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Ibime:
Easy.


Ings
Grealish
Sancho
Foden
Mount

Between Foden and Grealish, I don't need another AM (Madison) hence went for Mount who can also work CM.

You are correct I chose Maddison because of his form, but I think Mount will be better for versatility.

If am Southgate. I will play 3-5-2. Pope; Stone, Maguire, AWB; TAA, Chilwell/Shaw, Rice, Henderson, Grealish, Rashford, Kane.

afrodoc2:
Brazilians have never rated Copa. They often send undermanned teams for the competition.
For e.g Pele played for Brazil for 14yrs and in that period he attended only 1 Copa and did not go for 4.

Yeah. But Copa is a continental tournament. Whether Brazil rate it or not doesnt make it less relevant. For example British teams dont rate Olympics. Its not an easy tournament to win. Just like saying AFCON is useless because Nigeria dont rate it. Especially as Abacha ordered super Eagles to boycott the 1996 tournament because of his rift with Mandela and also did not enter the 1998 tournament.

raumdeuter:
You know Brazil withdrew Neymar their main star from the Copa just for the Olympics.

Copa wey be say na almost every year dem dey do am these days

It doesn't matter what Brazil did, the fact remains that Copa America is a continental competition. Equivalent to AFCON and Euros and wining it is very huge. That competition has teams with 9 world cup wins and 14 world cup final appearances between them. Its safe to say that apart from World Cup and arguably Euros, Copa is the next biggest international competition in the world. And you know this dayo

Trevor012:
You're Gareth Southgate

You can only pick FIVE of these players to go to Euro 2020 in addition with Kane, Rashford and Sterling.

Dominic Calvert-Lewin
Mason Greenwood
Phil Foden
James Maddison
Jadon Sancho
Callum Hudson-Odoi
Jack Grealish
Tammy Abraham
Patrick Bamford
Danny Ings
Mason Mount

Who do you pick?

Sancho, Grealish, Ings, Foden and Maddison

raumdeuter:
Kahn CL winner, made a world cup final

Shebi Navas sef made world cup final

You expect Keylor Navas to make world cup final with Costa Rica. Infact on the balance of things. Navas led his country to the their highest ever finish in their history. Whereas before 2002 Germany have reached WC finals 6 times winning it on 3 occasions.

Although I respect Khan sha. He is a class act and an icon no doubt.

raumdeuter:
The trophy Brazilians have the least value for. So valueless that they withdrew players like Neymar from 2016 Copa America so they can focus on Olympics

Eeeeem dayo. Sometimes make you surprise us small na. Copa America is an equivalent of Euros, Afcon, Asian Championship etc. These competitions are only lower than World cup. Nawa for you oo. Copa America is a big big big big big tournament to win. A tournament comprising of Chile, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Colombia, and Mexico is not a small tournament.

MRTA7:
Donny's confidence is completely shot.

Its not just confidence. His style of play is nit siuted for EPL

Oasis007:


VDB is a waste of £££££. He's talented, yes - but not suit to our Style of Play at all. He's gonna flourish at Man City or Barcelona. If he wanna excel at United under OGS, he needs to stop playing "e no go spoil for my leg" style of play.

He will not flourish at City. Pep like midfielders with excellent ball retention ability. VDB doesn't have it sadly.

tot:
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E pain am. Village girl

tot:
So, why are you wailing online? Who asked you for your life's history? Heya, sorry

You are the person that delivered your life history, with your village mentality not me. What do you know about me. Local girl

tot:
CapitalDunce Go and help yourself first. Poverty wired brain.

Ode. I have never been poor and never will. I have too much to feed your entire generation. The way you speak clearly show you are poor and wretched. Clearly you live in a rural area. You dont know what credit score is, you are local.

tot:
Yada yada yada. E pain am

It can only pain an idiot local champion like you. Send me your account number let me help your life, you seem to be living in a thick village.

tot:
Another ignoramus on the loose. They won't read before they start barking all over the place. Go back and read the initial comment before you start hyperventilating. Do you know her earnings? Yeye dey smell.

By the way, it is it's and being, and don't you dare lie on autocorrect So maybe you should school yourself instead of obsessing over someone else's financial life.

You are an idiot and the greatest ignoramus i have seen this year. You are a local champion who keep correcting people's spellings in social media while showing clear lack of knowledge. Have you left whatever wretched enclave you were born into in your life? I doubt it. If not you will not be speaking ignorantly. Someone is trying to school you local champion on the operations in other countries where he clearly has more knowledge than you, instead of you to humbly learn, you are showing your shallow mentality instead. I pity the man that will be unfortunate to put you in his house, with this your idiotic disposition.

tot:
Keep quiet! Which auto-correct will spell Europe as eroupe.
Illiterate that does not understand car financing is here writing rubbish. Did you not initially claim the authorities will question a person who buys such a car? Now you have changed it to credit score yada yada yada after I mentioned car finance.

As I mentioned earlier, poverty has clearly re-wired your brain.

My friend keep quiet you have been schooled, everything the guy said is truth. I dont care whatever she does to buy anything its none of my business. But in US and major European countries, your spending must be commensurate with your earnings, hence credit record. Stop bieng unnecessarily cocky in your ignorance

afrodoc2:
Don’t play smart and place words in my mouth. Nobody cares about accomplishments that were not with United.

Our argument was over who was the most clueless United manager and the answer is Moyes a million times. I was not arguing about who was more accomplished with you but who was more clueless during their time at United.

I don’t care if Moyes goes ahead to win the UCL with West Ham. That is not the argument.

When he was at United he was the most clueless manager we have had in modern history.

Whether he is intrinsically a better manager than Amaka but just had meningitis that year is a different debate, but for that season 2013-2014 he was and still remains the most clueless I have seen at United.

Ok Moyes is more clueless at united, let me take my initial comment as a hyperbole.

afrodoc2:
I can’t illustrate to you enough how much i don’t give a phuck about what Moyes did at West Ham or East Ham.

I am talking about their records as United manager.
The lowest placed United manager in the last 30yrs is David Moyes. And he inherited defending champions.

He took us from no1 to no7 in one season.

We went from perennial champions league participants to not even qualifying for Europe( UCL or even Europa) for the first time in 25 years. In one season.

If you want to push your OleOut campaign Moyes is not the example to use.

Eeh Moyes didnt do well at man united and its a one off, I forgive him. But Ole is clueless

handelex:
Mou's first season we finished 5th.

Mou's 2nd season we finished 2nd.

Mou's 3rd season, sacked while 6th.

Ole comes in halfway and finishes 6th.

Ole's first season we finished 3rd.

Ole's 2nd season we are currently 2nd with half the season gone.

You forgot that within that Mourinho tenor. We won League cup and Europa, while at least qualifying from our champions league group. What Ole couldn't do

handelex:
So a washed up team that was the defending champions suddenly become good enough for 7th, not even a top 4 finish?

A drop from fergie to Moyes is huge.

Karleb:
This your conclusion tire me o.

So you mean Moyes could have won the league if he was given enough time?

Ole has not won anything yet and its going to 3 years now.

afrodoc2:
This is just a bunch of excuses. In 7 years time people will make better excuses for Amaka. If Moyes had just dropped us from 1st to 3rd or 4th you would have a point. 7th loun loun!

Moyes dropped 6 spots in one full season. Amaka has not done that yet.

Moyes cleared out a multiple title winning coaching staff and brought with him the who’s who of nothing to coach. Amaka brought back title winners to help him coach.

Moyes told Rio and Vidic to watch tapes of Jagielka to improve their defending.

Moyes is the apotheosis of cluelessness. Say no revisionist history.

Back to chilling on my fence.

Are you saying Ole is a more accomplished manager than David Nwoye?

Lana1:
Lol. Have a nice day.

That's your opinion.For me Klopp is not better than Mourinho. Both started coaching same time. Mou started with union Lieira, Klopp started with Mainz same time. Let look at their trophy cabinet.

handelex:
Lol.

CapitalC already said he inherited a squad that came 2nd a year before he was appointed, so it's a good enough squad while he's busy defending David Moyes that inherited a title winning team with proven winners and yet 7th was the best he could achieve.

A title winning team with washed up Vidic and Ferdinand, retired Scholes, Giggs who os a shadow of himself, Declining Rooney and Evra, and injured Van persie. What is remaining in that team?
A title winning team that lost the drive of. Vidic, Rio, Rooney, RVP, EVra, Scholes, and Giggs. What is remaining? So you think because fergie won the league with that team they are as good? Fergie that used Brown, Oshea, Rafeal, Fabio, Cleverly, Welbeck, Gibson, Evans and Young to win titles.

Leyqute:
Compare how much we spent after Mourinho left with how much City spent on defense alone

Calculate it lets check something. Today we must Calculate this money they saud pep spent.

handelex:
Newcastle.

You're now a Moyes fanboy?

E be things oo.

It was Fulham ogbeni i watched the game. Darren Bent equalised in the dying seconds after Carrick and Van persie turned the game around.

Lana1:
Sarri had been coaching before I was born. Maybe that means he should be better than Pep too if we follow ur logic.
Na here we dey when many guys here were hyping Mourinho's appointment while Pep went to City. Now all we hear is "See Pep...see Pep"

The Glazers you guys keep telling us are trying are the same ones who let top managers like Ancelotti, Pep and Klopp slip their grasps so that they can hire the Mourinho's and LVG of this world.

I dont disagree that Ole is average. When the time is up, Ole will either step down or be sacked. But what I wont do is join you in crying about it.

Ole's time is up. Anybody that is excited about Mourinho's appointment is wrong, that it didn't work out as expected with us doesn't still make him a bad manager, name 3 managers that were more successful than Mourinho since he started coaching. Klopp is not a better manager than Mourinho, one can make a case for Pep and Ancellotti though.

Sarri can start Coaching since 1900, but that is the reason he is not having any job at the moment, he is not good enough. My point is Ole is not suitable for a club like Man united. Simple.

afrodoc2:
He should continue his OleOut campaign and just forget this Moyes narrative.

Moyes that sat down and watched as his team made 81 crosses at Old Trafford against the bottom team and still didn’t win the match.

Dey spam crosses like G boy.

That was Fulham at least he got a draw. Ole lost to Sheffield United at old Trafford a team that was on course for an EPL lowest point total until Ole did saraka for them
Look at Moyes West Ham position in the table this season, a club he took in relegation battle last year. The last time Ole took a team like that, he sent them to championship and was about sending them to league 1 until they put him out of his misery.

handelex:
So this is the defence you can come up with?

You don't have any point.

Ofcourse perpetual Oleiners will never see any point, so far its not a way of lowering our targets to Europa standards and allow him to be messing up.

Lana1:
Give Pep this team. Give Pep this team.
As if say we no know Pep is lightyears better than Ole.

Comparing Pep and Ole is like comparing Ronaldo and Lukaku.....pointless!!!

Ole and Pep started their managerial careers almost the same time. They are age mates, stop behaving as if Ole just retired like Arteta or Rooney. So why will a team like Man United go for a manager who is lightyears behind their rivals and expect to win anything? That's the mediocrity we are talking about. If Ole is not up to the task he should find his level so we can find a world class manager to challenge for top honours. There are vacancies for championship and league 1 clubs he can start from there.

afrodoc2:
Nah not accepting that. Amaka had half a season and the team was already in trouble when he took over (which was exactly why he came in mid season anyway).

Moyes took a team from 1st to 7th in one season.
BIG DIFFERENCE. You can’t compare sleep to death.

Maybe it is because Amaka’s case is still fresh and Moyes was a long time ago but trying to compare what is happening now to what Moyes did devalues your OleOut argument.

When you make good points i will be the first to support you but indirectly trying to whitewash Moyes record? Kolewerk.

Moyes Bleep up yes but lets take things into perspective. Moyes took a team that finished 1st, but with Ferdinand and Vidic the world class starting CBs in thier last hurray, Vidic and Ferdinand concluded their transfers mid season, and both of thier careers effectively ended almost immediately. Rio was very useless at QPR, Vidic couldn't pick up at inter, scholes retired, Giggs became bit part player, Rooney has started declining, Van persie was injured almost the whole season. What was left for Moyes was bare bones, and he came in after the retirement of the greatest manager in British football it will be hard to cope, and moreover he only got Felliani that season.
For Ole, of the current regular starters only Maguire, Bruno and AWB were not there when he joined. He already has a goid team that finished 2nd a year before. Ole has this knack of losing when the pressure is high, he doesn't know how to win ruthlessly, he is naive, he is not competent, he is simply not good enough. Moyes might have performed badly but there was no evidence to suggest that if he is given more time he wouldn't have done better.

patrickmuf:
City won't struggle...I am certain if Pep handles our squad and Ole handles City, in no time Man City fans will start saying we have the better players...

The urgency in the passing of Man City players, their positional awareness and pressing isn't down to the players but tentamount to a well drilled team...

Doc said I should make peace with the fact that Ole is average but how do you make peace knowing that we are headed to no where with Ole as coach? Aren't we wasting the talents of our current crop of players?

Is it not when we realized that Mou has reached his peak with us especially when he started causing trouble that most folks here gave up on him? How long before we realize that nearly isn't what brought us thus far? We always managed to win irrespective of the conditions but now, we seem to find excuse for every set back...

Dont mind them. they think the clueless ole will achieve anything even if you give him Brazil 1970 squad. Give this united team to Guardiola, 1 year later you will see what the team will turn into, Ole cannot perform more than his abilities. He started coach about the same time with Guardiola but look at their trajectory.

For those that care to remember, the Barca team that Pep took over in 2008 is a very unbalanced and dilapidated, one year later he is winning the treble. Give Ole that kind of team, we will only be hearing of complaints here and there.
Today we complain of attack, tomorrow we complain of midfield the next is goalkeeper and then defence, every time with Ole nothing is ever balanced. If Ole did not play for Man United, will he ever smell the managers position at Manchester United?

handelex:
We are Manchester United bla bla bla, we shouldn't be lowering our standards...

When last was this team realistically close to challenging for a title talk more of winning it..

When elite coaches like Van Gaal and Mou were brought to win the league, did they even throw in a competent challenge?

Mourinho was on record saying coming second with this team was his best achievement at United, we were hailing him oo, a proven winner and it was not mediocrity then

Now everybody suddenly understands mediocrity as if they know Jack shit about coaching.

After Mourinho left. We spent almost 300m pounds byt still cant finish the same 2nd.

afrodoc2:
Calm down bruv. This is recency bias.

David Moyes is the most clueless. Confirm.

Lol. Doc. David Moyes was not given the kind of opportunity ole was given. Ole finished 6th in his first season, Moyes 7th. Who knows how moyes would have done if he was a legend and was allowed to continue like Ole.