₦airaland Forum

Gerrard59:
Europeans who are jittery of the Chinese would now open doors to Africans? Why didn't they do it since considering we're closer in terms of history, culture and geography?

Well, we better negotiate as hard as the Indians in demanding for ease of visa rules. Maybe who knows, we re-do 1884.

If you have any inkling of what is unfolding on the global stage you will know that Europe is the grass that is suffering from the fight of the 2 elephants in China and the US. Their traditional industries are dying and under threat of extinction from the Chinese and they have no industry leaders in the new tech age. Europe has no Facebook, Twitter, google, invidia etc. They need Africa and their traditional African “partners” are severing ties with them.

It presents an opportunity for us because we can negotiate from a stronger position. Europe is screwed and dying!

The difference is China is invading them, we are not invading them. We are saying we can represent an opportunity for you to remain relevant and prosperous but not under a master servant relationship. We need your industries and jobs for our people you need our market and raw materials as well as an opportunity for your companies to grow.

MadamVanessa:



Adeleke second term is assured. Man is working.

Man is dancing

004gist:
Why are we in the rush? I a good question.

One of the reasons our production fell to 1.2m barrels was the delay is passing the petroleum bill.

There were no new investments in new or existing oil fields. Oil majors ignored Nigeria and went to other African countries. What we had decayed. Our lack of urgency is a major reason for everything from our poor production, to subsidy, to oil companies leaving, to fuel Scarcity to we experienced in the last decade. Estimates say we missed out on at least $50b in oil sector investments.

Delay in passing this tax bill means delays in reaping the benefits of the tax bill. If you say the tax bill is bad that’s a different story but to say why the rush means you don’t want progress for the country.

Ndume is fast becoming a clown! Imagine a senator saying the Petroleum bill took 10 years so why are we in a rush to pass the tax bill?

Enemies of Nigeria should make sure they have blood pressure medicines close by.

What manner of grammar from a journalist is “has been detaining”

Interesting fact since Portharcourt refinery and Tinubu’s visit to France is recent news:

Nigeria built a petroleum refinery before France.

The old Portharcourt refinery came into existence before France despite being an oil giant built a refinery.

Nigerias first refinery was built in 1963
France’s 1st refinery was built in 1964.

Salewa97:
Toh

The haters must be sweating profusely now. Na so bad belle dey cause

I swear! This is sky news o!

Anyiamaka:
That's actually the best the Yorubas can offer

At least the best we can offer became president.

Your own best was not good enough to be president. And it’s not looking like you will be able to produce one for at least another 14 years.

Na person wey become president dey mingle with other presidents.

So until you can produce a president stock up on your panadol and high blood pressure medicines.

Albertone:
So I’m a final year student of Business Administration looking to migrate after graduation(through study route). I have been told that that degree makes me a glorified clerk abroad.

I laid my hands on tech(web development). The saturation and absence of entry level roles threw me off. Also, I don’t enjoy it, I went into it because I heard it’s lucrative.
I regret not studying a STEM course, but there’s no need crying over spilt milk.

So far, I’m considering a career in Audit, management consulting, and investment banking.
I need ideas on what step to take next and which countries I should look towards please.

We are living in a world where degrees are increasingly becoming useless in the marketplace talk less generic unspecialized degrees like business or poor quality degrees like most Nigerian degrees.

What you need in the world are specialized certifications.

Someone without a degree but certification in programming, computer networking, nursing, project management, plumbing, etc is almost certain to have a better career than a graduate in degrees like business especially in the western world.

We are getting to a stage that medicine is probably the only degree that guarantees you a job and portability meaning you can move anywhere you want.

While we are busy demarketing our country, France is going all out to woo Nigeria. Recently the German chancellor visited Nigeria. Europe needs Nigeria, they are being squeezed economically by the USA and China in addition to their dwindling demographics.



2 things

1: The western world particularly Europe is on its knees and we should leverage that as a springboard to accelerate development partnerships on our terms.

2: I didn’t know Macron actually lived in Nigerian as a young man. It explains his close relationship with Nigerian leaders like Tinubu, Adenuga, etc

RZArecta:
you people are shameless. Go to Farooq Kperogi's Facebook page and weep at the way an insider used Nigeria Air to describe that refinery you're praising. No single Kobo out of the billions of dollars that went down the drain there will enter your pocket yet you're here defending like Taribo West. Reputation ko, Kilimanjaro ni

You clearly don’t understand English.

nedu666:
But buhari cut the ribbon for Niger Airways which turned out to be a scam

Please when you read, try to understand the message. I said the people like the CFO of NNPC who have put their name and reputation on the line over this Portharcourt Refinery matter are people too credible to be associated with a fraud. Who were the people associated with Nigerian air what was their reputation if any? Hadi Sirika a career politician and the presidents relative does not have the same credibility as a technocrat who worked for chevron for 20 years!

nedu666:
But buhari cut the ribbon for Niger Airways which turned out to be a scam

Please when you read, try to understand the message. I said the people like the CFO of NNPC who have put their name and reputation on the line over this Portharcourt Refinery matter are people too credible to be associated with a fraud. Who were the people associated with Nigerian air what was their reputation if any?

Too many people have put their names and reputations on the line for this to be false.

The NNPC CFO was on channels last night. He worked for chevron for 20hrs before moving to NNPC. That kind of person is not going to put his name to a fraud. He will rather avoid the interview. After all he is not the spokesman.


Interestingly we have not heard from the MD of PHRC

omowolewa:
After finishing the old stock the truth will come out

Fact and Truth would be separated soon

Abi?

Kukutente23:
Good. Good. I agree. So I wonder why Nigerians are so agitated by her posture

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I can’t speak for others. For me I agree with her stance on immigration both for the sake of Britain and for the sake of Nigeria. It is in neither country’s long term interest.

My issue with her is: enjoy what your British citizenship offers you without using your platform to slag off Nigeria at every opportunity for your own political gain. She is after all still a Nigerian citizen and her children even though mixed will always be of Nigerian Heritage!

Kukutente23:
That's not true. If you read the Wikipedia page, the mother went there to birth there to take advantage of the citizenship offer for her daughter. That's the story there. Don't add your conjectures

Lol. I hear. You have not given the precise definition of some or which of the sheep is plural or singular though

Bottom line, her parents did not settle there, therefore her parents are not 1st generation immigrants. Therefore she is not a 2nd generation immigrant. Technically she is not an immigrant because you can’t be an immigrant in a country you were born if the laws of that country recognize you as a citizen by birth or in the country of your parents. It in.does not matter the intent of the parents. This is why I say people like her are a special classification. She is a British born dual citizen.

The people who own the country and the language will never refer to her as an immigrant talk less 1st 2nd 3rd generation. When they are doing their stats of Nigerians in the Uk she will not be counted, when they are doing their stats of naturalized Nigerians or immigrants she will not be counted.

Kukutente23:
Lol @ English is a precise language. What is the precise definition of some
Immigrant does not mean you settled. It means you intended to settle. You can migrate and still emigrate. Humans are dynamic.
However, I take your point about her status.

Jesus wept! How can you intend to settle when your only intention was to use their facilities to give birth and leave and you did? Did her mother go there on an immigrant visa or a tourist visa? Trust me Nigerians did not value British citizenship in 1980. Nigeria was working. I would even say that was Nigeria’s peak …..1980/81. If her mother travelled to the UK to give birth to her it is likely because her father being a doctor knew she needed specialist facilities.

It is actually a very precise language…many Nigerians don’t realize this. You can use English to confuse or deceive those who do t fully understand English. I say this many times on Nairaland. When you are dealing with an Englishman or a properly educated Nigerian, pay attention to the exact word he used. He may not have said what you think he said.

You have to give it to him, he is taking the barrage and carrying on with his task of reforming the country.

I said it before and I say it again, even if he is only there for 1 term he will go down as Nigeria’s transformative and best president.

Presidents are remembered for what they left behind that endures. Buhari for all his flaws will be remembered for trains, Lagos Ibadan, 2nd Niger bridge etc. Jonathan’s legacy will be accepting defeat. People will struggle to identify what Obasanjo’s legacy was.

He needs to now declare a state of emergency in agriculture to put farmers to work and agro-processing industries for export.

DaddyJapan:
If memory serves well, Kemi Badenoch did not realise she was entitled to a British passport until well into her teens.
When I have a bit more time, I will look for the article where she was quoted verbatim.

You are right, it is true that she is not technically an immigrant. But look how telling her choice of words here are.


Source: https://www.kemibadenoch.org.uk/news/kemi-badenochs-maiden-speech-commons

Neither did I. Ofcourse I knew I was born in London but I never knew I was a “British citizen”. It was never an issue in those days. I still remember the ease with with I got my right of abode at Eleke crescent thinking to myself “just like that”? I didn’t even apply for a British passport for years after I got there. It was only because I wanted to travel to the US that I applied for my 1st British passport.

I am not a fan of Kemi, I think she is a manipulative narcissist. Her statement that she didn’t know also betrays her because it tells you she is Nigerian in DNA and is just playing the system for political expediency.

It is impossible for you to have grown up in Nigeria especially if you did not even know you were technically a British citizen and to now think of yourself as British….she is putting on an act. In fact as someone said it is the imposter syndrome in her that is likely pushing her to dissociate herself from Nigeria. You don’t see Mayor Khan or PM Sunak bashing India!

Kukutente23:
Your first sentence is not true of Kemi. Her Wikipedia page says her mother purposely traveled to UK to birth her there. Her parents were not studying in UK. Her mother was actually a lecturer in the US while her father was a medical doctor in Nigeria. That's what I read about her previously so I was surprised when I saw your take. That's why I said she's a second generation immigrant cause her parents took advantage of the citizenship by birth law applicable in the UK then. So it's right to say her mother went to the UK for the purpose of giving her citizenship which makes her second generation immigrant

See definition of an immigrant below by the owners of the language. Emphasis on permanently. The problem I have when communicating with Nigerians is that we are very sloppy with the use of English and it often results in miscommunication. The example I always use is the word “couple”. When annEnglish man tells you couple it means and he only means precisely 2. To a Nigerian it can mean anything. An uneducated English man will never tell you couple of minutes if he means more than 2 minutes, he will say” few”. It’s instinctive because they know their language. We speak it and have half knowledge of it annd think we know the language. Another example I give is minimum. This is why many politicians and the electorate run into trouble over qualifications when in reality if you truly understand English and read the electoral act, there is hardly a politician who who will be deemed unqualified irrespective of the level of education.

English is a very precise language, people run into trouble when they don’t have a true understand of the meaning of the words they use.

Immigrant is a very precise word it means you permanently settled. You will never hear the owners of the language refer to people like Kemi as 2nd generation immigrants, it is Nigerians who think they know the language better than the owners that will. This is why I said people like Keni will referred to as British born! She is not technically an immigrant. When I said people like her are an unusual category this is what I meant.

As for the bolded, I didn’t know that but it changes nothing. She was born by parents who were there temporarily, they were not immigrants so she cannot be a second generation immigrant!!

Electorate:
Oga, let your smartphone be useful na, google search is just sitting idle on your phone, if not you wont have displayed your ignorance that neither Kemi nor her parents are immigrants.

The people who own the language that you abuse so willingly will never describe her as a 2nd generation immigrant. When we say Nigerians are not as educated as they think they are or that we speak English but do not comprehend the meaning of the words we use and hear or that the standards in education has dropped this is what we mean. I was educated in Nigeria at a time when an educated Nigerian who went to a good school knew the precise meaning of immigrant and words because if we didn’t or used words outside of their precise meaning we wouldn’t pass. That was when our certificates were transferable globally and no one asked us to do TOEFL etc! Thank God for those teachers we thought as wicked. They were merely upholding standards!

If you had used your smartphone like you advised you would have realized you are wrong. The difference between properly educated and the poorly educated is that as part of the education, you are trained and programmed to get your facts right.

Iykopee:
In Nigeria, if you blend C5 with naphtha it's called refining hence the refinery is producing petroleum products.

You claim to be an educated man. What is refining?

Kukutente23:
I understand the part you insist she's not an immigrant since she's a citizen by birth but her parents are, which makes a second generation immigrant.
That said, you described it well. Sometimes we Africans are the cause of our own problems. We're here barking at her for her anti-immigration stance without even trying to understand her and where she's coming from.
Meanwhile in the same Africa, there's almost no African country with any cogent immigration path. We are too steeped in ethnocentrism to agree on anything for our common good but we're here fighting someone who wants to act as gatekeeper for the society she feels blessed to belong in

Kemi like myself was born in England simply because our parents were there studying at the time. They never emigrated to England. My parents returned to Nigeria after their studies and never went back. They are not immigrants and therefore their offsprings are not second generation immigrants. You can’t be second generation of there is no 1st generation.


I know I am being pedantic but a true second generation would have had certain characteristics. 1) Britain became home for your parents 2) you spent your formative years especially primary secondary school there and assimilated the culture from day 1 etc. I don’t think you can classify those of us who were born in England and returned home with their parents but later went back as “second generation”. You will find we don’t have the same characteristics as those whose parents settled in England and were raised in England.

The best classification is the ambiguous “British born” There are certain characteristics that come with second generation immigrants that neither her nor many of us in her situation have. For example I have never called myself or felt British and I can bet you Kemi only started to ”feel” British when she decided to join politics.

The fact that the political base she sought out to represent when she started out in politics was the Nigerian community tells you that is where her roots truly are. She just ditched her Nigerianess because it was politically expedient. If she were 2nd generation her base would have been whites and Jamaicans because at the time she was growing up there were few Nigerians in England.

zoghys:
Not all HIV patient are necessarily gay.

When bisexuals (especially those in the closet) infiltrate the heterosexual pool they infect normal people.

Truths9ja:
hmm 🤔. For him to come out that he’s HIV positive. Don’t you see that it is very deep niii. How many young people of his age can come out and disclose that they are hiv positive ?

Gays will commit abominable acts and be looking for sympathy!!

Some woke people will be applauding!

YoshihideSuga:
No vex o, na so e bad reach?

Yes!

Anyone who lived in Brtitain or regularly visited Britain especially London, Birmingham, Bradford in the 80s or 90s and steps foot there today can’t help but feel sorry for the locals. We have overwhelmed them….same thing with Lagos. Unchecked immigration by people with different social ethical and cultural values ultimately destroys that society. Usually the mass migration of a people to a place is because those people were incapable of managing their own societies and when they overwhelm the locals they bring that chaos to the new environment. Immigration only works when the immigrants are a controlled fraction of the society or it is a society like Dubai when you rule with an iron fist and there are restrictions on what immigrants can do and positions of authority they can attain.

Those who had never been may think they are paradises compared to where they are coming from but London is now a sheet hole and so is Lagos. Only those who lived in these places before the mass influx can recognize.

The main reason Britain still has some semblance of sanity is because it was a structured society before immigrants came in enmasse and they have not FULLY taken control of their institutions but they are gradually and they will in due course. First they start by taking over menial jobs, then professions and businesses, then politics and they will bring their ways and destroy it. Christian’s will start to fight Muslims. The minute an immigrant starts to asser that they have a right to their way of life as the detriment of your rules in your society is the day the clock starts ticking. I remmember about 2 decades ago when Muslim immigrants were assert g their rights to wear hijabs in schools and drive with Burkas. I said then Britain has entered once chance!


Recently there was a story of a Nigerian care agency that sent an unqualified nurse to look after a patient who died….sounds familiar? It would never happen back in the day but as soon as you put Nigerians in charge of these things their Nigerianess comes out. Same with the Pakistanis, the Arabs, Polish, Somalis, Ukrainians, etc. when I was in university we all knew which Indian doctors to go to to get a fake sick note for £10 because your assignment is late. You see that’s the cultural difference between an Indian and a Brit. A British doctor will not risk his license and reputation for £10….an Indian will!


Every group of immigrants in the UK come with their own unique assault against the system. You have the legitimate Indian doctors giving fake reports for a fee, You have the Indians running mortgage scams. You have the Somalis and their electronics and phone scams, the Nigerians with their credit card and benefit frauds etc etc. An immigrant will start with low paying jobs and eventually opens a small store, with card processing facilities. Instead of being grateful the society provided him a platform to own a business, he uses the store as a side hustle to launder stolen credit cards from fellow immigrants for a 50% fee. That’s what immigrants do! An immigrant gets a job in a bank, he becomes the insider to immigrant fruadsters. Every group of immigrants has at least one scam or assault on the system they are running ….It’s our way!! In the end the system is overwhelmed.

Maybe because I have British citizenship and can go and come as I please and also have no desire to live there again, I can say these things but if you let 1) the wrong type of immigrants 2) overwhelm your society, they will eventually destroy it.

Western society is dying, just think about it, the last 2 leaders of the Conservative Party were an Indian and a Nigerian. We are talking about the Conservative Party not Labour o!!!!

Scandium:
Read about her properly

She was born in Wimbledon. How can she be an immigrant?


An immigrant is someone who leaves her country of origin to another.

You can’t call her an immigrant because Britain is where she started her life. Nigeria is her Ancestral home. She cannot be described as an immigrant in either country.

Scandium:
Read about her properly

She was born in Wimbledon. How can she be an immigrant?

malali:

Listen to yourself.....Even if you put lipstick on a Pig.
Its still a pig.

Thats the deceit, that passport. Nigerians think carrying a passport makes you british.
Thats tomfoolery at its peak.

. I ham a British citizen by birth, I have never called my self British. I have British citizenship by birth I live in Nigeria.

The fact is she is not an immigrant. However Kemi is playing a game she knows what she is doing, when she started on politics she played the Nigerian card, when Nigerians in UK ignored her she ditched her Nigerianess, saw that the Labour Party was full of blacks and joined the conservatives knowing it was a faster political path for a black person since they had few blacks.

I am a Nigerian with British citizenship but if I were living in Britain and cared about the best for Britain I would kick you nigggars out too because anywhere we assemble in great numbers we eventually destroy. Last time I was in London I almost cried.

spinna:
No.3 above is what came to mind, what a deluded sellout she appears to be.. someone that schooled in Nigeria..if these policies you advocate were in place you would not be where you are today.7hju

I can’t stand Kemi but she is not an immigrant, neither were her parents. She is a a Bonafide British citizen by birth.

The uncomfortable truth is the more immigrants you let in the more they destroy your society. Their reality is that a demographically declining population needs immigrants. When you allow immigration you have to be selective about the kind of people you let in. However nobody feels sorry for the British knowing their roles in the failure of the countries that people are fleeing from.