like the useless fools that they are.

How difficult is it to send a plane to evacuate your own citizens from a war torn country? as for that so called ambassador he should have been fired the minute he stepped onto that plane to malta with his family as he is a complete coward and a disgrace to the people of nigeria.

this is why i still marvel at the way nigerians continue to give these scumbags the benefit of the doubt - i think it shoudl be crystal clear to even the most foolish nigerian that the nigerian govt doesnt give a shi.t about any of its people.

Look at the way they plead like subservient dogs before this gang of racists - dont they get it? dont they understand that arabs HATE black africans - are they really so dumb that they cant see that this killing of black africans is about arab CONTEMPT for blacks and nothing to do with the fake story about mercenaries.

this racist gang must be killing themselves with laughter at the total cowardice of the nigerian govt and its abject failure to protect the lives of its own citizens, why would anyone respect a nation that kowtows to its enemies?

and tomorrow some fools on here will talk about how we as nigerians should be proud of our nation- why would anyone want to be proud of a govt that fails to protect the lives of its own citizens and even SIDES WITH RACISTS AGAINST ITS OWN PEOPLE

I have always known that goodluck jonathan is a complete failure - but this action of his of recognisiing those racist gangs in libya will go down in history as one of the most morally bankrupt actions that any living head of state has ever made - shame on goodluck jonathan and the nigerian govt.

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the funny thing about your misplaced patriotism is that the average american would never favour you in any way over his fellow american - and if there were to be a breakdown in law and order in america today you would be a target for white lynch mobs just like the black africans in libya are.

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only brainwashed blacks  like you make excuses when your own people are brutally murdered by gangs of arab lynch mobs. 

If any white person were to lose their life in libya at the hands of these mobs  i can tell you now that obama would be facing impeachment and a lot of death threats.

Do you not see the irony in a man who claims to have african blood running through his veins  funding and arming a bunch of racist murderers?
Thats equivalent to say someone like joe biden or joe lieberman funding and arming the aryan brotherhood or the neo nazis or even the ku klux klan.

why is it only black africans who reason like fools? 

to go back to your quotation - what is "hard" about overthrowing a legitimate government with the aid of superior airpower (NATO)?

What is hard about killing defenceless innocent black men, rap.ing their wives and killing their children?

what is hard about selling out your own country because of your own selfish interests?  not one of those rebels has any sincere vision for libya - unless you call looting the national treasury in cahoots with the western oil companies visionary or the imposition of sharia law.

this is not a revolution - it is a counter revolution by reactionary western puppets - the real revolution happened in 1969 when gadaffi got rid of a british puppet by the name of king idris - king idris enriched himself and his cronies and left the rest of the country in a state of penury, gadaffi who was a true nationalist liberated the country, developed it into a modern state and improved the living standards of the libyan people - something your own nigerian govt has failed to do in 50 years.
libya is the only arab nation where blacks live on the same level as their fellow arab libyan citizens - in places like mauritania,qatar, yemen and saudi arabia many black africans are literally kept as slaves - but these are countries that enjoy excellent relationships with the  US.

by the way the so called american revolution was quite happy for slavery to keep going - so it was hardly a true revolution - infact these same so called revolutionaries who fought to rid themselves from the yoke of british imperialism turned round a few years later to fight for the right to keep black africans as slaves - dont you find that contradictory??

Lets face it Obama is nothing more than a tool of white supremacy, a puppet of wall street who has no say on anything affecting the vast majority of americans , all he does is follow his masters instructions, you make me laugh when you say his job is to protect american citizens - if only!! havent you noticed that unemployment is rising under his tenure - and guess what? its goign to keep rising because that is the plan - not by him but by the real people who run america - the banks and the multinationals. have you noticed the amoutn of jobs that keep being offshored to china, india, brazil and africa -  in a way i dont blame obama because he is frightened of going up against some of the most powerful interests in the world -  the last american president who tried it got his head blown off in full view of the world (JFK)

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=749081.msg9067246#msg9067246 date=1315025312]http://www.bet.com/news/global/2011/09/01/libyan-forces-now-persecuting-blacks.html.html[/quote]I read the article from the bet link - now i see why a lot of black kids in the western world are totally ignorant of whats going on in the world, BET - its owned by viacom isnt it a white media conglomerate? why would they be interestedin desseminating the truth?

thameamead:
the "U" in the African Union stands for USELESS, the rebels are executing black african migrants, Desecrating their wives/girlfriends while the African Union look on, i called Amnensty International this morning about the killing of innocent black african migrants by the rebels this morning, the scumbag at Amnensty was quite rude to me, he asked me why African Leaders and African Union were not speaking out, I told him these atrocities were on youtube and he advised me to get intouch with African Union, these human rights organisations are pick and mix hypocrites. Even the Nigerian High Commission in London were not helpful either when i called them on wednesday to voice my concerns, i was told there was nothing they could do despite the guy telling him he saw the footage of Nigerian men bn slapped around by the rebels on a news channel.

i applaud you for actually trying to do somethign to stop this ongoing ethnic cleansing that the rebels are carrying out against all black people in libya but remember that organisations like amnesty international are funded by the same govts that are creating this mayhem in libya, many of the people in these organisations have links with british and american intelligence and go into many african countries acting as spies for their respective govts.  Remember humanitarianism is the excuse that NATO are using for their intervention, organisations like USAID, the red cross, oxfam undertake covert spying activities in many countries they are in under the cover of providing humanitarian assistance.  if you read up on latin america you will find out how many so called humanitarian organisations were involved in espionage activities, so im not suprised that you got that kind of response from them.

african leaders with the exception of gadaffi, mugabe and to some extent zuma are all pawns of the western govts so dont expect anything from them.

To give credit where its due the AU have tried to resolve this issue peacefully, remember earlier this year they appealed to both sides to agree to a ceasefire but NATO refused to honour it!!! effectively overuling the AU on an issue that concerns their own continent!!!  can you imagine africa intervening on an issue affecting europe and overruling a decision made by europeans? but this is what happened to the AU - this should tell you that africa is not under the control of african leaders but by the europeans and americans.  How can a crisis concerning africans not be resolved by africans?

There is nothing the AU could have done other than what they did - which is to keep pressing for a peaceful resolution, at least they have refused to recognise the racist govt of the TNC.  The person you should condemn is goodluck jonathan who went as far as distancing himself from the AU's decision and standing with the europeans and the americans who hate africans.  Goodluck Jonathan is a traitor to his race and to his people, what he has done can be compared to a  jewish leader recognising Hitler's nazi germany - only someone totally under the control of the west would lower themselves to such a level.

NATO will not win this war in libya - you can not rule over an armed population that hate you, unless NATO is planning on remaining in that country forever - i cant see how this is going to work.

the whole of Gadaffi's hometown - Sirte have refused to surrender, tell me how NATO plan on dealing with that situation?  i suppose they are going to keep dropping bombs on men, women and children in order to force them to surrender

for those misguided fools who keep thinking they are free in nigeria - you need to wake up - you are ruled by cowardly errand boys of the west, these cowards do not make any decisions concerning nigeria's economic or foreign policies without first consulting their masters in washington and london. Gadaffi was an independent leader who created his own ideology as set out in his Green Book,  the white man does not want anyone to deviate from his own ideologies that is one of the reasons why Gadaffi was demonised. Gadaffi's ideologies promoted social justice and equality, thats why the black libyan tribes were given the same standard of living as the arabs in their country, go to saudi arabia, mauritania, yemen, sudan  and egypt and you will find that black people are still kept as slaves by the arabs in those countries and yet do you hear your beloved west speak out against those countries? no, the despots who rule those countries are their best friends - george bush senior and junior, the clintons, cheney and rumsfeld all  have very close ties to the corrupt saudi royal family.

the al khalifa royal family of qatar are murderous gangsters but they are business partners with britain and  america , they were even allowed to buy up a very expensive british department store  for the rich in london known as harrods , so stop thinking that these europeans give a poo about justice, equality and freedom.  Dont forget china has one of the world's worst human rights records in the world and yet america goes on their knees to them begging for credit to help keep their bankrupt economy afloat.

NATO is the military arm of a criminal gang which runs the world, their aim is to recolonise all african countries with valuable natural resources or countries that are of strategic importnance in terms of where they are located like somalia, sudan and eritrea which lie close to an important oill shipping route (which they want to control) .  Europe and america do not want to see the economic development of any non european nation, they have succeeded in most african countries by installing puppet govts and crippling them with debt, libya was the only country in africa who had an independent leader and it wasnt indebted to the IMF and the world bank unlike almost all african countries (nigeria included) .

black libya i think you are 100% spot on - this sub saharan tag is used by the white supremacist as code for "black africa" - everything they do is based on dividing people up into groups based on race, religion, language etc but race is one of their favourites, they use these divisions for their divide and rule games which are designed to suit their own insidious purposes.

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An abridged version of Gadaffi's which was broadcast yesterday:

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thats the only time you can think of that he faulted - how about when he borrowed billions of dollars in loans from the world bank and left the tab with the nigerian population when he was the military president of nigeria?