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NextD18:
2 goals 3 assist. Total of 5 G/A in 12 appearances.

Name 3 Chelsea midfielders that got that stat without penalties.

No mind them. I remember very clearly Mata was very important. He even won Chelsea footballer of the season how is he inconsequential?

raumdeuter:
How is Leverkusen a powerhouse? Powerhouse of where? Maybe we will call Spurs too a powerhouse

Ballack played the CL final with Chelsea, and was on the way to winning until John Terry struck

Balack played in Bayern and chelsea why disnt he win it

raumdeuter:
Thiago Silva played the CL final and he cost his team the trophy, never made the CL finals despite being from a football powerhouse and playing for top clubs. The only final he made, he dropped a disasterclass
Boateng played the world cup final was one of the best for his country and club

Oya find the parrallels

What of Ballack that played in Bayern, Chelsea and Leverkusen teams who are also power houses. Yet Mata played for the same team Chelsea and made the difference

raumdeuter:
Matas usefulness to the winning team was all 3mins in an entire tournament. While others were playing over 400mins, Mata was only good enough for 3mins. Obiously Spain won it without his contributions

And UCL in Chelsea nko, he was inconsequential too? Mata dragged Chelsea to Champions league glory. Assisting the goal in the final. Ballack could not

NextD18:
Reason he shouldn't be used in the same sentence with Mou and Pep.

His fans should know his level.

Lol. Mourinho and Pep are leagues and by far have greater managerial careers than Klopp. Klopp won just 5 major trophies Mourinho won 20 plus small small ones wey i no wan count.

raumdeuter:
Champions League is the biggest club competition where all the top teams meet. Anyone can win a league title dependng on the country you find yourself and the club you are managing

Gerrard is about to win a League in Scotland how do we compare him to Zidane who won the League in Spain?
How do you compare who is better between Ahly who won Egyptian league, Kano Pillars who won the Nigerian league and A team who won the Maritius league

You said it all it depends on league thats why i mentioned EPL titles and not Scottish league. Ndubuisi Egbo won Albanian league, but in terms of prestige even uefa conference league is higher. Europa league for example is higher than scotish, Danish or polish league, but Bundesliga and Ligue one are a bit bigger, even English FA cup is almost equivalent. UCL is the biggest club competition in Europe, but EPL is of equal status. Even the Gerrard you mentioned have won UCL but not EPL but till today he is still rueing it. Liverpool won 2 UCLs within that 30 years drought period but not EPL, people still talk of it. So UCL does not completely overshadow EPL for example. It might be for teams like Bayern, PSG and co that win thier leagues easily but not for English teams and EPL.

raumdeuter:
Mata was so consequential that he played a total of 3 minutes in 6 games to win the Euros. Of all the players Spain took to the Euros, Mata will be one of the least consequential

And yet scored and assisted in the Euros final, but Ballack with all his minutes could do nothing in the biggest stage.
By Dayo's logic Mata is greater than Ballack

raumdeuter:
Mata barely played a role in the winning of the World cup, he was merely a decoration on the bench while Ballack took his team to the final which he missed because of a suspension and his team lost

Amalanomics lol. Was it not the same thing you used in dissing Thaigo Silva?

Mata Played almost all the matches as Chelsea won UCL. He even assisted Drogbas goal.

Ballack had 2 opportunities at UCL final and did nothing.
He played Euros final and also did nothing. Mata scored and assisted in Euro final.

By your logic Mata >>>>>> Ballack

raumdeuter:
Ballack took his country to the world cup, What has Mata and Wijnaldum done for their countries?
You even posted Mata that was a decoration on the bench when Spain was winning

Spain played660mins to win the world cup, how many of it did Mata play

Mata Scored and Assisted in the Final of Euros. Assisted drogbas goal in UCL finals.

Ballack played 2 UCL finals and did nothing, played Euros final and did nothing.

By your logic Mata >>>>>> Balkack

raumdeuter:
Klopp has won the biggest cup which is the CL and made the final 3 times

How many times has Emery and Cuntay won it or even made the semi

And they coached top sides like Juventus Chelsea Inter PSG Arsenal. There is none of those sides not better than Mainz

So Di matteo is better than Allegri and Conte?

raumdeuter:
Ballack took his country to the world cup finals, what has Mata and Wijnaldum done for their country?

You said 1 gold is better than 10 silvers.

Ballack 0 world cup, 0 Euros, 0 UCL, 0 Europa/Uefa cup.

Mata 1 world Cup, 1 Euros, 1 UCL, 2 Europas.

By your logic Mata >>>> Ballack

raumdeuter:
1 gold medal is greater than 10 bronze

What are the achievements of these coaches in the CL

Champions league is not totally better than everything. Roberto DiMateo has won 1 UCL, he is not better than Arsene Wenger, Allegri, Emery and Conte. Ancellotti has won 3 UCL is he better than Sir Alex Ferguson and Guardiola who have won 2? Lol. Dayo you done begin this your amala turning. UCL for example is not completely better than EPL title they are somewhat equal in terms of prestige.

NextD18:
Alaye list Klopp and Emery's total number of trophies and stop running around.

Klopp has managed for 2 decades, list his trophies let's compare to Emery's.

Klopp's trophy return has been poor.

raumdeuter:
Klopp has managed Mainz Dortmund and Liverpool
He has won 1 CL and made 3 CL finals

Allegri + Emery + Cuntay = 0 CL and 2 finals Managing Sevilla, PSG, Chelsea Juventus Inter AC Milan

You forgot to mention that they have 12 league titles and 10 premier national Cups between them. Plus Emery alone has won 3 Europa leagues and made 1 finals, beating klopp in one of those. Allegri has reached 2 UCL finals too. Thats 25 major trophies between them.

Klopp has won just 3 league titles, 1 UCL. and 1 DFB pokal in 20 years of management. Thats a pretty poor return. Mourinho for example has won 20 major trophies in the same number of years including 8 league titkes , 2 UCL and 2 Europa.

raumdeuter:
Everything gets levels. Zaha is Palace attacking threat, Pepe was Lilles attacking threat. Hazards level is Chelsea.
The moment these players tried to upgrade their level, they crashed
Chelsea used to be a top team in Europe before Hazard joined making semi-finals and finals easily.
If you notice, the moment Hazard became Chelsea's main attacking threat was when they stopped becoming a threat in the CL

7yrs before Hazard Chelsea made 2 finals, 3 semis, 7yrs of Hazard they made 1 semi

But he causes opposition teams problems at least

afrodoc2:
Of course Hazard is better than Pepe, Bebe, Nene e.t.c

It was when they started comparing him favorably to his fathers like Messi, CR7 and his big bros like Neymar that we had to caution them. We could not ignore the plethora of evidence revealing his weak mentality and his lack of vision.

There is no excuse that they did not give (and continue to give) for the fat and gluttonous dancer. They claimed for years that their own club was holding him back and if he went to a big club he would be the best. Now his egungun don cross express and water has found its level, and he has been exposed to be pants.

This place would have been inundated with videos, gifs, memes and the rest if he was shining in La Liga. The cautionary tale of Marina, her pant, and her buys is evidence of this.

The level of Ls this board has been recieving in this few months now is mind blowing.

Marina's pants.
Pius Hazard to Madrid.
Werner mighty.
Losing FA cup final after boasting of winning when it matters.
Towel man mendy.
Fraudvertz
Fraudulent fat Frank.

E remain 1 but i no wan talk fes

raumdeuter:
That is because Chelsea is a mediocre club, that was why Hazard was able to work for you. At the elite club he went to, he flopped hard. Same way Zaha is an excellent player for Crystal Palace

But to be frank to Hazard he is Chelsea attacking threats for years. Even though he doesn't score or assists much, he causes opposition teams a lot of problems and keeps the defenders busy. You have to give him kudos for that. Hazard id not bad all round

Capitalcee:
That's what people dont know. Apart from VVD and Gomez injuries liveepool have a number of problems.
First Salah and Mane are not in good terms and rarely pass to each other, Salah is not happy generally because it seems management and fans like Mane more than him and is ready to leave to show how important he is. Klopp plays specific style and only few players can execute it perfectly to devastating effect so his reluctance to change personnel so he is tolerating them.

TAA as a typical English man has lost a yard of form, only Robertson is still maintaining that level of quality, so their attacking oultlet which is their wing backs is not as wicked as last seasons. He did this at dortmund with Blaszczykowski and Piszeck at Dortmund. Simeone was the one that busted him last season, he used Partey and Correa to stifle TAA and Robertson, making their front 3 to be ineffective. So against them if we can deploy Mctoms and Fred to each of their wingbacks they are done. Keep Matic in front of our defence he is enough for their rarely engaged midfielders, Rashford will run riot against TAA and whoever between Philips/Rhys Williams they play.

Another point is they already have an ageing , They will keep having injuries here and there dye to years of gengen pressing and no rest or change in team members and klopp wont as extremely lucky as he was to gather same type of players, there wont be Barca again to scam 140m for Coutinho, their owners are like Glazers, they wont bring out plenty money, Klopp will eventually become tired and frustrated and run away back to Germany leaving a disjointed squad for Gerrard.

I wrote this few weeks ago, some Liverpool fans laughed me off. Lol.

Klopp is a very good manager and will continue building teams but was very very lucky with sales and recruitment within 2016 to 2018.
These were the key reasons Liverpool did so well these few years, i always knew they will be brought down to earth at some point and soonest.

1. Extremely perfect but very lucky signings. Mane, VVD, Salah, Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Robertson and Allison, then somehow Nathaniel Clyne got injured and never regained his place and career. TAA benched him absolutely. That sequence of signing only happens rarely.

2. They somehow got 148m for Coutinho and 20 million for Sokanke. Which they used to splash on Ox, Fabinho and Allison. No sane team will ever buy Liverpool players that insane amount anymore at least for the forseable future. Thats why they will find it difficult to sell Sallah and Mane now, Madrid has learnt a bitter lesson from Hazard likewise Barca on greizmann and Coutinho. Even PSG are becoming shredwder now due to FFP, morever Salah and Mane are Africans and are 29, i wouldn't be surprised if they are on thier way downhill. Before they buy now, thier stingy American owners will have to spend heavy.

I dont see Liverpool getting back to thier best anytime soon it will be downhill from here, and Klopp will eventually run away.

. J

SammyFX:
Ole should start cavani in that game and use three attackers to threaten their defence

Start which cavani. Abeg make Cavani rest abeg. Greenwood and co should play. We need our best players ready and fit for EPL games

afrodoc2:
Too optimistic.

Yeah i know but we should be winning those home games apart from may be Liverpool. Our away form is fantastic. I even see us getting something away to city

raumdeuter:
You no see as Baba Berlin wall dey jog follow Vardy for here

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T.Silva low key is just dropping disasterclasses small small, i have been watching him closely. He is finished. Chelsea need a new pair of CBs

Our remaining 9 home matches West Ham, Fulham, Sheffield United, Newcastle, Brighton, Everton, Southampton, Burnley Leicester, and Liverpool. If we can get 30 maximum points here and get 17 points of the away games out of 27 points. We will have 87 points. Its possible. The only dangerous away games we have are City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Villa, Spurs and Wolves. We get 8-12 points from this fixture and beat the rest.

GloryIsaac:
KDB went off injured. Potentially won’t play the next match against West Brom. Increased chances of dropping points.

I noticed they dropped intensity immediately he went of. Its remaining for that Dias to be injured to and then stage go set

bantamx:
Oga with the way things are going this season I doubt if the winner will reach 80points.

City are in form now and will win many games, they are not conceding goals. I was poised to be an 80 point season but if they continue the way they do . It will be 90 points. I am very confident we will reach 80 points. We are already in 40 points with 19 to play. 57 points on offer. I doubt if we will lose another 17 points. I see us getting 82-85 points.

Karleb:
To win the league, we should be looking to get 50 points from the next 19 games I doubt if 80 points will be enough to win this league.

With this man city form. I reckon 90 points. Those guys sef. I think say Pep don finish. I just pray they somehow drop form

The cavani signing is now looking like a masterstroke

Lana1:
Pogba keeping us top of the league 2 weeks straight.
Weedtaker madness incoming!!

He got the PK versus Villa. 3 match winning moments with 2 weeks

olabode89:
Chief, just collect the 3pts and move on. Fulham practically parked the bus for two thirds of the game. We created chances and won the game. There were some poor defensive plays but at least we didn't lose the game.

I am happy with the points bro. Just worried about how most of our players are out of form.
I am thinking now that among Liecester, Liverpool, City and US we have the least number of players in form and clearly the underdogs

Expert17:
Was missing at Anfield, same today.

Has been missing all season

3 points bht very poor performances.
Excellent performances though from Pogba, Cavani and Shaw again.

How cavani has applied himself with workrate, intelligent runs and mentality is the problem we are having over the years. Martial and Rashford leading our frontline needs a review.

Ole need to just get Halaand for any amount.

eph12:
The quality of our attacking play is unsurprisingly low. Passes either rushed or poor.

Go and watch city game. Their players are very very good on the ball, and dont misplace passes and i think thats what pep priotises. VDB will be a very good player for sleek interplay but Ole doesnt have that kind of gameplan, his own is pass when you like and in sha Allah. Thats why he hasnt been able to find a role for VDB.