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Oasis007:
We need to cut down our Expectations on the Team, especially winning the League. If we end up second it's actually not a bad Campaign, but it should be capped with at least a Trophy.

City are on fire, they're far ahead of us professionally and tactically. They are playing very fantastic Football. You and I know Alladyce gonna pack Buses against them, yet they dismantled the Buses effortlessly with Missiles firing from left and right.

We really need to lower our Expectation to avoid being emotionally down and losing our sanity over OGS and his Babies, if eventually we couldn't win the League. I have not seen any sign that we are indeed in for the Title Chase.

We shouldn't be confused with our Wins, because our plays ain't convincing at all. Though I'll give it to OGS, to be honest he has tried and he's still trying to bring out something different from his predecessors.

Let's chase FA Cup, Europa League and hope to be second on the Log at end of season. If we win the League, it's gonna be a huge Bonus.

You just literally repeat what I said with a little dampener. My expectations are not high, I was among those who still maintained that a point at Anfield was a good one, A title race alone is a progress, even if we didnt win it. However, football is dynamic and it's not mathematics. When I and some others were predicting and hoping for a Liverpool slump here, we were shouted down, that its impossible, now what is happening? We can go 9 points ahead of them this evening.

If anyone told you that we will be 11and 6 points ahead of Chelsea and Liverpool respectively by this time will you agree? Considering the type of TW and early season form we had, we just have to keep plugging away and amassing important points as if we are fighting for the title and see what happens.
I still strongly believe that city will drop points. UCL and FA cup games are coming up and they still have Carabao cup final with spurs, their fixture list will be congested, their depth was tested at the weekend when they reshuffled the park vs Cheltenham and nearly lost, they had to bring in 5 substitute of their key players to turn it around. remove any 2 of Gundogan, Dias, Stones , they will be very beatable, Look at their match against a rusty villa at home, while they dominated, they required a mistake and a dodgy offside call to win, they could have easily drwn that match. They still have Everton, Villa, Arsenal, Liverpool and Leicester away and United, Chelsea and Spurs at home. You cant tell me that if they have a UCL quarter finals versus say Juve, Barca or Bayern sandwiching their games away to Arsenal, and LC finals to Spurs, same set of players will win all the matches? I dont think so. If they go ahead to win all or most of their matches, then they deserve it, coming 2nd or even 3rd behind won't be bad. The idea is win your matches and watch. Its possible.

For me a title challenge and 2nd or 3rd plus a nice cup run will signify a good season Considering where we were coming from.

Yes City is in form but this same West brom were hammered 5-0 and 4-0 by leeds and Arsenal. We are just halfway through the season. They will surely drop points. If we can win all our remaining home games and win the away games we can are expected to win, avoid defeat against City we can just edge it. When Liverpool won Spurs and beat Palace 7-0, everybody declared them champions, there could be a twist, we just need to continue plugging away and hope for the best. Even if we didn't win it, a title race signifies progress.
Our Home Matches : Southampton, Everton, Brighton, Sheffield United, West ham, Leicester, Liverpool, Fulham, Burnley and Newcastle. Who said we cant win these matches?

Away games: Arsenal, Chelsea, City, Spurs, Villa, Wolves, West brom, Leeds, Palace. We can draw or win the first 5 and draw the last four. Its possible

Kelvinsteve1000:
Just a bruise, nothing serious. But I don't think he'll start against Sheffield tho.

Even if he misses the next 2 games no wahala. I was afraid he will be out for long.

Nezzjnr:
Quote me you clown.... Don't be a coward

Your have clearly lost your sense of Humor because of your hate for Bruno.

When will you go back to your main BlueAngel account

When i was telling people that that one is not a United fan they thought i was just blabbling. We all the know the person behind that handle. No real united fan behave that way

afrodoc2:
Machine Greenwood giving all haters Ls.

We chilling and sipping hater's tears.

Thank you Doc. Fans are are joining pure haters to denigrate our players who they hate. This has been happening over the years to players like Ronaldo, Rooney and RVN. They have started it with Bruno but Bruno na tank him go just settle you with Ls sharp sharp.

Even this season that people are saying he has dropped, i find it very ridiculous, apart from one or two gamez where he is a bit off colour, his touches, ball control and game management has been okish even for a 19 year old. But some people go just join haters de overeact for nothing. I know his behaviour has been suspect recently but i mean he is still a teenager and will misbehave sometimes and make mistakes, Solskjaer is the right person to guide and manage him. I also saw Cavani teaching him some skills ansd techniques on the pitch yesterday, thats a glorious sight to behold, so he is in good hands, there are pure professionals like Bruno, DDG, Cavani, Matic and even Rashford in the dressing room to learn from.

patrickmuf:
I had to Google to confirm...25yrs and it feels like he has been around forever...For being one of his critic on these board, I have to admit he has shut me up with his performances since we signed Telles...

I was shocked too by his age. Then i realised that he went to 2014 WC as a 19 year old when he was still at Soton. But Blimey!!! Luke Shaw has been one of our best players this season . He is definitely in line with Cancelo as the best full backs in EPL this season. Yes he has outperformed Robertson this season

Maguire and Lindelof will not kill person. Any day they didnt sent someone for BP medications after every match will heaven fall?

Luke Shaw. Jezus Christ the guy just like a new signing. Cant believe he is just 25.

- Nobody is praising Greenwood now for a goal and assist. Look at the way he scored even with Robertson shouting to put him off.
And people are forgetting he is just 19

They said Bruno doesn't perform against big teams lol.

No be for Ole to summon Bruno make baba come settle this match like this?

Maguire, AWB and Linda competing on who will be the clown of the match

NextD18:
Willian is a Winger. List real midfielders and stop running away from the dare.

Dont mind him. Willian should be compared to Son, Rashford, Salah, Mane and Sterling.

Ibime:
Unproductive Willian has 75 GA in EPL Vs Matas 55 since Mata went to Manure

Willian is a complete attacker/winger in the mold of Rashford, Salah, Mane, Son and Sterling. That he is delivering poverty numbers does not suddenly make him an AM

NextD18:
He won't, because there's arguably none.

If we should use his analogy, we'll just agree that all Chelsea midfielders have been useless since Mata left because none of them can match that tally up.

Absolutely none!

Imagine trolling Mata! Smh!

Dont mind them. Chelsea know how to troll good players from other teams, according to them Mata, Matic and Fred are flops but they spent almost 200 million Euros on Bakayoko, Drinkwater and Fraudvertz even when some lady goes for negattions with no pantsz

Ibime:
The world-beater you thought you signed and the mediocrity you came to accept.

Congratulations on starting and scoring in the FA Cup final vs Crystal Palace.

Congratulations on playing the Carabao Cup final against Southampton and the Europa League final vs Ajax youth team.

Congratulations on taking Manure to EFL consistently.

Infact, congratulations all round.

I will gladly accept your congratulations

Ibime:
Ok, so 2 GA per year against big teams. Clap for yourself.

That's even counting Leicester and Arsenal who may or may not be big teams depending on the period you are checking.

Any other GA against big teams in his 7 years?

The bolded is a good return for a midfielder
He scored against Leicester when the season they were champions and the season after that. The year he scored against Arsenal Wenger was still the Manager. You still have not mentioned to me midfielders who has better records against big teams. Apart from may KDB.

This season.

Mata 656 mins 2 goals 3 assists.
Ziyech 774 mins 2 goals 3 assists.
Pulisic 1054 mins 2 goals 0 assists.

Ibime:
55 EPL G/A in 7 years with Manure, average of less than 8 per season. Keep counting Europa League assists where Mata took you to.

Mata was the game changer you thought you bought but the disappointment and mediocrity you came to tolerate. Accept it.

Mata has scored 17 G/A and Assists against Liverpool, Chelsea, Leicester, Arsenal, Juventus and City. All in EPL or Champions league. Count for me any midfielder in EPL with such record.

He also scored in FA cup finals. Starting all the Cup finals since he came

Ibime:
NextD18 and Capitalcee keep shouting 97 G/A for Manure and counting Europa League and worthless competitions he took them to. Like I said, if you want to count assists against small teams and be trounced in big games, Mata is your man

Mata only has 55 G/A in EPL in 7 years with Manure - an average of 7.8 GA per year in EPL as an AM with no defensive responsibility.

This is why nobody ever bought Mata in FPL.

It's a fücking disgrace.

Mata has scored 17 G/A and Assists against Liverpool, Chelsea, Leicester, Arsenal, Juventus and City. All in EPL or Champions league. Count for me any midfielder in EPL with such record.

OJURONGBE1:
Oga ibime, I've learnt alot from you on this thread but you see this Juan Mata yarn, rest on it abeg

No he should continue na.
He said mata has been poor in man u, that has been totally been debunked.
He said Mata was inconsequential in chelsea but won pkayer of the season the 2 seasons he was in Chelsea.
He said mata stat pads against small teams and failed to do anything against rubust teams. But he has contributed more goals against big teams that almost all the midfielders in EPL since he arrived man u.
All his accusations were all baseless and lacked merit

Ibime:
The league tables, his disappearance against robust teams and constant benching back me up. If you enjoy midtable mediocrity while counting assists against small teams, Mata is your man. He has been a target for opposition and cause of instability in your midfield and underperformance in your team and never showed up to take control of midfield consistently. I will remind you he is only 32 years old and has been a substitute since God knows when. Yes we love him for his charity and personality, and also for leading the scummies into years of mediocrity.

Constant benching?
Causing instability?
Underperformance and underperformance against rubust teams?
Mata only became bit part player in Man U since Mourinho arrived and you know the reason, how on earth is he causing instability in our midfield?

Mata vs Big teams since he came to Man U.

Liverpool 3 goals 2 assists.
Man city 2 goals 1 assists.
Arsenal. 1 goal.
Chelsea. 1 goal 1 assist.
Juventus 1 goal.

Thats 11 goals contributions. Not counting the 4 goals 2 assists versus Leicester. Tell me any chelsea midfielder in that time with such records
Mata scored an equaliser against Palace in 2016 FA cup finals to take the game to extra time. He has started all Cup finals since he came to man united, So what are you saying?

NextD18:
Since Mata left Chelsea in 2014 for ManU, he has scored 50 goals with 47 assists since then for manU, that's about 97 G/A.

No Chelsea Midfielder has reached that tally since Mata's departure. Yet he's a flop for manU according to one LampFraud fan.

If Mata flopped for ManU with those stats, then no midfielder in Chelsea has done well for the past 7 years.

He clearly doesn't like Mata. Dont mind him, his claims are very baseless. Since Mata came to Man U in 2014. No midfielder in Chelsea has contributed more goals and Assist than him.

Ibime:
Stop deceiving yourself. Mata is a Manure flop. It is known.

Thats in your dream, as you cannot back up your claims on anything. Mata is loved by everyone in United and has scored important goals.

Ibime:
He was a nonentity in our UCL run.

A shame that a 34 year old DM Lampard will be remembered as key to our UCL run while a prime Mata was a complete nonentity toward winning UCL and since you want to digress, the same Mata has since been a nonentity and flop at Manure in his prime years. 7 years a flop. No statistics you will mention about Mata at Chelsea that Lampard did not beat in his prime, and without being a passenger like Mata was, leading us to 6th position while claiming awoof assists in small games.

Where did you get this from? You have made a very incorrect comment. Mata started all cup finals for Man U since he arrived and was the Midfielder who has the highest G/A ratio in the EPL since he came to Man U, even higher than D.Silva. Bruno must have since bettered that. So how is he a Flop? If Mata is a flop and nonentity at Man then eveey single chelsea Midfielder is a flop since he left.

raumdeuter:
What was Matas role? 1 goal 1 assist in all knockout and missing the opening penalty in the final?

Ballack in the Leverkusen scored in the quarter and semi finals for Leverkusen and Germany, while Mata was benched for all but 20mins in an entore competition

What exactly did Mata contribute to Spain

Mata scored the decisive away goal versus Napoli, and assisted in the final thats his role. Ballack missed a sitter in the final and was not effective. You are blaming terry that kept Chelsea in the game. If Ballack had kept his shots on target and did not drift in and out of games, perhaps he would have won UCL

airmark:
I thought winning a world cup is not a team's achievement when you said Ballack got Germany to the World cup final.


Mata and Wijnaldum >>>>>>> Ballack and Debruyne

Yeah when its Balkack its not a team effort like he dragged Leverkusen and Germany, or when he was blaming Terry for Ballack failure to win UCL. But for Mata and Wijnaldum they are inconsequential even when they played vital roles in thier teams victory

raumdeuter:
You forgot to mention Terrys cluelessness throughout the game where he was repeatedly bailed out

Both games were decided on penalties Ballack stepped up as the first shooter, scored, Mata did the same and missed

If Ballack had scored the sitter he missed there wont be penalty shoutout. Chelsea wins.

If Mata had miscued his assist no penalty shootout Chelsea loses.

These are the things you fail to account for. The most important thing here is that Mata was decisive to his team victory, Ballack was not. You can wriggle out of this one

raumdeuter:
What was his contribution in the CL? Anyone can win the award based on performance in the League or other competitions
2 goals and 3 assists in a competition of 13 games isn't stellar for an attacking player
Throughout the knockout stages, Mata had 1 goal and 1 assist.

Amalanomics see as you are disecting Mata, Rooney only scored 1 goal in knockout stages of 2008 , so he is useless abi? Messi did not score in 2014 world cup knockout but was the player of the tournament, very soon you will soon say he only scored in the 2nd half of games. The fact is that among the midfielders in Chelsea he was the most decisive. 5 G/A for Midfielder including an assist in final is not inconsequential.

raumdeuter:
John Terry will be able to answer why he didnt win.
In the CL final Ballack played for Chelsea he took the first penalty and scored his penalty on the way to winning but John Terry struck
In the CL final Mata played for Chelsea he took the first penalty and he missed his penalty on the way to losing but Petr Cech struck

Can you spot the similarities and differencies

You are only looking at fine margins because it doesn't siut your narrative. You forgot to mention that Terry kept Chelsea in the game with a goal bound clearance from Giggs, while Ballack missed a Sitter to give Chelsea the lead.

Mata assist was very decisive in helping his team to victory, so are you going to say Ronaldo's goal waz inconsequential because he missed penalty?

Ibime:
Mata dragged what?

Bikonu respect yourself.

Mata was the most inconsequential player in our UCL run.

He was inconsequential but scored 2 and assisted 3 goals including 1 in the final. He was infact Chelsea's player of the season. What an inconsequential player he must be. Agenda must agend na

raumdeuter:
I will name 5 players more important to Chelseas CL win and wont name Mata

Cech Ivanovic, Cashley Lampard Drogba

Na dem Cahill Ramires Mikel go dey drag with Mata

How can you say this dayo. Mata was Chelsea player of the season in 2012. He scored 2 goals and assisted 3 including 1 in the final. Nawa for you oo