₦airaland Forum

Kukutenla:
How is a CBN gov position not a technocratic position?
No wonder Nigeria is the way it is. Too many dumb youths. Even the CBN act says the CBN is an autonomous body. It is because of the dysfunctional nature of our systems that you're writing this rubbish about respect and gratefulness as qualities required if a CBN gov. It's shameful

You clearly lack good English comprehension. I said his position of a CBN gov is a technocrat and he got political. I see you have come again with your fooolishness. Go to English school. Eeediot!

casualobserver:
The moral of the story is: if you are elevated to high office on the back of others especially if you are as a technocrat, don’t get power drunk to the point where you think you can take on the politicians. .

nedekid:
Adeleke family disfunctional? Aside dancing, which in any case shows a happy heart, what make you consider that family disfunctional? Even if you remove money, what makes them in your opinion disfunctional? Do you hear of polygamy, scandals, queer behaviors, divisions, etc?
Last I know, that family is the perfect example of what families strive to be. Have you not see the unity between the older Adelekes? The bond between the brothers? Respect, unity, pulling themselves up both financially, politically etc? Nothing like rivalry between them? Now look at the children ie David and his cousins, brothers and sisters how close they are. Look at the love when david meets any of his uncles or siblings.
Omo we as parents of grown children and also from large families wish to be "disfunctional" as the Adeleke family, if that is your definition of disfunctional family.

Having baby mamas up and down, airing dirty linen in public, not conducting your affairs in a manner that shows good upbringing etc etc.

Omoboricash:
Do u really know Adeleke family at all? Im sure it was Davido that makes you know little about them.
David Adeleke aka Davido's grandpa was a senator during second republic under UPN in old oyo state. His uncle was first civilian governor in Osun state, also a senator under pdp and apc before he died in 2017. The present governor of osun state also a senator before he was elected as a governor.

Adeleke family is known name in Nigeria politics.
Deji Adeleke made his money from Pacific holdings. You can google pacific holdings.
Ade dancer Davido uncle is known for his dancing skills.... So no dyfunctional issue in their family.
Have you ever heard of Deji Adeleke or late Isiaka Tunji Adeleke on social media before if not for Davido that brought his dad to limelight thru his music career.
Deji Adeleke is an introvert yet he's a billuinaire in dollars.

My friend the question I ask you is can you read? Do you understand English? I keep saying what I have said numerous times many Nigerians speak English but do not understand English.

Because of people like you who lack English comprehension, I specifically said take away the fame and fortune. instead you are here talking about billions…is that the issue? It is always one scandal or the other from the family and actions unbecoming of a family with such pedigree.

And by the way I know more about the family than you do. If you go through my post visitors I have talked about his grandfather and his uncles.

I said the same thing recently about the Abiola family with all their airing dirty linen in public. Fame success and riches is not the same thing as good upbringing…..that is the subject of discussion not how successful a family is. We are not discussing a family’s success or pedigree we are speaking to upbringing. That is what wizkid is speaking to.

Go for a refresher course in. English and read again!

casualobserver:
Have to agree with Wizkid on this. Take the money aside that tends to cloud people’s judgement, the family is very dysfunctional.

We are talking about character and upbringing anll you’ve done is talk about billions. Isn’t that what I said that money clouds your judgement? The family is full of examples of broken homes, multiple wives, failed marriages, children outside wedlock etc etc this is what wizkid is talking about…not money! I know everything to you and your generation is money!


What you have posted about the family is what is in the public domain everybody knows about their financial and political history. Go and do some research about the family’s less public issues.

SmartPolician:
For Folashodun Shonubi to testify that Emefiele flouted the policy of the Bank to print the currency, it seems he only planned the deal with the president and executed it.

He thought he had the backing of the president and could afford to do whatever he liked. Now, he's paying the heavy price.

Moral of the Story: If you ever want to steal in your office, no chop alone. Make the chopping go round because if you chop alone, you go die alone.

The moral of the story is: if you are elevated to high office on the back of others especially if you are as a technocrat, don’t get power drunk to the point where you think you can take on the politicians. Ask Osinbajo or Emefiele or Amosun or as we shall soon witness…..Fubara. Respect the powers that put you there, be grateful for your opportunity to witness a position that was not in your natural calling and bow out gracefully like Jonathan.

Have to agree with Wizkid on this. Take the money aside that tends to cloud people’s judgement, the family is very dysfunctional.

The problem with hiring meceneries is they become a power in their own right. In fact the history of boko haram is connected to the arming of political thugs. We have seen what has happened with foreign mercenaries in the Sahel supposedly fighting terrorists.

The Nigerian army are quite capable of dealing with our security challenges given the right backing and political will. They are already recording successes in the North West.

I don’t trust western mercenaries (US France etc) and the Israelis and Russians (official armies) are engaged in their own issues or likely not to sit down well for different reasons. Imagine the implication of sending Israeli mercenaries at a time when Israel is bombing the Muslim world or sending Russian mercenaries at a time when people are hoisting Russian flags during a protest?

who made him "Sir"?

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dkidd:
But u do realize that as an immigrant bottom cleaner doesn't mean they have no other skill but its mostly a means to an end at that point in time. There's no need downgrading anyone for what they do to survive

I am not down grading neither is Kemi. you are cleaning bottoms, that is your job, you dont have a problem applying for the job, taking the job and collecting the money for the job but when they call you a bottom cleaner you take offense....is that not what you do?

i am not down grading, I lived in the Uk, I did all sorts of jobs when I first got there, macdonalds, can driver, security guard even though i am a citizen. If you called me a fast food worker taxi driver or security, fine because that is what i was when i did those jobs. I did what i had to do to survive but guess what.... i only lasted 4 days at macdonalds because I refused to clean toilets which was part of the job. if you clean peoples piss and shit you are a bottom cleaner...deal with it.

dkidd:
But u do realize that as an immigrant bottom cleaner doesn't mean they have no other skill but its mostly a means to an end at that point in time.

your skill requirement for the job is Zero. the only skill requirement is you are prepared to trade your self respect and dignity for money.

Otunba Ghaddafi along Lagos Ibadan express has a sign "shit business is good business" you can call it what you want to make yourselves feel better you can call yourselves carers or sanitation engineers but we call is "Agbepo"....he who carries shit. so if you are cleaning shit and you are called a bottom cleaner how is she wrong?

Dont get me wrong I dont like Kemi at all but she is saying it as it is. All the nigerian immigrant carers in the Uk are bottom cleaners and the only reason they give you visas just like farm workers is because the locals have too much self respect to do these jobs.

cococandy:
It’s obvious you’re a proudly ignorant person

its a fact. what skill is required to be a carer? None! A nurse may never have to touch poop all her career. A carer will almost certainly clean bottoms. dont get carried away with the job title...your job as a "carer" is to clean poop. Show me a carer who doesnt clean poop and wipe piss?

dkidd:
So the nurses doing it in Nigeria are ?

There is a difference between a nurse and a carer. An immigrant carer is a bottom cleaner, thats the only skill you have.....the ability to have no dignity and self respect.

Kobojunkie:
It is bad for you to clean arse in your own country— these people don't even get paid minimum wage nor do they work in decent environments. And it is equally wrong to leave your country to go clean arse and urine where you will get better pay and better living conditions? If that makes sense to you, please continue.

you have traded your dignity for money. you collect the money and the insults that go with it. Like i said if you dont like it fix your country.

No man will stand and watch another man mistakenly piss or shiit on him. in fact spitting on someone is seen as an insult in any country. yet because you are paid to handle another man's piss shiit or spit, you should not be called what you are?

As a carer you trader your dignity for money...deal with it. you are a bottom cleaner. you are ding the job because no self respecting brit will do it.

lexy2014:
what are the roots that the osun made will have in oyo, ekiti or ondo state that will make him governor of those states?

i am sure as an educated man you can work it out yourself..

Kobojunkie:
That there reveals you are quite aware it is meant as a derogatory term then. Anyways, continue!

it is meant to be derogatory because it is derogatory to leave your country to clean people's ass or urine.

it is derogatory. is cleaning another man's ass a good thing?

Kobojunkie:
They do so much more than that.

So the term "bottom wipers" is a form of denigration that should be frowned upon by any reasonable being.

who cares? at the end of the day the are bottom wipers. It is part of the job of a nurse and specifically that of a carer. And by the way she didnt specifically say Nurses. A lot of the immigrants are carers...a carer is not a nurse

obonujoker:
So an Osun man can become a governor of Ekiti or Ondo or Oyo State, and vice versa?🙂

why not? if the osun man has roots in those states and is accepted by the people and the powers that be

Kobojunkie:
That is a very immature and careless statement to make. These workers are an essential backbone of any healthcare system. Without them what you have is nothing better than what you have there in Nigeria that does not work at all for anyone.

But excuse me are they not bottom wipers?

It is what it is deal with it. If you don’t want to be called a bottom wiper fix your country.

obonujoker:
So Tinubu has agreed that he is from Irabiji😹🤣😹

Did he tell you he is not from there? I am a yoruba man, I have roots from Lagos, Ogun, Ondo and Osun states. If I become governor of One state does it mean I don’t have roots from another?

What is wrong with these eeediots? The speaker of the house has always had CFR. There is a reason why he is the no4 citizen and not the no 3.

The senate president is not only the president of the senate, he is the leader of the National Assembly which includes both the senate and the house of reps. The speaker is only the leader of the house of reps.

Below is the hierarchy in the National Assembly


Someone needs to educate these mor0ns!

EreluRoz:
Biggest distractor of modern Nigeria's politics

You see this Obi ehn, as long as he continues with this nonsense presidential ambition of his and his followers keep thinking with their anus then Tinubu will easily be reelected come 2027 with ease.
I’m
I said what I said with my full chest, you all can continue barking. Ina ruwa na

Leave them let them continue with their delusion.

As for me until and unless someone else with better credentials puts himself for election, I would rather have a Tinubu than an Atiku or Obi and in such a scenario I wholeheartedly encourage both of them in their delusions of grandeur knowing that so long as they both feel they can be president neither will step down for the other and paving the way for a Tinubu second term.

I repeat what I said before the elections: my support for Tinubu is because 1) Atiku and Obi will be disasters. 2) There is no one better with the capacity to win that has presented himself.

Give me a better candidate than Tinubu. And I will switch my vote but not for Atiku or Obi. God forbid!

vowiski:
Lol, so a useless president can stay for 6 years..

4 year tenure is still better.

At least they perform for 2 years out of the 8 years.

1 year each before election, for performance.

Imagine 6 years with nothing to lose, a looting spree

As with everything Atiku, he is only after his own interests. Secondly to show how much of a dimwit the man is, the minimum qualification is not secondary school certificate, It is primary school and work experience. Anyone contesting for presidency has work experience so your educational qualifications are immaterial and his proposed amendment changes nothing.

Finally, Educational certificates have not brought any benefit to the running of the country. If anything the educated seem to be the most confused, brain dead and out of touch people lacking in common sense in this country.

A man is either intelligent or he isn’t. Atiku is ann example of the folly of using educational certificates as evidence of capability or intellect. Educational certificates are merely a test of memory on the day of the exams. Most of us here don’t even remmember the things we were tested on at the exams. My mechanic is very intelligent if you speak to him, he has no certificates. Atiku has certificates but he felt he can win an election as an opposition candidate by splitting the same opposition. That right there is evidence certificates does not equal intelligence.

Okoroawusa:
Falana again?

I just dey laugh...🤣🤣🤣

Toh

it is your inability to unite the opposition, your selfish egos and your lack of election strategy and your ineptitude as an opposition that is giving rise to the so called "one party state".

The man should go and rest, when he was VP from 203-2007 PDP controlled more states than the APC does today....why didnt he shout one party state?

mcbreeze:
I don't support how they conducted the election but eloquence English, has nothing to do with Governance. For Reuben to start checking who is right or wrong in English Language is trivial

I repeat this is the arrogance of the socalled educated Nigerian. We are so far down the rabbit hole of white man sychophancy and Uncle Tomism that we dont seem to understand we are a minority and our views, opinions or votes dont really matter in a democracy where the majority are not western educated. We are less than 20% of the population (if that) and this is why Nigeria will never work for the educated man in a democracy.

The irony is that the educated Nigerian is the one who promotes the system that brings about his downfall all in his constant bid to be like the white man.

MadamAlingo:
Imagine if this man was our president? Nigeria lost. Tinubu is a monumental disaster.

No need to imagine, just look at the state he managed for 8 years!

Islie:
FACT CHECK: Is petrol 40% cheaper in Nigeria than in Saudi Arabia as claimed by Dangote?



https://factcheck.thecable.ng/fact-check-is-petrol-40-cheaper-in-nigeria-than-in-saudi-arabia-as-claimed-by-dangote/

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know Dangote was referring to our petrol when it was N600.

stanluiz:
what did you mean by that ?

What did ifeajuna did ? Can you please specify ?

Exactly what I stated. Read your history. Before then the o Lu interaction Nigerians had with the military was on the pages of newspapers reading of their exploits in Burna war or other UN missions.

Blame Ifeajuna who introduced the military into our pysche.

Instead of you to hold the opposition accountable for their serial strategic election blunders, you are blaming INEC. This is why APC keep winning elections because the opposition never takes responsibility for their electoral losses and restrategize for the next one.

When APC lost Edo in 2016 did you see any “holdinecaccountable” hashtags? No! They went into their bunker and restrategized. Did you not see Oshiomole withdraw support for his preferred candidate in favour of Monday? Did you not see Oshiomole forgive Shuaibu despite betrayal? The singular trait in PDP and its offshoots is that if they can’t get their way they bring the whole house down. That is why they lose elections not INEC or judiciary!

How can an incumbent APC win reelection in 2019 when things were hard? How did they get 8m votes in 2023 while the opposition got 14m and still won the election despite Naira and fuel scarcity? How can APC win Edo in 2024 with all the hardship in the country today? The answer is an incompetent and divided opposition. If you don’t hold them responsible and tell them to get their act together instead of blaming INEC or the courts they will forever be in opposition.

Even I as a supporter of the APC am annoyed at the incompetence of the opposition because it leads to complacency. There is less incentive to provide good governance if you know the opposition are inept at winning elections. And that’s not good for anybody.

The difference between APC and the others is this: if APC feels you cannot win they will tell you to step down for the person who can win and will compensate you. Whereas the opposition will be saying it is my right to contest and cause disharmony or split the votes. Nogeeeforanybidy mentality which is a PDP trait is why they keep losing elections.

Supporters of the opposition are becoming a problem to our democracy by blindly parroting these weak INEC and judiciary narratives instead of blaming their parties for incompetence and lack of good election strategies!

But I know you are so predictable, you won’t listen….so see you at the next election where you will commit the same strategic blunders and lose again and blame INEC and the judiciary again. I know you will make the same errors again because you are still blaming INEC which means you are not ready to look into where you went wrong. Like party leaders, like supporters, all brain dead, all lacking ability to think and see the big picture. All mentallly lazy! Birds of the same feather and all that…..

SULBELL:
I quite understand your point as i am aware of the personal income tax amendment act,

Personal income tax is under state inland revenue jurisdiction not the federal government, so in a system like ours getting that intel by a state agency may be a tall task.

I know a number of expatriate that do pay income tax (though majority do not make full disclosure, this is always aided by their Nigerian employers). That makes me wonder where most on this thread get the information that foreign employees do not pay tax.
Go to any inland revenue office and mention expatriate, they will all jump at you with full attention.
Multinationals will not risk sanction or have inland revenue at their door so they mostly comply.

You are right and I was going to say that in my post but I thought it was already getting too long. It is the reason why EFCC tend to charge people (or threaten to charge as allegedly the case with Bonrosky) with money laundering as opposed to tax evasion. The point was the channels exist for enforcement but it is ultimately down to the determination of the local tax authorities